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Kind of sick of Zille's spamming of "sock puppets" and "bots". She sounds like Hillary Clinton.
I hear you
The US Air Force has an army of around 30 000 bots, so it's hardly the "evil" forces of the world having all the fun. All governments use them.
yeah it's really annoying all these invisible boogeymen undermining democracies and swaying votes of entire nations...
Wat maak julle manne?
Ek braai net gou dan join ek later 👍🏻
Good evening everyone
k)I trust everyone had a great Monday (tongue in cheek)
Daniebees...you have the right idea!!!
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Well lets get this show on the road then
thanks Penkop, thats nice of you :)
Just watched Willem's latest upload. Good work, I'm glad to see some anger there.
Anger gets shit done
IFP says reinstate death penalty
Im all for killing murderers and rapists, the system that decided who is guilty and who is not, therein lies our problem. Inequality for example. The white lady that said the racist remarks to the police got sentenced, while nothing happened to the black lady who did exactly the same
It's just as well, the mob lynching already proves they want to support death penalty, but i suspect it is them who wants to dictate who dies according to their feefees, not the law as reason would dictate... You can't reason with the unreasonable, so challenge is how to get in implimented then.
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Could we get more context on this so we don't have to rely on assumptions?
"However, people do not ask for socialism because they know that socialism will improve their conditions, and they do not reject capitalism because they know that it is a system prejudicial to their interests. They are socialists because they believe that socialism will improve their conditions, and they hate capitalism because they believe that it harms them. They are socialists because they are blinded by envy and ignorance. They stubbornly refuse to study economics and spurn the economists' devastating critique of the socialist plans because, in their eyes, economics, being an abstract theory, is simply nonsense. They pretend to trust only in experience. But they no less stubbornly refuse to take cognizance of the undeniable facts of experience, namely, that the common man's standard of living is incomparably higher in capitalistic American than in the socialist paradise of the Soviets." The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality, Ludwig von Mises
sorry no .txt or attachments that could have virus's
a txt file with a virus 😃
If it doesn't embed its getting deleted. Very easy to put a payload in .txt .doc .pdf etc.
Sorry but its called safe practice 😉
a link OK with you mod?
Here is a new topic, I would like some comments on. Because it is too long, here is a link to where I blogged it.
I THINK SOME MOVEMENTS LIKE USAF ARE FAKE MONEY MAKING SCHEMES. Read the blog, come back here and tell me if you think I am wrong. Here is the link:
ok so, I personally think the whole SSGH thing is silly and wont work (even without your info about scams etc) - but I think it can be used as a political angle
I mean even if they didnt run a scam, they have no chance
BUT this could be a useful opportunity to take advantage of
Yea, you mean if there is other culture groups also jumping on the bandwagon (like the Zulu's) then maybe the subject becomes something that is discussed?
well in that sense, that helps a bit - in a way I'm happy the more infighting there is hehe
Cant the boers try to start working towards self-determination like the list you mentioned in the drier Karoo areas
The whole SSGH is just a feint under which to achieve this goal
if ssgh is legit, then its still fine, if not, also fine
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LUck I'm already in WC, but I rather die than bend my knee for a "king"
Yup, but I don't think it need to come to that
It should take a long time for them to gain any tracktion - if they ever even do
But until groups of boers can be self-sustainable, this can be used as a "safety cover"
Is there some Live Chat going on somewhere, and why does the system keep on asking me to do the $agree in accept rules, if I already did it, and on second attempt, nothing change?
hmmm yeah i wonder hehe
ok, got it, kak-praat kannel
You don't have to keep on agreeing your already verified...
you have access to all the channels
I didn't add you, it was all you 😉
And @Shiver, a txt file can NOT have a payload / virus (except if it is disguised as an txt (in its filename))
she is not really into tech stuff lol
You as admin open it in your playpen / VM
and do not hide extensions in Explorer
Let me check....
So, the general notion toward the SSGH is negative? Seems like the only real hope for minorities in the country other than leave or die some meaningless death? I dont know, It give me a glimmer of hope. Something worth fighting for. what else do we have?
