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2017-09-04 03:30:37 UTC

you're not blackpilling we just learn and move on that's all

2017-09-04 03:30:42 UTC

Did you correct them, tell them the truth?

2017-09-04 03:30:46 UTC

The normies around here unironically call both sides terrorists.

2017-09-04 03:31:06 UTC

I correct them as much as I can.

2017-09-04 03:31:08 UTC

not come out as a-r, just ask something like "why shouldn't everyone have a right to give speeches, even nazis?"

2017-09-04 03:31:16 UTC

@northern_confederate think you're correct. This is just the beginning.

2017-09-04 03:31:44 UTC

That's normal. They call both sides terrorists because they think everyone can get along at some point or that they can sit everything out.

2017-09-04 03:31:54 UTC

you say it alienated people, but that is good. alienating people in BOTH directions help us. People being uncaring normies is what hurts us

2017-09-04 03:32:21 UTC

Don't know if we all have the same goals though.

2017-09-04 03:32:46 UTC

We're never going to win elections, we're never going to win popularity contests. But as shit gets worse, as we're proven right in everything we've been saying re: race & white genocide, they'll know who to turn to

2017-09-04 03:33:08 UTC

@Zorost what?

2017-09-04 03:33:09 UTC

when forty thousand violent communists are willing to initiate violence on a bunch of off-white free speech activists and shout nahtsee our best rally is the one we don't have

2017-09-04 03:33:19 UTC

or they'll say 'screw the a-r, i'll start my own white nationaist group.' which is good too

2017-09-04 03:33:56 UTC

Hmmm?

2017-09-04 03:34:08 UTC

in reality, and people wont want to hear this

2017-09-04 03:34:21 UTC

antifa will always have a massive advantage in these kind of conventional rallies/protests

2017-09-04 03:34:35 UTC

they have been doing this shit for a long time and they have the backing of large left wing institutions

2017-09-04 03:34:37 UTC

artificial advantage created by the state but yes

2017-09-04 03:34:40 UTC

we do not have their experience or resources

2017-09-04 03:34:47 UTC

advantage is advantage

2017-09-04 03:34:54 UTC

I still hold out hope that it's good for us in the long run, it did at the very least send the message loud and clear that the alt right is real and that we have numbers. That we're not just basement dwellers online.

2017-09-04 03:35:14 UTC

yeah the underlying conditions don't matter if you're being stabbed (or railroaded for defending yourself against being stabbed)

2017-09-04 03:35:24 UTC

we should rethink our policy of how/where we hold rallies, it has to be in jurisdicitons with people sympathetic to us

2017-09-04 03:35:28 UTC

or at least to law and order

2017-09-04 03:35:35 UTC

doing it in a place like cville will lead to the same results

2017-09-04 03:35:36 UTC

a-r has had rallies before, successfully. cville was a fluke due to state gov going full-on anarcho-tyranny

2017-09-04 03:36:18 UTC

best thing you can do is to get a contingent to go to the next MAGA rally and redpill folks there

2017-09-04 03:36:21 UTC

I still believe the narrative is more important than the actual "protests" on the street. The right in America never goes on the street. They really are a silent majority. Use the evidence and culture we have to win. Everyone on the right hates the left, but especially protesters. Let's go that route.

2017-09-04 03:36:36 UTC

The joos power is mainly media.

2017-09-04 03:36:54 UTC

"right in America never goes on the street."
The right in america has lost for 100 years straight

2017-09-04 03:36:56 UTC

I live not far from where Heimbach has had rallies before, the population here isn't immediately turned away, but they weren't particularly impressed with the TWP or the NSM.

2017-09-04 03:37:17 UTC

This stuff doesn't work.

2017-09-04 03:37:17 UTC

@northern_confederate absolutely agreed

2017-09-04 03:37:39 UTC

if we're doing any kind of irl shit it needs to piggyback off more "legitimate" groups

2017-09-04 03:37:55 UTC

@AnonMindset the right does not go on the street for a reason

2017-09-04 03:37:56 UTC

Most people here were annoyed that Nazis and Antifa were making the downtown inaccessible.

