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2018-09-08 03:48:06 UTC

All my cats are vegan

2018-09-08 03:48:18 UTC

Wow

2018-09-08 03:48:19 UTC

Have they died yet

2018-09-08 03:48:22 UTC

That isnt good

2018-09-08 03:48:25 UTC

They gonna die

2018-09-08 03:48:50 UTC

There was that lady who said her dog was vegan

2018-09-08 03:49:03 UTC

And when they tested it it went straight for the meat

2018-09-08 03:49:05 UTC

Gottem

2018-09-08 03:49:09 UTC

I'm not dumb

2018-09-08 03:49:15 UTC

Are you sure

2018-09-08 03:49:20 UTC

^

2018-09-08 03:49:33 UTC

I know cats are carnivores

2018-09-08 03:49:41 UTC

Then why not give them meat

2018-09-08 03:49:54 UTC

They don't ethically think it's okay

2018-09-08 03:50:06 UTC

Give them meat soup

2018-09-08 03:50:11 UTC

<:megalul:485077677175472148>

2018-09-08 03:50:23 UTC

God I want KFC gravy

2018-09-08 03:50:34 UTC

Lol

2018-09-08 03:50:37 UTC

I just want some KFC chicken

2018-09-08 03:50:42 UTC

Extra crispy

2018-09-08 03:50:56 UTC

I don't like bones

2018-09-08 03:50:59 UTC

This is how angular resolution works physically in the eye.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459802853524111361/1_EN.png
Cameras work the same way.
The cones of the retina is a zoom in of the eye. If the angular size of the target is not enough to activate more than a single cones/sensor the object is unresolvable.
There are 3 ways to decrease angular separation.
1. Move the two separate targets further or closer together.
2.Increase the distance.
3. Change the angle of view.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459805458644074511/angseperation.jpg

First here is a demonstration of how angle of view changes the angular separation of 2 targets. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459806914331541504/unknown.png

For example in this image, as the stop sign's angular size shrinks from distance or angle, the image that prjected onto the retina also shrinks. Eventually it will reach such as small size the eye can not physically detect the light. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459808085436006410/refraction_cornea.png
A geometric analogy would be closing a pair of scissors. When the scissor tips are closer together than the spacing between the rods and cones of the eye then you get to see the target. The point where the tips cross from too close to normal vision is the angular resolution.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459817803038326784/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459818062858682368/65116694_resized550bbc_sg_g4_eye.png
When the angle of view becomes to much it pretty much goes parallel, but you lose sight of the ground before that. It's the same on the globe too but even worse because the angle of view is increasing quicker because of the curving away of the ball surface.

2018-09-08 03:51:09 UTC

They are using this stuff for self-driving cars. To automate the driving they have to turn the perspective view into an orthographic top down view.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459807394109849600/fig_2.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459807507745996810/hqdefault.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459818062858682368/65116694_resized550bbc_sg_g4_eye.png
The soure of that image.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/0/20937803

Even though the title is BS. No one sees further. You ONLY capture more light.

This is how they build telescopes, to capture light.
Large telescope are reflectors. The larger convex lens gets the more distortion. So they made this. It all works the same generally speaking. A telescope will only help so much. It depends on the light collecting ability that is determined by the diameter of the lens. Some of these aren't built yet...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/460954948222320640/512px-Comparison_optical_telescope_primary_mirrors.png
They are making the lens bigger not building 15 mile long telescopes.

Here is a demonstration of angular resultion effects with an eye charts 1D is distance from chart 2D is 2 time the distance etc...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/460955465246048256/unknown.png

2018-09-08 03:51:15 UTC

Accompanying information and imagery to go with the above PDFs and resources.

"As he looks downward toward his feet the slant approaches zero, as he looks upward the slant increases, as the center of ckesr vision approaches the horizon the slant becomes maximal, and at the horizon itself the land ceases to be a surface and becomes an edge."

