@OlenkaWagner how much time you spent on that?

Sorry, I been on a rant as there is this incentived aggression to create a race war between Afrikaners and The Ruling Coalitions incl EFF. There are false flag instigators on both sides while the Silent Majority just want to get on and have a fruitfull live. There is a global reinterpretation of Governments and their roles. Personally I believe Politicians are a unrequired skillset and not productive profession. Proffesional ass kissers and manipulators all following the Parties Agenda. 🤔

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@MrE911 yes agreed, politics of this sort are just a means to justify sin and inequity. Politicians indeed are unnecessary, you have a rule of law, and it shouldn't change, consistency is logical. You can't go changing what's considered right and wrong, that's where selfishness corrupts. It's the commies that are the problem creating all this kak and exploiting the people.

Welcome to the server @OlenkaWagner 😄

Its the corrupt politicians with specific agendas amending laws and policies to benefeit political funders to ensure political control. At all cost. ZanuPF 2000's and anc 2018's.

Corrupt = commies

They don't believe in rule of law that's applied equal... They don't really believe people are equal, hence why there always should be some enemy, some oppressor, some bourgeois

Corruption is a two way street. Without the greedy enabling and temptation that would be a difficult practice. With my app that only requires a smart device biometrics and a registration via Home Affairs/SAPO. Will make nomitaing and elections free and fair. Apply for the position not the party. Have multiples candidates run campaign with platforms provided equally to campaign, debate and deliver Mission Statement. All targets will be public record all accountability can be civilian if qualified or civil. No more political Krone appointments. Decentralise, incentivise and unbiased. Everything the ancient democracy isnt.

@Sheamus Purple > Blue😂

@Darkseid lol not as long opfor and dildos exist, need the appropriate authorities to keep them in check lol

@Sheamus The Left spends more time fighting itself anyway. They're their own worst enemy...The right disagrees with each other but we never try to silence each other...They do that😂

@Darkseid yes yes, but larger in number because of deceptions. Need people to wake up, all those dildos need to move over to the bb gun shooters lol

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le cafard

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@dorito_queef 💕 dat picachu thumbnail

I'm a simple guy, I see a furry, I shoot

😐

Furries are people too

Ah who am I kidding, safeties off bois

@Kuzon Embers 👍 😎

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I would probably say that I'm on the right side hey? The blue collar side?

😝 that's a little bit "Truthiness" meaning not exactly true

Then I would be half and half leaning towards blue from the purple side

Depends on what's right.

In this age I'd say economic right

Yeah no it's just a broad assumption but the purple definitely defines me...consider myself libertarian

libertarian-right

But if there is good law and order then blue

Yeah no I don't like the state, they're the reason things are so messed up in the first place😂

Jip

Messed up

-People should be treated equally in the sense they are provided with equal opportunity to make their way in life. They shouldn't be given equality of outcome.
-People should have the freedom to say almost whatever they wish, no matter how offensive. This excludes death threats and defamation.
-People should be allowed to own private and personal property.
-People should be able to love who they want, regardless of gender, so long as it's consensual and so long sexual activities don't happen until over the age of 18 years old.

Basically my view point

Would also add, don't expect free stuff and get rid of as much taxes as possible

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Ok sure

Yes

😅

But according to leftists that makes me a nazi<:kek:482910570211966986>

Haha hey you're Right😁

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@Darkseid isn't that "so long as" just as good as a but? 🤔 making a rule is one thing, making exceptions to a rule only opens up the possibility to exploit the exception for more exceptions using the same reasons.

@Sheamus it is a but, "But it has to be consensual, and legal age" there really isn't much to work with there not really much that can be exploited

@Darkseid lol you obviously missing the current argument that kids and animals can consent... I am not saying they understand what they consent to, but the argument is being made, and sadly more and more it is being embraced, after all, "love is love". That is the problem with supporting any forms of degeneracy and making an exception to the rule.

@Sheamus I don't think kids and animals can be 18🤔

Children can't consent because they're still developing the cognitive abilities to be able to fully understand consent and what it entails

@Darkseid yes, the age restriction is a rule of law that's non negotiable that needs to be enforced with authority and that rule of law protects children, and yet we see liberal attempts to negotiate around it. The argument that kids can consent is demonstrated with the fact that they can consent to gender transitions and what not inspite of many of them regretting it when they grow up.

And then there is the argument the that the degenerates attracted to same sex are born that way which is not a fact, it is a choice because the whole human genome has been mapped and no gene responsible for sexuality been uncovered as its a moral decision, but anyways they argue they are unfairly discriminated against because they are born that way and that love is love it shouldn't matter.

