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No, I don't... that's exactly the opposite
@Credibly Charted no, that's how it works on a flat earth
they can't comprehend the sheer massiveness of all that logic
LOGICAL FALLACY: SHIFTING THE GOALPOSTS: https://imgur.com/c6GmRmU
You are trying to make the sun the same as a candle which isn't even the slightest
The sun is similar to a candle moving about the floor of a large room. @Credibly Charted
i always thought dumbledore was gay
but everything else is crap
I don't think you understand what you are actually trying to explain here or I don't understand
I wanted to buy a funko pop with dumbledore only to write GAY on his forehead
This is simple
The room [the universe I assume?] and a candle [the sun]
Is there a book on logical fallacies
how is it that i understand after hearing it just once
i cant believe jk wants to spoil a good thing
This is a very chill chat
And you are trying to say that the candle wouldn't light up the whole earth even though light goes in every direction
The candle, the sun
But I've seen space stations and they say the earth is round?
t h i c c
How is this so difficult to understand?
@Credibly Charted always start your arguments by clarifying your opponent's position ei with questions
Earth is best anime girl
is thicc a banned word
"Do you believe the sun is a spotlight?"
Even if you don't believe a flat earth, this is an extremely simple concept.
flat earth is best anime girl
They're on a different planet from where we are
I understand what he is saying, but he doesn't understand what he is speaking of @Hamburger Guy
They live on a spinning globe
no wonder none of this makes much sense to them
The sun is floating a top the earth going around... is that what you believe?
If not then I don't know where you stand
You're trying to use globe earth attributes to a flat earth and that is where you are in error. @Credibly Charted
A diagram would be helpful
I'll show an example, but it's not meant to reflect reality. Merely show a concept.
Yes, the sun traverses in a cycle around the flat earth and the cycles differ with seasons something like that
Can't blame you on that I mean look at the heliocentric lol
I'll wait for this example
Okay , well maybe try use your imagination while you got this spare time
Just need to wait for this example
save the bees!
Ok, I don't believe the flat earth to look exactly like this, and I couldn't pull a gif for some reason, but here you go.
how do we save them??
And how is this not exact?
Because this assumes we know of all lands
how would this even work?
I don't believe the earth to be so small
This is exactly what I was talking about
they've made it ever so small haven't they
@Dragon the Redcoat Think candle. It's not exactly a candle and has much more wonders about it, but similar in concept.
@Credibly Charted So You assume the sun to illuminate the entire earth at once?
but imagine shining a light on a plate
the light would carry
I remember someone referring to the sun as not an actual object just light being emitted from a point
unless held right up
but thats not the case
no im not
Yes you are
think about it
which year was the Antartic treaty made
I just don't know what to say
this is the wrong chat
Start with that
Considering it's size the sun would light up everything
yes or no to what?
@Hamburger Guy It's not as big as you think or i would agree
Actually never mind even if it was as small as you explained it
Just look at stars
Do you assume the sun to light the entire earth or not? Yes or no? @Credibly Charted
You can see them no matter how far away they are
yes it's so tiny in comparison to the earth
well if the eath was flat it would light up the entire planet.
@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 of course not, because about half the earth is on the other side of the globe
because of the way it would shine
@Hamburger Guy We can't know what stars are so that's also an assumption.
like when the sun is setting
If the sun is a candle and the earth is the room and the candle is in the middle [from the thing you posted] and candles shine in every direction it would at least cover some of the other part
wouldnt it just luminate the other side of the planet?
How is the sun a candle?
Where do you get that?
its so hard to explain
That is what I am understanding from your picture
@Credibly Charted Where do you see a sun in the middle of the map?
this wouldnt work
i want vc
@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 so you have concepts and fancy names... but where are the calculations? How can you be sure the sun is so small?
Due to where it is shining
I don't understand how you can be so deliberately ignorant to this.
they have pictures thats the problem
lol is it seriously harder to explain than the Globe model?
we arent ignorant
of the sun and how it lights up our earth
@Credibly Charted That example doesn't have a sun in the middle.
I just don't understand how this would work at all, you clearly know how light actually works
Did you crunch the numbers?
First prove Earth is a planet
you are ignorant towards thousands of years of mathematics
The sun being in any place would still give a good potion of the earth light [not to even mention burning it]
@Human Sheeple we did, but you guys are challenging it. Now it's your turn to show us why.
I was referring to the size of the sun, but we have all you need
Just wait a moment
For the record, This is why farther things seem smaller.
hold on a min
I'm going to get some drink
I will be back in a short period
Sheeple I know that you know what I am about to show you but because you asked I will show you anyway
@Credibly Charted So you admit that you presume how a sun would work on a flat earth. You presume a sun would be too large, too powerful, and too close or far away to work.
I am a nazi
and a tissue
You presume it would scorch the earth because you presume its power
I wipe hitlers arse
@Hamburger Guy It's not that stupid sticks and shadows fallacy network?
ill get segenz on u
You presume it would illuminate the entire earth because you presume light travels infinitely far.
Ahoy spongeboy me bob I’ve overdosed on ketamine and I’m going to die argargargarg
Their entire theory is based on presumptions so shouldn't surprise
the theory that explains the way the sun works in the model you subscribe to that one
the theory is the earth is round
look at this
Not interested in your fantasy pseudoscience religion
I still have no idea what pseudoscience is
isis isis baby
mess with me i cant so gentle
@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 I think you know how light works alright? And the sun [depending on the distance] would light up a certain part of the earth small or large [and depending on the size]
what in gods name is pseudoscience
you just called the entire work of millions of people pseudoscience
Aside from that you'd need to line things up with how they actually work like I mentioned earlier about how Antarctica has sunlight for a long duration throughout the year
the science we forced to evolved
and it took thousands of years to do so
That can be accounted for by the angle of elevation by the sun
may i ask .. do you question the medical industry or also take them at face value? @Dragon the Redcoat
The 24 hour sun the angle is very low
انا أحب isi
im not really interested in medical stuff
اعتقد ان الأرض مستديرة لا الزنوج المسطحة
physics is more up my alley
Stop showing us that pls
well, maybe start by checking out the medical industry because that's a less easier one to debunk.. then you can understand better how it is they can misinform about 'big things' on a big scale
the second gif is of the midnight sun
I am balck
that pattern you showed
it is in the arctic
I learned it in german
sorry i dont know the name in english
even though im british
where the days dont stop
or they go for 24 hours
Not much of a simple solution to it
that is proving that the earth is round
because the earth isnt straight
The person we were speaking with clearly knows how light works at least to a certain degree
it has more of an angle
Or that the sun gets closer to the north pole
The earth is a octagonal prism
We live in a gaseous atmosphere obviously
when the earth is a specific location
and the top side of the earth looks at the sun
the days last 24 hours
it literally proves the earth is round
found a quick video
Sorry that I disappeared, I meant to say the Cavendish Experiment
thats great evidence tbh
@Dragon the Redcoat no it proves you are unable to tell the difference between a cartoon and reality
it explains it pretty well
It was used to find the gravitational constant, although more accurate measures are used today.
it makes sense
here is the wiki article
You can do this at home, and you should.
Why am I even here
supports my claims