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No, I don't... that's exactly the opposite

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@Credibly Charted no, that's how it works on a flat earth

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LOGICAL FALLACY: AD HOMINEM: https://imgur.com/qozWard

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they can't comprehend the sheer massiveness of all that logic

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@a fucking egg I have now come out as gay because of JK Rowling

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You are trying to make the sun the same as a candle which isn't even the slightest

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The sun is similar to a candle moving about the floor of a large room. @Credibly Charted

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i always thought dumbledore was gay

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but everything else is crap

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I don't think you understand what you are actually trying to explain here or I don't understand

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@elle I can't believe JK was hiding that epic twist

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@Credibly Charted you don't understand.

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I wanted to buy a funko pop with dumbledore only to write GAY on his forehead

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This is simple

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The room [the universe I assume?] and a candle [the sun]

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Is there a book on logical fallacies

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how is it that i understand after hearing it just once

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i cant believe jk wants to spoil a good thing

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The room, the flat earth. @Credibly Charted

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This is a very chill chat

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And you are trying to say that the candle wouldn't light up the whole earth even though light goes in every direction

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The candle, the sun

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@Hamburger Guy theres a nice website about it "yourlogicalfallacyis.com" or something, with nice write ups on all of them

2019-04-13 20:27:47 UTC

@Credibly Charted Light doesn't travel infinitely far

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But I've seen space stations and they say the earth is round?

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@Red Pillcan you dm me

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t h i c c

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How is this so difficult to understand?

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@Credibly Charted always start your arguments by clarifying your opponent's position ei with questions

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Earth is best anime girl

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is thicc a banned word

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"Do you believe the sun is a spotlight?"

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Even if you don't believe a flat earth, this is an extremely simple concept.

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flat earth is best anime girl

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They're on a different planet from where we are

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I understand what he is saying, but he doesn't understand what he is speaking of @Hamburger Guy

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@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 I am uneducated, please teach me

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They live on a spinning globe

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no wonder none of this makes much sense to them

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@Credibly Charted I do, actually.

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The sun is floating a top the earth going around... is that what you believe?

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If not then I don't know where you stand

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You're trying to use globe earth attributes to a flat earth and that is where you are in error. @Credibly Charted

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A diagram would be helpful

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I'll show an example, but it's not meant to reflect reality. Merely show a concept.

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Yes, the sun traverses in a cycle around the flat earth and the cycles differ with seasons something like that

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Can't blame you on that I mean look at the heliocentric lol

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Globe attributes?

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I'll wait for this example

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Okay , well maybe try use your imagination while you got this spare time

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No need

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Just need to wait for this example

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save the bees!

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Ok, I don't believe the flat earth to look exactly like this, and I couldn't pull a gif for some reason, but here you go.

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how do we save them??

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Rough example

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And how is this not exact?

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Because this assumes we know of all lands

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how would this even work?

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I don't believe the earth to be so small

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This is exactly what I was talking about

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they've made it ever so small haven't they

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@Dragon the Redcoat Think candle. It's not exactly a candle and has much more wonders about it, but similar in concept.

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@Credibly Charted So You assume the sun to illuminate the entire earth at once?

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but imagine shining a light on a plate

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the light would carry

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I remember someone referring to the sun as not an actual object just light being emitted from a point

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unless held right up

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@Dragon the Redcoat You're assuming

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but thats not the case

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no im not

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Yes you are

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think about it

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which year was the Antartic treaty made

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I just don't know what to say

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this is the wrong chat

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Start with that

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Considering it's size the sun would light up everything

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yes or no to what?

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FLAT EARTH CAR GLOBE VS CAR FLAT: https://imgur.com/a/w68mzK8

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@Hamburger Guy It's not as big as you think or i would agree

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Actually never mind even if it was as small as you explained it

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Just look at stars

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Do you assume the sun to light the entire earth or not? Yes or no? @Credibly Charted

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You can see them no matter how far away they are

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yes it's so tiny in comparison to the earth

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furry friends

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well if the eath was flat it would light up the entire planet.

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@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 of course not, because about half the earth is on the other side of the globe

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because of the way it would shine

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@Hamburger Guy We can't know what stars are so that's also an assumption.

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like when the sun is setting

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If the sun is a candle and the earth is the room and the candle is in the middle [from the thing you posted] and candles shine in every direction it would at least cover some of the other part

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wouldnt it just luminate the other side of the planet?

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How is the sun a candle?

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@Credibly Charted It's not in the middle

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Where do you get that?

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It is Mad Philosopher's example @Dragon the Redcoat

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its so hard to explain

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That is what I am understanding from your picture

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@Credibly Charted Where do you see a sun in the middle of the map?

