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2018-06-19 02:43:04 UTC

The letter G (instead of a face)

2018-06-19 02:46:49 UTC

Why not E?

2018-06-19 02:47:13 UTC

or πŸ…±

2018-06-19 02:48:52 UTC

Imply Google, but since Google's symbol is a G, it's easier to tweak away from being sueable.

2018-06-19 02:55:49 UTC


2018-06-19 02:57:47 UTC

the true G man

2018-06-19 02:59:49 UTC


2018-06-19 03:31:28 UTC

I like that.

2018-06-19 03:31:51 UTC

Also, I'm pretty sure the Goolag shirts were allowed

2018-06-19 03:31:56 UTC

also, I done did it again

2018-06-19 03:32:10 UTC

I think I savaged another facebook chain...

2018-06-19 03:32:20 UTC

I feel like a ringer when it comes to this...

2018-06-19 03:32:26 UTC


2018-06-19 03:32:39 UTC

"T" was the person that posted the first picture.

2018-06-19 03:33:01 UTC

in response to C's rambling post.

2018-06-19 03:34:50 UTC

I think I was a little more vicious in this one, though.

2018-06-19 03:51:09 UTC

Slightly. I'd also want to say whenever a law is put in place, people will try to game the system. It's Occam's razor to say those who try to game the system are the ones who can most gain from it. In this case, that would be traffickers.

2018-06-19 04:03:40 UTC

This guy just made a fool of himself.

2018-06-19 04:03:55 UTC

T is trying to convince people that Hitler was jewish.

2018-06-19 04:06:34 UTC

The type of people the west needs.


2018-06-19 04:11:59 UTC

I'm going to assume I didn't read the name Te***. @RyeNorth

2018-06-19 04:14:14 UTC


2018-06-19 04:15:21 UTC


2018-06-19 04:16:52 UTC

He's now going on about how he knows Trump personally, and that Hitler was a Jew.

2018-06-19 04:19:26 UTC

I can't say for sure but I think it's very unlikely that Hitler was a Jew or even part Jew.

2018-06-19 04:21:02 UTC

Uh, Trump hasn't been opposed to the idea of Mexican or Muslims in the US. Just particular ones who would violate law. It doesn't extend to the entire groups.

2018-06-19 04:21:27 UTC

We all know Trump is just a civic nationalist.

2018-06-19 04:21:34 UTC

I don't even like Trump, why do I have to defend him?

2018-06-19 04:21:50 UTC

I feel the same way.

2018-06-19 04:22:31 UTC

I think this explains his role quite well.


2018-06-19 04:23:07 UTC

Isnt IQ subjective? I am not too sure as to how its measured but I am sure that 100IQ means average to people of your Economic status, current lving status, age.

2018-06-19 04:23:28 UTC

Like IQ goes down as you get older if your intelligence stays the same.

2018-06-19 04:24:43 UTC

So if you compare educated europeans or americans to uneducated people in a poor nation, you will get people who are considered low IQ, because you compared the equivalent of inbred hillbillies to people who have gone through university

2018-06-19 04:25:04 UTC

When their IQ would be considered average for where they are.

2018-06-19 04:25:57 UTC

So like kinda saying, "you must be retarded if you cant do X even though our society has made it very easy to learn how to do X"

2018-06-19 04:26:58 UTC

Thats just it. Our society has made it easy to do X, but others haven't or don't care to due to religious or cultural differences. So yeah, intelligence is relative I guess.

2018-06-19 04:27:16 UTC

But its still better to have a high IQ than not.

2018-06-19 04:27:24 UTC

There is a reason IQ tests are only pattern recog tests

2018-06-19 04:28:01 UTC

IQ is a measure of potential.

2018-06-19 04:28:02 UTC

Cause you cant expect a westerner to know which trash is valuable as to a Mid Easterner to know the concept of relativity

2018-06-19 04:28:14 UTC

If that.

2018-06-19 04:29:14 UTC

IQ measures intelligence. Yes environment dose matter but it's at most only 50% the other 50% is genes. Alot of the confusion around IQ is because of Stephen Jay Gould which the video I linked here covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXcsl-WWu8&index=2&list=PLYVe2PZn3Xgvo5wt8dcqTxTnSX8QCucS5

2018-06-19 04:30:01 UTC

Its supposed to be a bell curve something.

2018-06-19 04:30:32 UTC

The smarter everyone is, the "harder" it would be to get to 100 iq

2018-06-19 04:30:44 UTC

Nobody's saying IQ is meaningless. We're just saying it's a shitty way to justify someone's existance.