So those inclined to beastiality and pedophilia now also claim they are just born to be attracted to animals and children. So as it is currently going, the same arguments used to justify one form of degeneracy is being used to justify another, and if you allow one but not the other, that becomes inconsistent and leaves your argument wide open for actual discrimination and intolerance. How can you say you don't discriminate and you oppose discrimination, and you are tolerant when you clearly are inconsistent with your own claims?

This is the problem. This is why we reasonable folk actually oppose homosexuality, because that argument becomes really difficult to win in a reasonable and consistent fashion. You give them a hand and they take your whole arm.

@Cal agreed, and yet the argument is made and practiced where kids consent to things that destroy them. Why this even allowed us beyond me.

We're not homophobic, our reasons to oppose homosexuality is not some irrational fear, it's very much rational, it's the degeneracy that we fear encouraging that leads to further degeneracy. I've converted a few degenerates to become regenerate with reason, but you okes empowering them with your liberalism and tolerance for degeneracy makes it increasingly difficult by defending them. So would be nice if you guys can realize the principle that is the problem, instead of arguing over the context.

@Sheamus "Show me an instance of natural cross species breeding and how it was successful"...It does not occur in any form in nature without human involvement and the new species is always sterile, therefore the argument that people born with a natural attraction animals is redundant. I just disproved that without sacrificing my stance. Secondly countless amounts of research has already proven that children cannot in fact consent, hell they need parental permission for school trips and medication, forget about relationships. The phrasing is clear and concise, do you, but it has to be legal age and consensual. That is not a but, it's not an opening it is a requirement.

It's quite a simple concept, what you want to do with another consenting adult is up to you, but it has to be a consenting adult. Not an animal, not a child. Adult (18)

I do not agree with gender transition before puberty or hell even before age 18...our brains aren't even fully matured until after age 18 so I think transitioning before then can be dangerous and confusing..

@Darkseid it's not like i disagree with you lol, but whether you like it or not, other people are using the same rhetoric that justifies one thing, to justify another. The legal age of consent drops lower and lower, whether it be sexual or not, even with meds and other things, if and when children can demonstrate that they understand something, they can consent to it, for example if a boy can understand the feeling of being a girl, then he can consent to being a transgender, and then there are laws i think in Canada, where if you as a parent dont allow it, you get into trouble and your child is removed from your care.

"The new law stipulates that children’s services workers and family judges take into consideration a child’s “race, ancestry, place of origin, color, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression” when determining whether or not a child will remain with their parents or foster families.

Michael Couteau, the Minister of Child and Family Services, and who initially introduced the bill, said that he would consider parental discrimination on the basis of gender identity “a form of abuse when a child identifies as one way and a caregiver is saying ‘No, you need to do this differently.'”

He continued, “If it’s abuse, and if it’s within the definition, a child can be removed from that environment and placed into protection where the abuse stops.”

The new law now requires a parent or legal guardian to “direct the child or young person’s education and upbringing in accordance with the child’s or young person’s creed, community identity and cultural identity.”

The Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act of 2017 has also deleted previously established verbiage that allowed parents and guardians to raise their children under their own umbrella of faith."

These are things actually happening, now observe the slippery slope this becomes and where it leads to... It's not just about your virtues here... But anyways, shit's happening and you have to question how these things come to be

@ZombieQueen Agreed, this is a load of crap honestly. It's not based on reason and logic, it's based on feelings

@Sheamus Hence why the legal age is Adulthood...consent might drop but adulthood is always 18, fuck them perverts

@Darkseid I prefer adulthood as well, but it irks me that this is becoming legally possible in a way that we cannot legally take action against it without criminalizing outselves

and doing so on a political platform that only represents a meager 1% that wont even oppose it

@Sheamus Like wits getting rid of the mr/mrs prefixes...I hate it too, what you want to call yourself is your prerogative, but don't expect me to obliged or not question it

@Darkseid Yeah thats not as sensitive as child and animal abuse though, shit like that i can laugh off and I will still use the appropriate pronouns and prefixes whether they like it or not, when it becomes a law I will make a fuss about it, and if i have to go to prison for not agreeing to it, so be it.

@Sheamus Give it time, it will be...But the further they swing left...the hard the right swings back...that's just history, which reminds me, SA is long overdue for pushback

@Darkseid yup

"Everything flows out and in; everything has its tides;
all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests
in everything; the measure of the swing to the right,
is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm
compensates"

@Sheamus It's amazing how no one ever considers the pendulum effect...It's not like theres countless instances in history where the "oppressed" eventually seize power and become the oppressors to eventually lose it and become the oppressed again...It's like humanity is retarded

A simple concept...when you have power..don't be a dick, but nope first thing people do, is be a dick making kak for future generations down the line

@Darkseid That is exactly it, that is why the golden rule exists, to cancel out the pendulum swing. To escape the swing toward Pain, by the process of Neutralization before mentioned. By rising on to the higher plane of the Ego, much of the experience that comes to those dwelling on the lower plane is avoided and escaped. To get to that higher place, one must have principles, and also why we look up to a higher being, a higher conscious, not let ones lower ruler of feelings dictate the direction the pendulum swings. It's the lower cretins without principles that keep this pendulum swinging.

