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2018-10-27 21:46:51 UTC

Screw your optics, I'm going in.

2018-10-27 21:50:05 UTC

why does the liberal media hate trump

2018-10-27 21:50:26 UTC

Because he is LITERALLY a nazi.

2018-10-27 21:50:30 UTC

They are so courageous and brave

2018-10-27 21:50:54 UTC

Courageous coastal elites say mean things about hard working president

2018-10-27 21:50:58 UTC

so brave

2018-10-27 21:51:20 UTC

Paypal just removed services for Gab

2018-10-27 21:51:38 UTC

Paypal is garbage in general

2018-10-27 21:57:03 UTC

Maybe I can get them to cancel my account too

2018-10-27 21:57:16 UTC

Wonder if they'll close my line of credit as well.

2018-10-27 21:58:25 UTC

Anyone have the NPC meme ascii?

2018-10-27 22:05:33 UTC

Who knew that you could fit so much text into a tweet now lol

https://twitter.com/TL/status/1056305656720875520

2018-10-27 22:06:32 UTC

annnnnnd I'm blocked now.

2018-10-27 22:24:10 UTC

Is it just me or is the leftist fake news media radicalizing more liberals to do acts of violence

2018-10-27 22:24:21 UTC

Its very clear that most leftists are mentally ill anyway

2018-10-27 22:27:27 UTC

They're definitely sick in some way.

2018-10-27 22:29:49 UTC

I think a lot of them want to be able to look back and picture themselves the way WW2 veterans look back at what they did in combat. I call 'em WW2/Holocaust LARPers.

We just don't live in the type of world that existed back then. Back then Nazi Germany was the enemy. These days, the enemy is the left and their fuhrer is the media.

2018-10-27 22:30:23 UTC

Wasn't there some study that showed leftists had lower IQs on average

2018-10-27 22:31:05 UTC

CNN is really the enemy of the people

2018-10-27 22:31:27 UTC

Well the theory of IQ's were originally founded by leftists.

2018-10-27 22:31:32 UTC

ironic

2018-10-27 22:31:43 UTC

Probably as a means to keep blacks down, as has been historically witnessed.

2018-10-27 22:32:17 UTC

Blacks commit more crimes on average because the leftists have been supporting systematic racism for their entire existence

2018-10-27 22:34:13 UTC

When you look at the percentages of population versus the percentages of crime, it makes ya wonder what would happen if the US was populated by an 80% black population.

2018-10-27 22:34:56 UTC

Well if the democratic party didn't exist and more black republicans held points of power probably nothing would happen

2018-10-27 22:35:38 UTC

The left played the long game by shitting on minorities then becoming the party of them

2018-10-27 22:51:45 UTC

oh my

2018-10-28 01:52:26 UTC

I support Obama.

2018-10-28 01:52:34 UTC

I’m a Democrat.

2018-10-28 05:15:11 UTC

@DJMinor#3068

2018-10-28 05:15:15 UTC

@Vord#1080

2018-10-28 05:15:17 UTC
2018-10-28 05:15:25 UTC
2018-10-28 05:15:26 UTC
2018-10-28 05:15:29 UTC

What's up?

2018-10-28 05:15:41 UTC

Time to `A S S E M B L E`

2018-10-28 05:15:44 UTC

seriously.

2018-10-28 05:15:46 UTC

The enemy is upon us

2018-10-28 05:15:54 UTC

You see what's happening to Gab right now?

2018-10-28 05:15:55 UTC

what

2018-10-28 05:16:03 UTC

Cia niggers at every corner

2018-10-28 05:16:13 UTC

Gab.ai is being no-platformed by Paypal (Donations), Stripe (Billing), Joyent (Hosting), BackBlaze(Backups).

This is a leftist attack on free speech. Prepare your sleds for the slippery slope.

2018-10-28 05:16:34 UTC

i love sledding

2018-10-28 05:17:01 UTC

Unfortunately any platform that's owned by judens are subject to free speech restriction

2018-10-28 05:17:07 UTC

People think the right has gone radical, wait until the left does away with the only bastion to free speech in existence.

2018-10-28 05:17:13 UTC

Back to IRC.

