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Not to say it was correct but it was there
Libertarian vs Soc Democrats
They didn’t start with capitalism is oppressive because we say so, it began with empirical data. Now its capitalism is a means for white people oppress the developing countries because we say so and then we’ll go from there
Ironically it was Julie Eccles that inspired me to write this because most of her arguments are ‘this a fact in the study of sociology/political science etc.’
I heard that capitalism is racist
Accept it or to the gulag with you
So what is their main argument that capitalism is racist?
He didn't bother elaborating
>something that requires hard work, luck and intelligence is racist
Oof, who's the real racist here?
They view oppression as a hydra(cut off only one head and it will simply grow back) what I mean is they see all the ‘arms’ of oppression as needing to be eradicated as they all give each other power in order to perpetuate the ‘system of oppression’. These arms are racism, colonialism, sexism, capitalism etc. They say capitalism necessarily enforces The White monopoly of power
The amount of proof’s you would need for this theory are astronomical but it’s the core of post-Thatcherism leftist thinking.
The best way to fight this is to learn as much as you can about it
Case in point. “EWC is the only way to empower black people and you dare challenge that you blady racist white”
@spursfan82 😂holy shit he literally justifies one of his arguments ‘there’s basically a consensus in academia’
@spursfan82 Watch out, you might get kicked for sharing offensive content. Content that offends everyone's intelligence, that it.
Just skip to any random part in that video and you’ll find the ‘PHD in economics’ making one fallacy after another
I couldn't get through that video... infuriating stuff
I did that and at one point he goes ‘the biggest problem in SA is that there’s no centralized economic planning committee to take over the economy’ why you may ask? Just cuz
Centralized planning aka one of the strongest arguments why we should have a free market
The "Academic" society has been heavily influenced by leftist ideals
Like the media
The Soviet Union was obviously the winner of the Cold War if this is anything to go by
Ok lads I’m done for the afternoon check y’all later
July Eccles 😂
Not happy about the Discord Leaks video that @Rendier did. I know I'm a bit delayed but hey you don't have time for everything. My reason is because now the other day he was united against the media with Willem and now because the Citizen did a hit piece with regards to what Willem said, which was completely and utterly taken out of context, and involved him (Renaldo) now all of a sudden does a 180 on Willem by saying he shouldn't have said what he said? This is hypocritical and very disappointing. Just sharing my opinion that's all.
@Kesh Well Willem shouldn't have been that provocative on twitter when opening his discord he could have just said "Here's my discord,join if you want"
So then the constitution is nothing more than toilet paper because we're no longer allowed freedom of expression
You're not getting the point..
@Kesh Did you watch the whole video? I ended by saying that according to me Willem and Danie aren't racist... unless there is something I am not familiar with. I do think saying your discord is the "most racist, sexist" etc blog is an idiotic thing to do and as someone who knows the media bias would never say such a thing... even as a joke
I did @Rendier and I'm not saying you said they are racist. I'm referring to the fact that you sided with the article in the Citizen which is slanderous and insulting towards Willem. Now he has become a 'black sheep' so to speak (not a racist term by the way)
well it's a joke because no matter what - they would've been labeled the most "racist... blah blah" discord ever anyway
The irony out of all of this I came to this conclusion DESPITE them trying to spread FAKE news about me regarding a comment I made on here. They have tried their utmost to discredit me and even after that I was still man enough to state they aren't racist according to my dealings with them... I highly doubt they would show me the same courtesy given the opportunity to ruin me.
When Willem said those things, he was literally allowing the people to see that yes there are racists still out here, even within his following. Does that mean his racist? No. He is not guilty by association and the article was complete and utter bullshit and I'm sure the mainstream media have an agenda
This goes back to what I just said. If this is the case, the constitution is nothing more than toilet paper because now we're not even allowed to freely express ourselves
@Kesh I went through the articles and gave my opinion. I made it clear that guilty by association is an idiotic means to label someone a racist. However the arrogance that Willem showed in his video and the last article is something I can't dispute as the article was written as a response and I couldn't fault their reasoning.
Bragging that the article gave him more subs and then talking about slander when he himself stated his discord was the "most racist, sexist" was the nail in the coffin. Unfortunately it seems the subscribers has gone to his head. He even bragged about being able to reach a million subs in 3 years.
Willem has every right to be arrogant because he has been proven right about quite a few things which I'm sure you can agree to right @Rendier? The fact that he can brag about having more subs because of a hit piece is because he can, he has a right to. It's called the 'streisand effect'. If people talk shit about you, people are going to see what you really have to say on your channel and might end up subbing because now they see what you are actually about instead of believing the lies in mainstream media
@Kesh What was the point about coming after Renaldo though?