Admin did not want to allow attachments, so I posted it here:
oh there it is
Here is another spanner in the wheel.
If i was itelligence for gov, I would create a BOERE site, a anti-right, and play the role.... this way I can mark the trouble makers.....
just be carefull
alt-right I mean
oh yeah believe me in know
the real way to plan things, cost money.... face to face
Oh the blog post was also in txt. Got it
I also said it was all about money,our country does not recognise him as a traditional leader. Only 7 traditional leaders are recognised and paid,so was it about him being recognised and getting his pay cut.
yeah, not that I am sure of his intentions, BUT, I'm not sure our gov is a dependable source lol
I mean they always just push own agendas, not ppl - as far as I'm concerned any case
anyhow, I guess we'll just see how things play out.
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Baden powell road = DEATH
It is that bad
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self managed - all governmets BAD
Hi guys, I am still trying to find my way around discord. I am enjoying the Radio kakpraat, but it hangs constantly.
might be your connection, pretty smooth on my end, i have a 4mb line though, what you got?
Your connection is bad.... I'm in there for a few hours, and it went silent twice, for a few seconds
but then... I'm on 40mb
Anarchism... thats the word I was looking for
I am running on Fibre.
Hmmm, not sure then... maybe troubleshoot a bit
anyhows, i am out for the evening. cherrs
Strange, I'm getting `DOWNLOAD TEST ERROR`
I'm on old school VDSL....(40)... we do not have fibre... but I heard some areas with new implementations has lots of issues
why did I get tagged?
but its your side, for sure, no one else complaining
I'll change my username
Okay hopefully it's not like this all the time.
That thick green cable is 5 meter form my border, but they still digging between Sedgefield and George....
can;t wait for fibre !
That is a sit one.... he sold you out
Where do i comment on the Radio Kakpraat?
Okay just confirming what I thought
Endeavour, you have a vlog?
We are getting rid of what is left of the left
Yes being open minded makes you a softy. You can't stand for anything.
Because they were all like minded people.
now it's being a ceaser salad
yea, be an individual, think for yourself.... be careful not being a choirboy.
Much smoother yes thanks
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@Endeavour to some extend we more wealth because we know that one works for results.
Does Jonathan Witt only have the podcast, or is there a vlog somehwere?
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Managed to tune into radio kakpraat for a little while last night. Willem has started something good here, even if its just to give people a voice that dont want to stand up on live tv or the people like me not interested in having a dialogue with someone who just pulls the race card every time he or she gets proven wrong. I am not home and using a very slow connection too but it worked fine. A little glitch in the matrix every now and then but overall good.
Maybe its just me but a dialogue between even the worst enemies goes like this: one side (party A) says what they need to while the other side (party B) listens and takes notes. Now once party A has finished, it is party B’s turn to counter what party A said. In SA and I seeing it more and more in other places party A says what they want , which are false statements 80% of the time, then they refuse to give party B a chance to make their statement. If party B does get a chance to say something, party A simply cause a massive disruption or when they dont like ehat they hear they walk out.
I was a bit late but I also tuned into Radio Kakpraat at about 11pm last night. Is that a usual thing or did you guys only start that recently?
What I would like to know is how do you then get your point out there? How do you even the playing field? Alternative media like Lauren, Stefan, Willem do a great job but that is just it its alternative media. The millions of blind followers dont really get to see it. I am worried about this EWC meeting coming up in Pretoria ,Afriforum wants us to attend in big nr’s You know BFLF and eff are going to provoke a big group of white people while our leftist media are going to make us out to be a bunch of apartheid loving racists
And heavens forbid someone loses a temper and it gets physical. Exactly the excuse that the lefties are waiting for.
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@Penkop , I think it is a good thing if you join the Afriforum group...
Yes they will give you some flak, but you have the right to be there... But take a chill pill before the time so you don't get agrivated for the insults coming.... There is one thing I am 100% sure of is they see to where they can push us before so we can be made out as these bad guys they try to make us out...
