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Don't make me banish you to the <#469490581899575297>. No revolts on my watch.
Why not expand and make it home for everyone. It's not like you have to pay a fee or anything to create a room/group? Lol
@Sheamus Seen such extensive catering tried multiple times on different discord servers and it reliably ends up a chaotic mess.
It's the very same problem, in principle, the ever expanding LGBTQI movement has. Trust me.
@Conscious Caracal I wouldnt compare if you do it with structure. If there are people willing to dedicate themselves to such a group, them elevate them to moderate it guided by set of principles that govern all other groups. It's when you do away with that structure of enforcing the principle, that it inevitably becomes a mess.
I am sure Malcolm would accept the responisibility of maintaining order in that group
That's way to complex a system for this stage, sorry mate.
Nowhere do you see a server with a 100 different sub sections, unless you have a rock solid structure and team.
The effort and time you're proposing vastly exceeds the current benefits.
Why undermine us though like we are children? Not attacking you, just reasoning with you. It does come across as not having much faith in us... if a group becomes a problem or idle for too long with no maintenance i am sure it can be closed down with little criticism.
What? 😂 Not investing in luxuries due to resource constraints is not treating you like children. You'll survive without these niche channels until we have a stronger server structure in place, relax, my dude.
What resource constraint though, if Malcolm wishes to accept the responsibility, it is his time, not yours.
Sure no problem lol
Willems channel has grown a lot in the last few days, let it simmer and settle
just again, not attacking you, dont take it the wrong way lol
@Sheamus A discord server with niche channels is only dignified if said niche falls in with the core of the server. (1). (2) You populate additional channels as your discord server grows. Otherwise it becomes a complicated mess. We will be hitting 200 Members total this weekend with an active user list of +- 40-50 users active on peak hours. That is small.
We will be supplying you with all the channels you need to the best of our abilities, but will not create channels that only has 2 posts an hour.
Dead channels = cancer
Take <#469596463345958912> as an excellent example. Good idea in principle, especially for the future. But it's dead at the moment.
Yes I agree, but if someone is going to take on a group, they are going to do the necessary marketing to attract attention, like I said, if it becomes idle for too long, or a problem, can put an end to it with little issue.
Give us time to structure the server's bread-and-butter channels first.
lol this is not a fraternity 😄
Sure, I can wait, I have patience lol, doesnt mean I can't talk ideas right?
not at all 😃
BTW have you fed our parrot yet today in <#469490581899575297> ? <----- @Sheamus
lol yeah, we had some back and forth today, got a new person to join us, Rob... also pretty cool engaging guy. Just struggling to find common ground with Deejay still, he seems hesitant on agreeing on the golden rule, not sure what common ground he is looking for though
I agree not too many niche channels. My only thing is there needs to be two news channels,one SaNews for us ZA people to talk about our news and a GlobalNews for everything else,hard to cyphen through there when it contains a lot of international news . PS: i will be posting in history,afterall willem is doing a whole series on our history so that channel is very much needed to discuss and share
that a dating site? lol
Okay, let's entertain it and browse the catalogue
Fake site dan
Maar wat de fok weet ek , ek is net 'n mal boer.
Nothing on voice tonight?
dink jy moet aansluit voor jy kan kyk, besig nou... sal julle laat weet as dit moeite werd is lol
i will in a few, maybe in like 15
Just stumbled accross this interview on the matrix. I absalutely admire how the 3 of them can sit around a table and discuss things, even though they might not agree with each other 100% about certain things. Here you go: https://youtu.be/vod5wi-88yY
Aangename kennis @™Brennladen, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** 👨🏼🌾🎙️
Aangename kennis @Brennladen, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** 👨🏼🌾🎙️
Goeie naand almal
Hoe gaan dit vanaand???
So what happened today? Did the Bushmen chase the ANC out of Cape Town or what? Im in Holland at the moment so I curious what is happening at home.
Ek is onseker oor die reels / formaat van hierdie gesprek, so as iemand my kan tou-wys maak...sal dit waardeer word
Brenn eks ook nog nuut. Die ou manne gaan jou nou beduie om asb brits te prat vir die internasionale lede
As predicted, sweet blow-all happened.
@Penkop , please do not believe the crap you see regarding the Khoisan "king" and cessesion of the Western Cape (in my humble opinion)
Got a bunch of people excited and then dropped them back into disappointment. I warned 'em
Point taken Caracal. But a man can dream, I suppose
The government will never let the Cape go, they get too much money from it
I would much rather support Gatvol Capetonians in their pursuit of "freedom", the other organisation seems to be a scam to extract money out of gullible white people
<#468390220736495616> has the article,should move the discusion there
Thank you Penkop...at least one other level-headed person I have come across so far, lol
@crazyBoer lol kinda odd, no option for single, or even caucasian lol... you sure this site is legit for afrikaners? lol
crazyboer, hy klink sommer rof!!!
Like I said I am a crazy person and you should not treat anything I say seriosly.
But to clarify I have not fact check them so I have no idea if their legit.
