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2018-07-17 17:21:25 UTC

2018-07-17 17:21:25 UTC

Aangename kennis @Christopher_, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 17:23:52 UTC

Naand mense. Willem ek sien my discord comment het gewerk๐Ÿ˜€
Discord is beter as whatsapp en nie amal wil skype chat of IRC gebruik nie so discord werk lekke. Kan altyd private servers create as daar te veel trolls is later aan.

2018-07-17 17:46:52 UTC

Guy in the US won his case to publish CAD files for firearms

2018-07-17 17:47:00 UTC

More to be added in he future

2018-07-17 17:47:10 UTC

Files will be available in August

2018-07-17 17:47:50 UTC

I donโ€™t know what the laws on part acquisitions in SA are but this would be a game changer

2018-07-17 17:48:18 UTC

Especially as it pertains to gun control and self defence

2018-07-17 17:48:19 UTC

Ditsem! @Frederick Bernal, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-17 17:48:35 UTC

SA gun laws are causing chaos at the moment.

2018-07-17 17:54:05 UTC

What part of the firearm is considered the โ€œgunโ€ itself in SA?

2018-07-17 17:54:25 UTC

In the US and in Canada just the receiver is the firearm

2018-07-17 17:54:45 UTC

Everything else can be acquired with out a license or permit in general

2018-07-17 17:55:16 UTC

In the UK it is the bolt, and trigger mechanism

2018-07-17 17:55:38 UTC

Or is it the case that in SA every component is regulated?

2018-07-17 17:55:38 UTC

Im just asking on GOSA facebook group.

2018-07-17 17:55:44 UTC

Ok

2018-07-17 17:59:18 UTC

Hmm

2018-07-17 18:00:17 UTC

From what I can find it seems โ€œmain firearm componentโ€ means the barrel, frame, receiver, slide, bolt or breech-block of a firearm

2018-07-17 18:00:33 UTC

That is more onerous than what the UK has to deal with

2018-07-17 18:00:38 UTC

Huh

2018-07-17 18:01:11 UTC

Those CAD files would still be very resourceful for those with the right tools and equipment though

2018-07-17 18:02:09 UTC

What is your source for info on componet regulations in SA?

2018-07-17 18:02:26 UTC

One second

2018-07-17 18:03:27 UTC

Page 6

2018-07-17 18:03:31 UTC

Right at the top

2018-07-17 18:03:57 UTC

Basically under definitions

2018-07-17 18:05:37 UTC

Further I found more info on a forum on the topic back in 2012

2018-07-17 18:06:23 UTC

Barrel needs to be registered with your license it seems

2018-07-17 18:07:32 UTC

Thanks Frederick

2018-07-17 18:08:11 UTC

Well enjoy the CAD files, for educational purposes

2018-07-17 18:08:11 UTC

Ditsem! @Frederick Bernal, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-07-17 18:09:45 UTC

Its stupidly difficult to get a gun licence now, my cousin needed a police officer to sign his form and in the police station a black officer said "why do you need a gun? your going to kill my people with it?' and tore it up.

2018-07-17 18:10:07 UTC

That is stupid

2018-07-17 18:10:35 UTC

yaman and the irony is that we all had guns and handed them over in the amnesty

2018-07-17 18:11:02 UTC

It would be interesting to know those numbers

2018-07-17 18:11:09 UTC

I imagine some people held back some

2018-07-17 18:11:50 UTC

Even here in Canada when we had 4-5 million licensed people only half opted in the new licensed system

2018-07-17 18:12:00 UTC

That was back in the 90s

2018-07-17 18:12:07 UTC

will never get them all, also i suspect that they sold alot of them to criminals or 'lost' them

2018-07-17 18:12:36 UTC

The RCMP screwed the pooch on the registry as well as half of the data got scrambled

