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i thought google hangouts doesnt exist anymore
@Everyone. Gonna join the Klipkop Stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cbSPNZryzo what the fuck are they doing?
Trying to catch all the Fortnite players (those aged 12-16) as their new fanbase? ๐
Middag julle
Vok skool
Deagle 44 Deagle 44
Epic meme
any of u niggas wanna get redpilled lmao XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14 this is amazing , woman critizes western civilization, says modern western science is flawed, that we need to decolonise education and then almost instantly pulls out her smart phone ๐
THis is what I call
Black Economic Empowerment
F
Exodus 20-21
Lads
My teacher asked me to do a book report on fiction so i asked if i could do one on the bible
50 credits and upvotes for you
@Bantukaner Unlike you virgins, I don't use reddit
I use 4chan
Lads Im going on a date today
and the chick is hot
pog
UwU
My bad bro
imagine going on dates
Same
this post was made by incel gang
Incels = Wincels
thats unfortunate for scott ๐
@Rendier ek sien jy het daai html inspect element gebruik wat ek van jou vertel het toe jy Busting se goed edit het. Trots op jou! Trol die boomers lekker met Pepe.
where does morality come from if not from religion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1PIHq3b4qo the beef thickens
yes
@Bantukaner Imagine trying to convince someone that the god that claims to love you will let you burn in hell for not loving him back is moral lul
my parents usually give me a hiding and send me to the room if i steal
but they dont put me in the fucking oven for the rest of eternity
And by that logic all non believers wouldn't have any morality
If that is what you mean since the statement is a bit vague, I might just be interpreting the statement incorrectly
The old timer got cucked
Trueee
God that LL channel is a cult
Disgusting as fuck
@Jub Cult of Scott. They believe everything he says. He also added an article in the description that Barryroux account was now suspended, but that article was months ago and Man's not barry roux had like 500k followers if you look at the article banner but now he has 720k.
Does Christian feminists end their prayers in amen?
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Ah men
@Jub ok so you would say that morality doesn't come from God,so does it come from society?
because society once deemed slavery moral
Slingshot or thong? Lmfao
Lol I was just trying to give somebody a laugh.
@Bantukaner As opposed to God who thinks Slavery is still Moral
I don't think God ever said that slavery is good,I mean the whole reason why he freed the Hebrews out of Egypt was because they were enslaved and a lot of slaves in the Bible isn't what slavery is today.
Egyptian slavery of the Hebrews is much different than Hebrew slaves who were basically just labourers and maids.
And most of the pro-slavery verses in the Bible are usually said by Saint Paul which just refers to being a maid,labourer or just generally a worker for someone @Oupoes
Bra if slavery is bad... then why are we all wage slaves
@Bantukaner I would like for you to name the verse where God Says " You shall not own people as property " Just one verse would be good ty.. Oh and dont lie for Jesus about the type of Slavery - I cannot beat my maid / laborer and not suffer any punishment so long as he or she does not die.. Come now . stop being so dishonest. And with regards to morals god does not only condone it he even tells you who you can enslave and he provides you with a loophole on how to enslave a person for eternity by driving an awl through the ear of the slave. Your problem is you know your God is immoral and that current day society is by far more moral than your God who has become irrelevant in a modern world.
>current society
>moral
kek
Im still waiting for that verse
imagine believing that the current society that we live in is moral
I mean what's wrong with having a doulos?
@Bantukaner nice red herring Bantukaner my statement still stands and I can promise you modern Day society is by far more moral than just 50 years ago let alone 100 years or even 1000 years
kek
```Ephesians 6:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
```
```Colossians 3:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;```
```1 Peter 2:18-20 King James Version (KJV)
18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.```
servants โ slave
So far you have just presented Condoning slavery - how dumb can you get
so I need to find pro slavery verses?
In fact it even goes on to support victimhood
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Obey you masters even the cruel ones - that sounds pretty immoral to me
how?
Supporting Victimhood
how?
