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Like u wonโt be homeless, but your brain.. itโs not workng
So the society is failing. And that must be good. So, our goal is to continue to show the people how unstable it is.
Choices are great, but if your society is stable, whoโs to start looking at other choices?
We have to start proving there is another way to live without waiting to get power.
We have to show people its possible to have real unity and belonging.
Life Reform now.
True
Making our presence, and showing that alternative, does a great deal in showing that the system is failing
Agreed
Life Reform: clean food, clean minds, clean homes. Return to nature. Live in community not isolation. Reject materialism. Form craftsman brotherhoods to return joy to labor. Make tradition ritual and beauty central to living. We dont have to wait on anyone to start doing this.
@Perihelion - CA no no no, you see GDP is the best it's ever been people just celebrate how great their lives are now by taking hard drugs and killing themselves
Oh yeah ๐ค
Ketamine use only adds to GDP which just stimulates the economy more. Ideally wed have an economy based entirely on sedatives and psychotherapy.
and day trading
But seriously we cant wait for some orange or yellow savior. We need to prove our way of life works now.
Orange man bad
Commander in Cheeto more like it
Lol Mr Allensapp
Using code ALLSUP in Vikings to own the libs
Who else is skeptical of 5G em supersaturation plan?
It seems like it was so obvious a lot of people online who followed CPAC had the Orintian window shift to AIPAC on the subject.
That or the algorithm on YT got be put into a echo chamber
Has any one else felt the same?
Web algorithms heavily favor echochambering
I've seen a lot of Anti-semite rhetoric lately in mainstream right circles, and yeah web algorthims are always /our algorithms/
You gotta go join some normie facebook groups to get a feel for middle conservatives
Echochambering isnt necesarrily good for us
Gives us a false sense of impact
I have found most Trump supporters are pretty clueless. It's pretty depressing talking to them.
The whitepill there is plenty of followers waiting for strong leaders
The blackpill is youd have to remove their tv
Enjoy your fish Catholic bois
Iโm enjoying some nice chicken nuggets
Protgang assemble
Lol
As long as they come here legally amirite @Dale Adams
@StevePines -WA Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite!
The American-Israel PAC has nothing to do with the relationship between America and Israel, implying anything different is anti semitic, also questioning our undying support of Israel is anti-Semitic
Lol this new R Kelly interview is pure redpill
He cant even dindunuffin correctly
So I have been working on a political theory on effective long term ways to influence groups to become more left or right.
I argue that an effective way to change the Overton window naturally and organically is to bring up problems that would be somewhere between Conservative and Dissident right... I don't have a graph made yet, but if the dissident right were to push promote media and questions that is one step more right to regular Conservatives, and two steps behind Dissident rightists, then we have an organic chain of window shifting.
Good thought
I think leftists did this really well in pushing envelope without being too much outside it
I might add the private and public envelopes are different
So you might also have a level of points to address to influencers in private vs push in public
I had an idea all typed out a while back. The idea is that we're a fighting a non violent civil. And so applies this gruellia tatics to activism. Obviously I am not talking about fighting so what I mean? The whole goal would be make things that would be wholly offensive to the left but be accepted by boomers. Progration would be by boomers or within boo.er public spaces with intent of a leftist being trigger and attacking a clueless boomer for our views. Thus radicalizing them.
This article on somalis turning feral is 60% cope on irish gang violence.
Also
>omg police must intervene
>omg police brutality and systematic racism
http://archive.is/pCcAc
I might have to see if I do have it still because the original had about 15 citations
Insurgency analogy is strong and i think we can learn from it
Thank you
It's hard to do, we tried implementing it not poor results but that was do to lack of numbers and experience.
Man I really wish I had that stuff still
Try to see if you can find it. Id like to read it.
Owen Benjamin is the best shit poster
Does anyone know what the US education rank would be if you just looked at white kids/what our ranking was a few decades ago?
@fgtveassassin I think we would be ranked number 2 right behind Norway. Steve Sailer has done a lot of research on this but I don't have the link right now.
I imagine it would be slightly lower than the old U.S education rank, tbh
welp
is there anyone I can talk to about dox risk?
@Jacob call me on here
How we feeling, guys and gals?
๐๐ป
Not going to let them get US down!
You can check if a url has been archived at archive.org
its probably not gonna be all that bad
the mods keep this place pretty clean
I have nothing to hide
I'm very proud to see they had to resort to the slimy tactic of cherrypicking out of the thousands of messages on here to find anything bad. They couldn't just post screenshots of the chat.
Well this is obviously not ideal but I'm in good spirits. Comes with the territory when organizing this many people. Further Evidence as to why our public and private positions need to be the same. Why we need to lose transgressive attitudes and language. And why we keep our private information private.