2018-06-19 04:31:14 UTC

That's true as well, Ginga. 100 is supposed to be the average.

2018-06-19 04:31:28 UTC

Well for me its that its hard to quantify IQ unless you boild it down to very abstract tests

2018-06-19 04:31:53 UTC

And that IQ takes into account other factors like economic status and age

2018-06-19 04:33:08 UTC

@GingaBomber That depends on the Group, for exsample the average IQ for whites is 100 while some other groups have a higher IQ or a lower IQ and you have to remember that it's a average so some people are smarter than the average, some are less intelligent and some are average that's just how it works.

2018-06-19 04:33:55 UTC

Which means that there will always be the 50% of white people with below average IQ

2018-06-19 04:34:06 UTC

Yes I know.

2018-06-19 04:34:29 UTC

it was a question actually, forgot thw ?

2018-06-19 04:35:03 UTC

I though it was a statement.

2018-06-19 04:35:10 UTC

Cause i forgot the ?

2018-06-19 04:35:34 UTC

Dunno if 50% is correct

2018-06-19 04:35:40 UTC

Hell I dont recall the bell curve

2018-06-19 04:35:44 UTC

Yes there will be 50% below the average.

2018-06-19 04:36:32 UTC

Then theres that EQ nonsense

2018-06-19 04:38:47 UTC

I don't know much about EQ I just know visual spatial is useless for any group that can use maps.

2018-06-19 04:39:43 UTC

Emotional Q?

2018-06-19 04:39:49 UTC


2018-06-19 04:40:02 UTC


2018-06-19 04:40:55 UTC

Is dyslexia hell?

2018-06-19 04:41:08 UTC

Yes it's fucking annoying.

2018-06-19 04:41:27 UTC

Oh come on.

2018-06-19 04:41:31 UTC

Gifs aren't working. 😦

2018-06-19 04:41:42 UTC

Does it affect typing, or just reading?

2018-06-19 04:41:50 UTC

Like say if you proof reading

2018-06-19 04:41:51 UTC

most definitely affects his typing

2018-06-19 04:41:52 UTC

it's genetic

2018-06-19 04:41:55 UTC

Mostly spelling these days.

2018-06-19 04:42:10 UTC

Genetic? Huh, thought it was so benign that it pops up everywhere

2018-06-19 04:42:27 UTC

I'm just saying, it's due to his inferior genes.

2018-06-19 04:42:38 UTC

Eh, arnt we all

2018-06-19 04:42:42 UTC

Actually, I recall.

2018-06-19 04:42:47 UTC

Terra formars

2018-06-19 04:43:05 UTC

If my case is caused by genetics I won't have kids I just need to be tested so I can know.

2018-06-19 04:43:30 UTC

That would be even more hellish though, wouldn't it?

2018-06-19 04:43:42 UTC

wanting to be able to have kids, but not being able to because of some ideology?

2018-06-19 04:43:47 UTC

I can adopt.

2018-06-19 04:43:53 UTC


2018-06-19 04:44:32 UTC

adopt, change, overcome

2018-06-19 04:44:35 UTC

Wait, its adapt

2018-06-19 04:44:37 UTC


2018-06-19 04:44:48 UTC

adopt, adapt, overcome?

2018-06-19 04:44:50 UTC

I see it as immoral to give people dyslexia.

2018-06-19 04:45:08 UTC

So, uh...

2018-06-19 04:45:24 UTC

But how you know it will 100% show up?

2018-06-19 04:45:34 UTC

It doesn't matter.

2018-06-19 04:45:41 UTC

So if my dyslexia is cased by some genes I have I won't have kids.

2018-06-19 04:45:48 UTC

It's a genetic disease. It's still possible to pass it on to grandkids.

2018-06-19 04:46:06 UTC

By eugenics, you can't allow those genes to pass.

2018-06-19 04:46:17 UTC

That's why I wouldn't have kids so the gene can die out.

2018-06-19 04:46:21 UTC

His genetic branch ends with him.

2018-06-19 04:46:55 UTC

If that is what needs to happen so future people can be better so be it.

2018-06-19 04:46:59 UTC

A long lineage that lead to this person, cut short because he's an ideologically consistent nazi.

2018-06-19 04:47:16 UTC

As much as I can respect someone who sticks to his beliefs, I dislike people who cuck themselves or suffer for the "greater good"

2018-06-19 04:47:36 UTC

Well, that's all the more reason he should, though.

2018-06-19 04:48:07 UTC

But I could just imagine him asking for full genetic samples of potential adopted children

2018-06-19 04:48:19 UTC

I grew up amonst really competitive parents, mine wernt

2018-06-19 04:48:25 UTC

You realize adoption agencies can say no, right?

