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2019-05-05 01:45:54 UTC

goodnight guys ill see u all tomorrow

2019-05-05 01:45:55 UTC

omg

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XD

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Interesting

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Video editing technology wasnt as advanced back then

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yeah

2019-05-05 01:47:09 UTC

Do you know why the rocket curves Jeremy?

2019-05-05 01:48:04 UTC

Funny, because he said a 24/7 livestream of earth may convince him but he chooses to deny the ISS livestream as real.

2019-05-05 01:50:49 UTC

Someone I know of has an entire compilation of their own evidence that he strongly believes proves space fakery

2019-05-05 01:57:49 UTC

vaccines doent cause autism

2019-05-05 01:57:52 UTC

save the kids

2019-05-05 01:58:46 UTC

im civil debating

-- See this is a fine example right here? that separates "FEers" form "GEers" ๐Ÿ˜† smh

@AstralSentient -- you say someone says, a "24/7" livestream of earth, etc? ..and..you mention the "iss"? welp, ..um ..is ANY "stream' of the ISS.. a full 24/7? not even close

2019-05-05 02:01:20 UTC

explain how stars appear and disappear depending on where they are on earth

2019-05-05 02:01:28 UTC

that is not possible on a flat earth

--they alwasys supposeldy, switch cameras, etc, ..they shut down the feed every 20 to 40 minutes, etc, ...and ...those "youtube" streams? are NOT live, they have "edited' footage in them, and..will even tell you that in the video description..

2019-05-05 02:01:52 UTC

on a flat earth, you'd see the same stars everywhere no matter your position

2019-05-05 02:02:01 UTC

cuz light travels straight

2019-05-05 02:02:09 UTC

but that doesn't happen

2019-05-05 02:02:18 UTC

I didn't say it was, but it being 24/7 or not isn't going to have an impact on whether it is real or not, that is the point.

@der fuhrer's face you must've missed Art Class "perspective" day <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> ?

2019-05-05 02:02:30 UTC

in the southern hemisphere, you see the small and large magellanic clouds

2019-05-05 02:02:39 UTC

The iss livestream isnโ€™t 24/7 thatโ€™s what I mean have u even looked into it

2019-05-05 02:02:42 UTC

but you don't see that in the north hemisphere

2019-05-05 02:02:49 UTC

sunsets

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night

2019-05-05 02:03:21 UTC

and vaccines

2019-05-05 02:03:27 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง you'd still see the same stars if the earth was flat no matter what position on earth

2019-05-05 02:03:39 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง cuz of how light travels straight

the ground RAMPS UP

due to persepctive..

2019-05-05 02:03:51 UTC

wtf

2019-05-05 02:04:01 UTC

Perspective depends on light traveling straight

2019-05-05 02:04:11 UTC

its apparently perspective that light travelling staright

2019-05-05 02:04:23 UTC

like what no

2019-05-05 02:04:31 UTC

it's basic physics

2019-05-05 02:04:47 UTC

you'd see the same stars because you see the same portion of the sky

2019-05-05 02:04:51 UTC

but that doesn

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t

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happen

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The premise that light travels straight doesn't hold on a flat earth

2019-05-05 02:05:04 UTC

They got u fooled thinking u can see forever

2019-05-05 02:05:04 UTC

oh it doesn't

2019-05-05 02:05:08 UTC

Perspective

2019-05-05 02:05:09 UTC

im still confused weather how there is sunsests on a flat earth

2019-05-05 02:05:18 UTC

Go to bed Jeremy

2019-05-05 02:05:33 UTC

If u think u can see 300 light years away u might be wrong

@Alexandre how many times you need to be told/shown

2019-05-05 02:05:38 UTC

wtf its not perspective what stars you can see what stars you cant see

2019-05-05 02:05:53 UTC

The sun does not move around Earth

2019-05-05 02:05:57 UTC

u can see light years away if there is really bright light

2019-05-05 02:05:57 UTC

So the sun has to go under the earth

2019-05-05 02:06:02 UTC

I move around the Sun

"stars" in this example, they get PHYSICALLY OBSTRUCTED

2019-05-05 02:06:18 UTC

U canโ€™t see forever eventually the floor meets the ceiling

ON
(horizon) line

2019-05-05 02:06:32 UTC

on a flat earth, you look at the same portion of the sky, and so you see the same stars

2019-05-05 02:06:33 UTC

if there is no light no see

2019-05-05 02:06:34 UTC

Why don't these same rules apply to other planets?

