faster than the miata he's buying with the sale money xD

seems doubtful

it is faster. he drove the miata already. u sure it's that underpowered? i never looked into the specs

1.3 liter with 45 hp according to youtube guy

wtf

4 cylinder he says

yeah, north american market had a 4 cylinder

I was thinking of the 3 cylinder 1 litre

And I am seeing either 63 or 66 hp

lol

It's basically a side-by-side by today's standards

not exactly a driver's car but it does the job climbing rocky roads on mountains

yes

slow and economical light offroading is its natural element

and tight areas, because it is so small compared to a modern fullsize truck

when i drove it a twig got in the intake somehow past the filter ... idk... but it was idling at 4k and we couldn't figure it out until after i left

heh

reeee

good thing buddy had a motorbike

with more power than his suv

yeah but the bike couldn't take us here like the thicc boy could

It's also really clean looking

technician owned only

kek

I don't imagine parts for it are very expensive, if you can get them locally

probably not

I've actually been thinking about getting a small truck or suv for the winter here, not sure I would go with that specifically though

forester

so hard to find a manual turbo though

hnnnng tho

yeah

I like outbacks and legacies even

you don't have a legacy wagon ?

I had an old one

bruh

>selling cars

ever

ok wow

looked like this

heheh

lil monster

I'd rather have one like this

ofc

i don't really trust any old subaru

but rally lights/rally anything is top tier

yeah

what does that goy think hes doin!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0frCOxkTO2s

this is my car

i'm in the vid

I heard that guy was retiring from doing that

i only started watching him recently so ok

God you look like an awkard autist

i wish it were actually me. i'd gladly look like that if my car were that fun

You can buy a first generation ford focus for pretty cheap

Gen1 Focus Hatchback only tho.
Were the SVTs any good?

Why would you want a non-hatchback Ford Focus?

the svt's are cool. the suspension and getrag transmission is the best part. the engine is whatever. good enough but the duratec 2.3 they put into the sedan ST is better

the perfect focus would be an SVT with the 2.3L swapped in but the interior pre mid-2005 is ugly AF

left to right: pre-facelift, SVT, post-2005

to quote Wikipedia: The SVT also featured a reworked version of the 2.0-liter Zetec engine available in other Focus models. Developed in concert with Cosworth, this engine featured a special aluminum cylinder head with enlarged intake ports, high compression pistons and forged connecting rods, piston oil squirters, solenoid operated variable camshaft timing on the intake cam, dual stage intake manifold, and a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust header. These additions, coupled with an increased 10.2:1 compression ratio, increased power from 130 to 170 horsepower

The ST had a 2.3-litre, 151 hp with a 5 speed rather than the 6 speed from the Mini Cooper S found in the SVT.
Though power was lower than the SVT, acceleration was only slightly lower due to a higher differential ratio. The ST was also packed with stupid heated seats, heated mirrors, leather interior, moonroof, and Audiophile package which made it stoopid heavy at
1242 kg / 2738 lbs. or more idk if that weight includes all the addons. A regular ZX3 weighs 2,551 -2,651lbs.

This nigga knows Focuses

Do the interiors swap in any realistic time frame/cost effectiveness?

never heard of anyone doing an interior swap but some people have done front end conversions to give a pre2005 car a facelift

along with the exterior changes in the facelift there was a change to the front uhhh knuckle or some shit with the suspension. this means that the SVT suspension and aftermarket susppension kits for the pre facelift models will not fit on and mk1.5 (facelifted) model

the rear on the hatches stayed the same though and the euro rear bumper should be mandatory for any zx3 owner

the american bumper on the right is fat and stupid

I agree

stupid crash ratings

https://www.sportscarmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1977-datsun-280z-coupe-front.jpg

focus looks better <:smork:309402628050124801>

Especially with those giant bumpers

yeah she got a pphat ass

oof

make it AWD

yeah that's the thing keeping focus from being a 10/10 pseudo-rallyboyDD

hardly justifiable though

for the same or less price you'd pay for fabrications and install to make an AWD focus you could buy a rally ready fiesta http://m-sportedition.co.uk/

AWD 240z instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQjXsvEhLyQ

@Leaf me alone that sound tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ehf0gdoDE

@🥁 ✋🏻

my Suzuki Samurai buddy bought a Miata

I was looking at one next to me in traffic yesterday, they are so small

Yeah they're tiny

Alright you faggots I am willing to exchange gun info and gun advice for auto info and auto advice.

I want to know good options for utilitarian 4x4s that aren't trucks

By not trucks, do you mean unibody as opposed to body-on frame?

Other good questions would be how large you would like it to be, do you prefer NA/Japanese/European, how fast/fuel efficient you require, and what the initial and ultimate purpose are?

also budget

Ideally about tye size of a Jeep CJ, no preference on place, don't care about it being fast nor efficient, purpose is to have a trusty vehicle I can rely upon for heavy use as an utilitarian vehicle so driving on dirt, stones, small rivers that don't reach door level so I can pack up and go innawoods for shooting and hunting.
Budget would be 3000, 5000, 10000 USD, I want the best options for each price.