2018-06-19 04:48:49 UTC

Uhhh yeah, Aussie, i mentioned getting a nice girl right?

2018-06-19 04:49:07 UTC

Yes I would want to raise kids with good genes. I don't want to raise low IQ disabled kids.

2018-06-19 04:49:29 UTC

And you only lovethem for something you cant controll

2018-06-19 04:49:49 UTC

Who says people with bad genes would have kids in the future.

2018-06-19 04:50:16 UTC

Or that those could be fixed?

2018-06-19 04:50:37 UTC

I mean, do you think your eugenic utopia is going to happen in the next 20 years?

2018-06-19 04:50:42 UTC

I really don't see that happening.

2018-06-19 04:50:52 UTC

And if it does, you want to know the costs?

2018-06-19 04:51:05 UTC

The Tau

2018-06-19 04:51:48 UTC

I see it like this. We have eugenics or civilization will die out.

2018-06-19 04:51:48 UTC

Hell, they will probably just hang people like all of us here.

2018-06-19 04:52:11 UTC

I see it like this. We've come this far without it.

2018-06-19 04:52:26 UTC

No we haven't mate.

2018-06-19 04:52:34 UTC

Oh shit, is this the matrix?

2018-06-19 04:52:39 UTC

We lost rome, we lost britan, we lost 90% of the earths population before

2018-06-19 04:52:40 UTC

Have you heard of the war on murder?

2018-06-19 04:52:41 UTC

Are we not actually alive today?

2018-06-19 04:52:55 UTC

Oh shit, that sounds serious, m8

2018-06-19 04:53:05 UTC

If anything humans are good at adapting to almost anything

2018-06-19 04:53:11 UTC

^ ^ ^

2018-06-19 04:53:23 UTC

All you can do is to prepare yourself while the rest of society grow lazy and subservient

2018-06-19 04:53:38 UTC


2018-06-19 04:53:41 UTC

That is no reason. You are being dependant on others "doing the right thing"

2018-06-19 04:54:07 UTC

Basically England killed alot of crimals for hundreds of years which stoped the genes from passing on to the next generation.

2018-06-19 04:54:10 UTC

And as a result you give up your own personal happiness. Only you can be 100% sure on your own actions.

2018-06-19 04:54:37 UTC

Except for the criminals that already had children

2018-06-19 04:54:46 UTC


2018-06-19 04:55:10 UTC

I just think that people in the future should be better and one way of doing that is for them to have better genes.

2018-06-19 04:55:26 UTC

That's a perfectly fine thought to have

2018-06-19 04:55:35 UTC

We are not arguing that thats a bad thing here

2018-06-19 04:55:39 UTC

Yes some criminals did have children but alot didn't because they were dead.

2018-06-19 04:55:44 UTC

It's enforcement of that that I have a problem with.

2018-06-19 04:56:10 UTC

You aren't limiting this to harsh enforcement of law, though.

2018-06-19 04:56:12 UTC

So you want soming but you don't want to do what is needed to get it?

2018-06-19 04:56:20 UTC

You're drawing a line, and telling people they have to walk it

2018-06-19 04:56:28 UTC

You think anyone can be trusted with the power needed to bring it?

2018-06-19 04:56:30 UTC

Under the presumption that you know best

2018-06-19 04:57:02 UTC

A govt that decides for you that your child is forfiet. A govt that only allows certain groups to breed. Eventually that will even get corrup

2018-06-19 04:57:03 UTC

the problem with that is that people like me exist who will resist you with everything, because to people like me, life without liberty IS death.

2018-06-19 04:57:05 UTC

If you don't support eugenics you are just letting dysgenics occur.

2018-06-19 04:57:19 UTC

People like me fight over every scrap.

2018-06-19 04:57:22 UTC

You think we against trying to fix the issues in the first place?

2018-06-19 04:57:38 UTC

We have treatments being researched for shit like degenerative brain disorder.

2018-06-19 04:57:48 UTC

And aids for people who cant see or hear.

2018-06-19 04:57:54 UTC

@RyeNorth I'm sorry to tell you but most people just do what their told.

2018-06-19 04:58:07 UTC

Where flesh fails, tech will succeed

2018-06-19 04:58:12 UTC

Mmhmm. They'll do what they're told following people like me, too.

2018-06-19 04:58:26 UTC

Not everyone is sheep.

2018-06-19 04:58:31 UTC

^ ^ ^

2018-06-19 04:58:39 UTC

Like I said, only you can be 100% sure of your actions

2018-06-19 04:58:43 UTC

Other people you can not

2018-06-19 04:58:45 UTC

But most people are sheep that just how a society works.

