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ie not chineese steel
a girl like MissAlice or KateeLife are fucking destroyed from birth
they literally cannot go anywhere without people offering them everything
there is no realistic way taht they can grow up as normal people
other than their fathers isolating them from the world
or there existing an aristocracy of affluent men that are at the same sexual market value as them that whisks them away(edited)
otherwise they just are totally destroyed
it's an extremely disgenic system
so we either need middle age tier patriarchy
and I'd choose aristocracy, though patriarchy has more longevity
but tbh I'm gunna be in the aristocracy so I might be biased
I started thinking about this because Salty said "I hate hte idea of aristocracy because I am blue collar"
and I thought "well hey bud don't get ahead of yourself let's think about this for a second and not be biased"
aristocracy is de facto ruling class with power over regions
barons, counts, etc
we have gold calf tier aristocracy
in the form of celebrities, who really actualy have no power and can't enforce anything except through meme magic
also these celebrity aristocrats are way different from aristocrats of the past
since they're global aristocrats, they have no attatchment to their local area, whereas in the past aristocrats were bound to the land and interacted with a small county
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on a totally unrelated note
I was once told on /pol/ that natsoc is overly idealistic and not practical
but it's silly because the /pol/ alternative is ancap
I think that ancap is the most idealistic, and natsoc is hte most pragmatic
after all there has never been an ancap society, but the only natsoc society went from the poorest nation in the world to almost conquering every nation on earth simultaneously in eight years
protip: they would have easily done it if they hadn't been unlucky
1. Japan went full retard without consulting germany
2. The electromagnetic naval mine was about to be deployed in the english channel by the germans but an airplane transporting the prototype was shot down and england caught wind of how it worked
How do you know you'd be part of the elite in an aristocratic society when you're likely not part of the current one ? Do you just envision the value structures being different, and in what way ?
That's my vision. Aristocrats uphold Neo-Victorian values because they feel that it sets them above the commoner. The commoner, in turn, naturally follows the lead of the Aristocracy.
@Pathos - NY nah I meant I'll be an aristocrat because I am going to make a lot of money and I will need to wear nice clothes most of the time
that puts me in the aristocracy in my book, white collar instead of blue collar
@Nikephoros nah you've got it wrong
people follow aristocrats because if they don't they get killed
true aristocrats that is
at least that's historical precedent
I'd be interested to know what the historical analogue is
but I don't think it's simply along white / blue collar lines
I almost feel like anyone in STEM in modern times is already out of the running
like my vision of the modern equivalent are the connecticut families who send 2 douchebag kids to play lax at duke, get econ / business degrees, then work in investment banking
the type of money and status they have is ( like it or not ) on an entirely different level from somebody who works at google for 20 years
I played rugby and didn't go to Duke either. #fratlivesmatter
Even AnonCon is getting sick of kike shit
ipv4 is a fucking meme
ipv6 master race
I'm not saying live and let live
I'm saying hold your fire for now
I would like to see a day sometime in the future where Woes is told to drop the homo apology stuff or face consequences.
but that's in like
10 years or more
at the moment I would be willing to ally with Hotep or Commies or literally anyone that is anti globalist and anti immigration
What i meant by the sword analogy was
some guy who comes up to me and says "Gee whizz convo, you're sure not creating an IMPERIVM EVROPA by allying with communists."
is equivalent to a guy saying
"Gee whizz, why are you cutting your 700lb slab of metal? You should sharpen it so it can be closer to your ideal IMMEDIATELY."
"put a handle on the 700lb piece of metal, that way it will IMMEDIATELY be like a sword"
this is a hypothetical though
I do not foresee any situation where I might want to ally with a communist
but if there was a situation I would take it up in a heartbeat, we're fighting for not only our survival but the existance of order and life in the universe
Yeah. I agree.
I guess I was shifting to a more ideal future time in which our people were already strong again. Even then someone will occasionally be born with a physical defect or something. And at that point, it I think it might be wise to use a case by case strategy. For instance, maybe there's a guy born with a gimp arm, but is a badass still with only one arm, then he's probably making the group as a whole better off and maybe should not be kicked out. That said, there are probably things which can get someone booted regardless of their otherwise good qualities, for instance committing unsanctioned violence against another member of the tribe.
not mine but pretty good
"libruls r da REAL warmongers" is babby's first redpill
they're retards that believe what they're told because they get cummies if they do
What I think is interesting is the discussion on whether there is a "ghost in the machine" orchestrating all of this for some sort of goal
or whether it's just a bunch of jews kvetching forever with no logic or goal, and they will jew themselves over and end all life in the universe because they're too jewish to realize what they're doing.