Slave obey your masters even the Cruel ones -- If its just a laborer as you say then i would tell the maid or Laborer to leave the cruel master
but I can understand why you dont get it because you need a book to tell you what is moral
and you need S O C I E T Y to tell you if something is moral
aren't we just 2 sides of a coin?
yes and so far we doing much much better than your book
what about people wanting to make pedophillia legal?
many years ago society saw slavery moral
so what changed?
Why you complaining - Your bible says it is okay to rape children - God says to kill all the men and and woman except for the woman who have not known a man - what do you think that is for
where does it say it's okay to rape children?
it's against pedophillia
it is terrible that you need an atheist to quote your bible to you
ok do it
```Matthew 18:6ย King James Version (KJV)
6ย But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
```
Oh so God can give devine commands about not harming children but he himself cannot follow his own rules - Did you happen to forget about noahs flood
God in the OT and NT are almost 2 different people nigga
still waiting for that verse btw
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So what you just said is god is fallable
lol
dumb ass
nyet
just said he was stricter in the OT than in the NT
still waiting for that verse
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You want the verse - just read deuteronomy which is full of horrible commandments
still waiting for that verse
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again."
Exodus 21: 7-8
yeah that's OT
made for the Jews
And when she had presented him the meat, he took hold of her, and said: Come lie with me, my sister. She answered him: Do not so, my brother, do not force me: for no such thing must be done in Israel. Do not thou this folly. [II Kings 13:8-12] But he would not hearken to her prayers, but being stronger overpowered her and lay with her. [II Kings 13:14]
but does God say this is a good thing?
GG @Bantukaner, you just advanced to level 7!
just because something happened doesn't mean that God says it is a good thing
like the whole rape of Lot
Wow you really like to hide behind oh - thats old testiment and new testiment - Find any verse in the New testiment where God Says DO NOT OWN PEOPLE AS SLAVES - I Even challenge to find a statement from Jesus where he says he came to change the law
bro wtf is this?
```Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.```
he fulfilled it by dying on the cross
Your very first verse just proved my point no previous law has been changed
they have
so stop hiding behind OT and NT
they were fulfilled
with Christ dying on the cross
the 10 commandments are the laws he was talking about it
the prophets are the Messiah
slave is wrongly translated in most versions
doulos would be the correct term
doulos = servant
Nonsense - he says the LAW and he does not mention the ten commandments - there are 614 laws which will include your ten commandments
THE LAW
T H E L A W
lol
those are the laws nigga
the 10 commandments IS THE L A W
Bantu - you killing yourself here buddy - you actually go and quote what I actually said was true and then you think you doing yourself any good. Law commandments LAW GOD God god we still talking the same things
you just doing mental Gymnastics
what are you on about
like most christians do when they cannot explain why God is so immoral
you're twisting muh words
Nope - Im using your very own words against you
the absolute mental gymnastics of gaytheists
You seem rather concerned about gays - Very moral of you
lol
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twisting this a bit eh?
I got you by the balls and im just turning the screws
thats all
nope
lol
perhaps you should go read peter 3 15
on the contrary I am wearing ball protecting
and I have the gun loaded
but listen I will say you are very entertaining though
ok so I won the debate?
noice
```1 Peter 3:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:```
well I'm doing my best to give an answer quite hard with all the mental gymnastics tho ๐
wow - was it a win lose kinda debate or was it a battle of ideas. And in the arena of Ideas - Arguments stand and fall on their own merit and so far you have not presented a single thing that refutes me
neither have you tho
@Oupoes how can u go of the premise that god is real and say in the same sentence that he is immoral
I mean we live in a society where a man can cut his dick off and become a women
Almost every verse you quoted says exactly what I said it would .. In fact it would seem I read the bible more than you do . As for "Your" God he certainly aint real and I am not an Atheist because of the evil shit in the bIble - I am an Atheist because you guys are yet to present evidence for your God
and if u are an atheist u cant make moral claims
its just dumb
I mean I'm a Christian because atheists can't present evidence that God doesn't exist
no you don't read the Bible more than me.You just look for verses your atheist youtubers tell you to go read
Ever heard of the Superiority of Secular Morality... Mr.P
lmao
it sounds kinda fake
enlighten me
why dont u
because they were part of some sect of Christianity that barely understood what they are following
Nobody can ever disprove a negative - It is as stupid as saying disprove the tooth fairy and because you cannot disprove the tooth fairy therefore I believe in the tooth fairy. The Tooth Fairy is a Negative Claim and the Claiment has to prove it before you believe it - see how it works
just replace tooth fairy with your God
some real brainlet hours
Mr.P look it up
thanx so much for ur wisdom such as "look it up"
bet you got that whole point from someone like the amazing atheist or atheism is unstoppable
i really am starting to think that moral secularism is the way forward
Give me a good reason why I should bow to your wims Mr.P last I checked I dont owe you anything
what?