2019-05-05 02:06:39 UTC

Stop making me debate I have to go to bed

2019-05-05 02:06:46 UTC

but we don't see the same stars

2019-05-05 02:06:51 UTC

You don't have to debate @jeremy

2019-05-05 02:06:55 UTC

It is your choice

2019-05-05 02:06:59 UTC

Not all stars get physically obstructed

2019-05-05 02:07:00 UTC

We donโ€™t see the same stars cause u canโ€™t see forever

2019-05-05 02:07:08 UTC

we see different galaxies, nebulas and stars depending on your position on earth

2019-05-05 02:07:13 UTC

Why isn't Mars flat?

2019-05-05 02:07:14 UTC

different ones

2019-05-05 02:07:17 UTC

then howcome we can see them now

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and not later

2019-05-05 02:07:30 UTC

also you can't just make stars outta nowhere

2019-05-05 02:07:39 UTC

My lightbulb on the ceiling is a sphere why is my floor flat

2019-05-05 02:07:40 UTC

take a telescope and zoom in on a star

2019-05-05 02:07:50 UTC

It has nothing to do with seeing forever, this is about the change in visible portions of the sky depending on location

@Earth - why is there no phyisca life on Mars?

= ERF DIFFERENT

2019-05-05 02:08:14 UTC

You're making no sense

it just hit me ! ๐Ÿ˜„

2019-05-05 02:08:20 UTC

Mike havenโ€™t u seen the mars rover photos their is life on Mars

๐Ÿ’ก

2019-05-05 02:08:26 UTC

yes but on a flat earth you see the same portion

2019-05-05 02:08:31 UTC

They found a rodent a duck mushrooms

2019-05-05 02:08:35 UTC

so we see the same stars

2019-05-05 02:08:40 UTC

All kinds of life on Mars

2019-05-05 02:08:44 UTC

but we don't see the same stars

2019-05-05 02:08:49 UTC

A flat earth isn't physically possibly, It's basic physics.

2019-05-05 02:08:50 UTC
2019-05-05 02:08:51 UTC

Come on people

2019-05-05 02:09:05 UTC

Add some pixie dust to it

2019-05-05 02:09:10 UTC

@AstralSentient more like light travels in a straight line and the earth is a globe

2019-05-05 02:09:33 UTC

I find that easier to believe

2019-05-05 02:09:35 UTC

if the earth was flat, we'd see the same stars no matter where you are on earth

2019-05-05 02:09:38 UTC

how can we not see the sun if the earth is flat

2019-05-05 02:09:39 UTC

but you don't

2019-05-05 02:09:44 UTC

Not true bob

2019-05-05 02:09:48 UTC

How do day/night cycles work

2019-05-05 02:09:54 UTC

on a flat earth?

2019-05-05 02:09:59 UTC

Well, it isn't true, in theory

yknow humanity has fลซcked up when the earth itself is showing to wake the fลซck up

2019-05-05 02:10:02 UTC

we see different ones depending on your positions on earth

@der fuhrer's face - stop repeating/parroting BS

2019-05-05 02:10:06 UTC

apparently the sun moves in circles

@der fuhrer's face i already told you what happens

2019-05-05 02:10:12 UTC

The floor always meets the ceiling and their is a point u canโ€™t see past

2019-05-05 02:10:18 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง idk how basic physics is bs but ok

2019-05-05 02:10:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/574417626529529856/Sunset.gif

2019-05-05 02:10:53 UTC

i see no curve

can you see past that end of hallway?

does that GROUND RISE/RAMP> UP

2019-05-05 02:11:05 UTC

like in the pictures

an the ceiling LOWERS?

--its simple

2019-05-05 02:11:26 UTC

Because of relative angles, yes

2019-05-05 02:11:34 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง You're basically using a ruler to measure a skyscraper

now, here's convergence CONVERGENCE ... hallway pic .. https://prnt.sc/g2ug63

2019-05-05 02:11:51 UTC

how does the sun bent

2019-05-05 02:11:54 UTC

light

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Same logic proves sun couldn't set on a flat earth unless it went under or light bends

2019-05-05 02:11:58 UTC

What happens if you zoom in?