I think its a mix of both kvetching and goals
Thanks! I worked really hard on it
"Then during my civic nationalist phase when I was becoming interested in Governance structures I recognized there was something that the American constitution was lacking, that being there is no head and thus no assurance of the veracity of your legal system. The united states legislative system lacked something identified by the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI when he established a modern state in Sicily with a normative and legislative body, which relied upon Roman law, as opposed to canon law which presented him with a problem, who governs the magistrates? Since in the US and eventually all democratically governed judiciaries Judges, rather than obeying and upholding precedent and taking a traditional interpretation of the law they will eventually be vulnerable to corruption and selective interpretation of legislation to the point where the legislative branch might as well not exist at all as the judicial branch is effectively and functionally sovereign. The only way of avoiding this is to have the hereditary element at the head of your state for their anti corruption element, managing the veracity of the judiciary is a traditional responsibility and seems to be the only method geared towards the judiciary performing the function they are ...
intended to perform. Sicily had a loose legal precedence of primarily byzantine origin with some Norman centralization and Henry created a legal system of weights and balances like the american system. However in order to maintain the traditional interpretation of the constitution he made the Judicial branch of government subservient to the crown, thereby maintaining the veracity of the judicial system as the monarch had no incentive to corrupt his own legal system and remove his subjects access to justice and he could even be trusted to appoint a deputy to ensure the validity of the judiciary and his deputy would be subservient to the monarch in much the same way a chairman owner can appoint a CEO to run day to day affairs with minimal oversight, the point is the competent and meritocratically appointed position of CEO can never do the same job as the owner, the owner must ensure the work of the CEO, who’s descendants will never inherit their position, is being done; the CEO can’t do this themselves, and has no natural incentive to do so. A CEO has the incentive to go to board meetings due to his salary but the owner/shareholders must keep him in line and ensure his work is done; this is because they either nominally or substantively believe the business to be theirs because they own it and any vicissitudes of the business are felt by them personally. Weather or not the monarchy is limited, civil or absolute a monarch is either nominally or substantively the owner of the country, weather or not you wish to denote them with that honour in name or a first among equals policy to the monarch the principle is the same." - Ælle Sussex, Forum anlgorum media
Have you read "The Nigger Question"? It's a great essay by Thomas Carlyle
what server is this in?
skeletonkang is obnoxious
how can you save the white race if you accelerate white genocide?
@Campin' Carl I think the CF critique raises a few fundamental questions to consider.
The first one that comes to mind is rooted in the Collectivist ethos vs. Individualist ethos.
If we accept CF's observations as valid and agree that these are, in fact, negative traits, then it becomes very difficult to reconcile the bad apples within a Collectivist framework.
Assuming that our ideology is rooted in a Collectivist ethos, the only way to maintain ideological "purity" when addressing the "bad apples" is to establish a narrower definition of our collective and who its constituents include.
I think that most people who try to address this issue typically opt for this "maintain ideological purity" approach. As of now, the debate over what definition is best is still on-going; in the meantime, everyone usually sticks with broad default of "White Gentiles".
This seemed like an appropriate place for this.
@Roscoe Living in 2017 and not listening to ExAmericanus the day it comes out=SMDHFAMYBITO
Assault Doge lol
What is a good policy on the WQ?
I was in the gym and I saw an attractive girl, and later I saw her with a nu-male looking guy.
I personally think that it is objectionable to try and get into a relationship with a girl who is already spoken for.
This is because I've been cheated on in the past.
However, I know for a fact that I am now a better person after having been cheated on, and I know for a fact that I would be a better influence on the attractive girl than the nu-male guy is.
Doctor Mayhem need not respond.
Unless you talk to her you don't even know if random guy is actually her bf
no he was
i simplified the story
but I'm talking about in general here
White Shariah is a meme but MGTOW is a joke
there has to be a reasonable middleground
My middle ground would be still talking to her and waiting until she inevitably leaves metroboy and then you can hook up
>not hold hands
wwe tlc is the only acceptable punishment for thottism
**SERIOUS QUESTION: HOW SAFE IS VAPING?**
I swear its worse for you than smoking
I picked up a vape for a bit to replace my 1 pack every 2 mo habit of smoking camel wides and it tastes like utter shit
its like inhaling car exhaust
i thought its plus side was the lack of nicotine and all the chemicals in cigarettes but the downside is looking like a fag and occasional explosions
>lack of nicotine
no that would be pointless that's the drug
oh then it's the other way around
I thought the upside was not smoking paper
but tbh I prefer that now to this
its fucking horrible
vaping is shit
My answer to your WQ is this: if a chick is gonna cheat on a dude, she's gonna cheat on a dude. When I was a degenerate I used to think it was hilarious when I found out a chick I'd hooked up with had a boyfriend. My attitude was "well, might as well be with me" Now it just makes me want to start Mayhem posting.