2018-10-28 05:17:19 UTC

Lol I wish

2018-10-28 05:17:23 UTC

I'll go back to bbm

2018-10-28 05:17:57 UTC

so why was i pinged exactly?

2018-10-28 05:18:01 UTC

It's just so suspect all this bullshit happening before voting

2018-10-28 05:18:26 UTC

@Coe time to get your nigger ass up

2018-10-28 05:18:48 UTC

i no nigger

2018-10-28 05:19:08 UTC

It's more of a state of being than the color of your skin

2018-10-28 05:19:19 UTC

Niggers are just overwhelmingly black

2018-10-28 05:19:28 UTC

what makes me a nigger then

2018-10-28 05:19:39 UTC

Dirty smelly loud uneducated foolish

2018-10-28 05:19:50 UTC

you dont

2018-10-28 05:19:54 UTC

know me 😦

2018-10-28 05:20:06 UTC

And for that I am thankful

2018-10-28 05:20:28 UTC

ok kike i go now

2018-10-28 05:20:43 UTC

Go where you small sooty spook Sambo?

2018-10-28 05:20:52 UTC
2018-10-28 06:33:29 UTC

WHAT

2018-10-28 06:33:58 UTC

@Coe then find the PC that its on

2018-10-28 06:34:02 UTC

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2018-10-28 06:35:45 UTC

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2018-10-28 06:35:52 UTC

here is pic

2018-10-28 06:35:55 UTC

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2018-10-28 06:36:01 UTC

FULL ONE

2018-10-28 06:36:02 UTC

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2018-10-28 06:36:12 UTC

i no have rn

2018-10-28 06:36:21 UTC

when do u have then <:rempout:471736175141453825>

2018-10-28 06:36:34 UTC

talk to me in 4 weeks

2018-10-28 06:36:39 UTC

k

2018-10-28 06:59:55 UTC

hi

2018-10-28 16:07:06 UTC

Niggers assemble

2018-10-28 18:59:07 UTC

How come democrats don't understand how racist, misogynistic and xenophobic they are?

2018-10-28 19:03:55 UTC

Sometimes I have to explain to people who are openly racist that they should be voting democrat. If they really hate blacks then vote democrat...

2018-10-28 20:39:38 UTC
2018-10-28 20:39:45 UTC

Keep that nigger shit OUTTA here

2018-10-28 20:39:46 UTC

Ok?

2018-10-28 21:08:29 UTC

Exactly

2018-10-28 22:24:43 UTC

Hail Trump, Hail America, Hail Victory !!!

2018-10-29 00:17:21 UTC

Fuck Trump, Fuck Amerika, Fuck Victory.

2018-10-29 00:17:54 UTC

I hope Sand niggers and niggers race mix the white race out of existence.

2018-10-29 02:02:17 UTC

BolsoTrump team

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432587768682643480/506286623139561507/unknown.png

2018-10-29 02:43:01 UTC

@trash liberals or democrats have a higher IQ on average than conservatives.

2018-10-29 02:43:40 UTC

But I've seen it divided up like this before where people have studied it:

2018-10-29 02:44:35 UTC

Social conservative < liberal < libertarian (economic conservative)

2018-10-29 02:46:31 UTC

Social conservatives have the lowest IQs, and conservatives who are more opinionated about deregulation and the economy (basically they are libertarians) have the highest IQs

2018-10-29 02:50:01 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432587768682643480/506298636691570709/musk.png

2018-10-29 02:50:11 UTC

SUPPORT ELON MUSK! HE WILL GET SOCIALISM ON MARS!

2018-10-29 02:50:20 UTC

MARS IS THE RED PLANET FOR A REASON!