Ek is ontsettend bly ek het by hierdie gesprek aangesluit
Daai 4-kleur maak my sommer trots
Hoop net nie die "regering" het hulle spioene op hierdie gesprek nie
Motto in life my friend
Maby I am the gowerment.
Dun dun dun.
No No No...then you would be: lazyboer, lol
Let me try and lure out a government official. 🍌🍌🍌
Nope nothing Guese I am not the gowerment afterall.
Pls no investigate mr CIA nigger, i dindunuffin
I wouldnt be surprised if anyone attempted to infiltrate the commununity
Any government official would now run over all others to grab all 3 bananas and swallow them right away, then burn down the sight tomorrow because he is hungry and nobody is providing him with bananas
Agree Just be careful what you say, the lighs on your cars a watching
Wel...jy is definitief Afrikaans @crazyBoer , so ons neem maar aan jy werk nie vir die regering nie 😳
Hoe weet jy dit?
Tensy jy dalk 'n Nissan NP200 bakkie ry wat wag vir iemand op 'n grondpad???
Want jy sê ook nie 4 keer êêêh voor elke sin nie
Eish...is waar baas
Ok new topic
So if somebody decides to illegally enter your land/premises or erect a shack what are you allowed to do?
Call the cops or security?
You turn them into cheese.
A lot of police stations simply wont get involved because they say it is a political matter
yes i didnt say it would be worth while, but you are allowed to call them none the less'
In my opinion (fuck what the law states)...expropriate those individuals!!! 😁
Yeah i only believe in an objective law, no need for man made laws governed by emotions and political correctness.
At what point can you say, as a tax payer and law abiding citizen, the SAP must keep me safe and protect my rights but they are obviously not doing it so I need to take the responsibility onto myself to keep my property and my loved ones safe
Why can't we just turn them into cheese?
Correction...SAPS, South Africa Police SERVICE...it's clearly stated as a service and not a right / privilage
Make sure you have a large enough network of people to help you sort them out and protect you against SAPS
If all the "boers" or "whites" can LEARN TO WORK TOGETTHER...the land-grabbers do not stand a chance in hell
Citezens arrest? If you as a single individual can manage to arrest 20 land occupiers. What do you do with them. The SAP will not get involved so they will simply release them and probably end up arresting you instead
Hopefully there are no witnesses around. That is all Im gonna say...
I "citizen's arrested" 2x individuals myself 3 months ago for theft from our business premises. They got taken to the Police Station AND nothing happened thereafter
Are these "DETECTIVES" really going to forensically figure out what happened??? I think not
Headache of note!
Or rather a ball ache
The pendulum will swing back, always does.
But Joeliaaasss knows this. There is not much we as citizens can do. He wants us to feel helpless
Where is the line in the sand?
Well, as a government offical (paid with taxpayer's money)...scratching your balls for 9 hours a day (your shift hours), I can see how one can develop "ball-ache" 😁
@Karooboer Good question, which needs an answer... shall we reason about it?
Im hoping that this monster he has created will devour him. The poor people dont need land. They need housing and basic services. If you take a poor person from Kayelitcha and give him 10 Hectare of land. How is that going to improve his life? He will end up selling that land , spending the money and in 6 months time back in his shack in Kayelicha.
@Brennladen sars official was paid 2.5mil per year to read newspapers. TrueStory
Now, if you give him a house with working water, electricity and toilet you immediately improve his life. Just my humble opinion.
To think only 4million taxpayers is what keeps the wheel turning in this country.
I want to see what they do when farmer A says “no sorry, I am not giving it up” and 100 others help to block the access to farm? They gonna shoot them?
@Karooboerif the costitution is ammended to allow EWC then the police and army can remove you by force.
Karoo that is exactly the excuse they are waiting for to outright kill us. If a single farmer reacts for example shoots a land occupier to defend his own life they will see it as an act of war. All news around the world will say Boers are killing the poor black people again
Imagine FOX news with footage of SA army shooting up a bunch of white farmers while forcefully expropriating their land? I think world knows more than to believe that story @Penkop
I see it that with the popularity of conservatism rising fast, time in History is not on the side of communists
@Karooboer you will be seen as an illegal occupier so you can be removed by force.
Just because they can, doesnt mean they should... people arent stupid, they can see the constitution was changed to commit and justify evil
Anyway those people that he is promising a happy heaven after the EWC will eventually figure out that once again they voted for Joeliaaasss and CR but now they are not delivering on the promises they made before the election. Only the top officials are benefitting from EWC and the poor people remain poor , even poorer than before. I hope it will not be too late for my people by then
I also hope those people will then go knocking on Joeliaaass’ and CR’s doors with a tyre in one hand and lighter in the other, as is their custom
This country will erupt all over once they start using force to remove farmers, that is guaranteed. Hence I think they will use the Venazuela model or the BEE model, slowly by starting with unused land.
Its all a political game. ANC promises to keep the votes and keep them in power.
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They opened a door here which they will not be able to close. They have to push through.
Highly doubt people wil respond if a farmer is forcefully removed. Look at farm murders,only one protest ever.
