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2018-07-23 10:24:05 UTC

Totsiens, **kriptomaan#3872**

https://imgur.com/w1mWJBi

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Aangename kennis @ProTesTanT, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-07-23 12:30:23 UTC

Ditsem! @Klipkop (Clip-Cop), you just advanced to level 6!

2018-07-23 13:36:04 UTC

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2018-07-23 14:22:17 UTC

!link

2018-07-23 14:22:32 UTC

!Invite

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2018-07-23 14:47:47 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/470965256919711754/img1942324_6df976e3bb215b66.jpg

2018-07-23 14:47:47 UTC

Ditsem! @Friday, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-07-23 16:20:01 UTC

Kind of sick of Zille's spamming of "sock puppets" and "bots". She sounds like Hillary Clinton.

2018-07-23 16:20:34 UTC

I hear you

2018-07-23 16:21:30 UTC

The US Air Force has an army of around 30 000 bots, so it's hardly the "evil" forces of the world having all the fun. All governments use them.

2018-07-23 16:35:58 UTC

yeah it's really annoying all these invisible boogeymen undermining democracies and swaying votes of entire nations...

2018-07-23 16:36:42 UTC

@TruthCanary Yes, they're almost worse than Breitbart

2018-07-23 16:36:47 UTC

or Snopes

2018-07-23 17:08:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471000711979597824/image.jpg

2018-07-23 17:08:45 UTC

Wat maak julle manne?

2018-07-23 17:09:16 UTC

Ek braai net gou dan join ek later πŸ‘πŸ»

2018-07-23 17:14:13 UTC

Good evening everyone

2018-07-23 17:14:47 UTC

k)I trust everyone had a great Monday (tongue in cheek)

2018-07-23 17:15:54 UTC

Daniebees...you have the right idea!!!

2018-07-23 17:20:20 UTC

πŸ‘

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2018-07-23 17:32:10 UTC

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Aangename kennis @Coelacanth, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸŒΎπŸŽ™οΈ

2018-07-23 17:32:54 UTC

hi.

2018-07-23 17:36:39 UTC

Well lets get this show on the road then

2018-07-23 17:38:47 UTC

thanks Penkop, thats nice of you :)

2018-07-23 17:39:16 UTC

Just watched Willem's latest upload. Good work, I'm glad to see some anger there.

2018-07-23 17:39:27 UTC

Anger gets shit done

2018-07-23 17:39:34 UTC

IFP says reinstate death penalty

2018-07-23 18:17:14 UTC

Im all for killing murderers and rapists, the system that decided who is guilty and who is not, therein lies our problem. Inequality for example. The white lady that said the racist remarks to the police got sentenced, while nothing happened to the black lady who did exactly the same

2018-07-23 18:30:10 UTC

It's just as well, the mob lynching already proves they want to support death penalty, but i suspect it is them who wants to dictate who dies according to their feefees, not the law as reason would dictate... You can't reason with the unreasonable, so challenge is how to get in implimented then.

2018-07-23 18:55:40 UTC

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2018-07-23 18:58:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471028301352140805/unknown.png

2018-07-23 19:04:32 UTC

Could we get more context on this so we don't have to rely on assumptions?

2018-07-23 19:16:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471032772325015563/unknown.png

2018-07-23 19:28:10 UTC

What was the fight about @Willem Petzer ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471035815984758795/unknown.png

2018-07-23 19:32:38 UTC

"However, people do not ask for socialism because they know that socialism will improve their conditions, and they do not reject capitalism because they know that it is a system prejudicial to their interests. They are socialists because they believe that socialism will improve their conditions, and they hate capitalism because they believe that it harms them. They are socialists because they are blinded by envy and ignorance. They stubbornly refuse to study economics and spurn the economists' devastating critique of the socialist plans because, in their eyes, economics, being an abstract theory, is simply nonsense. They pretend to trust only in experience. But they no less stubbornly refuse to take cognizance of the undeniable facts of experience, namely, that the common man's standard of living is incomparably higher in capitalistic American than in the socialist paradise of the Soviets." The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality, Ludwig von Mises

2018-07-23 19:41:26 UTC

@Daniel van Straaten What group is it that they mention?

