Not an argument

BUT

let me finish

smirnoff

egative

gamer

epic

anyway

tinker tom is arrogant

When you create a Luger, does that effect the idea of the luger? Do you take away from the idea of the luger, or consume the idea of the luger in any way?

@Tinker Tom yeah it cheapens the brand

>brand

you wouldn't download a luger

👅

😏

if there was the original company producing high quality lugers that rarely jammed vs thousands of companies making lugers of varying quality that often have issues

eventually, people would think that lugers are a bad design because most lugers on the market are cheaply manufactured

Ok, then people would just buy from the good brand

holy shit

That's not how a free market works

>the good brand
hard to tell which one is which when all knockoff lugers can have the exact same branding

because no copyright

nothing is stopping me from selling a burger and saying it's McDonalds

just make your own gun and stop complaining

@Double Negative Do you actually thing that if I owned a gunstore I would be stocking shitty Lugers and get my customers mad at me?

Mia lilith

but you wouldnt know which ones are good and which ones are bad

Yes

all you want is to turn a profit

cuz they all look the same

a lot of people buy guns to collect them

And yes, of course I wouldn't

No information

none at all

it's like with 1911's there a bajillion variations and not all of them are good

@Double Negative ...and?

but at least you can differentiate those 1911s because they dont all have the exact same branding

fake lego bricks still fit on real lego so I don't see the problem 😔

@esports athlete heretic

real lego is the only way to go

I need to go to school

btfo once again

To learn economics?

he retreats

economics

<:dabler:401044511809077249>

all i learned from economics is that a lot of fucking government regulation

while it sounds good

>i need to go to school
please do

tends to be logically incoherent

I've already learned how basic economics works, I advise you all to do the same

and puts a significant strain on the economy

buy low sell high

Nope

bro why dont we have thousands of lookalike knockoffs of a product

Buy high sell low

hey guys

san here

/biz/ taught me that

dropped my phone while listening to asm

then i paniced

hope it broke

theres chinese knockoffs of all kinds of computer hardware

and kicked a plate and a bag of chips off the table

and now the chips are on the floor

😦

Ok namal

@w7 Yeah, and the only reason why newegg doesn't stock them is because they're shitty knockoffs

How does newegg know who's making the real products?

who knows?

tom i thought you were going to school

magic probably

i need to clean my room tomorrow

guys

vc somepoint?

@Tinker Tom because they get them from reliable manufacturers

Exactly

australia looks like its flooded with chinese knockoffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ved84d_6occ

@Shakti can i get my images back its the weekend

Double Negative thinks that a store or marketplace wouldn't know who's making the good products

stacy let me see my kids

>how does newegg know who's making the real products
contracts my dude

What

No what

Negative

What is your thought process

🗿 🗿 🗿

i've been describing it to you for the last past half an hour

lmao

How did you get to contracts

🗿 ⛓ 🗿 ⛓ 🗿 ⛓ 🗿 ⛓ 🗿 ⛓ 🗿 ⛓ 🗿

you would have a contract with the manufacturer

atop

And that doesn't exist in the free market?

🇹🇩 🇦🇩 🇷🇴 <:pepesmug:281041251749462016>

no because there'd be a thousand manufacturers with the same name

and same branding

🖕🏻

Then how would any of them make any money if they couldn't make any contracts to sell stuff?

✋ 😂

They'd all fail, Negative

zoogang

no, the contracts would still go out to whoever, but the contractor wouldn't know which manufacturer is the real one

Nigga

What

what are you guys standing for?

He's right you know

@FAKs tom is an ancap retard who doesnt believe in intellectual property

lol

nice

according to him it's okay to copy a design wholesale because "ideas aren't property"

Like, do you think you just address it to "Intel" and you just have a 2% chance of it going to the right one?

damn i'm surrounded by furfag animal rapists

yeah

@Tinker Tom there's only one intel and they're based in california

there's a lottof em

who have also built up their brand over 20 years

that's spicy hahahahah get it

Huh, it's almost like they built it up by making quality products (not so much lately), and that if a computer store wanted to find Intel and buy some CPUs off them, they would just go to Google and search up

"Intel"

and find the right one

hardware manufacturing works by having the hardware designer contact the manufacturer who is then contacted by the storefronts

but if the manufacturer doesnt give a shit about intellectual property

>call intel
>ask where to buy
>buy

they can take the specs and just produce them

Hey guys like my new nickname?

