#civil-debate (Discord ID: 538929818834698260) in The Ice Wall, page 24
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hopefully that clarifies anything you were curious about
Yes it does :) thank you and good luck
so ive recently become a flat earther
after doing an experiment
i stood on my floor
and then dropped some water on it
the water didnt roll as it would on a circle
and i didnt lean to one side, like a circle would
thats how i can prove the earth is flat
what do yall think
under the globe model the curve is so slight that even after large distances you still don't feel it
needs more lasers
Cant ever see the curve
Cant feel the curve?
Why do planes not account for curve?
out of interest has there been any flat earth to circumnavigate the globe or whatever model you guys believe in?
like on a boat
I am intrigued on how you fall on a flat Earth as gravity wouldn't work and many flat earthers dont think that the earth moves
@evil chicken circumnavigation works the same on a globe or flat earth going east or west
p. 5 para 3
Project MOCKINGBIRD -- During the period from 12
March 1963 to 15 June 1963, this Office
installed telephone taps on two Washington based newsmen who were suspected of disclosing
classified information obtained from a variety
of governmental and congressional sources."
Yeah, I might've just fucked up
so, now that i have soundly refuted the claim
of where conspiracy theorists never fact-checked
You did nothing
not you specifically, since you didn't bring it up, i did
i brought it up as an example
to show one case where conspiracy theorists didn't fact-check to the primary source
seriously @🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 how dumb have you got to be to click on a link from the same agency that smuggles coke into the USA on dressed up passenger jets?
i'd post the screenshot if i could
so, can i get unmuted now and verbally respond?
You mean where SOME or ONE person may not have.
They lost credibility at Reagan Contra 30 years ago
well, i see it in the list of interests, and that's why i brought it up
I don't give a fucking fuck what Ollie North said there, the CIA are guilty as hell
it's the same with PRISM/NSA,
most never fact-checked
and i can go into looooong detail on how that works
I did, I found snowden's back door in a router, had to get into the firmware though
Are you going to try to tell me the NSA isn't spying on us?
It was a pain in the ass
secret open port in your firmware
and i can prove it
it was there
Snowden's leak was real
so, allow me to argue it verbally
Hahahahahaa!!! Ok, bud. Good luck with that.
Snowden didn't have a clue what he was talking about
so, unmute then
I think it was like port 40892 or something?
Can't remember exactly it was liek 4 years ago now
But there was an open port that doesn't show up in the router log in screen, you have to hack that shit and get into the firmware and dump dev/mem to find it
your own technology has backdoors for the government to spy on you
without your knowledge nor consent
and they have no right to do this
Wasn't in the smallprint
Backdoor software coded to access your storage, microphone, and cameras. Some in simple calculator apps? Yeah, no ones spying on you, man!
Don't give a fuck about "preventing terrorism" especially when it's the government doing the terrorism
can i respond?
because that's now how it works
You're not muted anymore
@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 is there a place where i can link?
bot has me muted
and can i get perms to post?
i'd like to post screenshots to go with the references
hello fellow MLG flatties
earth round tho innit
Hello fellow flaties
I will not say thet anymore plesae
But you had a few chances already
Seems like you aren't ranked yet. <:HEHE6:403540176464379925>
on vaccines, I think research requires far more scrutiny and accuracy than there is right now. I.e. elimination of healthy user bias, longer latency, testing effects of multiple vaccines (all of schedule) with an inert placebo (no aluminum adjuvant) and even going so far as replacing aluminum adjuvant with AHCC adjuvant (has been proven to make at least flu shots more effective (short term))
i think that research, provided that it is put through the peer review process, is under enough scrutiny as it is often put through those against the conclusion as well as those for the conclusion so if it is peer reviewed it is generally undeniably true. i haven't seen a single anti vax study that has been through the peer review process. does the medical production industry/big pharma need more scrutiny when it comes to the manufacturing and basis of prescriptions? yes imo because in the past (iirc the most recent was over half a century ago but none the less) there have been cases where they didn't follow strict enough standards for manufacturing the polio vaccine where they didn't check that the bacteria were actually dead
placebos aren't needed in vaccination trials as they will either work or they won't. the placebo will never work due to the mechanisms of vaccines
slide me that student role
peer review is a process that can be corrupted. Although I cannot show any scientific publication about that, there is however an investigation ongoing:
if vaccines work, then it should be confirmed with an inert placebo
otherwise we can say it works because of the placebo effect
furthermore the medical industry has got corruption, so why is there about 4 Billion USD spent on vaccine injury compensation (See VAERS)? And why are the manufacturers made legally immune from liability?