2017-09-04 03:38:00 UTC

the best thing TWP does is when they go do volunteer work for local huwhyte communities in poor areas

2017-09-04 03:38:09 UTC

rightists don't have the same desire to attention whore and cause disorder that rallies do

2017-09-04 03:38:12 UTC

I agree. Much more of that is needed.

2017-09-04 03:38:13 UTC

rallies/protests

2017-09-04 03:38:29 UTC

We do have our fair share of attention whores though.

2017-09-04 03:38:40 UTC

Some of whom I like, but still. Cantwell and Baked Alaska come to mind.

2017-09-04 03:38:45 UTC

while most rightists would agree with our right to rallies, not nearly as many would participate

2017-09-04 03:38:52 UTC

We can look to other movements that have won. Front face in the suit, scary guys who aren't "connected" to the suits.

2017-09-04 03:39:37 UTC

Many examples in history to follow.

2017-09-04 03:39:46 UTC

we cannot simply hijack exactly the same stategies used by the left

2017-09-04 03:39:49 UTC

because we are not the left

2017-09-04 03:39:53 UTC

its not the same situation historically

2017-09-04 03:39:57 UTC

We can though

2017-09-04 03:40:05 UTC

also there was that one guy who remade the entire political landscape in 18 months

2017-09-04 03:40:29 UTC

Left, right, Christian, muslim, communist long March, etc. Whatever works.

2017-09-04 03:40:33 UTC

yeah but i heard he was a cuck for israel severus /s

2017-09-04 03:40:45 UTC

but it doesnt work

2017-09-04 03:40:46 UTC

*spins dreidel*

2017-09-04 03:40:47 UTC

is what im getting at

2017-09-04 03:41:06 UTC

yeah we need more white blocs as spencer called them

2017-09-04 03:41:08 UTC

IE/TWP does it

2017-09-04 03:41:11 UTC

if this sort of street protest stuff worked wn 1.0 would have been successful

2017-09-04 03:41:13 UTC

help poor whites and shit

2017-09-04 03:41:27 UTC

Nah, scare the elite

2017-09-04 03:41:30 UTC

the best thing to do would be to subvert existing orgs

2017-09-04 03:41:34 UTC

preferably right leaning ones

2017-09-04 03:41:40 UTC

Shit shit down. Nigs do this all the time.

2017-09-04 03:41:43 UTC

Enoch used to harp on the fact that street activism generally takes place *after* you control the institutions and he was right

2017-09-04 03:41:44 UTC

what works is changing peoples' minds, part of that is spectacle. Part of that is looking strong, not weak. Logical debate at other peoples' rallies only goes so far. its good, but its not enough

2017-09-04 03:41:49 UTC

this is what leftists do that we could actually do ourselves

2017-09-04 03:41:51 UTC

the elite are plenty scared. see the daily stormer

2017-09-04 03:42:02 UTC

leftists did not get to do massive street protests until after they had subverted orgs

2017-09-04 03:42:03 UTC

not before

2017-09-04 03:42:04 UTC

We did scare the elite. Cville absolutely frightened Jews all over the country. Probably the best part about it.

2017-09-04 03:42:10 UTC

that fear happened after cville, was obviously a direct reaction to it

2017-09-04 03:42:14 UTC

Paradigm has shifted. We're in tribal politics cycles of history now

2017-09-04 03:42:18 UTC

scaring the elite does not mean you won

2017-09-04 03:42:25 UTC

daily reminder that jews are literally constantly frightened

2017-09-04 03:42:32 UTC

its part of winning

2017-09-04 03:42:36 UTC

yeah jews become hysterical over everything

2017-09-04 03:42:43 UTC

its not a high bar to get them to freak out

2017-09-04 03:42:46 UTC

VC if any of y'all want to

2017-09-04 03:42:46 UTC

but it's up to us to rile them up and show normies

2017-09-04 03:42:51 UTC

that is their weakness, combined w/ not being able to see double standards in their favor.

2017-09-04 03:43:02 UTC

Only the torch really was scary to them

2017-09-04 03:43:05 UTC
2017-09-04 03:43:06 UTC

if you think we are winning right now, i dont know what to tell you, we are not in any better position after cville

2017-09-04 03:43:13 UTC

It's been a long time since people have marched by the hundreds shouting something like "Jews will not replace us!"