Mr.P the best way to educate yourself is to enlighten yourself - Just trying to get you to read something that is not just your bible
when did i say u should bow down before me?
im not even Christian smooth brain
enlighten yourself with amazing philosophers such as Sรธren Kierkegaard
Mr.P well you seemed rather un impressed when I said you could look it up .
unimpressed=/= **bow down non white**
I couldnt care what amazing philosophers say as they do not present proof but rather arguments
nice meme tho
@Oupoes if you want proof for the existence of God read Summa Theologica by Thomas Aquinas
Wow did you just try to present an argument for God and disguise it as proof
lol
no I gave proof but I tried to disguise it as an argument
How about this Go read from the great legendery Daniel Dennit Philospher he argues against your god - therefore I am right = Right?? hence Arguments are not proof
ok
send me his book and I'll check it out
Or how about Bertrent Russel or Kai Nielson or William L Rowe - they all argue against god - so we must be right now that Athiest are correct ... Wrong .. none of them present Evidence .. So lets rather tackle why YOU Believe in God and lets see if that stands the test of scrutiny
they argue yet do not give proof
Philosphers from as long as there has been philosophers have argued for a great many things - Non of which is Evidence for anything - EG Some argue for Solipsism some against non of them prove either way
So lets rather talk about your belief and why you believe it
Well why I believe in God is a short and simple tail.
You see years ago I found myself where you're at basically,a low life atheist that hates religion for some reason and sees society as the only way to rely upon things.A few years later I got into politics and saw the world around me for what it is:A Godless consumeristic,materialist hell hole where new products are encouraged and all that matters is buying and being dependant on shops.I found myself asking where did it go wrong?I found out that after WWII people started losing faith and thus becoming immoral since they rely on society to give morals for them.Fags got rights and Trannies as well resulting in the push for global homo.Because most of these trannies and fags are usually atheists or satanists(which is basically atheism because it's based on nihilism,individualism and materialism).I then realised what must be done:I need to regain my faith again and I mean that's where it about ends
TL;DR society became degenerate and I needed and I saw God as the solution for that
LOL - You cannot be serious... Shall I break that down for you.. What you just said is you dont like the way the world looks therefore God is Real... What amazes me is that you think the one leads to the other some how.. okay but lets tackle your position.... You wonder why we hate religion . well how about you trying to convert everyone to you specific "brand" of religion and if they dont they automatic must be low lifes.. Even though you know nothing about me. Which brings me to the next point Religion Devides and does not unite. as you make abundantly clear in your statement. Religion also get you believing in things without good reason for believing in it.. Just to name a few of the problems let alone you vote in accordance to that religion you follow and expect me to follow your Ideals created by sheep herders. Perhaps your views on consumerism is based on the circles you move in and not what the vast majority of people adhere to. Perhaps its time for you to change up the people you hang around. So you say that people lost faith AFTER WW2 hence by your standard you should be asking how did the people Before WW1 and 2 who were Faithfull got into WW1 and WW2 if faith prevents immoral behaviour.. I dont know about you but WW1 and WW2 both were pretty fucked up in my mind and Since by your std that After world War 2 people lost Faith - then I must Commend them because we still have not seen WW3 yet so we doing pretty well ty.