I want to become Mayhem
okay, well, the kind of expereinces with women that make you hate them even more indiscriminately than I do don't come without a lot of baggage, so I don't recommend it
but if you insist:
> pull chick
> smash chick
> take pictures
> with her phone
> send them to bf with captions like "LOL TOP KEK /pol/ STRIEKES AGAINSZ LOLZ"
> after you finish tell her she has 30 seconds to leave before you start doing WWE moves on her
^ Everything above is satire, NSA no bully, etc
WWE TLC PUNISHMENT FOR THOTTISM
you KNOW I'm the cream of the crop
RANDY SAVAGE NATIONALISM #ShariaRight
SNAP INTO SHARIA
bring out randy savage
It's good. Have you read any Hegel ?
Spengler can be thought of as a synthesis of hegels philosophical history, normal cyclical view, and Nietzsche as applied to history. The first is just that Hegel divided history into 3 high level groups
One is like observational history
Like Xenophon etc.
Accounting over time
Don't remember second
Third is philosophical
Which is that the zeitgeist of an era needs to be taken into account
The individuals philosophies and psychologies
Philosophical history for Hegel, is the true way. Hegel maintains that with philosophical history the historian must bracket his own preconceptions and go and find the overall sense and the driving ideas out of the very matter of the history considered.
Iirc the term "Geist" itself can be traced to him
At least as used in a sociological context
I see where Spengler was influence by Hegel in regards to history and culture.
I'll have to check him out. Any particular book you would recommened?
Philosophy of History
Philosophy of Right
Reason in History
I leave you with one final black pill. I need a break.
for those who spend time on MPC
here it is
in all its glory
finally, holy shit pleasureman, how long does it take you
They're left of fucking Rush Limbaugh.
There was recently a thread on 8pol advocating a brand name change
they recommended changing from "white nationalist" to "white survivalist"
and instead of trying to get a white nation, we should talk about white survival
which gives us a victim status that causes a shitload of cognitive dissonance
There's so much going on here that we don't understand
Maybe an avalanche of constant conflicting misinformation is the plan.
Monday morning: pissed to go to work, glad I have 88 mins to enjoy though.
4D chess is codeword for anti-white
How do we end the chad elements of our movement that are degenerate. Like having lots of premartical sex outside of serious relationships
We get rid of buttmad incel betas an then no one has a problem anymore.
I keed, I keed.
I mean the only thing 'wrong' with chadism is sleeping with people left and right, some people even regardless of race
We have to lead women by example. If we go around fucking every girl we can women think its normal and do the same
thats part of why we have a thot problem
Is the true hyperborean a Chad/Autsie hybrid?
its the Ubermensch
v v ubermensch
I figured it out guise! Trump's betrayal is a ploy to get the alt-right to spend time among the left spreading dank memes thereby converting the left to indentitarianism! 1488D underwater Risk!
@SledgeHammer tell chads to screw only hot girls so there's little point to sleeping around. Quality over quantity
I mean, if you have no other goals in life then trying to secure hotter girls is better than nothing. That's more challenging than bedding any slag on tinder.
One first prize trophy is better than multiple participation ones.
"Wow you screwed a bunch of fatties. Way to go bro" said sarcastically
Ive been doing that. The problem is when they score a hot chick they do the same they do to the fattie, pump and dump
Night guys. I have to split. Early day tomorrow.
@Evan Z. The Left will be forever scared as long as Trump is in power, if he turns 360 degrees and walks away from his bullshit, he MIGHT just be salvagable, but I would not think this likely considering what we have seen.
They are getting more comfy because they know he's fucking up
They'll be smug again, but unlike us, they'll oversmug and lose any form of foresight, they'll be blinded by their own ego like we have often seen when things go not our way but rather a kike'd way.