2019-05-05 02:12:02 UTC

If u are on the floor u will see more of he ceiling

2019-05-05 02:12:07 UTC

A hallway is astronomically small compared to a planet

2019-05-05 02:12:12 UTC

Thatโ€™s how angular resolution works

2019-05-05 02:12:26 UTC

Yes not imagine that hallway went for miles

2019-05-05 02:12:30 UTC

Now

2019-05-05 02:12:32 UTC

Just because a hallway is flat does not mean the planet is flat

2019-05-05 02:12:47 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง on a flat earth, we'd see the same stars no matter where you are on earth because light travels in a straight line but we don't see that we see different astronomical objects depending on our position on earth and that can only happen on a globe earth and also that hallways is nothing compared to the horizon because the horizon is way farther away then that

2019-05-05 02:12:56 UTC

The planet shape doesn't have to correspond with our infrastructure

2019-05-05 02:12:58 UTC

He is pointing out that the floor meets the ceiling and eventually their is a point u canโ€™t see past

@Etzie visual aids/apparatuesus have "vanishing points" too
--just like the human eye
-- but visual instruments that can zoom, can see farther, thats all
but as said. they still have > vanishing points

they are limited too

2019-05-05 02:13:36 UTC

The globe model has u thinking u can see 300 light years away but it doesnโ€™t work like that

2019-05-05 02:13:41 UTC

Human eyes can't see an object miles away in clear detail

2019-05-05 02:13:42 UTC

also i meant globe earth my bad

2019-05-05 02:14:01 UTC

@jeremy you can see stars depending on how bright and big they are

2019-05-05 02:14:05 UTC

yes

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true

2019-05-05 02:14:11 UTC

it does work like that, that's basic physics

2019-05-05 02:14:24 UTC

How do day/night cycles work?

2019-05-05 02:14:27 UTC

No, optical limit of resolution is limited by objective lens diameter.

2019-05-05 02:14:28 UTC

So Polaris fits the inverse square law ur saying

2019-05-05 02:14:30 UTC

on a flat earth

2019-05-05 02:14:32 UTC

Just get a bigger lens

i love "fish-sticks" <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594>

2019-05-05 02:14:52 UTC

<:LOX:573236946856443907>

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Longer focal length

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@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง you did read the paragraph right?

u jus keep repeating

2019-05-05 02:15:14 UTC

cuz its true

ive told you what happens

-- uh no its not

2019-05-05 02:15:23 UTC

what happens then?

2019-05-05 02:15:33 UTC

It's perspective, just accept it

2019-05-05 02:15:39 UTC

It pisses me off by the fact that you can be so ignorant to avoid science proven evidence that the earth is a sphere.

told you 18 times

2019-05-05 02:15:53 UTC

oh ffs light traveling in a straight line is perspective

you dont even know what science is or means

2019-05-05 02:16:00 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> @fastkevin7 has been warned
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2019-05-05 02:16:00 UTC

that is quite dumb ngl

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Can be proven

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By science.

2019-05-05 02:16:06 UTC

I feel like whoever is defending the globe has nothing to offer I learned all this stuff in school if not I can find it on Wikipedia.

WHAT science?

2019-05-05 02:16:17 UTC

physics

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Every single claim you have can be proven.

Astrophysics? or, theoretical physics? ๐Ÿ˜†

2019-05-05 02:16:27 UTC

Literally

2019-05-05 02:16:31 UTC

Give me a claim...

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTT physics

2019-05-05 02:16:42 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง proven astrophysics, relativity

2019-05-05 02:16:45 UTC

@jeremy You mean no alternative explanation from reality? ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

ASSTROLL physics

2019-05-05 02:16:47 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง How do day/night cycles work on a flat earth?

small close local sun

timezones day/night,m seasons

2019-05-05 02:17:11 UTC

In reality the floor meets the ceiling and their comes a point u canโ€™t see past

2019-05-05 02:17:20 UTC

Do u not understand that

2019-05-05 02:17:20 UTC

How do seasons work?

2019-05-05 02:17:27 UTC

Does the sun change in angular size?

2019-05-05 02:17:27 UTC

you act all smart but you act like you debunked stars disappearing and reappearing by saying its "perspective"

@der fuhrer's face - relativity? you say? <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> ?

2019-05-05 02:17:32 UTC

why does trump need a wall if there is a ice wall <:smart:484956754489376781>

2019-05-05 02:17:35 UTC

<:smart:484956754489376781>

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Trump is retarded.

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Quite literally.

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The Sun is very very big

2019-05-05 02:17:58 UTC

flat earth is "perspective" because you feel like the earth is flat so you must say its true, right?

