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Hoping they piss the cops off
lol yeah i remember watching that lol
part II happening now
Unite the Right 2, according to their website, will take place from 5:30-7:30 EST. Should be much fun to watch! I think Simon Roche is supposed to speak.
it's pretty boring so far, finding a good stream that stays up is a problem too
Well, it technically hasn't started yet. I'm sure once it starts getting closer and participants and protesters start arriving, many streams will become available. They're supposed to have a stream, according to their website. I guess we'll see!!!
I have popcorn standing by
Could the list of farms to EWC have been chosen on purpose to fail in the courts in order to "prove" that an amendment of the constitution is "necessary".
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Some are not even farms,one is just a vacant area of 2000sqm(large house)
Some are chosen to be prospected for mining purposes
Sean Gerety :'Even more interesting than Peterson is what this Atlantic article reveals about so-called "higher education." Colleges and universities are not in the education business, they are in the brainwashing business.'
"...Because all of this was happening silently, called down from satellites and poured in through earbuds—and not on campus free-speech zones where it could be monitored, shouted down, and reported to the appropriate authorities—the left was late in realizing what an enormous problem it was becoming for it. It was like the 1960s, when kids were getting radicalized before their parents realized they’d quit glee club. And it was not just college students. Not by a long shot."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAHYhJ2Mjpc Unite the Right 2 beginning to assemble. Get the popcorn ready!!!
thanks, I got bored and wandered off...
@gcain not yet. Police seemed to do a pretty good job. From what it looks like, there are like literally 20 protestors being protected by hundreds of police.
this protest doesn't have enough autistic liberal screeching , 2/10
it's almost too well policed!!! XD
I'm back on twitter beautiful people @rationalgent1
Reading the comments on this video is possibly one of the most frustrating things I have done.....😠
Should I be flattered?
Those of you that want to see English subs on the video @Justin Daines posted above. https://www.facebook.com/southafricanaussie/videos/vb.2056439444639320/2140220572927873/?type=2&theater
"If every time the government intervenes (known as economic interventionism) into the broader economy there is an eventual wave of resulting economic pain, and if the political and academic classes continue to describe our system as free market or capitalistic, then the entirely predictable result is a mass embrace of socialism as the solution to said economic pain.
The adoration of socialism by the younger generation is not merely a result of their natural ignorance on these matters; though because they are products of a highly bureaucratized and pro-government system, this is obviously the case. Rather, the espousal is a result of what they have been taught via schools, news, entertainment, political speeches, and other sources of intellectual influence. They have been taught both that we live in a free market, and that government is always the remedy.
Because the narrative is that we live in a free market, the benefit to the political class is twofold. 1) people can blame capitalism instead of government for economic pains; 2) Solutions must always come in the form of new government activity, since that has yet to be tried.
Thus, the masses currently clamor for the utopias of socialism to free them from the evils of capitalism, all while living under the rotten system of interventionism."
we need to become autonomous before we get sucked into this socialist hell hole.
realise a bad investment and cut your losses.
Finally got my hands on this wasnt easy to find.
Where did AfriForum get that list, by the way? Why is the fake news News24 calling it fake news?
I think the list is true
" AfriForum obtained a list of farms that have been identified for this purpose which is being circulated in the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform"
metric tons of what is that, Arminius?
Total gold production for ZA
Hey guys, has anyone seen @Shiver ???<:4076184540618424331:469993773548568587>
Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:
29 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year
373 in total or approximately 70%
Can you guess which organization this is?
Give up yet?
It's the 535 members of the SOUTH AFRICAN PARLIAMENT -
(The same group of morons that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line!)
You gotta pass this one on! Far and wide!
make a nice image for shaing around on the intertoobs
for kicks and likes and awareness and stuff
I want to consolidate with René in Orania
all this winnie mandela stuff is so tyresome 🔥
So whats news today in the land of Mzansi
To be honest I think these farm seizures have nothing to do with farming. They are targeting farms with critical resources underneath them, I bet that the Chinese have already told the South African Gov that in order to get another bail out they need to hand over mineral deposit leases.
Dont you find it strange not even after a few days of the BRICCS meeting with China and Russia we got the news Land Expropriation will happen. Not said farms have minerals
South Africa is by far the most mineral/resource rich country on the planet, I keep learning about minerals for the first time that South Africa has a monopoly on, for instance 80% of the worlds Manganese. That's vital for galvanising metal.
Single C meant to be Brics
I have found a couple interesting things mentioning the farms on the list. Just need time to look into this more,just been too busy with work.
something awfully similar happened in America a few years ago, the first Bundy Ranch standoff, the Bundy family settled a ranch in Nevada long before Nevada even became a part of America, the American government had secretly sold off their land to the chinese for minerals and to start a solar farm there, the American government just claimed that they hadn't paid their taxes and tried to seize it off them,however the bundy's were willing to fight to the death so it didn't happen.
were having problems all over the world with the chinese trying to hoard our land and resources, when none of us are allowed to buy land in China, we are not even allowed to buy an apartment in China.