2018-10-29 02:52:09 UTC

Yeah, let's just populate a bunch of different planets and test out all these political models

2018-10-29 02:55:18 UTC

Socialism probably works well in space and in hostile environments, where the people selected for the missions don't sap all the life and resources out of their colleagues. It will take a few generations before it falls apart

2018-10-29 04:39:43 UTC

@raqdog you realize niggers are part of the problem yes

2018-10-29 04:44:47 UTC

Actually if there was Socialism on Mars it really wouldn't have any reason to fall apart since there would be no external pressures working against it

2018-10-29 04:45:27 UTC

and it's unlikely there'd be any cultural issues that would develop since it would likely have a global Martian culture develop so there really would be no reason for it to fall apart

2018-10-29 05:02:45 UTC
2018-10-29 05:03:45 UTC

@raqdog socialism can only be achieved when the people want it and the alienation of the working class gets out of control, it's in our best interests to educate the working class about socialism

2018-10-29 10:05:31 UTC

would any of you clearly understand why this society is completely fucked the way its headed? or have the comprehension level to know what happens when everyone has a piece of the pie. knowledge is a key factor when attempting to fix the complete fucked over children of earth. and crime, crime would cease to exist when everyone has money

2018-10-29 10:27:47 UTC
2018-10-29 11:33:34 UTC

@Silkiri Isolating a lot of high functioning individuals from earth and sending them to Mars would eventually result in a high functioning society, where the environment is so hostile that you have to be extremely clever to exist their. I dunno what kind of culture they would develop there. I do think socialism works well when everyone starts off nearly equal in competence and ability though. So if socialism would work anywhere, mars would be an ideal condition. Mainly because they aren't going to send a bunch of morons.

2018-10-29 11:36:53 UTC

@THE-BRIAN 10% of the population falls below an IQ and competence that allows them to be effective at even the most basic jobs. Not only can they not perform very menial task, they in all likelihood would cause more problems than solve anything. Simply giving these people money to help them is not a good solution. And what about drug addicts? Handing money to someone with a really bad drug addiction is basically killing them.

2018-10-29 11:41:14 UTC

Also, crime rates in areas where everyone is poor are low. Areas where there is a disparage of wealth, lots of poor and lots of wealthy, are where crime rates are highest. So being poor does not necessarily mean there will be crime. It's the introduction of wealth or money into poor neighborhoods that increases crime.

2018-10-29 12:06:52 UTC

@raqdog socialism does not depend on everyone having equal ability

2018-10-29 12:07:20 UTC

nor does socialism give people to unproductive parasites

2018-10-29 12:07:29 UTC

i don't think you know what's socialism

2018-10-29 12:07:53 UTC

Equal outcome

2018-10-29 12:08:33 UTC

what no, socialism nor communism has never been based on egalitarianism

2018-10-29 12:08:37 UTC

Right, you can have socialism even if there are different abilities. But it doesn't work out that well

2018-10-29 12:08:46 UTC

marx nor engels nor any other socialists are egalitarians

2018-10-29 12:09:01 UTC

your getting the wrong picture here

2018-10-29 12:09:44 UTC

egalitarianism is doomed to fail, no one advocates for it

2018-10-29 12:10:27 UTC

You are talking about equal opportunity now

2018-10-29 12:10:52 UTC

equal opportunity of education and jobs

2018-10-29 12:10:57 UTC

Egalitarian societies advocate [email protected], not outcome

2018-10-29 12:11:14 UTC

that's what I have been saying, isn't it

2018-10-29 12:11:17 UTC

Socialist societies advocate equal outcome

2018-10-29 12:11:29 UTC

only opportunity

2018-10-29 12:11:57 UTC

You asked me if I knew what socialism is, and I said "equal outcome"

2018-10-29 12:12:13 UTC

And then you said no

2018-10-29 12:12:37 UTC

Or at least that's what it seemed

2018-10-29 12:12:45 UTC

outcomes can never be equal, we only advocate for equality on the basis of opportunity

2018-10-29 12:13:32 UTC

I think the "equal outcome" your referring to is snlt

2018-10-29 12:14:45 UTC

What's snlt?

2018-10-29 12:14:45 UTC

because no socialist is egalitarian or advocates for equal outcome

2018-10-29 12:14:52 UTC

socially necessary labour time

2018-10-29 12:17:32 UTC

So you are referring to socialism as equal access to education, jobs and medicine?

2018-10-29 12:17:52 UTC

yes

2018-10-29 12:17:59 UTC

everyone should have equal access to it

2018-10-29 12:18:21 UTC

regardless of their income or social status, its a basic human right

2018-10-29 12:19:01 UTC

the right to education and healthcare is a basic human right, not another means to profit off

2018-10-29 12:19:04 UTC

Ok but what ethnic group currently out performs all others in academia?