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458196098767388674/461973747197411339/Screenshot_20180628-121601_Drive.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458196098767388674/461973747776094228/Screenshot_20180628-121640_Drive.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458196098767388674/459444571332411412/Screenshot_20180621-113400_Drive.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458099953349427210/461804044697075712/unknown-35-1-1.png

2018-09-08 03:51:25 UTC

Jesus fucking Christ

2018-09-08 03:51:33 UTC

Lol

2018-09-08 03:51:40 UTC

lol wat

2018-09-08 03:52:02 UTC

Dump of dumps

2018-09-08 03:52:10 UTC

O

2018-09-08 03:52:36 UTC

Remember to give citations at least

2018-09-08 03:52:58 UTC

[John 11:35]

2018-09-08 03:52:59 UTC

2018-09-08 03:53:09 UTC

So much text

2018-09-08 03:53:32 UTC

So much scrolling

2018-09-08 03:53:48 UTC

Jesus wept is a good quote

2018-09-08 03:54:01 UTC

I agree

2018-09-08 03:54:17 UTC

Citations are there

2018-09-08 03:54:21 UTC

I can post that on people's cringe compilations

2018-09-08 03:54:42 UTC

Citations where

2018-09-08 03:56:58 UTC

@[Ex-Mitch] 21.2.19 It’s really great to see you. Are you on a time limit?

2018-09-08 03:57:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487833771106893844/Airy_disk_spacing_near_Rayleigh_criterion-2.png

2018-09-08 03:57:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487833771291312128/Gradiant_Slope_and_opbjects_blurring_from_togther_from_the_bottom_up.-1.png

2018-09-08 03:57:15 UTC

Somewhat.

2018-09-08 03:58:01 UTC

Hey mitch

2018-09-08 03:58:15 UTC

👋

2018-09-08 03:58:28 UTC

Don't feel like speaking right now.

2018-09-08 03:58:40 UTC

Listen.

2018-09-08 04:01:29 UTC

Hey Mitch

2018-09-08 04:05:18 UTC

#BYEEEEEEEEE

2018-09-08 04:08:30 UTC

No

2018-09-08 04:08:47 UTC

I'm having connection issues

2018-09-08 04:09:53 UTC

I'm in the chat

2018-09-08 04:10:21 UTC

It's too late for me to contribute properly

2018-09-08 04:12:23 UTC

I'm sure

2018-09-08 04:14:41 UTC

I have my own work to do

2018-09-08 04:14:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487838170650509312/DeathStar.gif

2018-09-08 04:15:15 UTC

#PerfectCircleBlueMarble

2018-09-08 04:15:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487838326741663764/rightherelouisDUURRRR.png

2018-09-08 04:15:25 UTC

The 24/7 FE Discord folks are a bunch of assholes.

2018-09-08 04:15:40 UTC

Nothing new there

2018-09-08 04:15:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487838421319155714/evensoundlyisbetter.png

2018-09-08 04:16:14 UTC

Beautiful flat-ness

2018-09-08 04:17:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487838815071764500/20180324_185321.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487838815071764501/20180324_185430.png

2018-09-08 04:17:25 UTC

<:globiegoggles:485140915149864980>

2018-09-08 04:17:32 UTC

<:globiegoggles:485140915149864980>

2018-09-08 04:20:28 UTC

LoL

2018-09-08 04:22:10 UTC

<:nasalies:485141702403686403> 🐒

2018-09-08 04:25:04 UTC

LoL

2018-09-08 04:25:09 UTC

*cock shot*

2018-09-08 04:29:06 UTC

K

2018-09-08 04:33:51 UTC

Brb.

2018-09-08 04:38:09 UTC
2018-09-08 04:38:24 UTC

Take care everyone

2018-09-08 05:05:24 UTC

Got a call

2018-09-08 06:00:16 UTC

Alright, @Deleted User has been warned because '**Duplicated text**'.

2018-09-08 09:09:01 UTC

@j harrod welcome

2018-09-08 09:09:35 UTC

gave you the undecided (on the fence role), you can assign yourself roles in <#484538051415113748>

2018-09-08 09:43:31 UTC

Ok thanks 😀

2018-09-08 13:04:32 UTC

Morning all =)

2018-09-08 13:42:58 UTC

Lol

2018-09-08 13:47:11 UTC

Do they know how to do that already and are just looking for a cost cutting thing?