these parts make it questionable
furthermore, aluminum is proven to be toxic and it goes into the body, especially after intramuscular injection in a form of a salt that either dissolves slowly in water or doesn't dissolve in water (Al(OH)3 or AlPO4). That it is present is confirmable by both laboratory testing (destruction with aqua regia before measurement, then using ICP-MS, AAS or AES) and the insert itself (have you ever read the insert made by the manufacturer?)
Being critical towards vaccines doesn't make you anti-vaccine
furthermore, understand the benefits from criticism
world is flat
Earth is a bagel
**Job 37:18 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
<18> Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror? ```
i was talking
why am i muted
i didn't mic sam
i was about to address the NASA point
U started the loud noise
that was someone else
i can even prove it wasn't me in the other debate vc
to prove i'm legit
i muted the person who made the noice
U do it again your gettin muted
he did it before
the .mil reference before?
guys don't get angry
don't swear each other
pluto is flat change my mind
not being able to prove something with absolute certainty, right here and right now, is a nonstandard criterion for having to know something.
the donut earth is right because my dad said so
@Citizen Z could you please explain where the sun goes at night in the flat earth model whilst maintaining the time zones?
@@Citizen Z could you please explain where the sun goes at night in the flat earth model whilst maintaining the time zones?
I would like to know as well
I mean you see it disappear
Bellow the horison
But you also know that someone else has sunlight
It literally sets, like it is dipping below the earth surface
Could any flat earther tell me what they **agree** on with people that believe in a globe earth
That curvature cannot be observed from the ground level
Okay guys give us flat out images from space showing a flat earth from space no cgi and i'll believe flat earth
They don't believe that we can get high enough to see the entire earth
then how can they make the models of it
They are guessing I guess
to everyone who is in the voice chat, this is not evidence for either side, this is just for both sides to use. I am currently in my final year of schooling and these are my data sheets for chemistry and physics. use it how you will
i cant attach them :/
anyone who wants them just DM me and ill send them there
I ended up getting a flat earth explanation for the sun set
Not sure if videos links are allowed here tho
Yes you can post links. Just stay on topic
Hey flatties x
How are u all
I’m good, but I am not a flat earther.
guys if the earth is flat why cant we pick up gamma rays in japan that were sent from england?
wait this aint a furry server
but it's quality is equal to them
*slowly rubs my back*
Lmao imagine thinking the moon isnt ice
I cant beleive some people think its core isnt cheese either
Its pretty clear from Genesis 1:27
**Genesis 1:27 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
<27> So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. ```
Like really guys come on
What is this kindergarten
owo that isn't banned
is civil debate used for debating about anything?
this proves the earth is round but flat earthers will most likely say it is completely fake
while i'm a globe earther that's clearly edited. there is no point in the moon's orbit except for during a solar eclipse where it will only see the daylight hemisphere and where there's a full solar eclipse the ground in front of the POV wouldn't be lit
yes it is edited because it was taken with multiple cameras and then put together to make a single image
ah right also what the hell is that foreground anyway?
that looks like the most cgi'd bs i've ever seen
the lunar surface
that looks like a tf2 graphics rendering for a lunar map
the cameras were moving at over 3580 mph
yeah i'm aware of the speed that it should be moving
so there was probably some cleaning up done to the surface since it would blur much more easily that the earth
i think the photo was taken 83 miles above the surfacec
what bad word did i use?
it's that kind of photo that give their opinion "credit"
as it's technically computer generated
Ayy enders unmuted
Hows everyone doing?