@Sheamus Tell that to our leadership, most reasonable people can think further than our lifetimes, the people leading us however😩

@Darkseid yeah i geneuinely dont think they care bud, sorry to be the bearer of bad news yet again, but it seems like this is not an issue with not understanding, I think they understand very well, and this is all intentional.

@Sheamus Lol if that's the case then it's just irresponsible

@Darkseid ofcourse, since when is selfishness ever responsible?

@Sheamus Capitalism

Selfishness that benefits everyone 😂

@Darkseid lol no, that is not a valid argument lol, there is a morally selfless practice of it, and there is a immoral selfish practice of it. one is a fair use of the system, the other an exploitive abuse. I think people take it to hart that capitalism is strictly selfish, when really it isnt strictly speaking. yes there are cnts that will cheat you and screw you, and they more often than not do in fact do more harm than good.

@Sheamus Yeah no I agree, but I'd rather have shit capitalism than communism😂

@Darkseid careful with what you wish for, in many ways it could be equally as bad. a mega corporation that can bribe their way out of trouble and practically own a monopoly on just about everything is not much different from an oligarchy of dictators.

@Sheamus We're in shit capitalism now, it's not that bad sure tech companies and other major industries trying to monopolise shit and bribing politicians to start wars etc. but it's better than starvation

@Darkseid I dunno, I can see a potential future where that can be possible

Revelation13: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

@Darkseid

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Lol

This comes with article 11 and 13 memes and such lol

@Sheamus Everytime I look at that cartoon I feel weird being aligned with Fascists...

@Darkseid which cartoon now?

The tug of war?

@Sheamus Yeah

Yeah, i feel you bro... I think that pic displays the significance of the enemy of my enemy is my friend... For both sides

Yeah and how each side aids one another, People don't differentiate between the Libertarian right and Authoritarian right but nowadays we both want free speech albeit to varying degrees😂 And socialism always ensures the richest rich stay rich

Yeah man, i see your point.

That graphic is soo bad and guess what it isn't far fecthed.

Was talking about the "love is love" btw soz

Jeez how far behind are you.. Think that topic was a couple weeks back the whole love is love thing lol

too many channels, too many discords

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Do me a favor please. Try to get as many people as you can to report this for hate speech

Eh, most people here go by the logic that hate speech is protected by Freedom of Speech, so I can't see many people here being sympathetic on that one. That opinion is indeed shit, and I don't believe it's karma, but it's only an unpopular opinion..unless he himself takes his bigotry out upon another person in violence can anyone really do anything about it... @𝐁𝐀𝐃 𝐁𝐈𝐋𝐋𝐘

@ZombieQueen He just sealed his fate! He threatened to rape someone!

Oh, wow. Unwise of him. @𝐁𝐀𝐃 𝐁𝐈𝐋𝐋𝐘

that tweet doesnt even know where on the spectrum it is meant to be

Hate speech....

Cuck boy

https://youtu.be/MrNRHOEm9Ns

Political compass is so retarded

@Koloth the Klingon Porn Star what about hate speech

What even is the difference between National Socialism and National Communism btw

Also I guess I'm the people you should be very fucking scared of

Indeed you are lol

As for your question, In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Socialism is sometimes used interchangeably with communism but the two philosophies do have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems. I guess you could argue that socialism is the cancer, and communism is the zombified corpse after the fact lol

Socialism has redeeming qualities to it

But I feel asif Communism just values everyone no matter how fucking useless he is

If you see a cockroach you squash it, because its a disgusting insect

You dont let that thing chill in your house to multiply and eventually become a massive problem

That is true, communism is much like that, unless you are opposed to it, then you get squashed none the less. I am keen to understand these redeeming qualities you find in socialism though, it's rather concerning as I struggle to find any qualities worthy of being considered redeeming, so would be interesting to understand that statement of yours, if you dont mind elaborating.

Oh dude

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The EFF and BLF are as much Socialists are Neo-Liberals arent Racist

I hope to god that they dont ever get ellected

Because they ahve no fucking idea what theyre doing

AWB was just a bunch of fucken farmers who just wanted to oppress blacks becasue some story book governs their lives

What we need in ZA is Either Communism or National Socialism, total obedience to the state

But not from some snot nosed piece of shit that only passed Matric like Malema or Whatever runs BLF

We need a European lead Communist movement

Capitalism is too cut throat, if you don't make it at first or arent born into the 1-20% youre fucked

Under Communism atleast theres a semblance of equality

You have the State and everyone under it

I disagree with all you said, Historically, communism has always fallen into single part control over society. This is due to its basic structure of consolidating all the power and resources, but then they are never relinquished to the people (hence why commies insist real communism has never been tried, in spite of it all being done the communist way). And Socialism has hardly ever been successfully demonstrated, and never on a large scale. Human nature tends away from egalitarian sharing and toward private ownership. This will never change.... but that is digressing from the objective question really, I just wanted to know the redeeming qualities of socialism from your perspective, not your opinion on who and how the country should be governed.

