Ahhh good to know

And, at risk of pointing out the obvious, nowhere has The BannerFuhrer declared any intention to produce banners with swastikas on them. Duh.

Females aren't the only ones who administer shit tests.

Enlighten me, APB? AF?

American Front

@Jimmy Marr if you don't include swastikas on at least 1 banner I will consume your rotten corpse myself

and AF Support Club: American Patriots Brigade

Got it.

@Wehrmacht That's why you wear a mask.

So you (personally) won't get on the news.

the problem is: they will refer to you as nazis whether you use a swastika or not.

all the more reason to go all out!

It's good to see you gentlemen putting some storm back in brainstorming.⚡ Don't let your spirit be dampened, @Wehrmacht 🌧

American front and the American patriots brigade

Thanks uberfuhrer

If they call u Nazis and u don't use ezplicit imagery u make them look crazy

Rules for radicals

Explicit*

Once someone calls u Nazi all bets are off and Nazi out. Dobt show up as Nazis. This is psychological warfare fam

A battle for the mind of the normies with dormant Aryan spirits

We have a fundamental disagreement there. But this would be a circular conversation, so I don't think it's productive to have it. It's my understanding that there will be multiple locations meaning multiple banners (provided we can supply the man power) the easy fix in my mind would be for the banner Fuhrer to produce 1 banner with our holy symbol for those open NS in the group & the remainder with out for those that are still in their "sneaky Nazi" phase or trying to reach the unreachable normies or however you want to classify it.

I think that myself & the AW fellas could/would/will man the swastika banner.

Personally I am seeking firefighters, men willing to risk their lives to fight the Jewish flame, there is no better way to find those men then to set the goddamn house on fire.

I'm fairly sure other than Jimmy I'm the only other open Nazi here

The difference between you and I it seems is that I've read Saul Alinsky and want to implement his tactics against our enemy

Those are called tactless tactics

No problem, @My Name Is Hate , I'll produce your swastika banners for you in exchange for your performance of an animal sacrifice.

You give our enemies something very easy to Rally against and attack rather than subverting them and everybody else

Like I said, I think it's only going to be a circular conversation. You keep trying to sneak in the back door, let me know how that works out for you.

Like you said everybody already knows what we are waving innocuous Flags that dog whistle what you are just make it harder for them to point the finger in Scream ebil Nazi

Well let me know when you get out at as a Nazi for the posters that you put up and then come back and tell me that I'm sneaky

... preferable a virgin ewe.

No problem, man is an animal. You only want 1?

They have 'em all along the freeway in the area where we'll be working.

2 legged hairless beasts is all you'll get from me.

Either everyone drinks the blood or I take my toys and go home.

Speaking of which, my toy hasn't even been delivered yet.

One more time, if it's not going to be productive I'm not interested in having it. Sneaky Nazi is a very obvious Rockwell reference, not a personal attack.

@Jimmy Marr Did they give you an ETA?

Today.

... but I'm going to have a long learning curve ahead of me and my main computer wiz and graphics design nigger, @seapea also appears to be on strike over aesthetic differences.

get the tracking number Jimmy.

I'm on strike huh? cool.

For this ^^^ I pay him the big bucks.

I feel like sneaky nazi isn't descriptive of me

Joke Hitler killed 6 million Jews

Broke there weren't six million Jews in Europe

Woke the only thing Hitler did wrong was not gas Jews

The problem is: it will always be seen as "nazi" or "racist" when you bring up anything such as remote racialism from a white man's perspective.

"normies" will never be won over one way or the other. whether you're a die hard 110% nazi activist or your an "identitarian" in variety.

Demonstrations such as this serve as a good form of recruiting for those that *are* like minded.

They show these like minded individuals that "these guys *ARE* out there doing something: I want to be a part of it"

The vinyl cutter has arrived.

vinyl cutter?

for the banners

cut that funky vinyl hu'white boy!

Oh I see

https://youtu.be/qUlC7oVEtrk

This is a must see. They are so well organized.

A bunch of fags dressed in black running amuck breaking inanimate objects is not what I would call organized. I would classify it as chaotic.

I mean in the web

On

lmao

Don't listen to those lying bourgeoisie white kids. The true agenda of Antifa is trash can genocide.

I'll be active this week.

I've been in the process of trying to solve our lack of funding. Things are slowly coming together, I'll have more details once things are a little more concrete.

Who has a lack of funding and what is it forestalling?

Idk about you, but I live paycheck to paycheck. Money can do a lot of things, imagine if we had a white Soros. We could fund propaganda, bus people around, put on events, etc.