2018-06-19 04:59:09 UTC

You focus too much on genetics, too much on conformity, and completely ignore the fact that either the race will live enslaved, or free will will ruin your plan.

2018-06-19 04:59:40 UTC

Your system will only work if the people under it follow the plan 100% to the letter.

2018-06-19 04:59:48 UTC

And if a race were to live enslaved, what's the damn point but eventual rebellion?

2018-06-19 04:59:56 UTC

We're not damned cattle.

2018-06-19 05:00:11 UTC

The higher the IQs grow, the more existential your sheep become.

2018-06-19 05:00:13 UTC

I think we dissagree about freedom for the race. I see it as being free from other races messing with us and you seem to see it as having democracy.

2018-06-19 05:00:55 UTC

No, I see it as having dictatorship.

2018-06-19 05:01:08 UTC

because there's no way that works without it.

2018-06-19 05:01:23 UTC

I dissagree the Japanes have higher average IQs but they repect their goverment. Goverment isn't the problem it's who runs the goverment that matters.

2018-06-19 05:01:23 UTC

Like I said, I dont like the amount of power given to the people who will oversee it

2018-06-19 05:01:37 UTC

And cause their govt gives the japs alot of leaway

2018-06-19 05:01:46 UTC

They also commit suicide at a much higher rate than the rest of the world.

2018-06-19 05:01:55 UTC

Like they told the UN to fuckoff everytime they try to police their morality

2018-06-19 05:01:57 UTC

Existentialism is a bitch.

2018-06-19 05:02:22 UTC

There is a reason why the intellectuals are very few, they tend to be celibate or deviants for some reason

2018-06-19 05:02:28 UTC

Not passing on the genes as much.

2018-06-19 05:02:39 UTC

And the abortions

2018-06-19 05:02:56 UTC

They tend to either overthink things to the point of neuroticism

2018-06-19 05:03:01 UTC

I don't see how democracy can work. Having your leader chosen by popularty contest is a stupid idea.

2018-06-19 05:03:04 UTC

Or they get lost in their vices.

2018-06-19 05:03:26 UTC

We think its stupid too. But its the best people got.

2018-06-19 05:03:28 UTC

That's why I'm damn glad we don't live in a democracy.

2018-06-19 05:03:48 UTC

Representative Republic, bitches.

2018-06-19 05:03:58 UTC

I kinda prefer republic however

2018-06-19 05:04:05 UTC

Even then its not perfect

2018-06-19 05:04:19 UTC

In the end, a jury of 12 people, on rotation, determine the laws.

2018-06-19 05:04:23 UTC

Well anything to prevent one small group from holding all the power to the point of corruption

2018-06-19 05:04:28 UTC

I dissagree. I think having a faicst goverment which has a focus of the race on the national level is the best system.

2018-06-19 05:06:11 UTC

I think having a small group of people holding alot of power is just going to happen so why not just have good people have that power?

2018-06-19 05:06:34 UTC

Inversely, why not rebel against that?

2018-06-19 05:06:52 UTC

Because it works.

2018-06-19 05:06:52 UTC

Do we have a way to do that now?

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2018-06-19 05:07:11 UTC

People are too volatile.

2018-06-19 05:07:13 UTC

Absolutely it does.

2018-06-19 05:07:19 UTC

Spread the idea around and wait for shit to hit the fan.

2018-06-19 05:07:25 UTC

In a fascist govt, you are stuck with it forever.

2018-06-19 05:07:39 UTC

Its too stable, to rigid to accomodate change

2018-06-19 05:07:41 UTC

Yes I know.

2018-06-19 05:08:04 UTC

And if the leadership changes, society will have to change faster than it can for the sake of them

2018-06-19 05:08:27 UTC

You can have tests, whatever, a secret cabal, but even then those things can be infiltrated and corrupted.

2018-06-19 05:08:28 UTC

Democracy can work in smaller countries, like finland.

2018-06-19 05:08:36 UTC

And even AI is not infallible

2018-06-19 05:08:53 UTC

Democracy, I'd argue, does require more heterogeneity.

2018-06-19 05:08:58 UTC

pardon my spelling

2018-06-19 05:09:17 UTC

I disagree with the accomodating to change thing but yes there should be some freedoms given to academics, scientists and those sorts of people so we can still have good ideas and advance.