2018-07-23 19:42:07 UTC

Renegade Report

2018-07-23 20:08:21 UTC

sorry no .txt or attachments that could have virus's

2018-07-23 20:10:33 UTC

a txt file with a virus πŸ˜ƒ

2018-07-23 20:11:10 UTC

If it doesn't embed its getting deleted. Very easy to put a payload in .txt .doc .pdf etc.

2018-07-23 20:12:51 UTC

Sorry but its called safe practice πŸ˜‰

2018-07-23 20:13:16 UTC

no problem

2018-07-23 20:15:32 UTC

a link OK with you mod?

2018-07-23 20:16:14 UTC

cool

2018-07-23 20:18:14 UTC

@Guss I read your txt - I'd like to throw in my 2 c

2018-07-23 20:18:21 UTC

Here is a new topic, I would like some comments on. Because it is too long, here is a link to where I blogged it.
I THINK SOME MOVEMENTS LIKE USAF ARE FAKE MONEY MAKING SCHEMES. Read the blog, come back here and tell me if you think I am wrong. Here is the link:
http://www.gussdavey.co.za/post/usaf-is-fake

2018-07-23 20:18:37 UTC
2018-07-23 20:19:20 UTC

ok so, I personally think the whole SSGH thing is silly and wont work (even without your info about scams etc) - but I think it can be used as a political angle

2018-07-23 20:19:41 UTC

I mean even if they didnt run a scam, they have no chance

2018-07-23 20:20:02 UTC

BUT this could be a useful opportunity to take advantage of

2018-07-23 20:20:19 UTC

Yea, you mean if there is other culture groups also jumping on the bandwagon (like the Zulu's) then maybe the subject becomes something that is discussed?

2018-07-23 20:20:47 UTC

well in that sense, that helps a bit - in a way I'm happy the more infighting there is hehe

2018-07-23 20:20:49 UTC

but also

2018-07-23 20:20:50 UTC

@Daniel van Straaten <#469953958522126336> πŸ˜‰

2018-07-23 20:21:50 UTC

Cant the boers try to start working towards self-determination like the list you mentioned in the drier Karoo areas

2018-07-23 20:21:53 UTC

!invite

2018-07-23 20:21:53 UTC
2018-07-23 20:22:37 UTC

The whole SSGH is just a feint under which to achieve this goal

2018-07-23 20:23:08 UTC

if ssgh is legit, then its still fine, if not, also fine

2018-07-23 20:23:22 UTC

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2018-07-23 20:25:24 UTC

@Guss What do you think?

2018-07-23 20:26:56 UTC

LUck I'm already in WC, but I rather die than bend my knee for a "king"

2018-07-23 20:27:22 UTC

Yup, but I don't think it need to come to that

2018-07-23 20:27:50 UTC

It should take a long time for them to gain any tracktion - if they ever even do

2018-07-23 20:28:26 UTC

But until groups of boers can be self-sustainable, this can be used as a "safety cover"

2018-07-23 20:28:26 UTC

Ditsem! @Newscat ZA, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-07-23 20:28:44 UTC

Is there some Live Chat going on somewhere, and why does the system keep on asking me to do the $agree in accept rules, if I already did it, and on second attempt, nothing change?

2018-07-23 20:28:57 UTC

hmmm yeah i wonder hehe

2018-07-23 20:29:28 UTC

ok, got it, kak-praat kannel

2018-07-23 20:29:48 UTC

?

2018-07-23 20:30:02 UTC

You don't have to keep on agreeing your already verified...

