EFF and ANC made a coalition

they will pass this EWC in parliament

and change whatever they want

they have full control now

@Rox Well now, let's see what happens

next few weeks are still critical I guess

Remember the end of apartheid? not sure if you were there?
Everyone made a big noise.. threats of war.. but in the end rolled over and handed over
Do you think this will be the same?

i remember and do not think it is the same this time. in 1994 we all had hopes, but this is ~25 years later. it is 50/50. we are either going to move forward or explode.

@Rox Yes.

the same? so why even fight it
Do we wait for them to take the businesses and houses too

@Charl There was hope then as you say... but this is reverse apartheid

@Rox i understand your point of view. the question is what to do even though the odds are stacked. my first go-to is God and i believe He has a plan. second point is attitude of people. one has to not hit back when someone wrongs you. the eye for eye leaves everyone blind quote .... i miss how i grew up everyday and it pains me to see what we have today, but it is what it is ... question is can we as a collective find the synergy? i think we need to acknowledge our differences and see how we can co-exist. i will always be a boer, but we need to find a way to coexist. when people default to skin then i think we are regressing. it is not the color of skin which is the problem, it is the color of attitudes ... hope that makes sense

But EWC refers to all property... do you really believe this CORRUPT government will stop at farms?
Do you believe this is about land and not resources and collaterial for the Chinese..
This will never stop till we are Zimbabwe.. IF / When EWC happens there is no hope

Its not about race..

EWC is a weapon is the wrong hands.. and lets be honest we are in the wrong hands
No one is oposed to restitution and reform .. its the EWC part

i hear you

i think for me the question is how do we reach across the boundaries, without politicians ... 😃

Look at how they treat the weakest members of society.. and thats who they are
The corruption affects the poor..

I think most south africans are not racist and have no issues with race
Its the gov and its eff mouthpiece that stir up all this crap

Most bought into the rainbow nation

EWC is not about race.. or racism even if it is racist.. if that makes sense
EWC is about looting and theft under the guise of social justice

my guide is the Bible and everytime i get angry i remind myself of https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A12&version=NIV

there will always be the powers. before this, we had other opression and before that other opression etc etc

and once the current situation is resolved there will be forces again

we can stand idly by...

or we can speak out against evil

true

how do we speak out and reach people?

i would say by example and in our everyday life ... and that still applies
but this is bigger than that

What would you tell the jews in berlin

good point

i am thinking about the topic non-stop, but it is very complex ...

same..

I swing between despair and hope

gavin mcguinnes said it well when talking about SA. he said some days he drinks his coffee and wish all resonable people leave and somedays he finishes his coffee and think it is better to stay and work on the problem. many of use share the same view ... i think?

No.. many are leaving

We dont have a voice in this anymore..

or one that is heard by those in power

Personally I dont see this ending well.. The motives behind it are wrong

Refer back to the jews in Germany comment..

they too thought saner heads will prevail

and its not about race... its greed, destruction and abuse of power

Britian is just trying to be political correct. And they can take over South Africa again when it goes to shit due to ewc

@Free Jub communism has rotted mays brain

@Free Jub I think that's the end goal for Britain too...let the country collapse and take over SA again, if the UK really want's to survive Brexit, SA and it's resources are a must

https://twitter.com/SAfmnews/status/1034105814888443904 61% of you don't know who your father is but you know where your "ancestors" owned land

Hectic, that's scary

no wonder we have such high crime

Yeah, no masculinity 😐

I guess masculinity isn't that toxic afterall

ROFL it never was

Dont drink the Koolaid

ROFL

https://www.rt.com/business/437051-south-africas-ruling-anc-says/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

Some sense in the world

@Sheamus I think its also an indicator to Gender violence and Success in general...Children from a stable home are more likely to succeed...that's just a fact

@Darkseid agreed, no argument with the stats

@Arcade_Hustle Will be interesting to see public reaction..EFF claimed the ousted DA cause they didn't agree with EWC...now lets see

South Africa's African National Congress (ANC) said that a bill allowing the government to seize private land without compensation has been withdrawn by the Portfolio Committee on Public Works pending further study.

@Sheamus But damn wtf is going on...I don't think you need a male role model to tell you that you're responsible for any life you bring into the world...are SA men really just that shit?

@Arcade_Hustle Juju "The Portfolio are agents of WMC" can hear it already

Pretty funny, consering Theresa "MWC" May is here LOL

considering*

@Arcade_Hustle I think all this might just be planned electioneering on the ANC's part

Apologies

You were right

WOW

@Darkseid yeah you do, there is a balance needed in a childs development

@Rox I see the message has been received by ANC, yeah.