2017-09-04 03:43:15 UTC

it would be worse right now if antifa hadnt shot themselves in the footy

2017-09-04 03:43:17 UTC

if there was one virile German man left in a cage they'd all be scared of him

2017-09-04 03:43:23 UTC

Clearly they see how things are changing.

2017-09-04 03:43:25 UTC

Come out of nowhere, male statements, back into the night like smoke

2017-09-04 03:43:27 UTC

@NSJW well we know what works and what doesn't now though

2017-09-04 03:43:30 UTC

I'll be in VC soon

2017-09-04 03:43:37 UTC

KKKool

2017-09-04 03:44:52 UTC

cville was a huge advantage to us. Not fair to say "if antifa hadn't shot themselves in foot" because much of the reason they shot themselves in the foot was due to being enraged after cville.

2017-09-04 03:45:01 UTC

Ok, let's see if we all agree. What works and what doesn't? I say the torch rally was perfect. Speeches in park at left city, not so much.

2017-09-04 03:45:36 UTC

The torch rally was great.

2017-09-04 03:45:39 UTC

I loved it.

2017-09-04 03:45:54 UTC

Scared all the elite

2017-09-04 03:46:02 UTC

only bad thing about cville was anarcho-tyranny, which still ended up working in our favor but at too high of a cost.

2017-09-04 03:46:11 UTC

Torch rallies need to be a staple of our movement going forward.

2017-09-04 03:46:40 UTC

Have you talked to anybody who isn't alt right about Cville? @Zorost

2017-09-04 03:46:45 UTC

@Zorost the AnTyr was after they were alerted.

2017-09-04 03:46:56 UTC

I think they look really cool, but people associate them with KKK, but they associate everything we do with the KKK

2017-09-04 03:47:01 UTC

so moot point?

2017-09-04 03:47:05 UTC

yes, i've talked to a bunch of people who referred to cville

2017-09-04 03:47:44 UTC

Ah shit, my phone isn't charged, scratch thay

2017-09-04 03:47:52 UTC

Sorry, Vic.

2017-09-04 03:47:57 UTC

I think that torch rallies are something worth making our own. We can do it. The KKK is in the past, we can make it an alt-right thing.

2017-09-04 03:48:07 UTC

people who thought we were nazis before still thought we were nazis but worse. some people were horrified about violation of 1A, some were sympathetic

2017-09-04 03:48:55 UTC

well it's going to be devisive no matter what, just need to figure out which angle is the best to work

2017-09-04 03:49:09 UTC

Let's get gallup on the job and poll some normies

2017-09-04 03:49:17 UTC

its supposed to be divisive, thats why we get media coverage

2017-09-04 03:49:18 UTC

i will be open and say if you dont think cville was a disaster you are not thinking clearly

2017-09-04 03:49:36 UTC

i know it isnt what a lot of people want to hear, but its true

2017-09-04 03:49:42 UTC

i'm thinking just the opposite about anyone who thinks it wasn't a good thing

2017-09-04 03:49:47 UTC

antifa was already fucking themselves before cville

2017-09-04 03:49:50 UTC

https://my.mixtape.moe/nmqmpf.pdf GETCHYER STAWMAH HEAH, DAILY STAWMAH

2017-09-04 03:49:56 UTC

I think a lot of people who were open to us at first have backed away from us completely. Because of the car accident. The event would've been so much easier to defend if that hadn't happened.

2017-09-04 03:49:57 UTC

but cville fucked that narrative up a bit

2017-09-04 03:50:24 UTC

like, what did we achieve that was worth several of our people being arrested

2017-09-04 03:50:28 UTC

please tell me that

2017-09-04 03:50:40 UTC

it wasn't worth the arrests, i've already said that.

2017-09-04 03:50:41 UTC

And dozens of our guys losing their jobs.

2017-09-04 03:50:46 UTC

^^^

2017-09-04 03:50:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354111033276891136/download.jpg

2017-09-04 03:50:50 UTC

Young strong white men are our only group we're trying to recruit. The opinions of others means nothing to us, that should be the general narrative. Recruit white men and show strength.