@Leaf me alone

v8 4.0L with 182hp and 233 torque. 14mpg average. under $5k

^Land Rovers have been favorites for overland expeditions for a while

price of replacement parts might be an issue in the US

yeah they have their issues too

electrical issues as I recall

yeah that's right. i couldn't remember what it was but yeah. that's the thing people mention

but in that case you just get the most basic version you can, in the best overall condition

for real. if the price range you're looking for @NotATF is really btween 3 and 10k you can get a """perfect""" condition one of these

also worth looking into a toyota landcruiser, any year I believe

the later ones are heavy and bad on gas, but are built like tanks

just searched land rover for sale with lowest miles and found this

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-1998-Land-Rover-Discovery-c7954#listing=203165134

idk shit about toyotas

Here is a good site for people who take their trucks on long off and on road journeys:
https://expeditionportal.com/forum/

Lots of good information on specific models and their suitability offroad, builds, interesting solutions to common problems, etc.

nice

went to a thread and all the picture links are broken. i fukcing hate photobucket or flcker users or whatever. ruins threads

And a more hardcore offroad site: http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.php

yeah, I hate that

oof those are bigboys

Yeah, they have some crazy trucks on there

maybe he should buy my buddy's suzuki samurai <:GWseremePeepoThink:402867838580293643>

bit smaller than a jeep cj, but not that much

it'll suit his needs

pls buy

goes well, climbs mountains

YEAH!

faster than a miata

@NotATF you could be the proud owner of this gun toting machine

i'll have you know it hauls an AR, SKS, and Mosin on a semi-regular basis

shoot out of the tailgate thingy who cares! just buy it!

Be honest now

Is your friend Mark Zuckerberg?

let's just say there's more than one type of lizard in that desert

kek

@Deleted User Now that's something like I had in mind

That short 4x4 is really cool

Also nice nugget, hex receiver?

not mine. but no it doesn't and idk if that's a shame or anything but it's just a nothin' special kinda nagant

if you're located in this desert area i can get you the deal of a lifetime pal

It's certainly small

and good on gas

which also means it can have a very large offroad range, especially with a spare gas can or two

idk how heavy "heavy utilitarian use" is for ATF so idk if the samurai is up for the challenge

but there's always

or a little less heavy

There's always a good old Jeep Cherokee XJ, with the 4L Inline 6 they are considered very reliable , if prone to rust, and both stock and aftermarket parts for them are EVERYWHERE

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Jeep_Cherokee_2-door.jpg

samurai buddy: "

yeah leaf right tho. even if jeep has a problem there are so many used jeeps and parts on the market parts are easy. samurai is good and super easy to work on. but everything is smaller, all driveline and suspension components are tiny and more vulnerable to damage than jeep and oem parts are expensive/difficult to come by these days. aftermarket maintenance stuff (belts, ignition stuff, fuel system) are all super cheap and usually in stock at napa, but it's expensive to get a whole dashboard or instrument cluster or any part that says suzuki on it
also harder to find cheap upgrade stuff, like tailgate/bumper/roof racks, lift springs, bigger axles jeep should be easier.

why ATF not just get CJ if he like it so much <:GWseremePeepoThink:402867838580293643>

Alright fags this were all good options and I'll look into them

Also because the CJ was already an option but I'm wise enough to ask around for other options

If any of you need to know anything about guns holla at me and I'll do my best to answer your gay shit

thanks fam. in that case meet me in <#374058040355454988> to try and convince me the cz-82 is not the best pistol money can buy. and i'm curious to know what you end up deciding one car-wise

Yeah, and how it works out

https://youtu.be/7AZLu45nl5A

https://youtu.be/n2-Dk9BKlX0

Passed this thing today lol

heres why the ford gt is overpriced as dick

but it's the best car in the world

4head

It is tbh

Foreign scum

needs more v8

Oh shit nice

my 1999 gmc suburban can crush all these cars

Does it have a hatch/tailgate, or barn doors?

@Deleted User @Alex Jones @Leaf me alone @Rice I know a guy who can decrypt moon runes and this is what he said about the car

AHAHAHAHAH

@Deleted User

@!Doug The Subway Fugitive http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0NeTwLoFtqE/T5eE3rxH9CI/AAAAAAAAOlg/FRuhduQCNiw/s1600/initial_d_ae86.jpg It's from a show called Initial D

@Leaf me alone i know you nigger

but i know a guy

oic

who is a native speaker

of japanese

and that's what it is

fug off :DDDD

Well, anyone who knew what initial D was, would know it was a tofu delivery car. <:hmpepe:285080453814419456>

heheeh

KANSEI DORIFTO

SHINGO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCpuPE5s3F4

.lsar

...

im still shit colour

.lsar

.lsar

Smh newfags

Dodge Challenger

@Fried AIR TO AIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jjzNsDAOgQ&feature=youtu.be

Pretty much

Vroom vroom

Dump

is it manual?

This is auto not aviation @Fried

Well sorrry

I dont see a channel for that

Still has a damn motor in it

Bite me fat boy

@Fried bring it feggit

Fuckin get me a channel cunt

Probably name it brrt

So i can dump my sweet sweet aircraft display pics

And prob get photo doxxed because reflections

tfw no #landing-craft

don't talk to me or my son ever again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrR8pnMgMiE

<#462201902504083456>

@Capuno

https://youtu.be/m9AACz87SDk

https://youtu.be/mSY9ApgfW9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4OeiMjvtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IocCC1-jeTY

@Leaf me alone

@Scream and leap

nice iti bikes sound great

https://youtu.be/_W0kk5wTgpA

https://youtu.be/3hbkmqbA3Rs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IvQwZZLVU

so cool