#civil-debate (Discord ID: 538929818834698260) in The Ice Wall, page 24

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2019-03-16 02:25:48 UTC

hopefully that clarifies anything you were curious about

2019-03-16 02:26:45 UTC

Yes it does :) thank you and good luck

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so ive recently become a flat earther

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after doing an experiment

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i stood on my floor

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and then dropped some water on it

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the water didnt roll as it would on a circle

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and i didnt lean to one side, like a circle would

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thats how i can prove the earth is flat

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what do yall think

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under the globe model the curve is so slight that even after large distances you still don't feel it

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needs more lasers

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Cant ever see the curve

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Cant feel the curve?

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Why do planes not account for curve?

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out of interest has there been any flat earth to circumnavigate the globe or whatever model you guys believe in?

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like on a boat

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I am intrigued on how you fall on a flat Earth as gravity wouldn't work and many flat earthers dont think that the earth moves

2019-03-16 06:11:36 UTC

@evil chicken circumnavigation works the same on a globe or flat earth going east or west

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p. 5 para 3

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Project MOCKINGBIRD -- During the period from 12
March 1963 to 15 June 1963, this Office
installed telephone taps on two Washington based newsmen who were suspected of disclosing
classified information obtained from a variety
of governmental and congressional sources."

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Yeah, I might've just fucked up

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so, now that i have soundly refuted the claim

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one example*

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of where conspiracy theorists never fact-checked

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You did nothing

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not you specifically, since you didn't bring it up, i did

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i brought it up as an example

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to show one case where conspiracy theorists didn't fact-check to the primary source

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seriously @🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 how dumb have you got to be to click on a link from the same agency that smuggles coke into the USA on dressed up passenger jets?

2019-03-16 09:13:09 UTC

i'd post the screenshot if i could

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so, can i get unmuted now and verbally respond?

2019-03-16 09:13:28 UTC

You mean where SOME or ONE person may not have.

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Stop generalizing

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They lost credibility at Reagan Contra 30 years ago

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well, i see it in the list of interests, and that's why i brought it up

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I don't give a fucking fuck what Ollie North said there, the CIA are guilty as hell

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it's the same with PRISM/NSA,

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most never fact-checked

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and i can go into looooong detail on how that works

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I did, I found snowden's back door in a router, had to get into the firmware though

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Are you going to try to tell me the NSA isn't spying on us?

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It was a pain in the ass

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secret open port in your firmware

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and i can prove it

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it was there

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Snowden's leak was real

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so, allow me to argue it verbally

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Hahahahahaa!!! Ok, bud. Good luck with that.

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Snowden didn't have a clue what he was talking about

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so, unmute then

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I think it was like port 40892 or something?

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Can't remember exactly it was liek 4 years ago now

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But there was an open port that doesn't show up in the router log in screen, you have to hack that shit and get into the firmware and dump dev/mem to find it

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your own technology has backdoors for the government to spy on you

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without your knowledge nor consent

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and they have no right to do this

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Wasn't in the smallprint

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Backdoor software coded to access your storage, microphone, and cameras. Some in simple calculator apps? Yeah, no ones spying on you, man!

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Don't give a fuck about "preventing terrorism" especially when it's the government doing the terrorism

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false flags

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can i respond?

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because that's now how it works

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You're not muted anymore

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@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 is there a place where i can link?

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too easy

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bot has me muted

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and can i get perms to post?

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i'd like to post screenshots to go with the references

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hi gentlemen

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RLGs debunk

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hello fellow MLG flatties

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earth round tho innit

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Remeber me

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Hello fellow flaties

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Unmute mee

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I will not say thet anymore plesae

But you had a few chances already

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Hello peeps

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Hello faties

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Thats rude!

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@ZeroT is the earth flat

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Seems like you aren't ranked yet. <:HEHE6:403540176464379925>

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2019-03-16 17:58:32 UTC

on vaccines, I think research requires far more scrutiny and accuracy than there is right now. I.e. elimination of healthy user bias, longer latency, testing effects of multiple vaccines (all of schedule) with an inert placebo (no aluminum adjuvant) and even going so far as replacing aluminum adjuvant with AHCC adjuvant (has been proven to make at least flu shots more effective (short term))

2019-03-16 18:51:25 UTC

i think that research, provided that it is put through the peer review process, is under enough scrutiny as it is often put through those against the conclusion as well as those for the conclusion so if it is peer reviewed it is generally undeniably true. i haven't seen a single anti vax study that has been through the peer review process. does the medical production industry/big pharma need more scrutiny when it comes to the manufacturing and basis of prescriptions? yes imo because in the past (iirc the most recent was over half a century ago but none the less) there have been cases where they didn't follow strict enough standards for manufacturing the polio vaccine where they didn't check that the bacteria were actually dead

2019-03-16 18:52:02 UTC

placebos aren't needed in vaccination trials as they will either work or they won't. the placebo will never work due to the mechanisms of vaccines

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yo dudes

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slide me that student role

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peer review is a process that can be corrupted. Although I cannot show any scientific publication about that, there is however an investigation ongoing:

2019-03-16 19:16:27 UTC

if vaccines work, then it should be confirmed with an inert placebo

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otherwise we can say it works because of the placebo effect

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furthermore the medical industry has got corruption, so why is there about 4 Billion USD spent on vaccine injury compensation (See VAERS)? And why are the manufacturers made legally immune from liability?