2018-06-19 05:09:18 UTC

Unless we have a test that is 100% capable of choosing our God Emperor of the Imperium, keeping him immortal, and ensuring he does not stray from his task

2018-06-19 05:09:21 UTC

Then maybe

2018-06-19 05:09:46 UTC

For the emp'ruh

2018-06-19 05:09:47 UTC

Will a fascist govt allow changes that require them to cede some power

2018-06-19 05:10:03 UTC

You need a test to ensure that the person will do that as well

2018-06-19 05:10:25 UTC

Thats not even fascism at that point, thats a rational democray

2018-06-19 05:10:27 UTC

Complete freedoms for scientists would result in BioShock

2018-06-19 05:10:51 UTC

Fuck me, too much stellaris

2018-06-19 05:11:01 UTC

A fascist-dictatorship can easily turn communist dictatorship in the right hands with one assassination.

2018-06-19 05:11:16 UTC

I know there are some bad leaders that come around in doctorships but I think having a bad leader for a few years is better then having society be shitty forever.

2018-06-19 05:11:23 UTC

Communism is literally the worst thing ever

2018-06-19 05:11:49 UTC

It's the only system with no freedom and all poverty

2018-06-19 05:11:53 UTC

Authoritarianism in general

2018-06-19 05:11:56 UTC

Well dont get me wrong, if a fascist system would work, it wont now and not for a long time

2018-06-19 05:12:18 UTC

We dont have the safeguards, the societal behaviour, or the proper tests and procedures to ensure it happens.

2018-06-19 05:12:43 UTC

It can, but you are asking of things that are impossible of humans because of humans

2018-06-19 05:13:08 UTC

There was an African dictator who made his country the richest one in the continent within two years, and gave his citizens free education

2018-06-19 05:13:14 UTC

Humans are simply too volatile for a system that rigid. And to make it rigid, you make it hell

2018-06-19 05:13:15 UTC

Well I'm just a fascist. Keep in mind that fascism is just a autocratic goverment which is nationalistic which means civic nationalists can run the goverment.

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2018-06-19 05:13:36 UTC

I....don't think that's very accurate

2018-06-19 05:13:48 UTC

I am not disagreeing. I simply say that a fascist system is impossible under current circumstances because of humans

2018-06-19 05:14:19 UTC

An authoritharian govt can only be sure of itself for one generation.

2018-06-19 05:14:35 UTC

That's why we need to wait for things to get worse then the people will chose us or (((them))).

2018-06-19 05:14:57 UTC

That's awfully presumptuous.

2018-06-19 05:14:59 UTC

Or you realise that the people will go fuck both of you?

2018-06-19 05:15:34 UTC

>At some point people will choose between one utopian pipedream or another utopian pipedream

2018-06-19 05:16:26 UTC

That will be their only chose. Yo see most people don't want to live in anarchy so they will chose to have someone tell them what to do rather then just have no order.

2018-06-19 05:16:43 UTC

Well its like voting libertarian

2018-06-19 05:16:49 UTC

They find a leader to prop up that isnt either

2018-06-19 05:16:50 UTC

Wait, you think I'm promoting anarchy?

2018-06-19 05:17:12 UTC

Just for the record I don't believe in goverment I just see national socialism as the best goverment.

2018-06-19 05:17:49 UTC

>Just for the record I don't believe in government, but if we have government, it should be the biggest, baddest, most overbearing government possible!

2018-06-19 05:17:59 UTC

I mean

2018-06-19 05:18:02 UTC

I don't think your promoting anarchy I just see that it will happen if we or (((they))) don't take control.

2018-06-19 05:18:24 UTC

I mean, unrest will happen either way, sure

2018-06-19 05:18:31 UTC

but not to anarchy as an end

2018-06-19 05:18:48 UTC

Again it's not goverment that is the problem it's the people that run the goverment that matter.

2018-06-19 05:19:05 UTC

Imagine, if you will

2018-06-19 05:19:09 UTC

we're on the set of a movie.

2018-06-19 05:19:11 UTC

We've got a script

2018-06-19 05:19:14 UTC

it's a well written script

2018-06-19 05:19:19 UTC

let's say it's Saving Private Ryan

2018-06-19 05:19:25 UTC

time goes on

2018-06-19 05:19:27 UTC

some of the other actors

2018-06-19 05:19:37 UTC

have gone on to start improvising their lines

2018-06-19 05:19:44 UTC

other actors are going another way with the lines

2018-06-19 05:20:17 UTC

One of them is turning this into TWilight

2018-06-19 05:20:38 UTC

someone else is over here saying the movie's fucking Transformers or some shit

2018-06-19 05:20:40 UTC

I'm the one

2018-06-19 05:20:40 UTC

Thing is, you are beeing too sure on the right people being in power

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