2018-09-08 13:48:29 UTC

Or do they really think that a couple teams will make the breakthrough? $1 mill is nothing compared to the budgets of some experiments

2018-09-08 13:48:47 UTC

Probably a bit of both

2018-09-08 13:51:32 UTC

Often offering up a bit of money can help kick start the development of what they need

2018-09-08 13:52:22 UTC

NASA’s budget is fairly limited so if they can avoid footing the bill for what seems to be a brand new chemical process, I can’t say I blame them

2018-09-08 13:52:26 UTC

Lol puppy

2018-09-08 13:52:36 UTC

Its a scam

2018-09-08 13:52:44 UTC

K man whatever you say

2018-09-08 13:53:36 UTC

U believe and defend all government propaganda

2018-09-08 13:53:40 UTC

Even if it doesn’t get used to go to mars, a vast number of technologies nasa helped develop end up being used in places on earth that we would never expect

2018-09-08 13:53:48 UTC

Not my fault u r gullible

2018-09-08 13:54:28 UTC

If you do a bit of googling around you’ll find a gigantic list of technologies that they helped develop

2018-09-08 13:54:44 UTC

And who makes the money

2018-09-08 13:54:54 UTC

So what

2018-09-08 13:55:14 UTC

The industries that use their new technology to make new products make the money

2018-09-08 13:55:16 UTC

Doesnt mean they r using it in space

2018-09-08 13:55:40 UTC

They cant goto space members

2018-09-08 13:55:58 UTC

They lost that tech member

2018-09-08 13:56:01 UTC

Eh

2018-09-08 13:56:06 UTC

What about the reflector on the moon?

2018-09-08 13:56:45 UTC

Surely that proves that we've been up there? You can bounce a laser off of it

2018-09-08 13:56:51 UTC

Nobody says we lost the tech to go to space

2018-09-08 13:58:33 UTC

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies even if they didn’t go to space, there’s a ton of things there that directly impact everyday life

2018-09-08 13:58:50 UTC

Deep space

2018-09-08 13:58:51 UTC
2018-09-08 13:58:55 UTC

?

2018-09-08 13:59:03 UTC

The clue is that it's the first four words of the title

2018-09-08 13:59:37 UTC

Don’t have data to watch it, what does it say?

2018-09-08 13:59:38 UTC

They say it all the time

2018-09-08 13:59:48 UTC

Watch the article i linked

2018-09-08 14:00:18 UTC

They cant goto the moon or deep spaces

2018-09-08 14:00:28 UTC

Well they’re not wrong at the moment

2018-09-08 14:00:37 UTC

I don’t see any flight worthy Saturn Vs

2018-09-08 14:01:04 UTC

Its a scam

2018-09-08 14:01:21 UTC

The biggest scam ever

2018-09-08 14:01:45 UTC

A scam that produces a vast list of useful technologies for everyone? 🤔

2018-09-08 14:01:55 UTC

For money

2018-09-08 14:02:03 UTC

Who cares about their motive

2018-09-08 14:02:14 UTC

Nasa is Mostly an advertising company

2018-09-08 14:02:24 UTC

Everyone does their job for money

2018-09-08 14:02:48 UTC

They care about money. That's why they use space to promote

2018-09-08 14:03:02 UTC

Well you’re technically not wrong

2018-09-08 14:03:25 UTC

Get a bunch of money to build a bunch of shit because people want to go to space and they build something that only we can use here and sell here and they sell it and make money and patent it all

2018-09-08 14:03:56 UTC

Crowd sourcing it all. Theives

2018-09-08 14:04:20 UTC

Ok man you clearly don’t want to listen to me so carry on believing what you want

2018-09-08 14:04:41 UTC

Just curious as to why nasa are so evil but all the other space agencies never get mentioned

2018-09-08 14:04:44 UTC

Its not a belief

2018-09-08 14:05:28 UTC

Nasa is a propagandizing advertisement company

2018-09-08 14:05:42 UTC

...that produces huge amounts of valuable technology?

2018-09-08 14:05:42 UTC

Advertising what?

2018-09-08 14:05:43 UTC

The feel good agency

2018-09-08 14:05:55 UTC

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS lots of things

2018-09-08 14:06:01 UTC

Balls mostly

2018-09-08 14:06:15 UTC

Lol

2018-09-08 14:07:28 UTC

I think the tech benefits are good even if space isn't real

2018-09-08 14:07:37 UTC

That’s exactly my point

2018-09-08 14:07:48 UTC

Good for them especially

2018-09-08 14:08:08 UTC

Even if it turned out all the space stuff is bs you’d still get huge amounts of life changing technology from them

2018-09-08 14:08:10 UTC

I mean you sent that picture of the tinfoil blanket thing right?

2018-09-08 14:08:13 UTC

That's NASA

2018-09-08 14:08:26 UTC

Memory foam is legit and that's NASA

2018-09-08 14:08:32 UTC

NASA steals others ppls ideas

2018-09-08 14:08:49 UTC

It would be invented regardless

2018-09-08 14:08:54 UTC

When did they do that?