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this wouldnt work

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i want vc

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@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 so you have concepts and fancy names... but where are the calculations? How can you be sure the sun is so small?

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Due to where it is shining

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I don't understand how you can be so deliberately ignorant to this.

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they have pictures thats the problem

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lol is it seriously harder to explain than the Globe model?

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we arent ignorant

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of the sun and how it lights up our earth

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@Credibly Charted That example doesn't have a sun in the middle.

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I just don't understand how this would work at all, you clearly know how light actually works

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Did you crunch the numbers?

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First prove Earth is a planet

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you are ignorant towards thousands of years of mathematics

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mad philosopher

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cant type

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The sun being in any place would still give a good potion of the earth light [not to even mention burning it]

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@Human Sheeple we did, but you guys are challenging it. Now it's your turn to show us why.

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@Hamburger Guy May I see your measurement please

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I was referring to the size of the sun, but we have all you need

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Just wait a moment

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@Hamburger Guy May I see your measurement of the Sun please

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@Hamburger Guy who's 'we'

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For the record, This is why farther things seem smaller.


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hold on a min

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@carlito Missed me bro

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I'm going to get some drink

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I will be back in a short period

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Sheeple I know that you know what I am about to show you but because you asked I will show you anyway

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@Credibly Charted So you admit that you presume how a sun would work on a flat earth. You presume a sun would be too large, too powerful, and too close or far away to work.

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I am a nazi

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and a tissue

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You presume it would scorch the earth because you presume its power

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I wipe hitlers arse

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no pls

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@Hamburger Guy It's not that stupid sticks and shadows fallacy network?

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ill get segenz on u

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You presume it would illuminate the entire earth because you presume light travels infinitely far.

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Ahoy spongeboy me bob I’ve overdosed on ketamine and I’m going to die argargargarg

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Their entire theory is based on presumptions so shouldn't surprise

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which theory

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hello @Vbot0000

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Missed me

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the theory that explains the way the sun works in the model you subscribe to that one

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the theory is the earth is round

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look at this

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Not interested in your fantasy pseudoscience religion

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I still have no idea what pseudoscience is

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isis isis baby

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mess with me i cant so gentle

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@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 I think you know how light works alright? And the sun [depending on the distance] would light up a certain part of the earth small or large [and depending on the size]

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what in gods name is pseudoscience

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you just called the entire work of millions of people pseudoscience

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Aside from that you'd need to line things up with how they actually work like I mentioned earlier about how Antarctica has sunlight for a long duration throughout the year

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the science we forced to evolved

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and it took thousands of years to do so

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That can be accounted for by the angle of elevation by the sun

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may i ask .. do you question the medical industry or also take them at face value? @Dragon the Redcoat

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The 24 hour sun the angle is very low

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انا أحب isi

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im not really interested in medical stuff

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اعتقد ان الأرض مستديرة لا الزنوج المسطحة

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physics is more up my alley

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@Human Sheeple And by that you mean what exactly?

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FLAT EARTH SINE WAVE:https://imgur.com/a/F4QkH83

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Stop showing us that pls

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r cool

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Alright, @iiGreen_Dinoii has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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well, maybe start by checking out the medical industry because that's a less easier one to debunk.. then you can understand better how it is they can misinform about 'big things' on a big scale

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the second gif is of the midnight sun

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I am balck

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Alright, @iiGreen_Dinoii has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @iiGreen_Dinoii has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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that pattern you showed

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it is in the arctic

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I learned it in german

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sorry i dont know the name in english

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even though im british

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polar something

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where the days dont stop

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or they go for 24 hours

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Not much of a simple solution to it

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that is proving that the earth is round

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because the earth isnt straight

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sup cunts

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The person we were speaking with clearly knows how light works at least to a certain degree

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it has more of an angle

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Or that the sun gets closer to the north pole

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@Human Sheeple That demonstration uses a solid atmosphere

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The earth is a octagonal prism

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hey iggers

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We live in a gaseous atmosphere obviously

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when the earth is a specific location

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and the top side of the earth looks at the sun

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the days last 24 hours

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wassup иiggers

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it literally proves the earth is round

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found a quick video

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Sorry that I disappeared, I meant to say the Cavendish Experiment

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thats great evidence tbh

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@Dragon the Redcoat no it proves you are unable to tell the difference between a cartoon and reality

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it explains it pretty well

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It was used to find the gravitational constant, although more accurate measures are used today.

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it makes sense

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here is the wiki article

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You can do this at home, and you should.

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Why am I even here

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supports my claims

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