@Arm not even the Chinese are allowed to as far as i know to own land or buildings? Its all leases?
I'm pretty sure the chinese are allowed, only foreigners are not allowed.
Its a lease if your not chinese.
I watched some vids of a SA guy there speaking about the ghost towns etc. But couldn't remember the entire story. Thanks
yeah Serpent ZA, ''Winston''
In general, rural collectives own agricultural land and the state owns urban land. However, Article 70 of The Property Law allows for ownership of exclusive parts within an apartment building, which endorses the individual ownership of apartments.
Thats the guy!
so much for them having a high IQ, they can't make anything that's not toxic or doesn't fall apart.
they need shutting down
Communism is a deadly disease
they have a video on ghost cities where half a skypscraper just collapses infront of them, and it had only been standing for a couple years.
Talk about a Paper Palace
if you find it please share. I would love to see that and their reactions
or wait is it that one you shared? I am going to watch it now
its the one where they visit a ghost city on foot and joke around that they own property there
One mentioned DE BEERS diamonds wanting to prospect it. Another one also mentioned diamonds in a report. Then there was one situated near a proposed mining project that wanted to build 35 houses on it (possible to house senior mining staff?) One was mentioned in a realy old report of the 80's mentioning shale gas. The northern cape has been on the table for a long time to start fracking and i saw a recent article released two weeks ago that government wants to move ahead. They want to get exploration rights on the farms and with EWC they can start operating as the land is now the governments. I have only glanced over a couple yesterday as i was too busy,wil check into it further this week/weekend. Ever since that deal with china,EWC is being fast tracked and the fracking is back on the table. Its no secret that china is heavily invested in africa.
That's obviously a film set
@Arm Lol I was responding to the video about Chinese property 😂
Those ghost towns are crazy
they are real
Lol I know
what is EWC?
Expropriation without compensation
@Arm The view from the guy's flat was pretty amazing though
its about minerals, SA is a mining economy, not a farming economy like Zim
No one else find anything interesting about the list
@Arm diamonds,gold you name it we have it all. Yet we are a shithole country
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oops i posted the same vid
i have no problem with them.
i see lots of people like to talk shit about them.
@cµrvy i noticed that (talking shit about them). I was wondering if they have a good plan or is it beter everyman for himself if the situation ever gets to that stage. They dont share much so I was wondering. Running doesn't seem like the first solution, rather the last
Is there anyone on this discord that's a member maybe?
They have a good initiative but they did say in plenty of videos that they feel sorry for folks who live in the city and urban areas.
i don't know if they're trustworthy or using scare tactics to get more members to join. they were kind of transparent with the money they got from the US. Haven't really looked into their plans.. I suppose you can't if you're not member..
They do ask membership fees I think...
But we can find out..
Oh sorry I see you did a edit
They posted the other day on youtube how they took donation money over $10-15k and filled up tanks with diesel.
It would be great if someone joins and gives us some insight to be honest.
they also showed the radios and medical supplies they bought.
Yeah your right...
@MR VLAK I've been watching their content for a long time, I think they are legit
Yeah that's good and all, questioning their integrity comes after, would be nice before we check them out, to check whether their plan is solid, and whether it's worth investing the effort to debunk a group with an idea i never should have been interested in.. More insight would be nice.
I've questioned their integrity a lot, came to the conclusion that other people are being too paranoid
I dont trust simon roche. Any man that associated himself with the communist anc is not on my side
They seem to have disagreements with Afriforum but I've not seen anyone explain why yet.
if the shit hits the fan follow the nearest suidlander :)
I doubt that is even his real name
probs due to autism
ima be all over him like white on rice.
The "Dark Tourist" episode that featured Suidlanders made them look bad. Bad optics.
@Arm yeah i get where you coming from... Always hear about how people feel about them, hardly what people genuinely think. I'm rather keen to know what their plan is, because the pitch they sell, it sounds like they have a solid plan... I want to know if the plan convinces me or not.
Suidlanders plan is a survival retreat thats all. They are going to farms owned by members and wait it out till peace is restored
Welcome Steve 👋
Guss explained it well before, they say what they need to say in order to not get shut down, people further along the autistic spectrum that never bullshit don't understand that. and just take whatever they say for a fact.
Yeah I'm also not buying that the plan ends there. Pretty sure there is more to it than that.
Guss also said they're a bunch of trigger happy idiots.
for instance Jan Lamprecht came to the conclusion that simon wants to disarm you and lead you off to a humanitarian aid centre (concentration camp) I do like Jan a lot however he's highly paranoid and autistic
ya jan is...
a good oke, but yeah... a bit extreme.
Concentration camp haha ya that guy must be crazy
it did happen before you know.
and roch did work for the anc if i'm not mistaken..
now i'm getting paranoid.
Ya,i dont trust him. He looks like a bullshitter
How much money do they get monthly
plenty of right wingers used to be liberals you know.
Is it transparent
your allowed to change your mind and get it right.
But something seems off about that guy
would be good for willem to get him on a live stream.
Money is always a factor
i have the same feeling, gonzo. but i've been wrong about people before.