2018-07-23 20:30:24 UTC

you have access to all the channels

2018-07-23 20:31:13 UTC

Hello everyone, thanks for the add @Shiver

2018-07-23 20:31:29 UTC

I didn't add you, it was all you πŸ˜‰

2018-07-23 20:31:30 UTC
2018-07-23 20:33:34 UTC

And @Shiver, a txt file can NOT have a payload / virus (except if it is disguised as an txt (in its filename))

2018-07-23 20:33:34 UTC

Ditsem! @Guss, you just advanced to level 3!

2018-07-23 20:33:54 UTC

@Rendier can you get Hellen Zille on here?

2018-07-23 20:34:30 UTC

she is not really into tech stuff lol

2018-07-23 20:34:30 UTC

Ditsem! @Rendier, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-07-23 20:34:52 UTC

@Guss and how do you know its not disguised?

2018-07-23 20:35:25 UTC

You as admin open it in your playpen / VM

2018-07-23 20:35:48 UTC

and do not hide extensions in Explorer

2018-07-23 20:35:53 UTC

@Guss that link is not taking me to your article

2018-07-23 20:35:57 UTC

lol,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471052877729628182/aint-nobody-got-time-fo-dat4.png

2018-07-23 20:36:26 UTC

Let me check....

2018-07-23 20:37:45 UTC

So, the general notion toward the SSGH is negative? Seems like the only real hope for minorities in the country other than leave or die some meaningless death? I dont know, It give me a glimmer of hope. Something worth fighting for. what else do we have?

2018-07-23 20:38:19 UTC

@Guss working now

2018-07-23 20:39:53 UTC

@Rendier are you Renaldo?

2018-07-23 20:40:12 UTC

yep

2018-07-23 20:43:36 UTC

yes

2018-07-23 20:46:53 UTC

@Gusswhat was the txt that was mentioned above? A manifesto of sorts

2018-07-23 20:46:53 UTC

Ditsem! @Gonzo, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-07-23 20:48:58 UTC

Admin did not want to allow attachments, so I posted it here:

2018-07-23 20:49:02 UTC

@Gonzo guss made a decent argument that SSGH are scam

2018-07-23 20:49:09 UTC

oh there it is

2018-07-23 20:50:27 UTC

Here is another spanner in the wheel.
If i was itelligence for gov, I would create a BOERE site, a anti-right, and play the role.... this way I can mark the trouble makers.....

2018-07-23 20:50:32 UTC

just be carefull

2018-07-23 20:50:46 UTC

alt-right I mean

2018-07-23 20:50:47 UTC

oh yeah believe me in know

2018-07-23 20:51:27 UTC

the real way to plan things, cost money.... face to face

2018-07-23 20:51:32 UTC

Oh the blog post was also in txt. Got it

2018-07-23 20:55:40 UTC

I also said it was all about money,our country does not recognise him as a traditional leader. Only 7 traditional leaders are recognised and paid,so was it about him being recognised and getting his pay cut.

2018-07-23 20:57:46 UTC

yeah, not that I am sure of his intentions, BUT, I'm not sure our gov is a dependable source lol

2018-07-23 20:58:29 UTC

I mean they always just push own agendas, not ppl - as far as I'm concerned any case

2018-07-23 21:00:47 UTC

anyhow, I guess we'll just see how things play out.

2018-07-23 21:14:26 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:15:44 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:18:21 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:18:52 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:19:07 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:20:24 UTC

Hallo

2018-07-23 21:20:32 UTC

Hi daar

2018-07-23 21:25:15 UTC

Baden powell road = DEATH

2018-07-23 21:25:47 UTC

It is that bad

2018-07-23 21:25:50 UTC

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2018-07-23 21:35:28 UTC

self managed - all governmets BAD

2018-07-23 21:36:05 UTC

Hi guys, I am still trying to find my way around discord. I am enjoying the Radio kakpraat, but it hangs constantly.

2018-07-23 21:37:08 UTC

might be your connection, pretty smooth on my end, i have a 4mb line though, what you got?