Obviously we can still do those things now, just in a more limited capacity and with a lot more effort extended.

I see. I thought maybe you had a particular project in mind that was at a standstill due to lack of money.

Are you between jobs?

No, this is more of a big picture thing. Nope. I'm working.

I see.

I remember you talking about making a change and I was wondering if that was the problem

No, I just got tired of treating water and wanted to make a bigger change.

Are you and other PDXers thinking about coming down to Central Oregon to join with us for Eclipse related activities?

Yes actually, I should have my schedule for next month this week. What days?

Nothing is set in concrete yet. I expect there will be a smattering of independent activities depending on individual schedules. The big day, of course is Monday, August 21.

I'm at work right now, so I just submitted a shift trade request for the 21st.

@beornmod the weekend window for eclipse activity will be Aug 18-21 just FYI

I'm currently scheduled for work the 18th-22nd, but I may be able to go for the day on Monday

If you try to go somewhere Monday, you won't get very far I think. The eclipse is at 10 something in the morning, and we speculate that freeways and highways will be jammed.

Well I should be getting off at 430 on Sunday

If I understand correctly, we all plan on being done with operation sonnenrad by Sunday night and all camped together somewhere very remote to watch the eclipse in the morning.

Okay, I'll talk it over with some of the goys this Tuesday

Sounds like we should be able to figure something out

Nothin' will eclipse muh activism.

All hands on deck will be needed to hold banner, so you boys should plan on wearing your Cascadia flags as capes, mkay?

We're gonna be like caped crusaders in Batman masks. Too bad we don't have dirt bikes to skirt traffic.

This what we need funds for.

I thought you didn't like crusaders Jimmy

>we fund ourselves into becoming an MC

Lol

Yeah, well, I'm "flexible" on certain applications.

If they're crusading yids and hadjis, it all good

As long as it looks cool.

And makes lots of noise, I'm down with it.

Is that why you like the bagpipes so much?

Duh..

Lol I mentioned something about that night with the bagpipes at the LL in the DS Discord server a few weeks ago and Weev goes "Wait, are you with the PDX Stormers?"

I'm pretty happy with how far that story went

If we can't raise the money for dirt bikes, we can at least get @BotsRob up there with his chainsaw to make the sounds and we'll just run around like we're on air bikes.

With the capes and all, I doubt any spectators will be the wiser, especially if @Uberhat is involved.

Or we could try to chain up the saw to a normal bike's spokes

>Antifa tries to jump us but they find us running in circles around @BotsRob revving a chainsaw

>Antifa slowly backs away

Once you get south of Wilsonville you can forget about encountering any serious group of antifags unless you give them notice well in advance.

To be on the safe side, we should probably keep a garbage can nearby as a decoy for them to attack.

Ten feet of resistance:

so how did you make this one?

vinyl?

why ten feet of resist?

You think that's the size it ought to be?

That's some fine-looking lettering, General Marr.

I do indeed like the lettering

@khimære I cut that with the new vinyl cutter. The cut vinyl letters are black and still attached to their white paper liner. Initially the paper liner was completely covered with black vinyl film. The paper backed film is fed through the cutter which lightly scores only the top vinyl layer. Then the vinyl is "weeded", which consists of peeling off reverse image portions. This is the stage shown in the photo.

The next step involves rolling out 2ft wide transfer tape over the to pick them up off the paper liner while maintaining their spacing. The transfer tape, with letters attached will then be rolled out onto a vinyl banner substrate, squeegeed down and back rolled to leave on the black letter on white vinyl banner substrate.

Holy shit

It's roughly 10 feet long simply because that's how much space six letters of that font happen to take up.

The next section will also be about 10ft long because "RACIAL" has the same number of letters, but I want those letters to be white, so I will "reverse weed" the vinyl on it's paper liner before transferring it to the white vinyl banners substrate to produce white letters in a black background, then on to the final word "ECLIPSE" which will be back the the black letters on white background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYc5GxaI4Gk

We need to get you a vinyl intern and churn these things out full-time!

