i need to be veryfied

veryfied

words

You kinda messed up on the horizon

made it straight?

yes

@STØRMIE Because a 2,000 year old text says i should have a problem with them

Nah it aint straight

U might get fired

mhm

no

hey rigg

It’s straight in the first image

Rigg is backing out nowhere

Now*

an artificial horizon will stay straight no matter what

Reasonable doubt to trust any high altitude footage

ISPRS Istanbul Workshop 2010 on Modeling of optical airborne and spaceborne Sensors, WG I/4, Oct. 11-13, IAPRS Vol. XXXVIII-1/W17. http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1-W17/5_Yilmaz.pdf @Drewski4343

hi

Temperature and pressure effect it

So if the camera wasnt designed for high altitude its basically worthless to use as evidence

Does anyone in this server still believe in an aether

Some do

High altitude cameras certainly aren’t designed for high altitudes

Does anyone in this server believe in photons

Yes

yes

Yes

yep

yep

Who

Lmao

dUmB sHeEpLe sMh

When was the last time you dumped out the photons from your camera

Wut

when i used flash

Tf are you at now

I find it impossible that people could still actually believe in an aether

@Superiorna_Artiljerija nice

Lol

That’s good

@Citizen Z Aren't GoPros sealed? I mean, it probably would affect the casing in a strong vacuum, but there's still air density that far up in the video.

Well ppl believe we are spinning and flying through an infinite vacuum. So...i.mean..

i keep using flash but photons just keep coming out

anyone got a fix?

Light is a perturbation of the aether, photons are another deception

Doesnt matter if its sealed

@Rigg5 you're serious?

Temp and press still effect it

Its got to be designed for high altitude

Otherwise we are wasting our time

It’s wasting time to assume things about camera types without reason

^

Yes thats what you are doing. @GreenPixel

Assuming

irony

Ok then

it does matter if it's sealed, though. that's how people can survive the pressure in submarines...

Thats why its not evidence

@Rigg5 or do you actually believe in an aether, which has been disproved multiple times

If you turned off the heat in the submarine you would freeze for 1

yes, of course.

Then why do Flat Earthers use photos so much?

hi friends

Hello

hm

helloo

Photon is just a word

Its a point of light

i hav gneius whquention to ask

photons arent real now?

😂

onbly gjeinious can answer

@Citizen Z I mean, people also believe that we may or may not exist on either a disc or a plane which magically supports the sun and moon on set orbits but somehow is able to simulate the natural phenomena of gravity, which somehow also simulates tidal forces as well as may or may not having another layer of continents going out in a ring method or might just have an infinite expanse of ice, both models sound stupid with the right wording

what ss the idf

i don't think the definition of photon is "point of light"

Why do tidal nodes and high tides not match with the position of the moon

Photons are particles/waves, right?

Yep

They are both in some ways

@Superiorna_Artiljerija think of a building or boat or mountain as million of photons bouncing off them and coming to your eye

Trillions

Gazillions

the things are tiny Z it dosent matter much

like subatomic

They have no mass

Anyway @SiliconBassist and @AnUnknownRider God loves you and understands that many people 'know not what they do'. He sacrificed for you anyway. He is a God of logic and He is infinitely just. Anything you think seems like unfair judgement, he will make it right and perfect in the end. Wherever everybody ends up will make perfect sense. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." /end preach

big yikes

yikes

I need more coffee

ice coffee?

@TheRockisCookin a super position of waves

i am hilarious

Nah hot coffee

Dark coffee

latte

good for the soul

Also, do people here actually believe in density/buoyancy

Hot chocolate better

you probably need to down a few alcohol to deal with this

Or whatever they believe replaces gravity

We don’t do ice coffee because our ice comes from our tap water which has too much sulfur

oof

RIP

We don’t have city water

City water aint much better tbh

last time i was here there was no "replacement" for gravity, it was just straight up denied and left at that

all gud 🙂

its truly baffling how you guys dont believe in satellites but directed energy weapons surely exist

City water sucks

Well, then an explanation for stuff we relate to gravity in the globe model

Gravity as a force is just an abstraction of Archimedes Principle

Even my sulphur water is better

I've yet to see a single one that's actually plausible

Gravity is unnecessary

It's cosmetic

@RidleyChozo okay, so what takes it's place

When you get a pit viper in the sink

How do you explain objects falling

thats some hot quality water

Light being bent around stars

Last time i checked gravity was law within a theory

they just do

Hi

Time being dialated at high altitudes

How do you explain helium balloons falling upwards?

Hi

>falling upwards

Physics lmao

Falling upwards Lmfao

@Shadow✓ retardation of rods in a clock. Not very good evidence

Everything is laws within a theory

Buoyancy!

@Citizen Z you don't know how these experiments were carried out, then

I got coffee ☕️

Yum

👍

I'm not talking about moving clocks by the way

I'm reffering to general, not special, relativity

As that's what actually deals with gravity

Sure it does

"no u"

What a comeback

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_clock_problem_(clock_paradox)_in_relativity

Super cool info there

VwV

Check it out

That's a bibliography about again time dialation in special relativity

I'm seriously wondering if you know the difference

We sharing reading material?

oof I don't have image perms

now wait

yea?