2018-07-23 21:37:12 UTC

Your connection is bad.... I'm in there for a few hours, and it went silent twice, for a few seconds

2018-07-23 21:37:48 UTC

but then... I'm on 40mb

2018-07-23 21:38:55 UTC

Anarchism... thats the word I was looking for

2018-07-23 21:38:58 UTC

lol

2018-07-23 21:42:02 UTC

I am running on Fibre.

2018-07-23 21:42:30 UTC

Hmmm, not sure then... maybe troubleshoot a bit

2018-07-23 21:42:38 UTC

anyhows, i am out for the evening. cherrs

2018-07-23 21:42:39 UTC

@Christopher_ send me a speedtest.net result please

2018-07-23 21:43:46 UTC

Strange, I'm getting `DOWNLOAD TEST ERROR`

2018-07-23 21:44:01 UTC

I'm on old school VDSL....(40)... we do not have fibre... but I heard some areas with new implementations has lots of issues

2018-07-23 21:44:15 UTC

why did I get tagged?

2018-07-23 21:44:26 UTC

but its your side, for sure, no one else complaining

2018-07-23 21:44:31 UTC

I'll change my username

2018-07-23 21:45:46 UTC

Okay hopefully it's not like this all the time.

2018-07-23 21:45:47 UTC

Ditsem! @theeChristopher, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-23 21:45:58 UTC

That thick green cable is 5 meter form my border, but they still digging between Sedgefield and George....

2018-07-23 21:46:04 UTC

can;t wait for fibre !

2018-07-23 21:47:41 UTC

That is a sit one.... he sold you out

2018-07-23 21:47:43 UTC

Where do i comment on the Radio Kakpraat?

2018-07-23 21:47:51 UTC

You can;t

2018-07-23 21:47:54 UTC

chat here

2018-07-23 21:48:06 UTC

Okay just confirming what I thought

2018-07-23 21:48:53 UTC

Endeavour, you have a vlog?

2018-07-23 21:50:14 UTC

We are getting rid of what is left of the left

2018-07-23 21:50:57 UTC

Yes being open minded makes you a softy. You can't stand for anything.

2018-07-23 21:51:23 UTC

Because they were all like minded people.

2018-07-23 21:51:32 UTC

now it's being a ceaser salad

2018-07-23 21:54:42 UTC

yea, be an individual, think for yourself.... be careful not being a choirboy.

2018-07-23 21:59:25 UTC

@theeChristopher Better now?

2018-07-23 22:00:22 UTC

Much smoother yes thanks

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2018-07-23 22:26:39 UTC

@Guss he posted link in <#468417556642791434>

2018-07-23 22:53:28 UTC

@Endeavour to some extend we more wealth because we know that one works for results.

2018-07-23 23:01:35 UTC

Does Jonathan Witt only have the podcast, or is there a vlog somehwere?

2018-07-23 23:33:44 UTC

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2018-07-23 23:55:53 UTC

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2018-07-24 05:32:05 UTC

More more

2018-07-24 06:29:01 UTC

good more

2018-07-24 08:53:46 UTC

Haai daar slaai blaar.

2018-07-24 08:57:23 UTC

Managed to tune into radio kakpraat for a little while last night. Willem has started something good here, even if its just to give people a voice that dont want to stand up on live tv or the people like me not interested in having a dialogue with someone who just pulls the race card every time he or she gets proven wrong. I am not home and using a very slow connection too but it worked fine. A little glitch in the matrix every now and then but overall good.

2018-07-24 09:03:31 UTC

Maybe its just me but a dialogue between even the worst enemies goes like this: one side (party A) says what they need to while the other side (party B) listens and takes notes. Now once party A has finished, it is party B’s turn to counter what party A said. In SA and I seeing it more and more in other places party A says what they want , which are false statements 80% of the time, then they refuse to give party B a chance to make their statement. If party B does get a chance to say something, party A simply cause a massive disruption or when they dont like ehat they hear they walk out.