I have the same situation at work, but will never give in en satisfy them...
Yup Im a member of afriforum. And yeas I agree, cool heads will prevail. Its a pitty we cant get international media to follow the group from the morning before the meeting all the way till the end.
Just keep the cellphone cams rolling... Any evidence is beter than none
Some of the hearings get uploaded to the parliamentry YouTube channel, those videos are free to be downloaded and distributed.
This video Tweet has 350 retwets and 15k views, and a lot of them were retweets by Europeans and Americans.
Sometimes a little effort can go a long way.
Sure, 19 out of 20 of these videos amount to nothing, but the 1 that does, makes the effort of the 19 other worth while.
Let's play a game.
What do you make of this? "Lockean equality involves not merely equality before legislators, judges, and police, but, far more crucially, equality with legislators, judges, and police."
Some movement in the SSGH group. Anyone near parliament to confirm?
Hello everyone whats news in this crazy world today?
@Daniebees Seems to be dawning on everyone we're going to the IMF to get money because Eskom stole too much.
Means downgrade, capital flight, disaster.
Eskom debt to be 600B in a while, not really avoidable, IMF it is.
They will put the freakin Electricity price up because of their bumbling to get more money
@Graeme the Guerrilla Yeah but like 20% of people actually pay for power, it's not sustainable.
You think they care?
SA has shown a yearly inflationary increase since I don't know when....Likely since 1994
How many times have we bailed out SAA?
And they cant not help out ESKOM since no EISHKOM...no Power
@Arcade_Hustle another day in Africa. Eskom is going to sink this country
Its other peoples money in their eyes...as long as the ministers dont have to pay and get fat salaries...business as usual
Might be getting money from Saudis instead of IMF
What what that means is a whole other story.
Yes for lucrative contracts
But it's not enough though, will have to be IMF, we need something like 600B for Eskom
We give you X you give us Y
Arabs have a shit ton of money. My friend stays that side. They basically are OPEC
IMF may want conditions
@Graeme the Guerrilla They do, but nobody is going to just give 600B to a bunch of commie retards just like that.
namely property rights to protect their investment
you will be surprised. Again you pay us X we will give you Y. Guptas 2.0
@Graeme the Guerrilla Some clever dude said going to IMF will make investors flee en masse.
LIke hyperinflation in 2 years type of thing
its already happening. I heard on Social media investors are reluctant now due to land grab talks
I would also hold back if I had money to invest
if they fuck the economy due to this land shit we will get hyper inflation like in Zim
hence why 4 Zimbabweans rather work here by us in our office then go back. Because their banks are fucked. The economy is fucked. And shit costs dollar rates
If you can leave SA go. Sorry to say
You cant fight this rationale. They double down when shit happens and blame external forces. Whites or the West for their bad decisions. then wrap it all up in a THEY RACIST ribbon
@Graeme the Guerrilla Yeah I don't see us coming out winning here.
I don't I really don't.
My land lady went to Aus to visit her Daughter as her Daughter immigrated a year back. She says you can walk around at night safely. Pot holes get fixed in a day. No litter. Hardly no crime. its alien to live in a gated community for them.
She did say its very structured so you cant just plant a tree on your outside lawn and build like you want. But rules are respected
@Graeme the Guerrilla "The World Bank and IMF recognises the serious danger ESKOM poses to the SA economy, it's impossible to correct or improve it with it's massive indebtedness of R600 Billion which the state is the guarantor. Cannot see any other solution than an IMF bailout."
"It indicates to investors that you cannot run your economy, you are a step away from being insolvent. IMF bailout will be followed by huge capital outflows and a falling currency followed by hyper inflation."
Maybe they will make a deal with China or Russia
We have very good relations with Commie China
hence why teh Dali Lama was blocked our end as China said no guys
They worry about white capital. China is taking over
I believe they surpassed Japan economically
And if you been to any China mall they pay blacks slave wages. They don't believe in worker rights. So if they think the Ching Chongs are Africas friend....yeah right