@Citizen Z also

You never responded to me last time

if gravity doesn't exist, what's the explanation behind gravitational time dilation

I presented you an experiment and confirmation of GR

And you said "I've never seen it before so I'll look"

http://www.conspiracyoflight.com/SagnacRel/SagnacandRel.html time dilation https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/439452160640548864/455554098566135819/Screenshot_20180515-072847-1-1.jpg

Then never talked about it again

What experiment

Who wants to talk about gravimeters? 😃

I do

nice

What do you think they prove

Have you ever used one?

Well they prove that mass attracts mass

And they measure that attraction

with a super duper sensitive spring device

They buried 5 tons of lead in the ground, then they used this super sensitive spring device called a gravimeter and moved it slowly horizontally over it. When more mass is under it, the spring compresses more. I'd show a graph, but I don't have image permissions, so here's a link to the tests they did. http://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC110440/jrc110440_technical_note_preparatory_tests_2016-17.pdf

I have never used one

Have you heard of the Allias Effect

No

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allais_effect

Abstract
Conventional explanations for observations of anomalous behaviour of mechanical
systems during solar eclipses are critically reviewed. These observations include the work
of Allais with paraconical pendula, those of Saxl and Allen with a torsion pendulum and
measurements with gravimeters. Attempts of replications of these experiments and recent
gravimeter results are discussed and unpublished data by Latham and by Saxl et al. is
presented. Some of the data are summarized and re-analyzed. Especially, attention is paid
to observations of tilt of the vertical, which seems to play an important role in this matter
and recommendations for future research are given. It is concluded that all the proposed
conventional explanations either qualitatively or quantitatively fail to explain the
observations.

Thanks for the info

Haven't they failed to recreate this effect so far?

Yeah np. Ty also

@IG have they?

I haven't read about in a long time

I know people plan every eclipse to try and recreate it, I just haven't heard of someone being successful.

The veracity of the Allais effect remains controversial among the scientific community, as its testing has frequently met with inconsistent or ambiguous results over more than five decades of observation.

@Citizen Z you do realize atomic clocks existed before einstein right

But I'll read more

It's still interesting

@Shadow✓ they dont prove anything

still no answer to my question

whatever

@Citizen Z is that your best response

The paper you sent seemed to assume that all atomic clocks rely on the speed of light

I can easily show this paper doesn't negate anything considering we have atomic clocks earlier than einstein's theory was even developed and they worked without assumptions of lightspeed

I'm not even going to bother with reading the actual paper

Besides, they do prove that atomic clocks at higher altitudes (farther away from earths core in the globe model) tick at a different rate than those closer. In accordance with general relativity and with gravity.

Not to mention, that's only a single proof of GR.

I can name many, many more, and besides even if general relativity was proven incorrect it's not like density is plausible as an alternative.

https://youtu.be/SXR25ofqD58 @Shadow✓

Density/buoyancy as replacement for gravity is *easily* disproven.

A little common sense goes a long way

nice like/dislike ratio

A video could have a million likes. Doesnt mean its true

I have a good example of trickery in videos but many didnt see it.

ok

Let me find

I have a somewhat distantly related question. Should I put it here or in another channel?

So...this video, at first glance tends to give credit to some coriolis force. But all the lady is doing is a magic trick. She is pouring the water into the sink at in a certain side of the sink to make the water flow a certain way. Closely analyzing this and it becomes clear this is a trick.
https://youtu.be/4IIVfoDuVIw

@SiliconBassist you can post your questions in here.

Look at like/dislike ratio

Okay

The notion itself is true though

well, at least I know its fake

28k likes. That means 28k ppl were tricked

3.4 million views

That video was probably faked but the thing it was talking about does actually happen

Likely millions tricked

@Death9Reaper no it doesnt

I haved done the experiment with some friends in Australia and different parts of the world

If you pour water into a container it will stay in motiom for weeks

It does work

No it doesnt

I have seen it before

This mathematician debunked it

Miles Mathis THE CORIOLIS EFFECT DECONSTRUCTED : http://milesmathis.com/corio.html

There was this popular science account on twitter that made a lot of false explanations for things observed in videos. I forget what it was called

Don't weather effects rotate in different directions based on the hemisphere?

Do you just have that as a shortcut citizen

Lol

@IG thats the claim

What if you saw that wasnt true?

I can show you

Nasa demonstrates

Not the best source i agree

@Citizen Z lmfao

I mean one example of it being different isn't going to change much, but if it were common that they were the same you'd have something.

But interesting

Is that really what you're using?

If you claim nasa lies then you cant use nasa as a source

I provide a test with high precision atomic clocks at altitudes of significant difference

It's a tendency, not a guarantee.

>>mute @Shadow✓

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully muted **Shadow✓**#8303

Oof

To those who claim things fall due to air pressure: If air pressure is higher at lower altitudes, why do most things you drop fall down and not up? I don't want this to turn into yet another argument about gravity. I mostly just want to know your explanation.

Look at all the spins. Pay close attention to the dust coming off north Africa

https://youtu.be/h1eRp0EGOmE

air moves from areas of high pressure to low pressure

I'm not seeing any hurricanes..

Ah there's one.

Not just hurricanes

Look at everything

The only relevant one would be hurricanes and tornadoes.

The rest is just normal weather patterns interacting.