As for fags and trannies - please explain to me what exactly is inherintly immoral about either of these people short of quoting your bible. Its only religions who are concerned about what people do in their private bedrooms. Atheism is not based on anything other than 1 single view . That being No evidence has been presented for God therefore we do not believe in it until such situation changes. That is it. So if you want to change Atheists minds perhaps you should start coming up with better ways than just saying " I dont like the world , therefore GOD "
@Bantukaner - and before you missunderstand me let me also add the following .. I dont know you from a bar of soap therefore I do not hate you nor do I love you .. I have no idea about you and thats it.. What I do think about you is that your std for evidence is very low . " No that does not mean you stupid " it just means you dont have Good Reasons for your belief. And Hopefully you see that and find better reasons to believe
well if you think about it logically there has to be some form of a higher power who created the universe
7DK - did it ever occur to you that you already poisoning the well by saying the following " WHO and Created " what makes you think it is a who and not a what? Then what makes you think it was Created ?
ok , some kind of cosmic force
'higher power'
7DK the only logical conclusion (and honest one) that can be said about the formation of this universe is science is working on this problem and they still do not have an answer. There is an entire field of science working on this and they still just have ideas. I can talk about what I think about the formation of the universe but what I think and what I believe is two different statements.
7DK science may answer this question about the origin of the universe in my lifetime and they may not . I am happy in the knowledge that both of these situations may prove to be true.. But I am not willing to be intellectually dishonest and say well because Science does not know yet, therefore this Religion thing must be right..
Ok this is going to be a long one
-The reason why people want to convert you to a specific brand of religion is for the simple reason that they want you saved.Even if you laugh at their "backwards" beliefs,mock them for their views or generally just hate them for their religion.
-Religion is to unite all people under your faith but since there is so many faiths this has been a hard thing to achieve and because there are people like you who refuse to believe.
-Referring to a religion as a bunch of sheep herder or muh dead jew on stick is called the Bronze Age Myth Fallacy.Using exaggerated points to make religion out so bad that it can't be defended because "who'd want to defend people who believe in fairy tales and muh santa claus xddd"
-Why should I change the people I hang out with?They give me the truths to many of society's problems. Consumerism makes the human body a cog in the machine and expects from it to constantly rely on a markets that only seek to enrich themselves and would betray their nation at any chance they could.
-The reason why people lost their faith after WWII can be split into two sections:Forced rejection of belief and Materialist Consumerism or just the effects of West and East in the Cold War:
**__Forced Rejection of Belief:__**
After WWII ended most of the world was divided between East and West,Communism and Capitalism.One must understand what's bad about both of these ideologies.In this section I will tackle communism or trying to achieve communism through Marxist Leninism:Communism focusses on the worker and that the worker should be the controller of the factory and the country. Obviously this wasn't the case in many Eastern Bloc nations except for in Yugoslavia but religion was also suppressed there to stop nationalism under the South Slavic groups from spreading.Under Stalin the USSR developed into a cult of personality focussed around the state namely Stalin or the leader that at that time.There were many campaigns against religion in the USSR which lead to the deaths of 12-20 million Christians.People seeing that they would get persecuted for their beliefs decided to abandon them and could live without worrying about that.Those who kept their faith did it in private but since the NKVD and KGB were a thing it was encouraged to tell them if your neighbours were practicing religion.The reason for this was solidify control in the country.Many Eastern Nations followed this program and still has an effect on many nations.
**__Materialism and Consumerism:__**
Following the defeat of the Germans after WWII the West saw that they needed to keep Europe capitalist.Through this was mass production of goods that basically nobody needed and the mass creation of movies.This was used by the West to show that capitalism is a better system than what the East had at the time.Through this was also the use of consumerism which lead to people constantly wanting to buy new things and whenever a new thing came out,even if it wasn't as good as the previous thing you still needed to get it because everybody was getting it and that's a good thing because why?Well because everybody was doing it and you need to do what everybody was doing.This lead to people viewing consumerism as their god and how were they going to pay tribute to this god?Constantly partaking in a materialist hellhole that encourages you to just to consume.Because of this people stared losing their faiths and the upper class benefited from this because of the income they were getting.
