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A lot
Like dirty filthy commies
However, because flat earth is one of our conspiracies, we attract many bully-like trolls...globules that is. ๐
And hobgoblins
Lol
this is certainly reflection You can see a horizon line behind the boat https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/533407941412388871/ship-fatamorgana-600x319.png
I mean, I do consider flat earth a validly discoursible conspiracy. I just don't consider it good debate because I can't be convinced the earth is flat, and I've already been in to the hilt with all the flat earther tactics, so for me it's only really worthwhile when the flat earther crowd comes up with a new one.
A new tactic. ๐ค
It is generally accepted that mirage is formed when temperature of the ground surface, in a flat area like desert, is higher than the temperatures of the over ground air layers. In this case, light emerging from a distant object makes total internal reflection in the air layers and forms the image of the object that is called mirage. Our investigation on mirage formation in desert indicates that there is no meaningful relation between mirage formation and temperature change over the ground. In addition, we show that, the interference of the lights reflected from different air layers destroys the coherency of the image forming light. This happens because the temperature change occurs in an interval larger than a wavelength. In the second part of the report we demonstrate theoretically and experimentally that flat rough surfaces behave like mirrors at very large incident angles. We show that there is a threshold incident angle for observation of image in a rough surface that depends on the surface roughness and light wavelength. The shortest distance between observer and the image is determined by the threshold incident angle. Mirage is such an image. Image formation is studied in rough sheet glass surfaces that prepared by grinding with powders of different sizes.
I do like some of the side discussions that come up. Especially about questioning the completeness of theories about electromagnetism (especially concerning Earth's magnetosphere), gravity, and light physics.
Jadon. You must first understand why flat earthers have come to their belief...then you will be able to debate better. ๐
If we don't question the theory of gravity, for instance, we'll never dismantle it and improve on it towards unifying it with other theories.
in short its just reflection, thats what a mirage is
Actually, <@484198784901840897> Citizen has been giving you valuable info that you choose to ignore.
there is no evidence i have seen with measurements of boats being shown to go over any curve. its always just assumed a curve because the boat starts disappearing or miraging
its not the same whatsoever
<@484198784901840897> Can I assume you learned about refraction with lenses?
<@484198784901840897> what happens to light when it passes through a convex lens?
Really focusing on thr issue now
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/533410207565479944/unknown.png
If we turn the image 90 degrees , AT a further distance that would look like one windows and the horizon would appear to be where the wall is
Disregard the light part of the graphic and just think about the wave form. Imagine the ground or sea is like that. With a Side view , Say you are all the way on the right looking toward the left at the same height as the wave peaks. You would see nothing not light that goes "inside" the waves. To the observer it would appear as a smooth surface
What happens to light with a convex lens?
I mainly came here to see if anybody has listened to the recent Conspiracy Unlimited podcast about Paul Is Dead.
Thatโs correct Jadon.
@HyperBaroque no you can post?
If the earth is convex...in relation to parallel light rays coming from the sun...why do the rays not converge?
Gas content of the atmosphere, Gwench.
When passing through our atmosphere.
Basically, our atmosphere isn't glass?
The atmosphere must also be convex. That would be a logical conclusion...yes?
My point is this. When I present valid questions...your answer is always atmospheric refraction. BS. You gotta do better than that.
What happens when the sun hits our atmosphere , according to some recent theories, is more like the energizing of a plasma field than the passing of light through a perfect glass medium.
could be i dont think anyone knows for sure
I agree that Earth atmospheric science is still too sketchy.
Some neat theories, such as one that says the magnetic fields of Earth and Sun are interlinked in a somewhat lifelike manner, with them "breathing" energy back and forth, get shoved aside and labeled "fringe". And long held veliefs such as that the ozone hole has repaired itself are being overthrown. So I consider a lot of atmospheric science to be in disarray.
<@484198784901840897> moving lines of flux, basically.
@HyperBaroque yes they are neat
Flux is just the observable lines of electromagnetic force.
Again, this is debatable down to the point where we can question electromagnetism itself, of course.
I just think that a theory positing a more dynamic and interactive relationship between the Earth's and Sun's magnetospheres seems worthwhile scientifically (whether or not new agers latch on because it sounds cool,) and it's sort of a shame is gets treated as bunk and not looked at at all by people who want everything to be simplified and deadened.
Skepticism is great and all but it can become a cult like entity.
@HyperBaroque Your comment is interesting. ๐ค
If the earth is flat, all the dinosaurs must've went flying into space
A cult is based on doctrine, is it not?
Typically, Gwench, yes.
@Sofuto Ando Wetto That one is old. Get original please.
Hello
Hey
Well can you prove its not true?
And "science" can easily become too tightly adhered to as doctrinal instead of exploratory, and thereby become a replacement religion.
(Which of course kills science.)
We get into trouble when we believe everything weโre told without questioning or researching it ourselves.
Prove the earth is flat, then
@The Gwench exactly.
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Tell me
Which is why I see no harm in flat earth belief. If anything, it provides exactly the shake-up that the scientific establishments are sorely in need of.
Prove to me that the earth is flat
If you can do so, i will become a full fledged flat earther
And spread the trurth
Why don't you prove that it isn't?