2018-09-08 14:09:01 UTC

Not without the funding NASA has

2018-09-08 14:09:04 UTC

Every day

2018-09-08 14:09:16 UTC

Can you give specifics?

2018-09-08 14:09:49 UTC

U think NASA creates these things? Its just other ppls ideas

2018-09-08 14:10:09 UTC

I mean. NASA hires people to make things.

2018-09-08 14:10:26 UTC

Hello 😃

2018-09-08 14:10:35 UTC

Having an idea and developing it into a viable technology are very different things

2018-09-08 14:10:38 UTC

Sup man

2018-09-08 14:10:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/487988159041503242/Screenshot_20180908-071029_Chrome.jpg

2018-09-08 14:11:01 UTC

>under contract from nasa

2018-09-08 14:11:04 UTC

A person

2018-09-08 14:11:13 UTC

Hired by NASA

2018-09-08 14:11:17 UTC

Paid by NASA

2018-09-08 14:11:19 UTC

Under the guise of fake space

2018-09-08 14:11:32 UTC

Irrelevant, it was still invented as a result of nasa

2018-09-08 14:11:42 UTC

Therefore it’s considered a technology developed by nasa

2018-09-08 14:11:51 UTC

Bruh I can still use a cool pillow idc if it's under a guise

2018-09-08 14:14:08 UTC

Why would they make it anyway

2018-09-08 14:14:13 UTC

Like if space wasn't real

2018-09-08 14:14:36 UTC

DOLLA DOLLA

2018-09-08 14:14:43 UTC

It was invented for high G while going into space right? A niche use

2018-09-08 14:15:24 UTC

They initially developed LIDAR for automated docking of fake spacecraft in fake space, but now that same technology is used for LASIK surgeries

2018-09-08 14:15:39 UTC

Who cares why they developed it, it’s fantastically useful in unforeseen places

2018-09-08 14:16:37 UTC

I don't know I just can't link in my head why they would spend money developing these niche things and only sending a few to market in unrelated fields

2018-09-08 14:17:24 UTC

Like if NASA was commercial tech company surely they'd be like Apple or Amazon trying to sell everything they make for a profit

2018-09-08 14:18:02 UTC

If they are so obsessed with money why license tech for other companies to sell

2018-09-08 14:18:13 UTC

Instead theyre constantly making their patents public domain so anyone can use them for free

2018-09-08 14:18:19 UTC

Doesn’t seem good for business to me

2018-09-08 14:18:51 UTC

I mean Tesla gets similar finding from the US government and yet they still sell everything they can

2018-09-08 14:19:28 UTC

No one accuses them of being money hungry

2018-09-08 14:20:44 UTC

JAXA gets 2 billion dollars a year from the Japanese government, I don’t see anyone accusing them of being a scam

2018-09-08 14:21:03 UTC

(I mean I will hate Tesla and Musk but only because I'm a disgusting socialist)

2018-09-08 14:21:33 UTC

I don't mind Tesla but I find musk has ego problems

2018-09-08 14:21:40 UTC

ESA gets almost €6 billion a year, no one calls them a scam

2018-09-08 14:21:52 UTC

Musk seems to be going off the rails a tad recently

2018-09-08 14:22:00 UTC

Tesla is funding battery technology so that's a green light from me

2018-09-08 14:22:03 UTC

Tesla themselves are great

2018-09-08 14:22:10 UTC

I’ve driven one, it is absolutely sublime

2018-09-08 14:22:24 UTC

I think musk needs to see a psychologist

2018-09-08 14:22:40 UTC

He needs some venting

2018-09-08 14:22:44 UTC

Nah Musk smoked the big weed he's cool again now

2018-09-08 14:22:49 UTC

I think he needs to hire someone to take care of Tesla for him like he did with SpaceX and just take a break

2018-09-08 14:22:55 UTC

The BIG weed

2018-09-08 14:23:42 UTC

Yeah musk needs to hire a series of groups for management and then go and play space man elsewhere

2018-09-08 14:24:08 UTC

I admire how dedicated he is but it’s not sustainable

2018-09-08 14:24:17 UTC

I think he would be better funding things that need it badly like biomedical tech