@Jimmy Marr you're a fuckin badass. #NeverForget

Thoughts on the value and purpose of propaganda as we move into our Eclipse activism campaign:

"The purpose of propaganda is not to change what you think, but to change what you think your neighbor thinks. People all think they are special and unique but actually even the outliers are 99% like everyone else. So if they harbor reservations about obvious lies, they should be able to realize that so does everyone else. But they don't. Because they're different. They unthinkingly think. This is why propaganda actually works. So when you hear "Diversity is our greatest strength," you say "that's absurd" to yourself inwardly. Nevertheless, you assume that there must be a lot of people who actually do believe this, so you'd better keep quiet about it. And that's where they get you. Actually, almost no one believes this except the retarded portion of the community (public school teachers). Everyone else feels the way you do. Thus is a large-majority view stifled, dominated and politically extinguished by a tiny-minority view. A related conception is that the purpose of propaganda is not to get you to believe its obvious lies but to prevent you from publicly opposing them. They don't need your support, (((they))) need your lack of open resistance." - A. Linder

A perfect example of this phenomenon was seen during Trump's presidential campaign in which the enemyedia steadfastly refused to televise the audiences at Trump rallies. The didn't care as much about people seeing Trump and they cared about people seeing people seeing Trump. Follow me dawg?

This is why when we document our activism in a photographs and videos we should not try to focus on the activism per se, but on creating a visual context whereby people are seen consuming our content.

This is how we make our shit "kosher".

As long as I'm on this topic, I might as well go on and offer you gentlemen some constructive criticism for your consideration as you debate whether or not to wear masks during our activism. It's self-defeating. The message it sends creates exactly the opposite effect of the case cited above. You're essentially telling your audience that it is not OK to endorse your message.

The media is the message.

ALWAYS wear masks

not just to protect yourself from antifa, but from the real enemy.

Jimmy's right, ditch the masks.

I disagree with this.

the thing is the majority of people do not agree with us.

sure they may not fully agree with that general narrative however: the lemming generally does not care.

They might on that more unconscious level prefer to stay with their own (in larger numbers, but again: unconsciously) however otherwise: they do not agree with us.

They do not come to that point of thinking (usually) until they are *pushed* to that point.

though that is a bit of a different subject.

It doesn't have to be one way or the other. I would suggest carefully considering the pros and cons of mask wearing individually in the context of a particular activism project. In the case of an overpass demonstrations anonymity is not not typically at risk unless and until someone exits the freeway, circles around, parks and approaches the demonstrators on foot. At that point, demonstrators wishing to disguise themselves have ample time to don a mask.

There is also the variable of the passerby on the overpasses.

Yes, it's dependent on the particular overpass.

how so? an overpass is an overpass.

Cross traffic on freeway overpasses varies enormously. Most rural overpasses with no on and off ramps don't even have sidewalks because pedestrian traffic is virtually non existent. Vehicular traffic is sparse and visibility of oncoming traffic is high.

@khimære Your position is instructive and I hope you won’t be offended if I use it to validate Alex’s thesis that most whiteskins share our beliefs.

Your strong advocacy for the wearing of masks is clear evidence that you fear the consequences of being identified with your beliefs. If you’re afraid, why would normies not be afraid? It's far more likely that they are afraid, but find hiding their opinions easier than hiding their faces. Our mission, as I see it, is to allay those fears.

No it is simply stupid not to wear a mask.

You only make yourself a target otherwise.

Look at it the same way that one shouldn't get face tattoos.

but yes there ARE consequences, and you should go about doing these things in a smarter fashion.

This is the one area where antifa is acting a lot smarter than the majority of reactionary types.

on another note, it removes that individual identity as it is the message and presentation that matters.

and why would it matter whether normies are afraid or not? If anything that is good.

Sure they may scorn you either way, but you'll get a lot more out of them if they fear you.

This is why the more openly nazi groups (such as NA) masking themselves have been so successful in their networking.

I think the best example of effective activism is currently being set by Richard Spencer et al, and I can't imagine them being as effective if they were dressed like bank robbers.

>Richard Spencer

That is not at all effective. They are doing the exact same stuff that was done decades ago. It is not working.

Time to rob those "diversity" banks and empty out their rainbow vaults. Skittles for everybody! Taste our rainbows!

🌈 🔫😷

I personally think Spencer is the best thing going, but not everyone has the ability to mimic that style, so hopefully each of us will find the place in the world of racial activism where he is best suited.

the best thing going? Don't make me laugh!

If *that* is the best thing going, then we're all doomed.

We may well be doomed.

*antifa* does more for our struggle than Richard Spencer and the Alt-right does.

While the alt-right keeps trying to appeal to a system that seeks their destruction: Antifa is at least facilitating a further semblance of instability.

It could be true that antifa does more in spite of their intentions, but I don't think that is a good reason to imitate them.

It has nothing to do with imitating them. and the DO far more for revolution than the Alt-right.

Sure the positive messages of the National Alliance are good messages however it is nothing to build a whole platform for.

around* not for

@Australopithecus Jordan has been typing for fifteen minutes and still nothing...