2018-10-29 12:19:19 UTC

why are we talking about ethnic groups here?

2018-10-29 12:19:31 UTC

im saying equal access to education

2018-10-29 12:19:49 UTC

Because it's important, because this group isn't given equal access because of their ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:20:15 UTC

And they are actually thriving even more than those that are given better access because of their ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:20:32 UTC

I still have no idea why your talking about ethnicity, I'm talking about equal access to education as a means not to profit on.

2018-10-29 12:20:55 UTC

I'm not talking about different ethnic groups having better iq or genetically superior

2018-10-29 12:21:02 UTC

By subsidizing people's education with tax dollars?

2018-10-29 12:21:58 UTC

I don't really have a opinion on tax as of the moment, but yes, education should be either free or heavily subsidised because everyone has the right to it.

2018-10-29 12:22:15 UTC

Asians are thriving in academia and they need to out perform other ethnic groups in test scores and now they need to take personality test too

2018-10-29 12:22:27 UTC

Look

2018-10-29 12:22:36 UTC

why are you bringing in ethnic groups?

2018-10-29 12:22:43 UTC

do you even understand my grasp?

2018-10-29 12:22:58 UTC

We shouldn't have to. The point is it could be divided anyway. Poor, rich

2018-10-29 12:23:01 UTC

Black white

2018-10-29 12:23:10 UTC

Ugly, good looking

2018-10-29 12:23:24 UTC

It just happens to be divided by ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:23:55 UTC

What is most uneducated group in American society?

2018-10-29 12:23:55 UTC

your talking about division through ethnicity, I'm talking about class division here buddy.

2018-10-29 12:24:14 UTC

Well the way you change your class is through education

2018-10-29 12:24:18 UTC

so why did we bring in ethnic groups again?

2018-10-29 12:24:38 UTC

@raqdog and that's why education should be universal and not be profited upon

2018-10-29 12:24:39 UTC

Because it's a clearly demarcated group.

2018-10-29 12:25:21 UTC

I see you mention profit again, why shouldn't someone profit off of it?

2018-10-29 12:25:32 UTC

Someone is profiting when tax dollars are used.

2018-10-29 12:25:40 UTC

because education is a basic human right, it should not be profited upon.

2018-10-29 12:26:09 UTC

water and basic services are essential, would you like someone to cut corners and profit off it, at the expense of the community?

2018-10-29 12:26:23 UTC

If anything, they profit even more, reduce their efficiency, because they are absolved of risk due to government backing, and they students will be worse off

2018-10-29 12:27:35 UTC

how so?

2018-10-29 12:27:55 UTC

Water isn't typically owned by the government. And when it is (read cadillac desert) it is a disaster.

2018-10-29 12:28:21 UTC

the USSR made education compulsory and heavily subsidised for people up to 22 years old, look how many distinguished mathematicians, physicians and scientists they produced

2018-10-29 12:29:15 UTC

If the institution needs to put perform its competitors, it will continue to improve itself. If it's told it will be subsidizing whether or not it's good at what it does or not, they are absolved of risk and absolved of needing to out perform eachother

2018-10-29 12:29:47 UTC

Yeah but you are talking about a country that idolizes the United States

2018-10-29 12:30:50 UTC

They collapsed during the Cold War because of communism, it did not incentivize their factories and government backed industries to do anything but pass preplanned inspections

2018-10-29 12:30:57 UTC

why do we need to have competition in regards to education? Education isn't a business or a commodity here, it should be a human right

2018-10-29 12:31:34 UTC

@raqdog the USSR never achieved communism, communism is the transition from socialism to a moneyless, classless and stateless society, and the USSR was none of it.