2019-03-16 19:18:27 UTC

these parts make it questionable

2019-03-16 19:21:34 UTC

furthermore, aluminum is proven to be toxic and it goes into the body, especially after intramuscular injection in a form of a salt that either dissolves slowly in water or doesn't dissolve in water (Al(OH)3 or AlPO4). That it is present is confirmable by both laboratory testing (destruction with aqua regia before measurement, then using ICP-MS, AAS or AES) and the insert itself (have you ever read the insert made by the manufacturer?)
Being critical towards vaccines doesn't make you anti-vaccine

2019-03-16 19:21:55 UTC

furthermore, understand the benefits from criticism

2019-03-16 19:47:16 UTC

world is flat

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Earth is a bagel

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**Job 37:18 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**


<18> Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror? ```

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@!GPT why am i muted?

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i was talking

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why am i muted

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i didn't mic sam

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i was about to address the NASA point

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U started the loud noise

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that was someone else

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i can even prove it wasn't me in the other debate vc

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to prove i'm legit

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i muted the person who made the noice

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Your unmuted

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U do it again your gettin muted

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it's garry

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he did it before

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the .mil reference before?

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guys don't get angry

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don't swear each other

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pluto is flat change my mind

2019-03-16 21:02:32 UTC

not being able to prove something with absolute certainty, right here and right now, is a nonstandard criterion for having to know something.

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Absolute proof!

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the donut earth is right because my dad said so

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@Citizen Z could you please explain where the sun goes at night in the flat earth model whilst maintaining the time zones?

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@@Citizen Z could you please explain where the sun goes at night in the flat earth model whilst maintaining the time zones?

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I would like to know as well

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I mean you see it disappear

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Bellow the horison

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But you also know that someone else has sunlight

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It literally sets, like it is dipping below the earth surface

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Could any flat earther tell me what they **agree** on with people that believe in a globe earth

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That curvature cannot be observed from the ground level

2019-03-17 00:01:33 UTC

Okay guys give us flat out images from space showing a flat earth from space no cgi and i'll believe flat earth

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They don't believe that we can get high enough to see the entire earth

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then how can they make the models of it

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They are guessing I guess

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PLZ unmute

2019-03-17 00:16:57 UTC

to everyone who is in the voice chat, this is not evidence for either side, this is just for both sides to use. I am currently in my final year of schooling and these are my data sheets for chemistry and physics. use it how you will

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i cant attach them :/

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anyone who wants them just DM me and ill send them there

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I ended up getting a flat earth explanation for the sun set

2019-03-17 00:25:40 UTC

Not sure if videos links are allowed here tho

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Ok, works

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Yes you can post links. Just stay on topic

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Hey flatties x

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How are u all

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I’m good, but I am not a flat earther.

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guys if the earth is flat why cant we pick up gamma rays in japan that were sent from england?

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wait this aint a furry server

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but it's quality is equal to them

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*slowly rubs my back*

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*kills me*

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Simulation babe

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Lmao imagine thinking the moon isnt ice

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Ik right

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I cant beleive some people think its core isnt cheese either

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Like cmon

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Its pretty clear from Genesis 1:27

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**Genesis 1:27 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**


<27> So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. ```

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Like really guys come on

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Alright, @Ender has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @Squidthegoat1610 has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @Squidthegoat1610 has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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What is this kindergarten

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owo that isn't banned

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N word

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Alright, @Ender has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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: O

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Alright, @Squidthegoat1610 has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-17 01:26:55 UTC

is civil debate used for debating about anything?

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if so

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this proves the earth is round but flat earthers will most likely say it is completely fake


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while i'm a globe earther that's clearly edited. there is no point in the moon's orbit except for during a solar eclipse where it will only see the daylight hemisphere and where there's a full solar eclipse the ground in front of the POV wouldn't be lit

2019-03-17 01:31:15 UTC

yes it is edited because it was taken with multiple cameras and then put together to make a single image

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ah right also what the hell is that foreground anyway?

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that looks like the most cgi'd bs i've ever seen

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the lunar surface

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that looks like a tf2 graphics rendering for a lunar map

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the cameras were moving at over 3580 mph

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yeah i'm aware of the speed that it should be moving

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so there was probably some cleaning up done to the surface since it would blur much more easily that the earth

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i think the photo was taken 83 miles above the surfacec

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Alright, @Koro has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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what bad word did i use?

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it's that kind of photo that give their opinion "credit"

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as it's technically computer generated

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Ayy enders unmuted

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Hows everyone doing?

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Alright, @HockeyPockey has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @HockeyPockey has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @HockeyPockey has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Rip hockeypockey

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Lets see

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