I've watched the vast majority of all his content/interviews and I'm convinced he's legit
he wouldnt run one of the main groups fighting the anc if he worked for them.
does he do anything else besides suidlanders stuff?
not that I'm aware of
i mean what was he before he became spox for suidlanders.
Worked for the anc. Financial advisor
he organised mandela's funeral
that was his last event
He did some work for goverment
oh right.. i thought that was long ago.
how true is the siener stuff? tha they're "guided by his prophecies" i wonder. i seem to recall one interview wherre he was reluctant to talk too much about it.
Boeremag was also guided by sieners prophecies and they are in jail
an unfortunate stain on the boer's underpants.
How come there is no English chat?
There is, but its empty for some reason tonight
General (with the Speaker Icon below)
That's a general channel, not an English only channel 😦
It is a good idea
only english in general
Its mostly English in there
anyone notice the distribution of races on that census map is aligned to the history of SA? 🤔
Right in the heart of darkness here
Kzn - Zulu
Ec - Xhosa
Kzn het baie potential
ek is 'n klein pers kolletjie in kzn tussen n klomp bloues.
I wonder if we were to ask a Zulu or Xhosa if they would have moved out of their area of origin and mix with different cultures if it wasn't for work if they would say yes.. I mean other african cultures
Ek is daai in een van daai kolle. lol
oops dit was groen* nie blou
Eks ini kaap
Gonzo. in die kaap in* :D
Om eerlik te wees mind ek nie die plek en mense te erg nie.
Kaap is nog wit😂
Kaap is nogal baie segregated. Omdat eiendom so duur is hier
Ons het baie coloureds. Nie so baie swartes nie
ya mr vlak, kzn is tjap!
as ek gauteng toe gaan wil ek net skiet.
Ek bly ver weg
@cµrvy ek stem. as jy daar is voel dit mense kyk met haat na n mens vir some rede
Nou dink as jy van die diep groen af kom hoe voel dit! 😂
Party plekke in SA in maar heel in sy moer in
interesting if you zoom in.
the population density in some of those areas are crazy!
and it's from 2011
I am sure there are many stories to tell from that to be honest. It is interesting for sure
I am currently in a big fight with my cell phone so no online for me, but I finally got Discord on my home pc so I can pop in again from time to time.
@cµrvy The Siener stuff is pretty accurate. Believe me when I say I sceptical to such things but Im reading the second book on it now. It is simply impossible for someone to be lucky that many times. The trick is to get the timing right. For instance he might say he sees the Volk being murdered in great numbers. That could be the current farm murders or it could be something still coming.
Ya that's why I'm sceptical about these things. You can pick and choose what to associate with each prophecy.
It's still interesting and I'll probably read it some time.
Anyway ,I figure it cant hurt to read the stuff and be aware. The next big one he predicted was that Luderitz will become very very important strategic port for us, there will be 5 war ships from Germany sent to come and help us in the war against the natives. We will then make use of the train line from Luderitz to Prieska to send aid to our people. At Prieska there will be a massive gathering of Faithfull Afrikaners where we will elect the new president of the third Boer Republic. In honour of the treaty with the Boers made in 1914 ,Germany will assist the Boers.
Now Luderitz harbour was way too small and shallow for even 1 warship and the train line was buried under meters of sand. 19 November 2014 the new railway line between Luderitz and Prieska was completed and officially opened.In 2014-2015 Luderitz harbour was upgraded, it can now harbour ships with a draught of 8m deep and 160m long.
Keep in mind that prediction or vision was made in early 1920's! Im not sure if you guys know of the second Boer rebellion of 1914? Basically Generals Smuts and Botha decided to attack the Germans at Luderitz to assist the English to secure Namibia.
General De Wet was against this so they hoisted the Vierkleur in Koppies and then 600 Boers including Siener VR rode to Luderitz to assist the Germans. Keep in mind during 1899-1902 the Germans supplied the Boers with guns and Cannons against the English.
When these 600 Boers reached Luderitz ,they signed a treaty which amongst other things stated that they would not take up arms against Germany, now and in the future.
Wow chilling stuff. Very interesting indeed. Maybe the last prophecies will become self-fulfilling, used as a guide.
Is Is this the same book as the pdf in <#475032588814123030> ?
Do you guys have the link to the list of farms to be seized? (I'm late to this).
last post in <#469914715594817537>
Thanks. This is incredibly sad.
saying "there's not a list"
Might not be the official list,but farms on that list appear in government documents about land restitution. And some are sought after by private companies.
@Gonzo Yes, I have noticed that too, some dating back to 2012
@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) yip some even dating back more. That is why i believe that list is 100% correct. It's a list with farms that have been sought after for a long time.
Im going to try and look into what you said about the farms in the Northern Caoe. The ones I have looked up are all south of Aggenys, they mine all sorts of minerals there, will try to find a link between thise and fracking
I just need more time to look into it,just too busy currently. Did you read my post last night about the ANC wanting to advance the fracking process in the karoo.
Yes in the northern cape fracking has been the big debate over the years.
De Beers also want to propspect more areas in the NC