Consequences wasn't worth it.

WOW

Theresa May gave him a poes clap

UK/US would now help with loans, not China, we're saved, lads.

oops

But what about the masses

Thank you Jesus for WMC

@Rox Malema will go from 8% to 9% or something retarded

nobody gives a sh*t about EWC but blacktwatter

@Sheamus Nah man I know guys that because they grew up without their fathers are twice as "driven" to be apart of their childrens lives...I suppose once again it comes down to ideologies

which are micro minority of SA

@Darkseid care to elaborate on what you mean by that term "driven"...

Someone go post this on Julius wall

Im sooo happy

Julius can go *(&^&*(*(& himself

haha can't wait to hear what come out of kidi amin's mouth now

GG @Free Jub, you just advanced to level 8!

@Arcade_Hustle you should be careful for commemts like that cuz Willems Discord was removed due to such comments <@&475085655752310794>

@Free Jub Oh snap, sorry man.

@Sheamus Because they know what it's like to grow up without a father figure they want to be the best father figure they can be for their kids...And then I know guys who had both their parents but don't even bother to find out the gender of their child

@Darkseid oh motivation... Yeah doesn't change the fact their development and perception are impacted, father doesn't only help develop motivation.

Guys this is just the first hurdle let's see how all this plays out, because the ANC is still trying to take farms without changing the constitution to repay China

But they have been smacked down by Donald Trump

The world heard us

❤

@Rox Doesn't matter what media/people believe, it's over.

good work Ersnt Roets 😃

@spursfan82 VERY

https://twitter.com/mynameisjerm/status/1034446866900037632

@Sheamus My point is it's deeper than that, in the case of 61% of the country not choosing to be there for their children...That's some irresponsible shit

@Darkseid yes it is, agreed

Kidi Amin can have Trollip hahaha

@spursfan82 Yep, they just got the wind KTFO of their sails by this

i like how Britain supports racism as long as it is done in a democratic way

@SmartBullet_ZA We'll never know, but I'm quite sure Theresa was integral in this.

Should be grateful to her.

very good news

They gonna lose votes for this...

any SA news websites reporting on this yet ?

Maroela media has

my only issue with the with drawing is that it is not supported in other media outlets, only on Russian RT news

Wetsontwerp oor onteiening eers teruggetrek https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/wetsontwerp-oor-onteiening-eers-teruggetrek/

@KoninginTanja cool tnx for the link

Now there are going to be a lot of paid protests by eff and kin. Please everyone keep us informed of the situation in your town

need at least IOL or the dailymaverick to second the above

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2018-08-28-expropriation-bill-withdrawn-for-further-consideration/

https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/2001508/anc-welcomes-withdrawal-of-expropriation-bill/

nice!

GG @SmartBullet_ZA, you just advanced to level 3!

hmm but is it the same one Ramaphosa suggested ?

they welcome the withdrawal

WTF

Ooh gonna be so nice watching the left media wangle out of this

This bill is something else. It was probably never signed, because it is unconstitutional.

It has nothing to do with the current motion to amend the Constitution.

It is a good way to confuse everyone though.

dont know this is section 25 bill

https://twitter.com/mynameisjerm/status/1034452941216903170?s=19 People are touched 😂

this is dual bill which is the same as the land expropriation bill, they withdrew it cause they don't want 2 of the same processes doing the same thing

so the bill to take land is

still on

sucks!

@SmartBullet_ZA We'll see what happens now, weird situation.

hmm the letter that @Arcade_Hustle linked does mention changing the constitution. So i guess it is the latest one that is being withdrawn

Jeez, read the comments, the asspain is real

https://twitter.com/ANCParliament/status/1034441181265096704

chips

@Arcade_Hustle I'm making popcorn for this shit..comedy gold

so basically it is the The Public Works Portfolio Committee that withdrew their bill

Please, just go read the comments, its a fkn saltmine

lol saltmine

nice

the Rand isn't really reacting to the news yet.

@Jerm Youre so wicked! Dont stop

well i did enjoy those comments on twitter

but some good news seems like they are going to change national key points act

this could be huge issue or great success

but if history repeats it self then the latter

Well it's not rocket science, UK supports legal land reform, EWC is illegal land reform. The mixed messaging from ANC is confusing, but they know they'd be breaking international law. So..

lets say it this way

if the president him self does not proclaim this on national tv

like he did before

then this might be ruse

@SmartBullet_ZA yeah. I think that's why the rand isn't really budging atm. They are waiting for official confirmation

I'm sure it will stick as a talking point past 2019 for votes.