Heh, that's easy. Please, sit in this chair nd place these electrodes on your scalp.
@Sofuto Ando Wetto I donโt care which you believe in. Sorry. Your pledge does not entice me.
Aight, I will
Go to the beach
||I'm not even a flat Earther||
And watxh a boat
If you end up not seeing the boat after awhile
It went around the curve
@gohan lol
Can you prove that the reason it disappeared is because of a curve?
Can you prove it isn't?
You're the one explaining right now, aren't you?
So prove that it's due to a curve.
Face it. None of us can prove jack shit.
I am willing to believe that if the universe is a simulation, then for some of us the Earth really truly is flat, for others it is a globe, and the only data and communication the simulation allows across is that which can't interfere with that [experience / perception] either way.
@Sofuto Ando Wetto argue on your own merits, or not at all.
Don't let a video prove stuff for you.
@Sofuto Ando Wetto Your status here is not going to improve by posting videos.
@Sofuto Ando Wetto In your own words, please give proof of a globe earth or the curve of the earth.
spoiler: it is next to impossible, @Sofuto Ando Wetto
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Watch a boat go over the curve
Watch the sunset, first laying down- then quickly stand up- and the sun will still be there.
I cannot see skyscrapers more than 3 miles away.
I have. In L.A.
From a high altitude?
Hmm ๐ค I have. Toronto actually.
Ground level
Not really high, maybe 60 feet.
"I cannot see skyscrapers more than 3 miles away."
You can see the scrapers of the nearby city, about what ... 14 miles away, like big black silhouettes.
Might wanna get your vision checked buddy
Shit i blind as Frick then
Yikes. Maybe itโs bad pollution.
They look like some kind of artefact. It's a really pleasant, scifi like experience.
Why is literally every other planet a shpere then?
Not a single planet is a sphere.
yOU knOw wHAt I MeAN
Hollow Moon is a fun theory, too, guys.
Do I really know what you mean?
Seems a bit presumptuous to assume that I do.
~~I should have phrased that better~~
guys/girls
||probably||
Yes?
Excuse me, what about non-binary people?
~~petition to add sarcasm font~~
hi
Hi
Hi minty
what is the enrolling role?
guys/girls/specimens
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That's better @HyperBaroque
Lol
why can't I talk in the reilgion section
Earth is a pyramid
Lol
Oh hi minty
Hello
hi
Hi hellcat
Hi minty
Hi yalll
Can I have a mint minty
yus
YAY
*gives mint*
Me too?
*takes the mint*
Ok, so this is a conspiracy place?
Shane dawson?
maybe mando... mayve
Like for hitler didn't die and stuff?
*maybe
ok
I dunno, I am new.
<:woke:494925103675473921>
Hello
Also, im sorry minty
Friends again?
why can't I talk in the religion section
how
you need to be here for a bit and be somewhat trusted your not going to spam everything
Hello. ๐
ok
Hmmm
I have a question, what is this whole gay agenda thing and do gay people go to hell
I run a debate/political server and that's where a few kf these new members come from
Hi corgi
So
We wanna debate religion ig?
Uncle corgi, you meant nationstates.
yus
hmm
oh
I think the Earth is a Pyramid
@Corgi welcome ๐
this pink colour is quite nice
Harro
calming and relaxed
Silences mango
can someone tell me what the gay agenda is
I believe in heaven there is so much sex of different kinds, and probably a lot of gay sex.
okay
ok
corgi is a doggo.
Don't be fooled
Perhaps
*belly rubs Corgi*
But I'm not a furry like so many lf you seem to think
No
I am a furry
gay agenda is about media and tv and enternment, homosexulizing the culture with gay characters. as if the population was more than 1% gay
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He's just a corgi liver
uh
okay
what percentage of americans are gay?
99%
oh
I'm that 1%
Same
Me too
no it is 4.5 percent
Of straight
I googled it
It seems like everyone is gay these days. ๐
i see the trend of naming your bots is common in all servers
<@484198784901840897> I just figure by the time everyone is dead there's no need for petty "rules" and God is just like, hey, do what you will. Have at. And nobody really cares because it's all in good fun.
flatsmack is there a reason for that though?
are they making the kids gay>
Who thinks the Earth could be a pyramid
*gay?
Swedish ur right
The earth is clearly a pyramid;
I mean nasa is stupid
Who is swedish
Oh
lol
I heard that soy milk can change our hormones. Thus the term soy boys.
I meant sexy guy
I'm willing to hedge on the Earth being an oblate tetrahedron.
Tom
weird
It's the God Mister Meseeks
I drank soy milk once
now I am gay
true story
You look good today @Sexy Switzerland
I drank the milk
Yup
I am infected
help
<@484198784901840897> sweeeet
What
You drank the cow milk?
how do I get cured
no I drank the soy milk
I am a furry
the soy milk
gross.
it made me gay
The only way
To get not Gay
Is pray errday
The Gay away
LOL
o
yes
wtf lol
why would you want to be a furry
hellcat did you not know this
No
oh
wait
did you not know I was a furry or a gay
Both
o
okay then
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