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@Samwise look at all these ppl you think are so bad https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1084110947856367616
@Samwise What is this about?
https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/stop-white-genocide-in-sa-17696161
I watched some south Africa born yter who talked about all the racial problems but it was like...in the 80s
You guys know whats better that a good guy with a gun?
A good guy with a gun, and a bad guy ***without*** a gun.
Maybe we should take all the good guys with guns and put them on standby
And have some kind of phone number that you can call to get them to come help you
i was pinged
why
Only fined $3000...
https://www.rt.com/usa/448680-surgeon-kidney-tumor-mistake/
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Government endorsed pedophilia ๐ง
https://nworeport.me/2019/01/13/state-dept-approved-8482-child-bride-requests/
drifter i dont think anyone pinged from here. ive check the logs and i dont see any deleted msgs or @mentios being deleted
could have been from days ago i guess if you didnt check your pings
What is Sam?
But Trump even tweeted about it in August.
Sam...Iโm not pissed off. But obviously you are.
Whomst
Shoo
If all thaf white genocide stuff is fake...then please post some articles that are truth. They are welcome here.
It's memespeak yah commie
hey
Can we get at least a reputable news source rather than the guy who openly tweets and threatens nations with nuclear missiles pls
sam i dont believe the fake news media
@Samwise careful
triggered much sam?
Same, I too don't believe trump
trump isnt the media
Right, he is worse.
if trump says something then the media will do whatever they can to discredit him, including covering up farmers being killed
no the media is worse
you guys are young and have a lot to learn about the world
Oh yeah I know media makes him look a bit more stupid than he is but that doesn't make him any better
Sam is the South African version of a true libtard.
it doesnt matter if looks stupid, it matters if he is right
Lol
He didn't even cite any sources for that claim and I'd trust a South African while talking about South Africa rather than a political figure.
you believe the south african data?
Just like if trust an avg American citizen rather than a political figure.
People who live in the country know more than a politician
when?
They are out of touch shitheads who work for their benefit rather than the public, discredits them entirely.
when did i call you a name sam?
are you mental?
@Satan Whatโs your take on the Paris riots?
Let me guess. Itโs just fake news.
attacks on farms in south africa are a crime problem
pretend it has nothing to do with skin color
go ahead
Everyone knows the crime in South Africa is one of the worst in the world.
you are just trying to live your liberal utopian fantasy
if you trust the south african governments then your head needs to be examined
if you trust any government
please see a doctor
Acting like sam denied crime is a problem .
He openly stated there are riots
Please do not pretend to know about regarding a crime rather than someone who *lives there*.
The one trusting the media blindly is you
@The Gwench no take, not informed enough
โMurder statistics tend to be accurate,โ AfriForumโs Ian Cameron told Daily Maverick on Wednesday. โIt looks accurate.โ
if you believe these statements i feel sorry for you
Oh look, trusting media.
Sam is also very biased. That was obvious in his emotional reaction to my posts.
i dont trust the media
sam said im an idiot and then said i called him names
does this prove he is in denial?
Sam is in cog dis
oh he left
triggered
That he insulted you?
Nah too bad just means he is rude, doesn't discredit his point.
no that he tried to lie and said im insulting him right after he was the one that did it
Still you are the one who prefers words of a politician over twitter than a an ordinary citizen like yourself
its weird
there is twitter posts from ordinary people i think
Trump is not your avg citizen with a twiter.
I'd expect you out of all people to not believe the govt so blindly but oh well
Anyway I gotta run
Iโm going by these articles...not Ttumpโs tweet.
https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/stop-white-genocide-in-sa-17696161
no idea dude, no first hand experience
there are news sources claiming otherwise but how do you decide who to trust?
matters like this are tricky especially if you aren't a local
obviously shit is going on
damn almost like no one in denying the crime is bad in there
but how do you trust specifics and reasons? news channels?
heh
you dont think they are killing people because of their race?
i dont know
you have to have dicernment
look at what both sides says. look at who is credible
how am I going to trust media when it gives me conflicting news?
you have to discern the info
how do you do that?
i dont know enough south africans for that
keep looking and reasearching till you can come to a conclusion
>research
thats impossible for it to be unbiased, every news we get of another nation is biased
im getting info from both sides
or if by research you mean looking at more news articles then its funny
the info that says their is a problem seems more credible
what problem? crime yeah
the info saying there is no problem, basically says trust the south african murder rate numbers
thats all they say
its like they are parroting a single talking point
which is a red flag
all the mainstream media parroting the same thing
i have not seen any stats from you ..
im watching a video and they are saying people are not only killed but tortured
this guys mother was tortured
could be fake sure
its like you refuse to implement thinking
thinking?
mainstream media is usually biased
but how tf am i supposed to trust your video on it
i think its irresponsible to not look at it and make some kind of educated guess on whats happening
I prefer to not choose a forced side
thats what america said during WW 2
?gg?