2017-09-04 03:51:28 UTC

well guess what dude young strong white men dont want to join a group that ends up with people getting jailed and losing jobs to no good advantage

2017-09-04 03:51:31 UTC

i will tell you that

2017-09-04 03:51:39 UTC

We all see what's coming, so bring our men together.

2017-09-04 03:51:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354111271337066516/nmqmpf_1.pdf

2017-09-04 03:52:04 UTC

pdf version of the daily stormer for this week

2017-09-04 03:52:37 UTC

pdf version looks cool af

2017-09-04 03:53:07 UTC

the trouble with being against public rallies with some risk is we aren't left with much else we can do RL that gets our message out. Torchlit rallies are great optics, but there aren't any optics if the media isn't there or doesn't care enough to play our footage of the events.

2017-09-04 03:54:03 UTC

The Stormer will live on, if only in sneakernet.

2017-09-04 03:54:03 UTC

If we'd packed it in after the torchlit rally, would the media have bothered covering it?

2017-09-04 03:54:17 UTC

Why not get both? Flash rallies that garner public attention, and can't be antifa'ed

2017-09-04 03:54:19 UTC

As soon as Spencer, Baked Alaska, Anglin, Enoch, etc. posts about it the media will cover it.

2017-09-04 03:54:19 UTC

Punished Stormer was the best header yet

2017-09-04 03:54:31 UTC

I doubt we can do antifa proof flash rallies

2017-09-04 03:54:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354111968933576704/Oczi3VY.png

2017-09-04 03:54:45 UTC

yeah, unless they were pretty small

2017-09-04 03:54:47 UTC

Our vetting isn't anything like that thorough

2017-09-04 03:56:03 UTC

We'll have to try.

2017-09-04 03:56:05 UTC

i'd bet far more of our guys have regular jobs than antifa, so its a lot harder to set something up on short notice too. Can't just say "be at X in 24 hours!"

2017-09-04 03:56:36 UTC

Everything we do is going to be called nazi. Just the fact that people showed up is a victory. This shit is going to be messy. Stop kidding yourselves, tpdb are going to make it way more messy than we want it even.

2017-09-04 03:56:43 UTC

they're based around colleges and have nothing better to do with their time so they simply have to hop on the subway

2017-09-04 03:56:45 UTC

The Stormer does look good in PDF, man Anglin knows his aesthetics

2017-09-04 03:56:51 UTC

Maybe do fun cool artistic flash mob type stuff with 30 or less people that are thought provoking

2017-09-04 03:57:10 UTC

Oh no, if I don't have a few weeks to plan it's hard for me, even then things come up.

2017-09-04 03:57:42 UTC

Bship:
Sounds like something local groups could do, wouldn't need a national mobilization

2017-09-04 03:58:09 UTC

Yeah, just a suggestion if national rallies aren't working

2017-09-04 03:58:38 UTC

we need a happy medium, a city that will enforce the law so we can hold a rally while masses of antifa jabber at the cops & media covers the whole circus, while we get talking points out

2017-09-04 03:59:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354113131225546764/fashy_fox.jpg

2017-09-04 03:59:14 UTC

I wonder if these people ever realize I am lampooing the shit out of them.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354113151098290176/20170903_235836.png

2017-09-04 03:59:15 UTC

It's hard to get talking points out when antifa drowns out the speakers.

2017-09-04 03:59:34 UTC

Shifting culture and building connections is the biggest thing, rallies can help with both those things, but they have downsides too.

2017-09-04 04:00:04 UTC

media gives interviews, just have to make sure its not cantwell ranting about guns & violence 😉

2017-09-04 04:00:15 UTC

Nice one NSA

2017-09-04 04:00:24 UTC

Media is going to try to sound bite you

2017-09-04 04:00:29 UTC

IMO we should always have at least two of our own guys recording every time the media interviews anything.