Then again, the problem is the media
You were acting like Renaldo betrayed Willem
No I didn't. I was merely giving my opinion. Nothing against Renaldo at all. If you can refer back to what I said on this server, you will see that I actually complimented Renaldo on stuff I agree with based on what he said and done.
@Kesh No It's just interesting that you considered the video a "180"
It was definitely a 180 based on what him and Willem did with regards to being united against the media. Is that all you took from what I said?
One point at a time.
I don't think it was a 180 as Renaldo gave his unbiased opinion,he also gave negative points of both parties.
He defended Willem in some instances so it's not really a 180
@Kesh the video was about the Citizen(part of mainstream media) talking shit about Willem and claiming that everyone's and everything on that Discord was racist (aka fake news). The video was against msm but only it was focused on the Willem scandel specifically and not on fake msm holistically.
Is it bad i blew up 10 death stars in a starwars role play by my self as pikachu
Vader could not even stop me sad
I sent vader bank rupt fast
I understand that is not Willem discord but alot of People thought it was his ... Cuz it was marketed by him on his channel and Twitter. And the name of the Discord was Willem Petzer Livechat. So naturally if someone markets something on their social media with their name on it. It would be accepted that it is run by them... But the media didn't do enough investigation...
Worst part the empire leader tryed shock me ( shocking me just gives me more power )
So to come to conclusion... It was just unfortunate that the discord had Willem's name linked to it...
That are someone screwed up
I say both
I’ve decided to create the Feminist Free-Market Society or FFS
We’re a feminist group that believe in the free market and hate commies
`smacks everone with ketchup bottle walks off `
And im guessing you mean some shitty discord server xd
stop being a bully jub
this is a safe space
*Jub puts glock to head*
"Fuck your safe space"
Im pretty sure Seb is trolling
is jub putting the glock to his own head?
Half trolling, for some reason feminism and leftism go hand in hand. Want to fuck with thaty
But ur not actually like a third wave feminist right...
ah you see, thats mainstream leftist feminism
IM going to reform
Did u guys see the article of a woman spraying home made bleach or some shit to burn throgh men's groin if they manspread in New York trains?
Reform feminism. That is like trying to reform the ANC.
I found it hilarious and disturbing...
You guys want to make a suicide pact?
If EFF come to power we all bail
@SebVet so you are going to begin an non fringe feminism movement
An actual thing or nah
Ive never understood the concept
Is it the death of women or targeted attacks cause they're a woman
Some juan educate me pl0x
I know that there is female infanticide ..mostly in Asian and middle eastern cultures though.. @WuldGoGayForLauren
Also happens alot in South America, but, yes.. it's a thing.. fem·i·cide
the killing of a woman or girl, in particular by a man and on account of her gender.
"I’ve decided to create the Feminist Free-Market Society or FFS" hilarious. @SebVet
seriously... is this Discord Picachu real or a bot... because either way it has to be kicked
They're real...sometimes. Lol
@WuldGoGayForLauren if EFF comes to power it's our turn to have a revolution
Femicide... You would think such cultures that practice that would go extinct...
@Meerkat_RSA lol i doubt women would ever achieve that, being biologically and physically weaker on average.
@Rendier it is a troll... Trying to be a bot... The Discord Picachu
Unless the trannies go rogue 🤔
Trannies go Rogue <-- good band name
@Sheamus they can use guns... Oh wait feminist are anti-gun... They can use cars... Wait it causes pollution. Mmm. They can use the pans from the kitchen
woman chops of mans penis ="oh he deserved it" or no one cares.
yet manspreading gets you thrown full of bleach😑
Yeah saw video on youtube of a woman doing that, and when they dont get away with it, then it's sexist... reminds me, hear that woman accusing Kavanough of sexual assault will get 10 years jail time if it turns out she is lying lol, can't wait to see her get put away for that, either she is going to take one for the team, or she is going to sing like a canary lol... looking forward to that.
yet if a man wolf whistles he is somehow sexually harassing a woman. *cough cough* double standard
always double standards with the liberals... They are the ones that keep saying they are tolerant, but the moment they have anything to say, it is demonstrating their intolerance for this or that. This is why I no longer am liberal, I admit i am intolerant of the intolerable, at least I am not a hypocrite anymore lol
That's considered assault
no your spamming is just annoying
90% u spam point gg
@Apollo The face that woman presenter makes at her when she says men are discriminated lol... She so totally doesnt want to hear it lol, but that old lady, she is a reasonable woman, i like how she tells that presenter to be patient lol
Get a life girls, get a life... - Ann Widdecombe
Need more classy women like that
she triggers all the female hosts, kak funny
Know how that not spam ....