@der fuhrer's face

Physics you say?
โ–ฌand CALCULUS?
.... Ever heard of Louis Essen?... I highly doubt you have because he was conveniently silenced over 40+ years ago ! "The Special Theory of Relativity: A Critical Analysis"? A member of the National Physical Laboratory of the UK from which he retired in 1972 after being quietly warned not to continue his contradiction of Einstein's theory of relativity. _"No one has attempted to refute my arguments, but I was warned that if I persisted I was likely to spoil my career prospects... the continued acceptance and teaching of relativity hinders the development of a rational extension of electromagnetic theory."_ - Louis Essen F.R.S. "Relativity and time signals", Wireless World, Oct78, p44
-- What about (freemason) "Sir" Isaac Newtonโ†’ (a 33rd Degree Mason), .. Isaac Newton, who's said to be the discoverer of gravity, knew there were problems with his theory. He claims to have invented the idea early in his life, but he knew that no mathematician of his day would approve of his theory, so he invented a whole new branch of mathematics, called fluxions, just to "prove" his theory. This became calculus, a deeply flawed branch having to do with so-called "infinitesimals" which have never been observed. Then when Einstein invented a new theory of gravity, he too, used an obscure bit of mathematics called tensors. It seems that every time there is a theory of gravity, it is mixed up with fringe" mathematics. Newton, by the way, was far from a secular scientist, and the bulk of his writings is actually on theology and Christianity.

2019-05-05 02:18:07 UTC

There is no "local sun"

2019-05-05 02:18:08 UTC

we should be able to see the sun if the earth is flat

2019-05-05 02:18:09 UTC

Well u think we live in a magical place where we can see 300 light years away but it doesnโ€™t work like that

2019-05-05 02:18:18 UTC

even if its night

2019-05-05 02:18:48 UTC

jeremy we can see ligth years away if its super brigth and big

2019-05-05 02:18:55 UTC

U canโ€™t see 300 light years away Iโ€™m sorry to crush ur dreams

@Alexandre - how many times must you be told/shown?

2019-05-05 02:19:00 UTC

U canโ€™t

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but its really bright

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We're trying to explain that to you @jeremy

2019-05-05 02:19:23 UTC

...

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if there is light

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Iโ€™m explaining to u that u canโ€™t

2019-05-05 02:19:33 UTC

we can see it

2019-05-05 02:19:34 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง because its hard to explain such a force that is so weak and so strong at the same time

๐Ÿ”Ž

2019-05-05 02:20:01 UTC

U can see it cause it isnโ€™t 300 light years away

- In "Kings Dethroned", a book written in 1922, Gerard Hickson, the author, who wasn't even a flat earth believer per 'se, refutes Pythagoras, Hipparchus, Kepler, Galileo, Copernicus, Roemer, Kant, Newton, and Einstein. All within a 91 page book... yes it was that easy! Each of these (those) "scientists" went off on a tangent, building on the rationalizations of their predecessors.๏ปฟ

Just because a bunch of nuts deceive most to believe a lie/lies .. does not make it the truth.

2019-05-05 02:20:41 UTC

Are u guys telling me Polaris matches with the inverse square law ?

โ–ฌโ–ฌEINSTEIN plagiarist
Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist
http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-The-Incorrigible-Plagiarist/dp/0971962987
*Dont forget to read all the REVIEWS! --bahaha.

and..
have a Lookey at ..the book -- "the manufacture and sale of saint einstein"

,
And , let's see how this sits with you ..
โ–ฌEINSTEIN (wrote) ..
_โ€œYou imagine that I look back on my lifeโ€™s work with calm satisfaction. But from nearby it looks quite different. There is not a single concept of which I am convinced that it will stand firm, and I feel uncertain whether I am in general on the right track.โ€_ โ€” Albert Einstein, on his 70th birthday, in a letter to Maurice Solovine, 28 March 1949 (in B. Hoffman Albert Einstein: Creator and Rebel 1972, p.328)

2019-05-05 02:21:34 UTC

Do u know how big Polaris would have to be to match the inverse square law

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_drops the mic_ ๐ŸŽค

2019-05-05 02:22:00 UTC

i should see sun when its flat at night

2019-05-05 02:22:10 UTC

Good job, you can repeat and parrot bs ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-05-05 02:22:10 UTC

Hi

2019-05-05 02:22:11 UTC

Gravity made the mic fall mike

2019-05-05 02:22:20 UTC

Your science is based on ancient beliefs

2019-05-05 02:22:24 UTC

bs

@Alexandre - Does your Porch light LIGHT UP the whole city?

NO??
smh...

2019-05-05 02:22:42 UTC

Alexandra when the sun sets it has passed the point where the floor meets the ceiling

2019-05-05 02:22:47 UTC

but the sun is really bright

d'oh! it just hit me ๐Ÿ˜†

๐Ÿ’ก

2019-05-05 02:22:56 UTC

How do u not understand how seeing works

i got it now

lmao smh...

2019-05-05 02:23:12 UTC

What a stupid argument

2019-05-05 02:23:16 UTC

ik how it works

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