2017-09-04 04:00:41 UTC

And the real interview should be spread as broadly as possible

2017-09-04 04:01:01 UTC

They will ask you loaded questions, and berate you while you try to talk, then ask another loaded question

2017-09-04 04:01:02 UTC

thats why only leaders should talk to them, that is part of their job if they want to do RL events

2017-09-04 04:01:16 UTC

Yeah you need to be a bigger brain nibba

2017-09-04 04:01:27 UTC

It's not below the media to cut what you said into sounding as bad as it can possibly be.

2017-09-04 04:01:54 UTC

Below? You mean main goal haha

2017-09-04 04:01:54 UTC

you ignore them, & just give talking points. Relisten to "Follow the White Rabbit" early episodes for tips

2017-09-04 04:02:30 UTC

Also, let's leave rally planning to more experienced people. I've seen a lot of people say this, but it's great advice. We can't let inexperienced people plan huge rallies like this.

2017-09-04 04:02:40 UTC

before he started going on about nazi moon bases and ancient aryan space technology 😉

2017-09-04 04:03:00 UTC

@Zorost I mean it's fine if you ar savvy but it's probably better to leave it to others

2017-09-04 04:03:13 UTC

I actually want to hear about the aryan space tech first tbh

2017-09-04 04:03:14 UTC

Do we have many experienced people? We've done one rally.

2017-09-04 04:03:23 UTC

speakers?

2017-09-04 04:03:27 UTC

a handful

2017-09-04 04:03:34 UTC

People love moonbases. Don't dis the Aryian Nazi Moonbase speak.

2017-09-04 04:03:35 UTC

well more than a handful

2017-09-04 04:03:36 UTC

We have guys who are good at organizing large groups of people, surely.

2017-09-04 04:03:45 UTC

enoch, spencer, already have experience dealing w/ media.

2017-09-04 04:03:58 UTC

Yeah, we have speakers, I meant organizers.

2017-09-04 04:04:04 UTC

I really don't know

2017-09-04 04:04:34 UTC

you'd think the nazi moonbse would have some experts on how to plan events, and send them down to help out

2017-09-04 04:04:42 UTC

From what I've heard, there were clear signs that Kessler was struggling to keep this rally from falling apart.

2017-09-04 04:05:00 UTC

When did Enoch deal with the media? I know Spencer is good at it but I didn't know Enoch had any kind of coverage other than stuff relating to his doxing.

2017-09-04 04:05:22 UTC

It is a huge undertaking, I can't really fault him for having problems.

2017-09-04 04:05:26 UTC

Did you hear with that guy who interviewed him for that book?

2017-09-04 04:05:26 UTC

When he lied about being Mike Peinovich.

2017-09-04 04:05:37 UTC

Enrich that pol fam.

2017-09-04 04:05:45 UTC

No, I didn't.

2017-09-04 04:06:06 UTC

Pretty good, he's a bit of an attack dog; but he knows what to do if he stays calm

2017-09-04 04:06:43 UTC

Are you talking about the guy who kept mispronouncing shoah?

2017-09-04 04:07:14 UTC

Imagine being this big of a cuck.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/354115165253533696/DI2ex8HVwAAdtWg.jpg

2017-09-04 04:07:50 UTC

It surprises me a little that these people seem to actually think they are bringing the country together by their politics...

2017-09-04 04:08:28 UTC

that's right, fresh elliot rodger pics

2017-09-04 04:08:58 UTC

isnt venti a happa

2017-09-04 04:09:37 UTC

quadroon

2017-09-04 04:10:09 UTC

@Hector yeah that guy

2017-09-04 04:10:25 UTC

The daily uh sowa

2017-09-04 04:10:30 UTC

BLord:
I don't think they believe they are doing anything beyond whatever their bosses tell them to. Their mission is to get their guy elected so they get the patronage, to support the party elites for the same reason

2017-09-04 04:11:46 UTC

Did that guys' book get published yet?

2017-09-04 04:13:57 UTC

That's probably all it is with them. Some normies do really think that way though.