2018-09-08 14:24:27 UTC

He needs to treat his workers way better

2018-09-08 14:24:44 UTC

That's true

2018-09-08 14:24:48 UTC

He abuses his cult of personality to overwork them

2018-09-08 14:24:53 UTC

60 hour intense work weeks

2018-09-08 14:25:01 UTC

I think it boils down to the fact that he expects them to be as single minded to Tesla as he is

2018-09-08 14:25:14 UTC

Which is not a great idea

2018-09-08 14:25:22 UTC

Iirc he literally slept in the factory during the model 3 production hell

2018-09-08 14:25:45 UTC

That's not any way to live

2018-09-08 14:25:53 UTC

That's unhealthy

2018-09-08 14:26:25 UTC

We’re basically watching the fallout from living like that right now

2018-09-08 14:26:58 UTC

I reckon he uses a lot of stimulants to stay productive that long

2018-09-08 14:27:15 UTC

Might explain his behaviour too

2018-09-08 14:27:35 UTC

I feel really bad for the guy

2018-09-08 14:27:38 UTC

He’s had some really rough marriages

2018-09-08 14:27:48 UTC

Apparently he lost a kid and didn’t take it very well

2018-09-08 14:28:46 UTC

I wouldn't say I feel bad for him, (apart from the kid thing of course) but I do hope he gets out of this weird place.

2018-09-08 14:29:33 UTC

After going through all that, doubling down on your work doesn’t really seem unreasonable idk

2018-09-08 14:31:35 UTC

He’s done all the heavy lifting with Tesla and SpaceX, he just needs to take a step back from it all

2018-09-08 14:34:19 UTC

He needs to treat his workers better

2018-09-08 14:34:35 UTC

And maybe apologise for calling the person who saved the kids a pedo

2018-09-08 14:35:07 UTC

Instead of doubling down on it 😂

2018-09-08 14:35:19 UTC

Apparently the guy has lawyered up though so that’s good to hear

2018-09-08 14:36:24 UTC

Should be an open and shut case

2018-09-08 14:40:22 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU 3 first mins ...if you have the stomach for it only.

2018-09-08 14:40:46 UTC

Oh dang I guess abortion is destroyed now

2018-09-08 14:41:10 UTC

Too bad it's legal in most of the civilised world

2018-09-08 14:41:14 UTC

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-09-08 14:41:41 UTC

I’m low on data can I get a tldr?

2018-09-08 14:41:43 UTC

No Gold, it's destroyed, gone, kaput.

No more boar shins

2018-09-08 14:48:29 UTC
2018-09-08 14:50:18 UTC

I'd also like a tldr

2018-09-08 14:51:53 UTC

Cause I'm watching Dave Chappelle clips and don't really want to watch anything with a trigger warning

2018-09-08 14:55:36 UTC

Take one for the team nat

2018-09-08 15:06:43 UTC

Tldr:

Story from a Gyno, describing the process of a 22 week abortion. Uses the word baby instead of fetus.

Tells another story about how his 6 year old daughter died, he then performed an abortion and found he couldn't it anymore. He saw someone's son or daughter instead of the fetus.

2018-09-08 15:07:27 UTC

Oh dear

2018-09-08 15:09:20 UTC

Overall, not really presenting any facts for my big logical brain to eat up, but the story was interesting and kinda moving. Still heavily baised. Not really presenting an argument beyond the emotive.

I thought, well that sucks and I'm sorry. But you've just said a non medical personal opinion wrapped in a sad story.

2018-09-08 15:09:53 UTC

Also not as good as Dave Chappelle

2018-09-08 15:10:16 UTC

Yeah it’s a perfectly valid reason for him not to perform them

2018-09-08 15:10:24 UTC

Nothing about outright banning it though

2018-09-08 15:11:53 UTC

I mean if that was intergrated with some hard facts it'd work for me and might be convincing, but the lack of that is obvious

2018-09-08 15:13:10 UTC

It's like 60% of the way to being a good argument

2018-09-08 15:14:16 UTC

But that's mainly because I prefer stories to hard facts alone

2018-09-08 15:55:40 UTC

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS @xXPuppyLoverXx Definitely a valid argument to abortions in the later stages of pregnancy. How horrible. 😢

2018-09-08 15:56:52 UTC

At this stage, it should be because the mothers life is at risk.

2018-09-08 15:57:14 UTC

Only!!!

2018-09-08 16:01:19 UTC

Isn’t it already banned in the late stages pretty much anywhere anyway?

2018-09-08 16:01:45 UTC

Yep

2018-09-08 16:01:52 UTC

🤔

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