"PROOF Identity Europa is a White Supreemist Group"
I want to publically apologize for dishonoring the group through my careless language and disregard for the rules.
@Papa Pizzagate Well spoken! One of the main reasons I joined IE! Something to be proud of here. IE refines many of us.
I got hyperlinked in their write up <:sad:366743316475281408>
Always assume anything you say on this chat is going to be posted online.
Someone wisely pointed out that the logs only go back to a given date/time in august which will surely let them pinpoint who it was
I joined in August ๐ฎ
Its definitely not ideal but I'm still in good spirit
You good @Dylan - NY
I don't have anything to hide, can't really dox just knowing my first name (or is it really <:teehee:381917632359563264> )
<:really:453005408064241674>
im all good
i think most of us probably are
What happened to me did not affect me in any tangible way. It's not as scary as it sounds
We're fine. What's actually hurt is IE's reputation
tis but a fleshwound, looks worse than it is
Bad omen
Where do you see these chats? I just wanna see if some of my comments were included in the bad ones
@Perihelion - CA How did you view their write up?
Just ignore it.. weโre solid. our reputation is fine
@Grayson They didn't post screenshots. Wouldn't want people getting any info to counter their propaganda. They just quoted the messages they wanted to quote.
some left-liberal rag called unicorn riot published it, you can find the logs there
looks like splinter news published a hitpiece too
@Distracted Doxxing is different for everyone. Some ppl can be heavily impacted, unfortunately. I am glad to hear it wasn't too bad for you though. I think there are many factors as to the degree it effects ppl.
The only surprising thing about the IE leak is that Jacob only posted 15k messages
lol
@Volkmom google unicorn riot identity evropa chat log
Only 15 K ?!? I would have thought way more than that
Looking at the chat and what they had to say, I reckon our rules worked lmao
Yeah the 15K was pretty wild
The best they had was nibba
Aren't I correct that we should *not* be going to Unicorn Riot's website!!??
only 70 times as well with over 200k message
ty!!
Here is an archived link
Don't go to the real site
Use that
If you want to see
I'll be in general voice chat on and off this late afternoon and early evening as I drive if anybody would like to talk who needs advice with regard to privacy
there's a fireside tonight right?
I should probably change my pfp. Sounds like they can connect them with Twitter accounts
Well yeah especially since you said that
Change it on twitter and wherever else
They'll never find me
I am now both Elon and Alex jones
https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/discord/view/1478518?q=#msg
My love for Nyan can never not come up
We're neo nazi even though they admit we rebuke nazi posting?๐ค
Wait why not go to the real site?
Read the articles, absolutely pathetic. Humorous that this is the bets they got
@bjรถrn Ads
Did they even get traction or coverage
Just because ads?
@DixieBoy76 - KY I only see one non-UR article, hasn't taken off
Ugh
@bjรถrn Basically
Oh
A lot of are Chat look normal
Also Google probably tracks you, so the more you visit it the higher it will appear in other people's searches
I use Brave tho, so not me <:chad:359013583469805568>
I was under the impression they could swipe your IP if you went to their actual site???
Thatโs what I thought to
The real question...who's the infil-traitor?
But Iโm sure normal people look at there site to
Since it was posted in a news article
"news" article
I wonโt go on it again though
same
Heres a thought. Knowing we have an infilitrator makes us all more self concious and raises level of dialogue.
Are Chat logs look totally normal
They said we make fun of autistic people but itโs really them making fun of us for being autistic
Thanks based infilitrator. Truly you are our greatest ally.
There so mean
Why does antifa hate autism?
<:avtism:359037377919844352> <:sad:366743316475281408>
Austism is a badge of honor what are they talking about? <:avtism:359037377919844352> pride
Honestly I donโt know why some guys in here keep disregarding Patrick โs advice and keep using derogatory terms (nibba, etc...) We can And should talk about these issues we care about without ridiculing, making fun of, criticizing, insulting, other races, gays, etc...
@Grayson you are what every IE member should strive for in every aspect tbh
pleasant, positive, jacked, lives on a farm. <:chad:359013583469805568>
@Volkmom they can get your IP but you canโt link an IP to an individual without your ISPโs help
We donโt want minorityโs to feel bad. Just trying to make a european safe space
i look forward to a more positive IE general chat, and will make sure I'm part of that change.
Basically youโd need a warrant
Bigger <:4dchess:439923932062154782> if we only ๐ ๐ post our :l: โญ :g: :s: wont be ๐น ๐
@Guillaume Ok, so there isn't a risk of hacking if I were to click a link to their site? (not that I intend to, just checking)
just use the archived link
Donโt go on it for the sake of Trojans
But itโs unlikely
i also use AdBlock and Ghostery to minimize my footprint.