Yes becasue people governing themselves have had such an amazing track record
* coughs in Boer Rpublics oppressing the shit outta the blacks *
You always need someone to tell you what todo and to take away what you don't need.

I know about that

Its a generalization

Also took that 8 Values test thing btw

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/924/712/647/#bbfb=657764975

https://discord.gg/5THxem

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"But you have a Oranje Blanje Blou flag in your Profile pic, how can you be a leftist?" - Your average Autist

^

the baseness

I need to retake that test again to see if any of my views have changed over the past year.

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What is THAT!

@ZombieQueenI think I now know what the 1939 8mm Mauser Bullet I have in my room was meant for 😏

imagine being a liberal

Imagine being anywhere close to Centre, in South Africa, in this day and age

Meant for? @Deleted User

I'm only joking ofcourse, but I do actually have a WW2 era Kar98k bullet, even has the German Wehrmacht's eagle stamped into the backend of it!

I'm quite fond of WWII Memorabilia. Do you have a photo of it?

This cracks me up about the Nazis in WW2

The fuckers were still stuck in 19th century warfare, even with Blitzkrieg, all they did was swap out Horses for Tanks,w hich is a significant advantage if you think about it

But they took the tiem to mark their bullets with the Swastika and what year it was made

No wonder they lost the war

The idiots were too busy engraving Distance markers into the back of their Kar98k Sights

Wow. That stamp on the back is so fucking neat. How'd you come to possess such an interesting relic? @Deleted User

Grandfather was in North Afrika, 1943

He has a Kar98k in his House

The weapon sounds amazing when fired ^.^

Oh yeah

Mhmm ^.^

Me shooting a US Lend lease 1942 Enfield

My grandfather was in the 1st Infantry Division and later on the 6th Armoured Division, he fought in Alamein and Sicily.

He passed a couple of Months ago in his sleep

Omg I'm so, so sorry for your loss 💔 @Deleted User

It seemingly happened at random aswell, like he didn't show symptoms or anything

Nice shooting range also..

That shooting range is dogshit

It is? Lol

Yeah

My farm is much better

How old was he?

I get to intimidate the workers all day

bigger targets @Deleted User 😉

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Much bigger

that nibba's posters are everywhere where I live

fug

Lul

"Son of the soil"

Wow...

>.<

Terrorist more like

But

Anywhore

tbh EFF is the soyboy version of BLF

I'm inclined to agree with that statement.

I mean..they're all pretty much lunatics, but BLF seems far more insidious.

I find that I can't agree with most political parties in SA

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ANC-corrupt
DA-egalitarians
EFF-Soyboy version of BLF
BLF-bunch of brainlets
ZACP-(((Capitalists)))
SACP-(((Communists)))
VF+-don't have a problem with them
Cape Party-good guys

Analysis on point!

@Deleted User What's so bad about Capitalism?

The state

If you ahd a one party Capitalist state, then youd probably have one of the best nations on Earth in a few years....

WE DO

China is expected to takeover teh USA as the biggest Economy on Earth by 2025

All becasue there's no other side, politically speaking

Theres only the Communist Party

Dont fall into the trap of Capitalism always good @EternalZimbo-Rhodie

Multiple strong Political Parties causes stagnation

Just look at Dems vis GOP in America

Its prettymuch 70% revenge Politics

30% actual growth

Take away one of them and you have nothing but Growth

Its why China came outta fucken nowhere during the 90s

They took their one party totalitarian state

And embraced Capitalist Doctrine

With the help of practically a couple Billion slaves, they built the new Chinese Empire

@EternalZimbo-Rhodie it's an ideology that divides the nation waging a war with the rich against the poor

Not necessarily , Communsim is just as much an ideology that devides you between the rich and poor

@Deleted User didn't say it was a better alternative

Oh yeah no I never thought you did

I think we all know what's a better and more healthier alternative

I say whatever China did we need todo

State Capitalism?

And smart corruption aswell

Every nation on Earth is corrupt, why try and get rid of it

Whena state is corrupt, but gets shitdone, nobody cares

Its only when South African and Greece fail to get anything done

That people find issue with it

fascism is indeed a better alternative to the other two ideologies

Its sorta leans more left than right

no open audio channel why?

Good question..

I was able to join, but I'm a mod..err...

Those are reserved for the Protected Classes only

Pay your due first

Bahaha how?! Is that yours? @SebVet#1444

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