Screw your optics, I'm going in.

why does the liberal media hate trump

Because he is LITERALLY a nazi.

They are so courageous and brave

Courageous coastal elites say mean things about hard working president

so brave

Paypal just removed services for Gab

Paypal is garbage in general

Maybe I can get them to cancel my account too

Wonder if they'll close my line of credit as well.

Anyone have the NPC meme ascii?

Who knew that you could fit so much text into a tweet now lol

https://twitter.com/TL/status/1056305656720875520

annnnnnd I'm blocked now.

Is it just me or is the leftist fake news media radicalizing more liberals to do acts of violence

Its very clear that most leftists are mentally ill anyway

They're definitely sick in some way.

I think a lot of them want to be able to look back and picture themselves the way WW2 veterans look back at what they did in combat. I call 'em WW2/Holocaust LARPers.

We just don't live in the type of world that existed back then. Back then Nazi Germany was the enemy. These days, the enemy is the left and their fuhrer is the media.

Wasn't there some study that showed leftists had lower IQs on average

CNN is really the enemy of the people

Well the theory of IQ's were originally founded by leftists.

ironic

Probably as a means to keep blacks down, as has been historically witnessed.

Blacks commit more crimes on average because the leftists have been supporting systematic racism for their entire existence

When you look at the percentages of population versus the percentages of crime, it makes ya wonder what would happen if the US was populated by an 80% black population.

Well if the democratic party didn't exist and more black republicans held points of power probably nothing would happen

The left played the long game by shitting on minorities then becoming the party of them

oh my

I support Obama.

I’m a Democrat.

@DJMinor#3068

@Vord#1080

@trash

@DM ForKindWords (Awooo Gang)

@Coe

What's up?

Time to `A S S E M B L E`

seriously.

The enemy is upon us

You see what's happening to Gab right now?

what

Cia niggers at every corner

Gab.ai is being no-platformed by Paypal (Donations), Stripe (Billing), Joyent (Hosting), BackBlaze(Backups).

This is a leftist attack on free speech. Prepare your sleds for the slippery slope.

i love sledding

Unfortunately any platform that's owned by judens are subject to free speech restriction

People think the right has gone radical, wait until the left does away with the only bastion to free speech in existence.

Back to IRC.

Lol I wish

I'll go back to bbm

so why was i pinged exactly?

It's just so suspect all this bullshit happening before voting

@Coe time to get your nigger ass up

i no nigger

It's more of a state of being than the color of your skin

Niggers are just overwhelmingly black

what makes me a nigger then

Dirty smelly loud uneducated foolish

you dont

know me 😦

And for that I am thankful

ok kike i go now

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@Coe

WHAT

@Coe then find the PC that its on

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Niggers assemble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74gx0v5ZJzw

How come democrats don't understand how racist, misogynistic and xenophobic they are?

Sometimes I have to explain to people who are openly racist that they should be voting democrat. If they really hate blacks then vote democrat...

@raqdog

Keep that nigger shit OUTTA here

Ok?

Exactly

Hail Trump, Hail America, Hail Victory !!!

Fuck Trump, Fuck Amerika, Fuck Victory.

I hope Sand niggers and niggers race mix the white race out of existence.

BolsoTrump team

@trash liberals or democrats have a higher IQ on average than conservatives.

But I've seen it divided up like this before where people have studied it:

Social conservative < liberal < libertarian (economic conservative)

Social conservatives have the lowest IQs, and conservatives who are more opinionated about deregulation and the economy (basically they are libertarians) have the highest IQs

SUPPORT ELON MUSK! HE WILL GET SOCIALISM ON MARS!

MARS IS THE RED PLANET FOR A REASON!

Yeah, let's just populate a bunch of different planets and test out all these political models

Socialism probably works well in space and in hostile environments, where the people selected for the missions don't sap all the life and resources out of their colleagues. It will take a few generations before it falls apart

@raqdog you realize niggers are part of the problem yes

Actually if there was Socialism on Mars it really wouldn't have any reason to fall apart since there would be no external pressures working against it

and it's unlikely there'd be any cultural issues that would develop since it would likely have a global Martian culture develop so there really would be no reason for it to fall apart

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@raqdog socialism can only be achieved when the people want it and the alienation of the working class gets out of control, it's in our best interests to educate the working class about socialism

would any of you clearly understand why this society is completely fucked the way its headed? or have the comprehension level to know what happens when everyone has a piece of the pie. knowledge is a key factor when attempting to fix the complete fucked over children of earth. and crime, crime would cease to exist when everyone has money

@THE-BRIAN?

@Silkiri Isolating a lot of high functioning individuals from earth and sending them to Mars would eventually result in a high functioning society, where the environment is so hostile that you have to be extremely clever to exist their. I dunno what kind of culture they would develop there. I do think socialism works well when everyone starts off nearly equal in competence and ability though. So if socialism would work anywhere, mars would be an ideal condition. Mainly because they aren't going to send a bunch of morons.