Itโs normies frequent it
@Asatru Artist - MD Yes I know, I am just trying to make sense of the risk or lack of with going to their site
@Asatru Artist - MD well I appreciate that; I am not perfect and I have to constantly discipline myself and practice self restrain as well but I have never felt comfortable with some of the rhetorics from certain individuals on here. I may feel just as strongly about stuff but I see a lot of making fun of AIDS and stuff like that which I donโt think itโs cool. believe me I often feel very inadequate to be in this organization: almost not worthy of it tbh so Iโm not trying to imply Iโm better
Iโm no web dev but I think the concern is more about not giving them web traffic that will then be used by google to bolster search results, etc.
That make since
You can use ip to get city level location
You know people could look throw it and be like wow IE looks totally normal
Lol
Mods, how about we start by removing the "usinnoodle" emoji?
So they could make a geomap of where we live with our ips
@Perihelion - CA OK That is what I am talking about!! That is not cool!
Unlikely
I *thought* I had heard something about this years ago
I'm in general right now if anybody wants or needs to chat
I think itโs illegal for them to take are IP address information
I don't think these people care about legality.
ip logs of website access is routine
Thatโs blackmail
You cant get name from isp without warrant though
I would not worry about it. Just dont go to their site
@sigruna14 thank you for doing such a good job with moderation. It definitely counted today.
Going to be reprimanding myself for 2017 comments all day.
yes ty @sigruna14 !!
I delete my messages every day or two, so should be able to figure out when server was copied
All the messages they have from me in the directory are probably the most harmless things I have ever said in here
Do not understand
Comments I recently heard or saw โblack babies make me want to pukeโ, or โmix-racing is a form of bestialityโ , โwatching the Oscars gave me AIDSโ would not win the public opinion very favorably if leaked. That should not be how we talk.
delete
Iโm not worried because all of my personal comments have been squeaky clean. ๐งผ
Lol
Who's the MD coordinator
As the famous JBP probably said, โorder your own life before trying to help others.โ
But really, thanks for the mods for keeping the conversations on track. We could use more mods though because thereโs too many people to track on here compared to the number of mods imo.
But please yโall, just follow the rules.
Get rid of General all together that would be my solution !
As we grow bigger and bigger , thereโs no way the Mods can police thousands of people 24/7
Auto deleting rule 12 violations may help
Could be done with bot
Not a lot of direct rule 12 violations though
Still overall more respectful than NYT editorial staff amirite?
@unicornriot Hello! Please get me in the screencap โค
Can we take legal action against Unicorn Riot?
On what grounds?
There's got to be some sort of tort for stealing and releasing private conversations.
We'd have to make all members sign NDA to have grounds
@Der Seeteufel - SD Not sure we want to be stuck paying lawyer's fees for even longer
But even then good luck enforcing it
imo members should have a different colored username depending on how long they have been a member. I know we have *some* variation but more would be better. New members under 6 months one color. Member for one year- another color- member for 2 or 3 years, another color, and so on...
But do we really want to get into that type of classism?
Not sure what advantage that provides
Well. Thanks Dildohead Horse riot, I'm finally famous!
Who all was mentioned in the article itself tho
A few people by username
A few links to some users posts
Thereโs someone in here that has really gone under the radar
Theyโre probably reading all of this right now laughing to themselves
I couldn't make it on my looks, I couldn't do it with my guitar, I couldn't play football, but all I did was read book and now I'm famous.
Does anyone have the time frame of when the screenshots begin and end?
We might be able to pin point who it is by that
General starts August 21st but I'm pretty sure the chat got emptied around that time
Begins with server creation, ends March 1st
I was still new then, about 3 weeks and thought it was something they did every month
I would think the infiltrator would've left by now
Job done, don't stick around to be found out
Has anyone stopped paying their dues or anything around that time?
Not saying youโd know that
But we should look into it
They likely never made a post, always paid dues
1st infiltrator paid dues and went to the conference
God
Last guy who infiltrated never talked either but tbh a lot of people don't talk, its the same 25-30 people I see most days
But didn't get the chat logs
is this leak even a victory for them? nothing particularly sensitive is discussed here and the chat is fairly heavily moderated
General chat only goes back to 2018-8 so weve cleaned up our act a lot since 2017
It goes back to 2017
Nothin awful was leaked but they still have sensitive information
Nothing sensitive was discussed but its a good scare tactic; "We've infiltrated you guys and had no idea
I saw August 17 posts, post Cville when the server was made
The fact they bypassed all of this is a victory though
NOTICE ME UNICORN SENPAI!
No some of the channels go to 2017
They noticed me and it wasnโt even any of my zingers :^(
Different channels go back different amounts
Were they in the skills server or anything
Do any techy people know if what they got could be used to view dm's of individual users?
Wait they have dms?
ALL new members should have to go through an in person vetting.
They have not posted dms. That would give away their guy
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