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A bit of help required - in his recent debate with the EFF chap, William mentions that a black engineer with 5 years experience out-earns a white engineer with the same. I'm trying to find a source on this to use in another video.
dont have a source but I do have a reason, generally black engineers can demand more (and they do) because they're in massive demand due to BEE.
corporates are hungry for black workers to boost their BEE ratings
@Bird_Goes_Beep. His dad is a engineer. If you look at state owned companies,which are more dominated by black people they employ (BBBEE) and promote them very quick ,hence why so many are in positions they don't belong,my dad worked for eskom he saw this first hand. In the private sector(dominated more by whites) it's different but they still have BEE regulations that force them to employ/promote people of colour,but less than state owned companies i would say.
Ah, damn. I was hoping for a study or citation I could use.
I'm an engineer and within state owned companies this is the truth, white men don't get promoted. So that is why most of us leave the country for better jobs in markets where your skin colour has no influence on your value to a company.
Oh, I'm sure it's true - I have friends and family who have similar anecdotes. I just don't want to say anything in a video that I cannot back up easily.
@Bird_Goes_Beep i believe this kind of study won't even be undertaken by the social 'sciences' researchers for fear of being excommunicated from their research communities...
I'd believe that.
@Bird_Goes_Beepmake your video about BBBEE rather than just the one thing willem said. How it discrimates againsts the minority etc etc.
It's an idea. I'm actually doing an analysis of a debate between Ernst Roets and Andile from the BLF.
Maybe you could contact ECSA (engineering Council of South Africa) maybe they have figures on the amount of members emigrating. Since they also keep track of their member's race maybe that would be insightful. What I can say is that of my Class of graduates (2004) just about all of them including me are working overseas
Yes thats a good idea,they should have data.
That's an excellent idea, thanks.
@Bird_Goes_Beepugh my brain hurts when watching those blf people,there is no intellectual capacity,just a hollow head. I call them #PeaBrains
Oh you are going to love this. A few requests to cover it over the last while since I did the other Roets /BLF debate and this one is even crazier.
Seriously, old Mingey is both terrifying and a lolcow.
On the ECSA members not all graduates register for membership since many of the new graduates emirates promptly after receiving their degree since most of the universities still conform to the Washington accord engineering degrees are recognised in many other countries and they could just as easily apply for professional registration in their new country.
A friend of mine got a bursary from Transnet, with the condition that he work for them for 5 years (I think) after graduation. He will attest to just how much bullshit it is.
Numerous awards, commendations and increased responsibilities but never promoted.
That's why i have my own business. 😉
Many of these companies even don't employ white bursary holders after graduation since there is simply No space for them within their quota. I worked as a engineering university lecturer for 10 years and have seen this happen many Many times
And also many of these bursaries are for 2nd year onwards for 'previously disadvantaged' students since the matric certificate ain't worth the paper it's printed on. So the university's first year of study is used as a kind of pre-screening for bursars
You know what sets up many people for failure is the way matric results are adjusted. I don't know if the public at large knows exactly how it works... But basically if you wrote matric in a historically disadvantaged school and English/afrikaans is not your first or second language and another qualifier I can't remember now you get mahala points on your matric certificate. Like if I remember correctly 8 - 15 percent. So what that means is that universities are allowing people without meeting the entry requirements because of a disadvantage and then at university these people struggle (freaking obviously) and then blaming systemic racism is much easier than admitting maybe you should have studied something else or entered the job market hence the rioting sticking and burning around exam times
~~not to mention public schools already have lower standards~~
So not only do white kids have to deal with a seriously shit public schooling where it was clear as day that teachers are told to teach the kids to pass the test (and no comprehension) and BBBEEE acceptance preference to universities they also had to perform up to 15 percent better just to be measured as equal to their black counterparts
I can go on about the absolute shitstorm that is education in SA for hours upon hours, what I can say is if I had a child in school in SA I would seriously consider private schooling or overseas boarding school. I have seen so many intelligent young folks who have been miserably let down by education systems in SA that it is truly heartbreaking...
But I would also caution not all private/home schooling plans are created equal
@KoueKoffie thats why we have curo schools now popping up everywhere in SA. One of my friends worked with them to design the schools.
All I can say is if you have kids investigate the school they are in make sure they get a proper education, and most important of all educate your own kids at home as well! Provide them with the gift of being enquiring. Buy them an old scrapper motorcycle that they have to fix themselves... Enable them
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My kids will be home educated for sure.
and I will encourage them to do something like plumbing or butchery.
https://youtu.be/gHMR6l66DW4 awesome speech in Australia against defeating Marxist culturalism, holding the criminals banking elites accountable for stealing Australian farms, and for stopping any Muslim migration to Australia
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en so begin dit
@Robzombie I read "Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state" and wondered...
@KoueKoffie wie lange wohnst du schon in München? Das ist eine der schönsten Städte die ich schon gesehen habe. 👌
State did not take the first farm,stupid headline.We need elons pravta to start rating these journalists.