without caring what the hardware designer thinks

Pretty epic

because lol no copyright

>call one of the hundreds of Intels
>hope it's the right one because none of them are the same company

lots of hardware manufacturers don't have any brand loyalty and sell the same shit rebranded with tons of different shit

^

especially keyboards and mice

they also are based in china

with very lax copyright protection

Anything for a quick buck

yup

what a coincidence

>Intel gets non-disclosure agreement with manufacturer
>contracts them to build CPUs

Oh man

i'm actually using a cheap knockoff mechanical keyboard i got off amazon

that was so hard

instead of a corsair

because they're basically the same

Free market at work

@Tinker Tom EXACTLY

contracts!

contracts

NIGGER WHAT IS YOUR POINT

contracts protect your IP

all of neweggs rosewell or whatevre brand is "knockoffs"

YEAH

CONTRACTS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF A FREE MARKET

YOU'D UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT ECONOMICS

thank you for understanding tom

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now you know why a mutual contract between many companies that protects IP would be beneficial

Ooga booga

"Where the white women at" - Kirk

because it would stop manufacturers (who would need to sign the agreement to do any business with these companies) from just mass producing a knockoff the moment they receive the specs

@Double Negative Yeah, but you don't fucking own the idea. You can make efforts to keep that idea a secret, but if AMD got ahold of Intel's shitty CPU designs from reverse engineering, and then for some reason used a part of it, Intel couldn't do anything

"the idea"
a fully fledged specification sheet for a CPU isnt an "idea"

Ok

Design

Doesn't matter

>if AMD got ahold of Intel's shitty CPU designs from reverse engineering, and then for some reason used a part of it,
i'm pretty sure that's illegal

Call it whatever

Israel has a lot of influence at Intel

@Double Negative It's only illegal in a state regulated economy, I'm saying in a free market

I really doubt they'd let AMD jew them

in a self regulated economy there would be some form of copyright protection that would be almost mandatory to opt into

because nobody wants their unique products being copied

That would suck for Intel

@gays are mentally disable

Perhaps, but it wouldn't be legally enforced

unrelated but remember that AMD GPUs are bad

@Tinker Tom there wouldnt really be much law in ancapistan other than the NAP

.yt Walmart Fresno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B0WNvD4EqU

it would be enforced by the violating company being fined to shit

You might be barred from certain shops if you don't agree to follow the copyright, but if you are able to produce an AMD or Intel CPU for cheap

because they broke the contract

And sell them on the shops that don't follow the copyright

So what's the alternative, hiring militias to defend your designs?

That's a blow for everyone involved in the self-regulated copyright

😂

the manufacturer wouldnt be able to produce the CPUs for cheap if they never got the blueprints

Intel death squads

because the CPU designer would refuse to do business with them in the first place

>reverse engineering

you guys heared of the german right winged death sqads?

Wait

don't say anything

@GGPL yes

If I

Rwds are American nigger killing groups tho

nigger

Some weird copmany owner

hohl

@Tinker Tom enjoy having 1000's of shitty knockoffs

nigger

No that's the Klan

Reverse engineered a product and produced it cheaper than Intel

ima go make some macaroni and cheese

And sold it to a store that didn't follow copyright law

and having no recognizable brands because they cant even release a product without it being copied

Right wing death squads kill commies

Then I will win against Intel competitively

are you still refusing to admit that your argument is trash, tom

they tried to assasinate some party leader

do you like how chinks copy everything and make a fortune off of it?

No but reverse engineering is expensive and usually not worth it

It would be better to create your own design

hippity hoppity hands off my intellectual property

@Tinker Tom yeah and that is stealing Intel's work. Leeching off of others is generally seen as immoral by our society

it straight up wouldnt be profitable to design anything complex because the moment it gets released it would be mass produced by Chang & Co

But contacts, DN!

you just said that these guys wouldnt sign contracts

No

I did not

lol ok

Why sign contracts if there is no state to enforce individuals to respect them?

Private Law enforcement

@Alibaba good point

what's stopping a company from just ignoring all the fines

"oh what private law ahahaaha"

Read my niggas

private copyright law

No

yes tom

Not copyright law

So in other words, intel and amd death squads

No

your socialist bullshit aint flying

not death squads

tom is a commie

he hates freedom

It doesn't matter

tom's ideal society

A free-market will rise through Agorism becoming a necessity

>Company A keeps stealing B's designs
>B sends their militia to annex A's factories
>problem solved

@Tinker Tom

But it wouldn't be seen as stealing by society

tinker tom: the man with no argument

But it is

>by society
so this ancapistan will magically shred all western values of dignity and respect

you literally want china

lmao