2018-10-29 12:31:37 UTC

They would get everything working for a brief period during inspections and then let it all fail the rest of the time. Human beings are incentive driven creatures. We do the bare minimum to keep up

2018-10-29 12:32:09 UTC

It's good to think about education like a right, I like that

2018-10-29 12:32:37 UTC

But it is like a commodity, it's an investment in yourself

2018-10-29 12:32:41 UTC

the collapse of the Soviet Union had nothing to do with incentives, the piece-shake economic model depdned on periods of rapid growth

2018-10-29 12:33:06 UTC

in the 60s there was a huge debate on how to reform the economy

2018-10-29 12:33:21 UTC

I think the only thing that kept the Soviet Union going so long was incentive to compete with America

2018-10-29 12:33:28 UTC

no

2018-10-29 12:33:30 UTC

They were so heavily propagandized

2018-10-29 12:33:52 UTC

it would have still lived, the Soviets never hated the American people, they only hated the bureaucracy

2018-10-29 12:34:01 UTC

Gorbachev ruined everything

2018-10-29 12:34:08 UTC

They didn't hate us, they envied us

2018-10-29 12:34:21 UTC

the military-industrial complex fell under the hands of the oligarchs

2018-10-29 12:34:24 UTC

They wanted to be as successful

2018-10-29 12:34:45 UTC

I don't think that's the case

2018-10-29 12:35:03 UTC

but still, the achievements of the USSR under socialism was impressive

2018-10-29 12:35:19 UTC

if they didn't do some drastic and wrong decisions the Union would have still lived.

2018-10-29 12:35:30 UTC

Yeah, it's a good business model, I just don't think it's as good as capitalism

2018-10-29 12:35:57 UTC

dude

2018-10-29 12:36:00 UTC

Capitalism is a good business model because it will quickly process and expunge other business models that don't work

2018-10-29 12:36:15 UTC

socialism isn't even a alternative to capitalism

2018-10-29 12:36:23 UTC

it's the transition from capitalism

2018-10-29 12:36:45 UTC

have you ever read about historical dialectics?

2018-10-29 12:37:17 UTC

Oh I see, well I would still think that medicine and education should be allowed to function under a capitalist umbrella

2018-10-29 12:37:45 UTC

we have seen "how well" the education and medicine industry does in the USA under capitalism

2018-10-29 12:37:59 UTC

Student loan debts are out of control currently because the education systems are socializing

2018-10-29 12:38:08 UTC

what?

2018-10-29 12:38:38 UTC

Government subsidizing and risk absolving

2018-10-29 12:38:53 UTC

Affirmative action

2018-10-29 12:39:39 UTC

Programs that try provide access to education for those that can't obtain it otherwise are doing the exact opposite of what was intended.

2018-10-29 12:40:28 UTC

even with the government cutting subsidies private schools are still more expensive imo, the USA isn't a good example of nationalisation, a good example of how nationalisation worked would be the Gotha program

2018-10-29 12:41:08 UTC

plus college costs keep rising due to inflation and them charging too much for it.

2018-10-29 12:43:42 UTC

The tuition rises because of government involvement. I don't think more government involvement would help. Schools need to demonstrate that they are in need of the money and this leads to Soviet Union type mess where you start to have teachers faking test score, attendance records, and just ruining the kids

2018-10-29 12:44:24 UTC

The incentive needs to lie on just being a good school because the school down the street is also trying to be the best

2018-10-29 12:45:22 UTC

The incentive shouldn't be, pass 50
Kids with an A and get a bonus at the end of the year. Or demonstrate that all your kids can pass this standardized test and the government will give you a grant for next year

2018-10-29 12:46:15 UTC

The kids get passed along in this process, failing as they go, thinking that something is wrong with the system now and not them

2018-10-29 12:46:41 UTC

But they aren't taught it's the school system, they are told its republicans or it's their race, or their class

2018-10-29 12:46:58 UTC

what? The Soviet school system was one of the best in the world lol, even with some level of corruption. Where could you possibly find a nation devastated by WW1 and a civil war, yet by the 40th anniversary of the Russian Revolution launch the first satellite into space.

2018-10-29 12:47:07 UTC

idk about how grading in the USA works, so yea.

2018-10-29 12:47:57 UTC

but in my country, government schools are one of the best, their free until tertiary education.

2018-10-29 12:48:00 UTC

Ok, the soviets were smart. But the problem is, they were smart about the wrong things when they became adults.

2018-10-29 12:48:13 UTC

became adults?

2018-10-29 12:48:28 UTC

what?