history tells us if you dont choose a side, the problem will get worse
๐ im not a significant figure in politics that my action or inaction plays a role in it
i dont really believe all history either but its the morally right thing to do is research and investigate and know what is happening
i think today we can do more than we think
problem is we get censored
shadowbanned
banned
how exactly do you """Research""" when you have conflicting articles from both sides and no real "stats"
discernment
let me explain
you have one side saying
"everything is fine, the south african murder rate on white farmers is low"
thats a retarded statement
not choosing a side doesnt give you a conclusion like that
then you have another side saying there is many people being killed and telling real stories with dates and names
why would governments be so worried about it
damn almost like both are conflicting and you have no way of verifying who is lying
you do have a way
okay, how do you decide
when the mainstream media parrots the same thing over and over you can bet your ass something is wrong
bias, nice
mainstream parrots say the same thing over and over
alternate news articles too say the same thing
there is many black people that are on camera on record saying there is a problem
in africa
z, use your brain
no one is denying there is a problem with crime
crime is a huge problem there, they have rallies saying they will take the farms
use. your. brain.
i am
ive obviously watched more than you, read more than you
and you decide to trust a media just because they arent mainstream
there is evidence that attacks are driven by greed on white farmers
let me get this through you, no one is denying there is a crime problem in SA
i dont choose a side on the reason because sources are biased
murders who have been caught say they have been influenced by politics
show me?
just watch some stuff about it. or stay ignorant.
you are biased
you will trust anything that isnt mainstream just because it isnt mainstream so must be true
lots of communist movements there
take the land and redistribute it
??
they are teaching people to steal
yeah i dont trust your words
ok
i dont care
good
lol
you neither live there or have any first hand experience, good luck trusting """alternate news sources"
watch the video i posted. its probabaly not even a bad one
nah news
ok what news
>abc news
no thanks i dont trust news
must be staged, who knows?
so you are theorizing they are staging the politics in south africa and its all fake. there is no movement to reappropriate land?
everything i see is fake?
no, i dont know whats going on in SA and prefer not to trust news
this isnt news
its a documentary
thats the camera
v.v
you arent this dense
ok so you pretend nothing happens while people might be dying
its almost like you dont understand the meaning of neutral
i hope you are never in this type of situation and people just ignore your prblems
saying "i dont know whats happening" is not same as "nothing is happening"
i udnerstand neutral
its wreckless
no you dont, i never said nothing is happening and no one is being affected
if you saw someone beating your mother would you stay neutral?
if someone said i want to steal your land, do you stay neutral?
are you actually dumb?
are you?
my action or inaction regarding a country's affairs will not benefit or cause them harm
I play no role
then you are not worth talking to about it
why waste my time?
i dont know? you brought it up and forced me into "choose a side or you're a bad person"
no i didnt
i dont cfare what you do
i dont know your reasoning for doing what you do
yeah
"wOuLd yOu iGnOrE iF iT wAs hApPEnInG To yOuR fAmIlY"
almost like in this case my action or inaction would have a direct effect on the person
maybe you are a scared of being right, or scared of being wrong
so staying neutral would harm them
it could help them
exactly my point
not being neutral
in this case it plays no fucking role so why would i take a stance?
i dunno, im done with it
on to other things
if they are being affected they have my symapathy but it plays no role i dont understand this hunger for choosing a side when your involvement plays no role
people just enjoy being involved in conflicts
im not choosing a side
sure ๐
okay then cool, welcome to the fence
im just looking at it and making a decsion what is most likely
i see, neutral
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satan you act like im blindly choosing a side
i never said im neutral
ive come to the conclusion that it is possible there is farmers being murdered for their land in south africa and the mainstream media likely isnt telling us the truth. the main searches and main news articles probably are bias
i think the more people that talk about and expose this type of story. the soon we will get more answers
instead people just google white genocide in south africa then see the media sputing garbage like the murder rate of white farmers is low but crime is high, then they come to the conslusion everything is fine somehow in south africa. its weird
you should watch some videos then, there is many south africans on record saying there is a problem.
Edgy
@Citizen Z it's funny you keep parroting the same thing despite me saying "i agree there's a problem"
I was only pointing out the fact that anything mainstream media reports is immediately dismissed but anything the alternate source produces is deemed credible. It's like you have a personal bias.
Both Sam and I acknowledge the riots regarding farm lands so I have no idea what you want to gain by parroting it over and over.
White people need to leave the black country
Soldz please take your racism elsewhere
Not racist
SA is multicultural and many white folks are natives
Meeeeh
Karma
??
๐ man people like soldz really reinforce it don't they
Enforce what?
The racial divide
O
Wdym
Come to think of it, Im not surprised
I like white people
Just racist ones
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