@THE-BRIAN 10% of the population falls below an IQ and competence that allows them to be effective at even the most basic jobs. Not only can they not perform very menial task, they in all likelihood would cause more problems than solve anything. Simply giving these people money to help them is not a good solution. And what about drug addicts? Handing money to someone with a really bad drug addiction is basically killing them.

Also, crime rates in areas where everyone is poor are low. Areas where there is a disparage of wealth, lots of poor and lots of wealthy, are where crime rates are highest. So being poor does not necessarily mean there will be crime. It's the introduction of wealth or money into poor neighborhoods that increases crime.

@raqdog socialism does not depend on everyone having equal ability

nor does socialism give people to unproductive parasites

i don't think you know what's socialism

Equal outcome

what no, socialism nor communism has never been based on egalitarianism

Right, you can have socialism even if there are different abilities. But it doesn't work out that well

marx nor engels nor any other socialists are egalitarians

your getting the wrong picture here

egalitarianism is doomed to fail, no one advocates for it

You are talking about equal opportunity now

equal opportunity of education and jobs

Egalitarian societies advocate equal@opportunity, not outcome

that's what I have been saying, isn't it

Socialist societies advocate equal outcome

only opportunity

You asked me if I knew what socialism is, and I said "equal outcome"

And then you said no

Or at least that's what it seemed

outcomes can never be equal, we only advocate for equality on the basis of opportunity

I think the "equal outcome" your referring to is snlt

What's snlt?

because no socialist is egalitarian or advocates for equal outcome

socially necessary labour time

So you are referring to socialism as equal access to education, jobs and medicine?

yes

everyone should have equal access to it

regardless of their income or social status, its a basic human right

the right to education and healthcare is a basic human right, not another means to profit off

Ok but what ethnic group currently out performs all others in academia?

why are we talking about ethnic groups here?

im saying equal access to education

Because it's important, because this group isn't given equal access because of their ethnicity

And they are actually thriving even more than those that are given better access because of their ethnicity

I still have no idea why your talking about ethnicity, I'm talking about equal access to education as a means not to profit on.

I'm not talking about different ethnic groups having better iq or genetically superior

By subsidizing people's education with tax dollars?

I don't really have a opinion on tax as of the moment, but yes, education should be either free or heavily subsidised because everyone has the right to it.

Asians are thriving in academia and they need to out perform other ethnic groups in test scores and now they need to take personality test too

Look

why are you bringing in ethnic groups?

do you even understand my grasp?

We shouldn't have to. The point is it could be divided anyway. Poor, rich

Black white

Ugly, good looking

It just happens to be divided by ethnicity

What is most uneducated group in American society?

your talking about division through ethnicity, I'm talking about class division here buddy.

Well the way you change your class is through education

so why did we bring in ethnic groups again?

@raqdog and that's why education should be universal and not be profited upon

Because it's a clearly demarcated group.

I see you mention profit again, why shouldn't someone profit off of it?

Someone is profiting when tax dollars are used.

because education is a basic human right, it should not be profited upon.

water and basic services are essential, would you like someone to cut corners and profit off it, at the expense of the community?

If anything, they profit even more, reduce their efficiency, because they are absolved of risk due to government backing, and they students will be worse off

how so?

Water isn't typically owned by the government. And when it is (read cadillac desert) it is a disaster.

the USSR made education compulsory and heavily subsidised for people up to 22 years old, look how many distinguished mathematicians, physicians and scientists they produced

If the institution needs to put perform its competitors, it will continue to improve itself. If it's told it will be subsidizing whether or not it's good at what it does or not, they are absolved of risk and absolved of needing to out perform eachother

Yeah but you are talking about a country that idolizes the United States

They collapsed during the Cold War because of communism, it did not incentivize their factories and government backed industries to do anything but pass preplanned inspections

why do we need to have competition in regards to education? Education isn't a business or a commodity here, it should be a human right

@raqdog the USSR never achieved communism, communism is the transition from socialism to a moneyless, classless and stateless society, and the USSR was none of it.

They would get everything working for a brief period during inspections and then let it all fail the rest of the time. Human beings are incentive driven creatures. We do the bare minimum to keep up

It's good to think about education like a right, I like that

But it is like a commodity, it's an investment in yourself

the collapse of the Soviet Union had nothing to do with incentives, the piece-shake economic model depdned on periods of rapid growth

in the 60s there was a huge debate on how to reform the economy

I think the only thing that kept the Soviet Union going so long was incentive to compete with America

no

They were so heavily propagandized

it would have still lived, the Soviets never hated the American people, they only hated the bureaucracy

Gorbachev ruined everything

They didn't hate us, they envied us

the military-industrial complex fell under the hands of the oligarchs

They wanted to be as successful

I don't think that's the case

but still, the achievements of the USSR under socialism was impressive

if they didn't do some drastic and wrong decisions the Union would have still lived.