2018-10-29 12:49:18 UTC

I'd say the typical Soviet Union citizen was not incentivized enough to contribute anything worth while

2018-10-29 12:49:54 UTC

Take a distribution of Americans and soviets and yes, you will have some high performing and low performing individuals on as outliers

2018-10-29 12:50:09 UTC

what no, they had every incentive to work. Its a common misconception that under socialism there's no incentives, which is compeletiy false.

2018-10-29 12:50:13 UTC

The majority of the population though needs incentive to produce

2018-10-29 12:50:24 UTC

the collapse of the SU had nothing to do with incentives

2018-10-29 12:50:35 UTC

I think it's all about incentive

2018-10-29 12:51:03 UTC

Think about it like this, this is a bit of a rabbit hole:

2018-10-29 12:51:25 UTC

no it isn't, it's poor leadership and wrong economic planning by the Politburo, and the collapse of the Union was further exasperated by a certain Gorbachev

2018-10-29 12:52:31 UTC

In the effort to make an artificially intelligent robot. The hardest hurdle to first overcome is to get the machine to even recognize objects

2018-10-29 12:52:57 UTC

The whole world is just one big object to the machine, it can't distinguish anything

2018-10-29 12:53:58 UTC

Because first, before it can distinguish an object, it needs to filter out what's not important

2018-10-29 12:54:50 UTC

And similar to this the way AI is being constructed, the majority of our circuitry is not actually reading what's going on in the world, it's trying to filter it out

2018-10-29 12:56:21 UTC

These filters mean that we have to have a goal in mind to even make sense of the world when we get out of bed. For instance, you don't see the world completely when you hop out of bed, you'd go insane and wouldn't even be able to move. All you see are your slippers and an alarm clock

2018-10-29 12:57:21 UTC

It's a bit of a rabbits hole like I said, but if you follow this chain of logic a bit more, you realize how goal oriented someone needs to be to function at all.

2018-10-29 12:58:38 UTC

i understand your example, but incentivisation had nothing to do with the collapse or the SU, I alr explained the reasons why it collapsed

2018-10-29 12:58:41 UTC

Goal oriented may not translate completely to incentive. But we build a whole narrative for ourselves based on these models we choose, socialism or capitalism

2018-10-29 12:59:09 UTC

did you know that workers are actually more incentivised under socialism than capitalism?

2018-10-29 12:59:24 UTC

this again is directly related to the theory of socially necessary labour time

2018-10-29 12:59:52 UTC

Yeah explain that. You get snlt and it's like a currency?

2018-10-29 13:00:10 UTC

it's a false narrative that the profit motive is what defined capitalism, under a capitalist system the profit motive only benefits the bourgeois and not the workers

2018-10-29 13:00:37 UTC

Well

2018-10-29 13:01:10 UTC

socially necessary labour time is the amount of labour (in labour hours) a worker puts into his work

2018-10-29 13:02:34 UTC

I thought this version of socialism only applied to education and medicine. How do you rope workers into it?

2018-10-29 13:03:54 UTC

no, wtf

2018-10-29 13:04:00 UTC

education and medicine are just examples

2018-10-29 13:04:25 UTC

under socialism

2018-10-29 13:04:36 UTC

I think your on the wrong page, my friend

2018-10-29 13:04:57 UTC

Yeah I don't get it. Is it like social security?

2018-10-29 13:05:45 UTC

Are all snlt equal? If you are a janitor or a high level official?

2018-10-29 13:06:07 UTC

no obviously, it depends on their profession

2018-10-29 13:06:21 UTC

but the snlt is only temporary

2018-10-29 13:06:30 UTC

under socialism we would have achieved post scarcity

2018-10-29 13:06:40 UTC

so there's no need for wage labour or wages or money in general

2018-10-29 13:09:46 UTC

Can we ever erradicate scarcity though. Isn't it just relative. You'd think the USA was full of people at the poverty line. But that line is always adjusting itself

2018-10-29 13:10:17 UTC

Those poor people all have iPhones, clean water, flat screen TVs

2018-10-29 13:11:25 UTC

eradicate scarcity? Yes, in a few centuries to thousands of years, depending on the rythhemic system of innovation. How many people in the USA are homeless, unemployed, can't afford education or healthcare again?

2018-10-29 13:11:56 UTC

Lol it is not physically possible to eradicate scarcity. Do you live in an infinite universe?

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