2018-07-24 09:06:59 UTC

I was a bit late but I also tuned into Radio Kakpraat at about 11pm last night. Is that a usual thing or did you guys only start that recently?

2018-07-24 09:08:10 UTC

What I would like to know is how do you then get your point out there? How do you even the playing field? Alternative media like Lauren, Stefan, Willem do a great job but that is just it its alternative media. The millions of blind followers dont really get to see it. I am worried about this EWC meeting coming up in Pretoria ,Afriforum wants us to attend in big nr’s You know BFLF and eff are going to provoke a big group of white people while our leftist media are going to make us out to be a bunch of apartheid loving racists

2018-07-24 09:09:46 UTC

And heavens forbid someone loses a temper and it gets physical. Exactly the excuse that the lefties are waiting for.

2018-07-24 09:16:39 UTC

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2018-07-24 09:16:39 UTC

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2018-07-24 09:35:37 UTC

@Penkop , I think it is a good thing if you join the Afriforum group...
Yes they will give you some flak, but you have the right to be there... But take a chill pill before the time so you don't get agrivated for the insults coming.... There is one thing I am 100% sure of is they see to where they can push us before so we can be made out as these bad guys they try to make us out...

2018-07-24 09:36:40 UTC

I have the same situation at work, but will never give in en satisfy them...

2018-07-24 09:39:58 UTC

Yup Im a member of afriforum. And yeas I agree, cool heads will prevail. Its a pitty we cant get international media to follow the group from the morning before the meeting all the way till the end.

2018-07-24 09:44:37 UTC

Just keep the cellphone cams rolling... Any evidence is beter than none

2018-07-24 09:47:13 UTC

Some of the hearings get uploaded to the parliamentry YouTube channel, those videos are free to be downloaded and distributed.

This video Tweet has 350 retwets and 15k views, and a lot of them were retweets by Europeans and Americans.

Sometimes a little effort can go a long way.

Sure, 19 out of 20 of these videos amount to nothing, but the 1 that does, makes the effort of the 19 other worth while.

https://twitter.com/Klipkop12/status/1015945828933013504

2018-07-24 10:24:41 UTC

Let's play a game.

2018-07-24 10:33:33 UTC

What do you make of this? "Lockean equality involves not merely equality before legislators, judges, and police, but, far more crucially, equality with legislators, judges, and police."

https://mises.org/library/equality-unknown-ideal

2018-07-24 10:41:56 UTC

Some movement in the SSGH group. Anyone near parliament to confirm?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471265772489146379/Screen_Shot_2018-07-24_at_12.37.27.png

2018-07-24 11:12:25 UTC

Hello everyone whats news in this crazy world today?

2018-07-24 11:16:43 UTC

@Daniebees Seems to be dawning on everyone we're going to the IMF to get money because Eskom stole too much.

2018-07-24 11:17:01 UTC

Means downgrade, capital flight, disaster.

2018-07-24 11:17:29 UTC

Eskom debt to be 600B in a while, not really avoidable, IMF it is.

2018-07-24 11:39:29 UTC

They will put the freakin Electricity price up because of their bumbling to get more money

2018-07-24 11:40:11 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla Yeah but like 20% of people actually pay for power, it's not sustainable.

2018-07-24 11:40:26 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla We're going down because of Eskom.

2018-07-24 11:40:27 UTC

You think they care?

2018-07-24 11:41:14 UTC

SA has shown a yearly inflationary increase since I don't know when....Likely since 1994

2018-07-24 11:41:31 UTC

How many times have we bailed out SAA?