If i ask
those other panellists in the first video did the "so what you're saying is..." thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69rgLvitaYM&t=138s @Sheamus also another female that is aware of the double standards
@Apollo Yeah I have seen Camille's lectures before, she knows whats up
red-pilled grannies 😃
I like Katie Hopkins but she aint the brightest xd
@spursfan82 I'm pretty sure if feminists figure out how to give birth without men they are gonna further demonize men, they are already told that single mothers should be praised
I don't think it would happen tbh to many influential men with big media sources
totally, although I'd replace the word "females" with "feminists"
Don’t get me started on feminists
But to be honest the Kavanaugh thing was a mess and should’ve been done confidentially with a full FBI investigation. Fuck up of epic proportions
@Apollo it goes further. Apparently it’s perverse to say that a nuclear family leads to a more successful upbringing. Even though Fatherlessness is directly linked to an increased chance of crime. Case in point the African American community. Fatherlessness is rampant and with it a whole host of societal problems.
And before some idiot uses this to show how we are a racist server, I’ll do your research for you. The link between Fatherlessness and crime is an almost 20% higher than a household with a male figure. This cuts across racial lines
An argument I read was that the West simply uses ‘the innocence of the child’ to enforce existing gender roles. Even though virtually every time there’s been a study on this, it’s been proven that a stable household (meaning a maternal and paternal figure, not necessarily male or female as children of homosexuals show no signs of an increase chance of homosexuality nor any of the effects that come along with a broken home) is key in the developmental stage.
@WuldGoGayForLauren not even going to bother with it. Already assume we should believe simply because she’s a women(which is incredibly sexist to women by the way as it almost infantilizes them)
The only one who had a semi-reasonable response was John Oliver. He said basically it’s impossible to know wether or not it’s true or not at the current point in Time, but went after his extreme partisanship among other valid arguments
#MeToo has also given rise to many false rape\molestation\harassment allegations . The old woman has some credible points. @Apollo
#MeToo is a sham
Has influence and is not just some nobody tweeting such nonsense. but no one bats an eye
😂 fuck you gotta love it that some people still have a sense of humor
can offically say I got banned from boer testimony without even posting on boer testimony lol @RaRi
I just got devoured by mosquitoes..
The itch..it's maddening!
Same but instead of mosquitoes Boer Testimony and instead of getting devoured I got banned. and Instead of it being maddening, it was hilarious
basically the same thing overall
This bullshit makes me tired, everywhere I go I see lunacy and stupidity. Maybe the Western governments need to suffer and learn why Socialism is a bad idea
Society seems like a sick dog that needs to be put down
Can I just ask, what does whatever the fuck that is have to do with socialism?
Have you not watched Trump's speech to the UN
Those smug pompous fucks ready to kill their countries, sickens me
Nice equivalent there, @SebVet lol. And I feel like I hear one that may be stuck with me in the car just flying around casually grabbing a drink every now and then. Lol
@Cal wern't they laughing because he said he was the most effective or greatest or something presidency of all time. Thats pretty rediculous
I would laugh
No no, of course that's just him blustering
he was being serious I think
he looked like he was taken off guard by the response
I see it in them, they eyes betray them. Look at the video when he speaks about socialism
didn't catch that
Try to look closer if you do decide to watch it again
Ill admit, that while what he said to the reporter was pretty gross, I did audibly laugh
wasnt it like 40 mins?
That's nothing compared to the nearly 9 hour testimonies of Dr. Ford and Kavanaugh. OMG so fucking long..
I don't know why Netanyhu even does it anymore, its the same speech every year except he has a different cartoon eachtime
Look, imo no democracy will ever be effective
Yeah ..twas painful.
If anything I'm more of a monarchist
America isn't a democracy
Not in the way you think it is
No in exactly the way I think. The amount of essays iv'e written on American politics is rediculous
I hate democracy
I think it's inefficient
More like a plutocracy in my opinion, but still a democratically elected one.
Not really, American democracy is a pretty efficient system but regardless ill trade ineeficiency with tyranny any day
A democracy is just another form tyranny
The libertarian dream is dead
There are still hopeful libertarians, so not dead.
There is no hope for the west, not with liberals or social democrats and no, I'm not trying to convince you to believe me
There was never a libertarian dream, it was always finding the balance between individual liberties and social liberties
Yea wasn't really working
West is doing pretty well to be honest
You cannot be serious
How is it doing badly?
Europe is about to have a population replacement for one
Sweden is one third non native
Europe isn't exactly the west.
Hungary is under the tyranny of the EU
Not true, those projections is if immigrant populations maintain current rate sof reproduction and the evicence shows that doesn't happen so no that not really a good point you've madfe
Projections by who
Give me proof
And I'll admit I'm wrong
Who do you think, government agencies and staticians
theres a complete consensus
You'd trust a government institution?