Yes we had our whitepill, we deserved it. We fought hard to get a man who we thought was the best choice, considering our options we did the right thing... But now is the time for hard truths to settle in and while we should not be blackpilled outright, we must be skeptical as always. Trump was never /ourguy/, he was but a bastion we prepped up to try and fix America, he is certainly not a win win situation and we must fight on to ensure that we still have a chance.
the only cure for black pills is networking in IRL. creating your local AR group and growing membership. then partnering with other AR groups across the country.
the only cure for black pills is networking in IRL. creating your local AR group and growing membership. then partnering with other AR groups across the country.
We already know our godfathers: it's Nietzsche, Evola, Jünger, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Eliade, and so many scientist-philosophers whose obscure Idealist works I'd love to share some time.
The Aryan aristocratic philosophy is Idealism. We oppose the destruction of man into linear materialism. We reunite: inversion as expansion, the line back into the circle, as spherical inversion.
So Millennial Woes and Greg Johnson had a conversation with a Hapa and Nigger T. The Chong criticized Greg Johnson for sticking to “emotional arguments” instead of “moral arguments.”
I immediately thought of this retort, aimed at Nigger.
"Do you like Jazz? I would imagine that you like Miles Davis or Thelonious Monk. These individuals have a racial proclivity to making that kind of music, but what's more, they have been raised in a century old culture that has instilled in them a deep understanding of the concepts and feelings that they write music about.
My argument for the white ethnostate goes like this: What if I told you that every time you listen to jazz, you were forced to listen to a jazz song performed by a 4'7" Korean man named Jung-Hoo Lauquan Shei. And, what's more, one hundred years after you die, all black jazz in the form of Miles Davis or Thelonious Monk will be forever gone, and impossible ever to listen to again. Would you be happy about this? Would you welcome it? Would you prepared to take action against it?
Because to me, as a white heterosexual man, I know for a fact that I will never, ever, walk into a London Pub and sit down at the grimy stool and order a pint, and turn to my side, and be prepared to talk about esoteric british cultural values with a fucking Nigger. I wouldn't be prepared to do that if one out of every TWO people I met in this fashion was a nigger. Or one out of every one million.
This is an explicitly white activity that no non-white should even be permitted to undertake.
And, what's worse, in one hundred years, there won't be ANY british people capable of partaking of this culture because the fucking sand niggers are going to level their culture.
So you can ask me why I make "moral arguments" in favor of a white ethnostate. That's fine.
But I am telling you, right now. If you and your non-white friends continue to push white genocide, the saxon will awake, and you're dead."
who said that
Wews I'm guessing
i said that
Ah I see
For some reason that comfy pub dream always hits home for me
Probably one of the first things you lose when you become multiracial
Is having the same socialization patterns as people around you
Which is also one of the most devastating
I imagine it contributes a lot to the way people approach drinking now
Pubs will close in England because Muds don't drink
Think about that
I really really don't like migrants
@Convo that was a really good argument in regards to emotion versus morality, will be stealing that
So Styx has a 4D chess narrative.
1. Trump's most ardent supporters don't actually support him, they hate him, they just want the wall and no wars.
2. Trumps most ardent opponents don't hate his policies, they just hate him for who he is and how he looks and sounds.
3. The 4D chess is betraying his ardent supporters knowing he can win their vote back in a heartbeat if he makes moves towards the policies they want. In the meantime he's trying to get the opponents to become supporters.
I call horse shit
How do yall feel about this recent Volkwagen commercial?
My feelings about it are mixed. On the one hand, I was pleasantly surprised to see a normal--arguably even traditional--white family having a brood of kids early on in life.
on the hand >sex on TV
On the other hand, I don't really think its all that appropriate for daytime regular TV b/c children and what not.
With that in mind, I almost forgot that there are already suggestive and even obscene ads/programs on these channels already.
So it begs the question: is this ad just as bad as what's already mainstream?
I'm inclined to say that it isn't.
Probs better than the normal nikie
Yeah, I think so too.
A large white family and well thats how kids are made so...
Thinking back to my early childhood, I don't think I would've understood what was going on.
Anyways, I wonder if this is an indication that media companies--or at least ad firms--are changing direction on the anti-white themes.
No its white people buy Cars
And they like moneys
Well obviously! That's the entire point goal of advertising a product.
But there's always secondary themes involved in the messaging. The preceding trends have all pointed towards anti-white sentiments, but now some companies may be rethinking that approach.
Whether or not the ad firms genuinely care about the message they send in their ads, it can be interpreted as an indication of where these firms forecast society's tastes are headed.
i.e.: we might be able to better understand the approximate sentiments of our society if we take cues from people who analyze these things professionally
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