2017-09-04 04:16:10 UTC

she's a nigger

2017-09-04 04:16:20 UTC

there was a reporter that read thru EVERY wikileak from Dem party, and said what really struck him was how not a single email was about what was good or right, for people or the nation. It was all raw exercise of power for the sake of personal & sub-group benefit

2017-09-04 04:17:08 UTC

dems are da real heartless

2017-09-04 04:17:22 UTC

RE: antifa, they straight up recruit homeless kids

2017-09-04 04:17:28 UTC

provide them with shelter and food

2017-09-04 04:17:36 UTC

I'm shocked. I don't know what I'll do with that shocking revelation. I'm really amazed. They campaign on being good and right. Why would they lie? I... I don't even know what to do with this revelation...

2017-09-04 04:17:38 UTC

they use homeless charities as cover

2017-09-04 04:17:41 UTC

yep dregs with nothing to lose

2017-09-04 04:17:43 UTC

for recruiting

2017-09-04 04:17:50 UTC

they also groom kids basically

2017-09-04 04:18:02 UTC

like you can tell with a lot of these antifa they are homeless, or rich kids slumming

2017-09-04 04:18:17 UTC

so, those people are the dregs

2017-09-04 04:18:29 UTC

but in the background, the people coordinating this shit, they have years of experience with it

2017-09-04 04:18:33 UTC

and we arent anywhere near there yet

2017-09-04 04:18:35 UTC

Nazis used to do charity work, but it made them popular with the wider community. I think part of the reason charity is more regulated now is because the anti-fa types don't want to face the competition they did in the 20s and 30s, as Nazis are clearly better at real charity work.

2017-09-04 04:18:41 UTC

their eyes in many cases are evil, soulless. I'm not usually into loony shit, but the eyes truly are windows to the soul

2017-09-04 04:18:44 UTC

read about the shit that leftists did in the 70s and 80s

2017-09-04 04:18:47 UTC

they are still around

2017-09-04 04:18:52 UTC

they are going to do it again

2017-09-04 04:18:54 UTC

be prepared

2017-09-04 04:19:22 UTC

1770s and 1780s? That was bad...

2017-09-04 04:19:29 UTC

They never change, leftists.

2017-09-04 04:19:36 UTC

But conservativism keeps moving left.

2017-09-04 04:20:05 UTC

0 affect in his eyes, even when he gets excited about something

2017-09-04 04:20:18 UTC

Look at what the weather underground and black panthers did in the 60s 70s

2017-09-04 04:21:02 UTC

there isa great book on that, read a short synopsis recently. they were going fucking apeshit, and almost no one remembers it now

2017-09-04 04:21:28 UTC

I have that book

2017-09-04 04:21:34 UTC

What did they do in that case. I'm pretty familiar with the Republican\Marxist overthrow schema and they're following it to the letter.

2017-09-04 04:21:40 UTC

We all seem to agree that charity work is a crucial part of our future, but how are we gonna start? What part of the country do we target?

2017-09-04 04:21:53 UTC

Seems like nothing in the 60s and 70s could be as bad as what they did in their many other horrible playgrounds of death.

2017-09-04 04:22:11 UTC

"Days of Rage"

2017-09-04 04:22:14 UTC

I just mean for recent tactics

2017-09-04 04:22:45 UTC

They really havn't changed much in the last few hundred years, though the groups and terms change to suit the situation.

2017-09-04 04:22:46 UTC

stuff we can steal (non-violence stuff ofc)

2017-09-04 04:23:05 UTC

great synopsis of "days of rage"

2017-09-04 04:23:40 UTC

Now those fucking assholes hold positions as professors

2017-09-04 04:23:57 UTC

at 5

2017-09-04 04:23:59 UTC

least*

2017-09-04 04:24:05 UTC

Looks like the days of rage failed pretty badly

2017-09-04 04:24:09 UTC

B Clinton pardoned several to get the puerto rican vote in NYC for HRC

2017-09-04 04:24:29 UTC

Day of the Bowl when?

2017-09-04 04:24:30 UTC

I mean, compared to the actual marxist revolutions, and the one upcoming

2017-09-04 04:24:36 UTC

i've wondered about that. massive amounts of violence, yet it was largely covered up. did it fail, or did it succeed? What effects did it have on those familiar with it?

2017-09-04 04:25:09 UTC

Twitter is a fucking gold mine of tears

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