2018-07-24 11:41:59 UTC

And they cant not help out ESKOM since no EISHKOM...no Power

2018-07-24 11:42:46 UTC

@Arcade_Hustle another day in Africa. Eskom is going to sink this country

2018-07-24 11:43:22 UTC

Its other peoples money in their eyes...as long as the ministers dont have to pay and get fat salaries...business as usual

2018-07-24 11:43:22 UTC

Ditsem! @Graeme the Guerrilla, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-07-24 11:43:33 UTC

Might be getting money from Saudis instead of IMF

2018-07-24 11:43:53 UTC

What what that means is a whole other story.

2018-07-24 11:44:08 UTC

Yes for lucrative contracts

2018-07-24 11:44:21 UTC

But it's not enough though, will have to be IMF, we need something like 600B for Eskom

2018-07-24 11:44:24 UTC

We give you X you give us Y

2018-07-24 11:44:32 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla Yeah but it's not enough.

2018-07-24 11:45:07 UTC

Arabs have a shit ton of money. My friend stays that side. They basically are OPEC

2018-07-24 11:45:34 UTC

IMF may want conditions

2018-07-24 11:45:34 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla They do, but nobody is going to just give 600B to a bunch of commie retards just like that.

2018-07-24 11:45:49 UTC

namely property rights to protect their investment

2018-07-24 11:46:22 UTC

you will be surprised. Again you pay us X we will give you Y. Guptas 2.0

2018-07-24 11:46:25 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla Some clever dude said going to IMF will make investors flee en masse.

2018-07-24 11:46:51 UTC

LIke hyperinflation in 2 years type of thing

2018-07-24 11:47:05 UTC

its already happening. I heard on Social media investors are reluctant now due to land grab talks

2018-07-24 11:47:19 UTC

I would also hold back if I had money to invest

2018-07-24 11:48:03 UTC

if they fuck the economy due to this land shit we will get hyper inflation like in Zim

2018-07-24 11:49:10 UTC

hence why 4 Zimbabweans rather work here by us in our office then go back. Because their banks are fucked. The economy is fucked. And shit costs dollar rates

2018-07-24 11:49:45 UTC

If you can leave SA go. Sorry to say

2018-07-24 11:51:00 UTC

You cant fight this rationale. They double down when shit happens and blame external forces. Whites or the West for their bad decisions. then wrap it all up in a THEY RACIST ribbon

2018-07-24 11:51:47 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla Yeah I don't see us coming out winning here.

2018-07-24 11:52:07 UTC

I don't I really don't.

2018-07-24 11:54:01 UTC

My land lady went to Aus to visit her Daughter as her Daughter immigrated a year back. She says you can walk around at night safely. Pot holes get fixed in a day. No litter. Hardly no crime. its alien to live in a gated community for them.

2018-07-24 11:54:51 UTC

She did say its very structured so you cant just plant a tree on your outside lawn and build like you want. But rules are respected

2018-07-24 11:54:52 UTC

@Graeme the Guerrilla "The World Bank and IMF recognises the serious danger ESKOM poses to the SA economy, it's impossible to correct or improve it with it's massive indebtedness of R600 Billion which the state is the guarantor. Cannot see any other solution than an IMF bailout."

2018-07-24 11:55:01 UTC

"It indicates to investors that you cannot run your economy, you are a step away from being insolvent. IMF bailout will be followed by huge capital outflows and a falling currency followed by hyper inflation."

2018-07-24 11:55:35 UTC

Maybe they will make a deal with China or Russia

2018-07-24 11:55:50 UTC

We have very good relations with Commie China

2018-07-24 11:56:08 UTC

hence why teh Dali Lama was blocked our end as China said no guys

2018-07-24 11:56:39 UTC

They worry about white capital. China is taking over

2018-07-24 11:57:06 UTC

I believe they surpassed Japan economically

2018-07-24 11:58:44 UTC

And if you been to any China mall they pay blacks slave wages. They don't believe in worker rights. So if they think the Ching Chongs are Africas friend....yeah right

2018-07-24 12:28:42 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/471292642265661450/image.jpg

2018-07-24 12:28:49 UTC

African maths

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