Doubt it would be actioned though.

@Nidalap Rorrim yup...

uwu

🙂

this reminds me of Russian tactics, they send tanks in to your country, you ask them what is up with these tanks you sent here, they reply what tanks? those tanks are painted in none Russian colors, the soldiers driving are clothed in civilian clothes, not ours... cause if it aint official it aint real

@SmartBullet_ZA they did that?

GG @KoninginTanja, you just advanced to level 2!

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TO FURTHER CLARIFY: The Expropriation Bill (from Feb Department of Public Works) is withdrawn for re-introduction upon the conclusion of the Constitutional Review process currently underway to make provision to expropriate land without compensation.

Wait what?

Umm..what

Hows it guys 😄

Im with @Arcade_Hustle on this.. he predicted this yesterday

@Rox I'm not so sure anymore, that clarification tweet is a bummer.

buuuut who knows

https://www.sapeople.com/2018/08/28/south-africas-anc-withdraws-land-expropriation-bill-passed-in-2016-for-constitution-change-process/

This says full steam ahead on EWC

They just deleted that reply

wtf

is going on

dont think they even know

@KoninginTanja yeah read the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine_(2014%E2%80%93present)

wait.. Im lost

GG @Rox, you just advanced to level 11!

ok they replied again, must have been an edit

TO FURTHER CLARIFY: The Expropriation Bill (from the Department of Public Works) is withdrawn for re-introduction upon the conclusion of the Constitutional Review process currently underway to make provision to expropriate land without compensation.

what is actually going on now..

So full steam ahead

@Rox Basically yeah.

depends on what the con. review concludes.

@Arcade_Hustle battle won but not the war. Lets celebrate now. Work again tomorrow

Considering EWC violates International Law, and will get us kicked from AGOA, the Constitutional Review will find this unattainable. The process will drag till right after elections and then conclude EWC unconstitutional.

@Rox They're buying time, retracting the process to rework it..it's looking more and more like electioneering

@SmartBullet_ZA that's incredibly sneaky. Trojan horse

@KoninginTanja they also shot down dutch airliner

@KoninginTanja and denied it

@KoninginTanja the Netherlands are still fighting to get the Russian to accept they did that

@Arcade_Hustle Problem is the restless folks who want land

@Arcade_Hustle if they by some nightmare of occurrence manage to change the SA constitution will it still be seen as Illegal in international eyes ?

@Nidalap Rorrim Yeah.

No

Property rights are sacred

in the western world

Well not sacred per se you can be retarded all you like

but UN law is UN law and AGOA act, IMF loans, bunch of things demand respect for property ownership

i will celebrate once Cyril is on national tv

I see the current stance of the banks are if land is taken from you you still have to pay your bond

He has to save face now..I want to see Malemas reaction

@Nidalap Rorrim Good luck with that, not like they can take your property away

@Nidalap Rorrim More than welcome to reposes it.

yeah I see no way the banks will be able to not collapse if this goes trough

nothing has changed..was a PR job

@Rox There is one thing that changed...We now know the anc can't handle pressure so we should just keep pushing bringing attention to the matter

yessssss

and the world is watching.. the support is on our side

big difference this time

https://twitter.com/Sowellnomics/status/1034473052531306496?s=19

@WuldGoGayForLauren Just doing my memeing duty for the movement

OOF

@WuldGoGayForLauren are you beating your meat guy...

no why xd

Those sounds of you typing or some shit looking for that video😂

xd

Hi @Rendier i am planning to stary a political YouTube channel/Twitter page any tips?

@Rendier ^

@WuldGoGayForLauren is free

1 Night = Free

@Apollo jub se ours klink baie Afrikaanse vir my..

2 Nights = R200

u heard her open the door dude xd

Jub why do you abuse your keyboard like that😩

On time you answered your parents in afrikaans

@Darkseid dis taai van al die kom

@Meerkat_RSA 😂

@WuldGoGayForLauren steeds te hard

GG @Meerkat_RSA, you just advanced to level 1!

@WuldGoGayForLauren Verstaan jy afrikaans?

https://twitter.com/SaveAustralia1/status/1033752179180326912

@WuldGoGayForLauren and why is your profile showing that you are online?

Check the video

😂

Havent figured out he is greece

@Rox he is an south African isn't he?

who Adam?

Ya.. but greek heritage and still in greece

I've just been procrastinating instead of studying...

Not likely to come back

@Darkseid same here...

Memes have to be made though😂

yesssssss

@RaRi @Apollo can't you change your id if you have the premium membership

Glad Im not Adams neighbor.. must suck to have that mob outside all day making a noise..