Yeah, it's a good business model, I just don't think it's as good as capitalism

dude

Capitalism is a good business model because it will quickly process and expunge other business models that don't work

socialism isn't even a alternative to capitalism

it's the transition from capitalism

have you ever read about historical dialectics?

Oh I see, well I would still think that medicine and education should be allowed to function under a capitalist umbrella

we have seen "how well" the education and medicine industry does in the USA under capitalism

Student loan debts are out of control currently because the education systems are socializing

what?

Government subsidizing and risk absolving

Affirmative action

Programs that try provide access to education for those that can't obtain it otherwise are doing the exact opposite of what was intended.

even with the government cutting subsidies private schools are still more expensive imo, the USA isn't a good example of nationalisation, a good example of how nationalisation worked would be the Gotha program

plus college costs keep rising due to inflation and them charging too much for it.

The tuition rises because of government involvement. I don't think more government involvement would help. Schools need to demonstrate that they are in need of the money and this leads to Soviet Union type mess where you start to have teachers faking test score, attendance records, and just ruining the kids

The incentive needs to lie on just being a good school because the school down the street is also trying to be the best

The incentive shouldn't be, pass 50
Kids with an A and get a bonus at the end of the year. Or demonstrate that all your kids can pass this standardized test and the government will give you a grant for next year

The kids get passed along in this process, failing as they go, thinking that something is wrong with the system now and not them

But they aren't taught it's the school system, they are told its republicans or it's their race, or their class

what? The Soviet school system was one of the best in the world lol, even with some level of corruption. Where could you possibly find a nation devastated by WW1 and a civil war, yet by the 40th anniversary of the Russian Revolution launch the first satellite into space.

idk about how grading in the USA works, so yea.

but in my country, government schools are one of the best, their free until tertiary education.

Ok, the soviets were smart. But the problem is, they were smart about the wrong things when they became adults.

became adults?

what?

I'd say the typical Soviet Union citizen was not incentivized enough to contribute anything worth while

Take a distribution of Americans and soviets and yes, you will have some high performing and low performing individuals on as outliers

what no, they had every incentive to work. Its a common misconception that under socialism there's no incentives, which is compeletiy false.

The majority of the population though needs incentive to produce

the collapse of the SU had nothing to do with incentives

I think it's all about incentive

Think about it like this, this is a bit of a rabbit hole:

no it isn't, it's poor leadership and wrong economic planning by the Politburo, and the collapse of the Union was further exasperated by a certain Gorbachev

In the effort to make an artificially intelligent robot. The hardest hurdle to first overcome is to get the machine to even recognize objects

The whole world is just one big object to the machine, it can't distinguish anything

Because first, before it can distinguish an object, it needs to filter out what's not important

And similar to this the way AI is being constructed, the majority of our circuitry is not actually reading what's going on in the world, it's trying to filter it out

These filters mean that we have to have a goal in mind to even make sense of the world when we get out of bed. For instance, you don't see the world completely when you hop out of bed, you'd go insane and wouldn't even be able to move. All you see are your slippers and an alarm clock

It's a bit of a rabbits hole like I said, but if you follow this chain of logic a bit more, you realize how goal oriented someone needs to be to function at all.

i understand your example, but incentivisation had nothing to do with the collapse or the SU, I alr explained the reasons why it collapsed

Goal oriented may not translate completely to incentive. But we build a whole narrative for ourselves based on these models we choose, socialism or capitalism

did you know that workers are actually more incentivised under socialism than capitalism?

this again is directly related to the theory of socially necessary labour time

Yeah explain that. You get snlt and it's like a currency?

it's a false narrative that the profit motive is what defined capitalism, under a capitalist system the profit motive only benefits the bourgeois and not the workers

Well

socially necessary labour time is the amount of labour (in labour hours) a worker puts into his work

I thought this version of socialism only applied to education and medicine. How do you rope workers into it?

no, wtf

education and medicine are just examples

under socialism

I think your on the wrong page, my friend

Yeah I don't get it. Is it like social security?

Are all snlt equal? If you are a janitor or a high level official?

no obviously, it depends on their profession

but the snlt is only temporary

under socialism we would have achieved post scarcity

so there's no need for wage labour or wages or money in general

Can we ever erradicate scarcity though. Isn't it just relative. You'd think the USA was full of people at the poverty line. But that line is always adjusting itself

Those poor people all have iPhones, clean water, flat screen TVs

eradicate scarcity? Yes, in a few centuries to thousands of years, depending on the rythhemic system of innovation. How many people in the USA are homeless, unemployed, can't afford education or healthcare again?

Lol it is not physically possible to eradicate scarcity. Do you live in an infinite universe?