2018-07-17 18:12:57 UTC

So there are a lot of firearms off the reserve

2018-07-17 18:13:08 UTC

They arenโ€™t being used in crimes though

2018-07-17 18:13:31 UTC

More likely to have been tucked away in SA

2018-07-17 18:13:45 UTC

Depending on the circumstances for each owner at that time

2018-07-17 18:14:02 UTC

oh no i mean the police sell the confiscated ones

2018-07-17 18:14:02 UTC

Ditsem! @The Fleeb, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-17 18:14:12 UTC

Australia had people burying a lot of guns right before their gun ban

2018-07-17 18:14:15 UTC

No doubt

2018-07-17 18:14:31 UTC

The police are generally incompetent or corrupt no matter where you go

2018-07-17 18:15:03 UTC

They canโ€™t stop firearm smuggling and generally keep what they like

2018-07-17 18:15:44 UTC

It seems the only way we can keep our guns is from a grassroots level. I know of only the Freedom Front Plus who spoke out against this outrageous gun law .

2018-07-17 18:17:11 UTC

Yeah, I mean I havenโ€™t ever seen advertisements in Canada with regard to firearm rights

2018-07-17 18:17:26 UTC

Not even in the US the few times I have visited

2018-07-17 18:17:55 UTC

But saw one very quickly when I visited SA a few years back shortly after leaving the airport heading to Pretoria

2018-07-17 18:18:15 UTC

Plenty of guns were held back by people,but i suspect many were/gets confiscated when the estate is handled as the kids wont risk taking it.

2018-07-17 18:18:24 UTC

Shame

2018-07-17 18:19:23 UTC

We have a small movement here in Canada taking de-activated firearms (AKs, FALs, etc) and restoring them to function

2018-07-17 18:20:00 UTC

It is getting harder as the authorities realized the the deactivation process was far too lax

2018-07-17 18:20:22 UTC

So they have stepped it up and did some massive butcher work to deactivate firearms now

2018-07-17 18:20:45 UTC

Still

2018-07-17 18:21:02 UTC

There are still plenty of firearms that get smuggled into Canada

2018-07-17 18:21:09 UTC

Wouldnโ€™t doubt the same happens in SA

2018-07-17 18:21:38 UTC

They cannot reliably check every sea container that enters the country

2018-07-17 18:21:58 UTC

Barely 1% are looked at here in Canada or the US

2018-07-17 18:22:26 UTC

So I can only imagine what happens at the ports elsewhere

2018-07-17 18:22:29 UTC

2018-07-17 18:22:29 UTC

Aangename kennis @CA, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 18:24:02 UTC

A bad situation all around no matter how you slice it

2018-07-17 18:24:03 UTC

Ditsem! @Frederick Bernal, you just advanced to level 3!

2018-07-17 18:29:13 UTC

2018-07-17 18:29:13 UTC

Aangename kennis @Ratel, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 18:38:15 UTC

2018-07-17 18:38:15 UTC

Aangename kennis @Calcanius, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 18:48:59 UTC

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2018-07-17 18:49:27 UTC

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2018-07-17 18:49:31 UTC

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2018-07-17 18:50:52 UTC

could be juicy

2018-07-17 18:51:05 UTC

@The Fleeb The Juiciest of steaks

2018-07-17 18:52:53 UTC

2018-07-17 18:52:53 UTC

Aangename kennis @mossie, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 19:09:55 UTC

2018-07-17 19:09:55 UTC

Aangename kennis @Umlungu Nkosi, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 19:11:13 UTC

2018-07-17 19:11:14 UTC

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2018-07-17 19:12:10 UTC

2018-07-17 19:12:10 UTC

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2018-07-17 19:12:29 UTC

2018-07-17 19:12:29 UTC

Aangename kennis @lilspecks, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 19:14:48 UTC

2018-07-17 19:14:48 UTC

Aangename kennis @TheWatchman, welkom by **Willem Petzer Live Chat** ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ

2018-07-17 19:39:11 UTC

2018-07-17 19:41:23 UTC

Hello guys

2018-07-17 19:49:30 UTC

2018-07-17 19:52:19 UTC

Vet me please ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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