**__Homosexuals and Transgenders:__**
Well seeing that these people constantly promote degenerate practises such as pride parades where they go out sometimes naked in front of children ruining the innocence of children.Studies have shown that there is no gay gene therefore they aren't born that way.Studies have also shown that homosexuals make out for the majority of sexual predators and child abusers,therefore cutting them out of the picture would lead to less people being abused as a child,which would result in less homosexuals in this world.Transgenders constantly complain about not enough men wanting to sleep with them and continue to complain about it up until the point were it would be considered a bigoted thing not to sleep with a transgender person.Also these people don't fit into my fascistic worldview and therefore I automatically see them as a threat to society.
could actually give this essay for a school to mark
also any other responses would have to be done in Word
my god man
u to niggas need to be stoped
@Bantukaner - thanks for the long read - I love spending my spare time reading... Hehe.. okay.. lets tackle your statements.. 1...Firstly you need to show me first that I need to be saved and in order to do that you still have to prove your Gods Existance.. It like saying hey I want to provide you a parachute even though you cannot show me that the plane is crashing.... 2... Uniting under religion - any dumb ass can tell you that If God existed and was able to Think logicaly then he would easily see that the outcome he desires and what is actually happening is two very different things.. Why doesnt god just Come out from hiding and say hey All you human dummies this is how it is and here I am forget all the books and this is me presenting myself to you. 3...Forced Rejection of belief .. Correlation does not equal causation.. There is no evidence to show that Stalin Murdered because of Religious Beliefs.. His motives , very little is known about his motives , what is known is he was extremely paranoid and was delusional about his countrymen.. Just because the people who died under stalin were christians does not mean it was because they were christians..
4... Consumerism and Materialism .. Since the dawn of mankind progress has always led to infighting and copying of innovation .. EG early humans invented the club and early humans quickly realized there was advantages to having a club over an enemy who did not have a club. which meant More Early humans wanted clubs so more were made.. This is just Human Nature at work .. Survival of the fittest so to speak.. If you have a nice car and it affords you a special standing within social ciicles that benifits you more than me then it would be natural for a person to want a better car
and so on and so forth
You are trying to change Human Nature
As for the Homosexuals and Trans people.. I really would like to see your sources .. and their credibility
because I dont know about you but there is a lot of dads out there who molest their children whilst still being straight .. and this has been ongoing since again ( the dawn of man)
There is a lot of mother out there who molest their boys whilst still being hetro
These people are the fringe Groups and have been around since the dawn of man
I dont see any evidence that it is mainly homosexuals and trans that do these things . and the ones who do commit these kind of crimes are also just the fringes of their community
Which brings us to Your sources stating that the Majority of sexual deviance is commited by Trans and Homosexuals (especially because they are trans and homosexuals)
All of which --- non of these statements gets me to GOD IS REAL
-You nig the reason why people do that is to save you because their religion tells them to convert non-believers
-Kek.He did come out of hiding about 2000 years ago but they crucified him.
-https://www.tfp.org/persecution-church-soviet-union-story-needs-told/
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12521.html
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/anti.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160303220215/http://icl.nd.edu/assets/84231/the_demographics_of_christian_martyrdom_todd_johnson.pdf
-Completely ignored what I wrote there nigga
@Bantukaner - Circular argument My religion tells me to save you thefore I must save you.. Atheist: why do you believe your religion - Christian because I dont like the world ..Atheist: Why do I need saving ? Because my Relgion.. Come on man surely you can see this problem???? Atheist: How do you know he came out of hiding? because my bible says he did.. Atheist : why do you believe your bible Christian : because i dont like the world
and did you just quote a Christian website to support your Stalin theory - lol
I also never said anything about Homosexuality being Genetic.. so Im not sure your point there..
You are still to provide why Homosexuality is immoral
@Oupoes pretty sure I quoted from many a website about Stalin
Homosexuality from a evolution perspective is species suicide
literally proved why homosexuality is immoral
Yet homosexuality can be found in all forms of nature
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