Richard Spencer has done a lot more for making pro-White views acceptable and mainstream than NA. He navigates choppy waters well and hides his power level just enough to get by. Masks should only be worn if you are planning on committing an actual crime. In America we still have freedom of thoughts and speech even if the jews don't like what we have to say. They can't put you in jail for saying, "hey, I don't like hebrew nationals shoved in my anus." They may target you in other ways, make threats, but we should all be willing to be called names and take a little flak for our non-ZOG approved views. If our message is simply pro-White then I see no need to mask. If our message could be construed in any way as "hate or threats towards a specific group or individual" then masks may be best, to avoid law suits or phony charges. (of coarse we would never make threats because we follow the law 100%.)

Sneaky Nazis wear masks

No, it has made it only more socially acceptable, just being "pro-white".

and honestly: if it is not Fascism, then it is wrong.

In addition, those with concerns for being unjustly fired or having their family attacked should wear masks, there is no one right way as Jimmy said.

sure Richard Spencer might make things a little more socially acceptable but NA were taken far more seriously.

THAT is what you want.

Nope^

Terrorist watch list is for sand niggers not white men

NA looked like a bunch of wimpy teenagers mostly. I love them but I don't think they are the future. They were the start.

No, their platform was a start. One that is far superior as a NS organization.

being "pro-white" is *not* enough.

The line must be drawn somewhere and with standards.

If that was to get anywhere: it already would have.

If you got to wear a mask, wear a burka. It will confuse the shit out of everybody.

http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/burka-sunglasses.jpg

No compromise. You will be taken far more seriously and respected.

rather than Richard Spencer and his big band of Fags and other degenerates.

even mixed breeds as long as they are "pro-white"

As our movement grows we become more socially acceptable. We should capitalize on that. We want school kids doing Nazi salutes in the halls like it is normal to say, "Heil Hitler".

Standards.

Either go 100% or don't do it at all.

Richard Spencer is the type to have a moment of roman salutes and then "oh no it was just a gesture of *exuberance!*

anyways i gotta go

You are failing to see the bigger picture. How all White Nationalist/National Socialist/"Fascist" groups are a part of the picture being painted. It is fine to have a gradient that starts at pro-White, as long as jewish elements are not tolerated.

"Either go 100% or don't do it at all." That's absolutely correct. Show your entire self.

naked activism

muh dick

Femen

Pussy Riot

I would say that it's probably best to look like the people you'd like to influence.

That's why I stopped wearing kilts.

White nationalism =/= National Socialism

But thats it! The alt-right tolerates that jewish element

No, doing it 100% or not has nothing to do with whether or not you show your face.

Times have changed, there is and will never be an electoral victory

As i said, Richard Spencer is exactly what you DONT want to be. Performing roman salutes and then shying away from it when someone brings up nazi stuff

I do not fail to see the bigger picture, in fact I am looking at the bigger picture. This reactionary approach does not work.

Read Saul Alinsky

Read Siege.

I have

Now go read Alinsky

Read it again.

It applies to now.

Nah, it was ok.

Alinsky will give you insight into how our enemies work and how to undermine then with their own tactics

Which enemy?

Jews

The minions or the system itself?

Kikes

And their Golem

Jews could be anything

From the ones in power to the common one.

Right. Because they change shape

No, because many Jews are commoners as well

Jews are any progressive brainwashed by globalist kikes

The system (with of course the jewish influence) is the enemy.

Brainwashed by the Marxism of the Frankfurt school

Commoner Jews are still jews

Ok but are you fighting the minions or the master?

The master

Read alinksy

I know theyre still kikes, what I am saying is they are not relevant next to the system itself.

That's how you fight the kikes pulling the strings

For example: why beat up random blacks on the street? When you could fuck up the black drug dealer that is turning that place into a slum? Cut out a lot of time

For instance: Alinsky would advocate owning whatever someone calls you to shut down conversation. (I.e. Nazi in this instance)

You need to understand tactics of war and seige is completely bereft of that

Completely

My problem here is where too many reactionaries are focusing more emphasis on antifa rather than the real enemy, the government.

They are the militant arm of the Bolshevik kikes

Who WOULDN'T want to gas them? Theyre deplorable

And yet prove to do more for us than the reactionary alt-right.

What is bad for the system is good for us.

Of course they would be gassed, in the event of siezing power

No, because we remain trapped in the system.

Because you allow yourself to be.

When we vote for bolshevils to ruin america you still give your money to them

You do what they want

So?

We *want* america to fall