At the expense of SA
Breaks my heart
All farmers will suddenly realize the reality and people in town and black land owners
They will respond I am sure of that
Expropriation is nothing new. Many farms have been bought by the anc. But the farmers get market related prices so they dont mind selling. The anc have 4500 farms sitting dormant currently.
Yeah i think when push comes to shove, the other 2 thirds will act accordingly
Once they start the rest will see open season
While land occupations where ongoing, the Government of Zimbabwe put into place the Fast Track Land Reform Programme on 15 July 2000; notably this programme came into being after the Constitution was amended in April of 2000 and the Land Acquisition Act of 1992 being amended in May 2000. This programme was justified with the aim of “fast tracking” land reform (land acquisition and resettlement) in order to drastically increase poverty reduction and to stimulate economic development and growth. In the wake of the programme’s announcement, land occupations didn’t cease, but rather increased in prevalence, now being granted a an additional layer of legitimacy.
@Conscious Caracal which is why I think it will happen spontaneously. This is like a balloon waiting to burst
I remember watching sabc news in 2000 when the farmers literally fled with the clothes on their backs while the farms were burned in the background.
any updates with the khoisan secession?
ah fucking publicity stunt
Exploiting people's hopes.
i dont like that kang anymore.
The best plan is to get security groups and networks to interconnect, nationally. Farms patrol groups, town networks, Afriforum networks ex. Then at least people can mobilize and react as necessary
@Karooboer the constitution needs to be ammended first,cant do anything if its not set in place. Thats why slow puncture is so vocal about it to get people radicalised and on his team for when the anc fails to push it through. Then we will see violence like never before.
what i find kinda odd is that ya'll aint racist as shit
race and iq
Ya sure? What about just banding together and taking a piece of land like they are?
i mean im ignorant and stupid on the topic to be honest.
@plasma Because white SA culture developed in very close proximity to black culture; we don't have time for *trivial* race tensions or racist rhetoric like many Americans or Europeans. Maybe I'm just biased as South Afriican. Americans are way more blatantly racist then us.
@plasma the “real” war is between them, they are still tribal as ever. They use us and land as an attempt to unify themselves, but as soon as order collapses they will attack each other aswell.
@Karooboer if we didnt have civil war when hani was murdered in 93' i doubt we wil see a full scale civil war all over the country. But never say never,history has shown it can happen.
For example, making a lot of noise regarding race and IQ isn't gonna help us jackshit.
If anything, it'll be incredibly counter productive
@Karooboer exactly like america the most crime is still black on black
@Conscious Caracal right they arent smart enough to understand their own stupidity....
What about Suid Landers and Simon Roche, I heard that shit is fake. But he kinda made me learn about this first
@plasma With all due respect, white South Africans understand black people and culture a lot better than Americans - in my opinion.
yeah id bet you do, but NA blacks are different form African blacks.
10% white genese
What you call "KILLER AFRICANISED BEES" we just call bees.
@Conscious Caracal I get that we shouldnt autistically screah about Race and IQ but surely it offers a reasonable explanation for the high inequality in this country? Better than 'muh white privilege' arguments that are usually levelled against us.
Most white americans are like dodo birds
Good luck injecting that topic into SA discourse, @HoppeanSnake_ZA
....and having a calm, reasonable discussion.
We really need that discussion.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA Yeah no point in circlejerking about it but i feel that race and iq is generally accepted here
Really really do.
@Conscious Caracal tha's because us whites are African😁 american black people doesn't like it when i say i'm african.😂
@HoppeanSnake_ZA we all now why they suffer, but again we won’t be able to change that, they love communism too much.
I'm 9th generation South African - since 1688. I'm not African? Okay mate...
canada just imported 25,000 syrians. 50% of them will be inbred, and continue their inbreeding burning our healthcare system down 😦
fucking fuck. SA coming to Canada
man ya'll sud african whites are fucking beautiful people;
i know im trolling, he would want that though xD
we slotting floppies?
@Karooboer End the welfare state and give the black underclass free abortions instead. Hopefully the high IQ blacks will then raise the average IQ of blacks in SA. IF only the ANC didnt need mental infants to stay in power.
@plasma worst part about the refugees is that such a large proportion of them are age 18-24 and should rather be fighting for their country than fleeing
I have traced my family back to early 1700 in barrydale in WC.
@Dewald thats Europe, im sure we're taking a bunch of gays and what not as well
tons of fucking haitians running in Quebec
place is going to turn into paris
I think Rhodesia was the best country ever
Nah rhodesia was full of souties😂
My brother’s inlaws are still farming there
True. But so were our countries army
Don't confuse the Rhodesians with the Brits. Made of different stuff.
Britain dropped them like a wet rag...
sigh the brits. A lot of this is their fault
I was told all the stories of live in the good days. Like having to fish with a rifle on your back to defend against the crocodiles and hippos.
all of it is the Brit's fault
french a bit too
they made a lotta kak her for us and then also just abandoned their own people here
@plasma I won’t hate the Brits, I hate FW de Klerk and Roelf Meyer
Fuck the world for what they did to Rhodesia and us
im Canadian i know about maple syrup and wayn gretzky who are those people?
If we go back to Britain it should be to burn it down