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@KoueKoffie however beautiful Germany is, SA still remains my number 1. It's just so terribly sad that we have all the other shit going on here. My wife and I have been thinking for a while now of moving to Germany (she is from there), but I am in 2 minds... I don't know if it would be easy to adapt, because the culture and people are very different to what I'm used to here.
The rural German people's culture is actually not that different from Afrikaners.
Onverwacht was established in 1886 by President Paul Kruger. During the Second Boer War, local blacks were promised their own land if they helped the Boers in the war, and the promise was kept despite the Boer defeat. The village was also the site of the Battle of Onverwacht, which took place on 4 January 1902.
Today, Onverwacht is home to approximately 100 black Afrikaner families. The local inhabitants have petitioned the government to have their town declared a heritage site.
Lol Malema kry vir jou doos https://twitter.com/kalliekriel/status/1031132494094118912?s=21
@Bird_Goes_Beep looking fwd to your video about BbbEE and the engineering industry. Do us a favour and nail that smartass BLF lady that was on a news interview with Ernst Roets. She is the same one that Lauren Southern interviewed too. Expose her for the racist , biast idiot she is PLEASE
Daniebees ek wil hê hy moet Paulsmoor toe kom dat die nommers hom bietjie kan help met sy exhaust...
Malema nou seker besig om 'n lys te maak van mense om om te koop.
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another muslim terror attack in UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aMVmQyfGaM
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Verander jou fokken van na Kratoa dan
Whats the story behind these images? Quite f’ed up!
Damn this BLF puppet just made my brain hurt
o. janee. stem.
Anyone know if the guy at 1:16 has any sort of online presence? Social media?
Don't hink he has twitter. I don't have Facebook to look him up.
@cµrvy - I left FB almost a year ago but I made a fake acc with no friends so that I can view FB links. I run it from a Protonmaill email acc on a separate Brave browser so that google doesn't get wind on Firefox etc and link me to it.
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@Penkop I've done her before. Zanele? Although you will enjoy today's video I think 😃
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what a condecending dumbass
"In fact, I regard the vast majority of Afrikaners as honourable, hard-working people who make a massive contribution to the country in all walks of life."
In New zealand they use a man as "mother nature".
<@&468389786382761985>s Hake is a Content Creator. Jesse Lee Petersons producer.
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https://twitter.com/reneotto5901/status/1031247993519984640 looks like it is going to be a blue Monday for Mr Otto, see the comments. People are not buying..... goes to show, stop hating the Afrikaaner, not good for business
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Should probably be careful of journos sneaking in and trying to find evidence of @Willem Petzer 's "Far Right extremism"
willem isn't far right though
Willem is actually far left
@MrE911 watch the interview,clive explains it all. He was in the conservative party and they wanted to kill hani to get martial law enacted and get the voters to sway to the conservative party and schedule the elections earlier,they already had a large portion of the vote and defeated the NP in potch in 92 just before the referendum. We were on the brink of a civil war in 93' after that assasination,mandela had to come on the news and "talk" to the black people to not do anything. If chaos and civil war erupted all talks with the anc would have ended and elections would have saw the conservative party winning. The conservative party wanted to protect the white minorities,they knew the NP didn't give two shits. It's a interesting interview,he explains how the NP had talks with the anc back in the late 80's which no one knew about. Everyone should watch it.
Its after that interview that I for first time realized how hard FW and co shafted us.
ek dink dit is tyd om die geveg cyber te vat....dan bring ons News24 en affiliated sites helemal af
Lofty posted it above,it's a 4 part in english
those interviews of derby are very very intriguing, please do yourself a favor and watch them all even if you don't agree with some of his points
Good to have you here.
Thank you for talking about South Africa!
Kweku Adoboli to be deported from UK
The 38-year-old, who caused a $2.3bn trading loss by vastly exceeding his risk limits, has lived in the UK since he was 12 but is a national of Ghana, where he was born and where he lived until he was four years old.
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risk management... never heard of her 😂
Hi I don't have a mic now but listening in
Jerm has a server?
are you guys reading this? hehe
hey was wondering about jerm's server
no idea, sorry.
kk thanks will ask Willem later
is he around?
Just @ him
byebyee for now I will check back later
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Blykbaar n ANC lys. Kan nie confirm nie.
That list speaks about how well a farm is managed...
I was busy troubleshooting an exchange server, but fuck that noise. Thanks for the link 👍
Lets see if we are getting 2080 or 1180
1180 bum bum bum
this stream does not hang so much for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yNbH6TFtfo
"Yeh the twitch.tv stream is solid
Now lets see how it trumps 1080ti's and how butt hurt the people are going to be that JUST bought them.
@KoueKoffie lets watch the farm owned by Senekal. He is a big friend of the ANC. He has a private pump station from the Jozini Dam to irrigate his properties.
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@Shiver leftovers told me I don't need one that good, not sure how to change the parts on that website though.
^ price of a good rifle
Its bullshit that guns are so expensive
a plastic howa is cheap though
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