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The letter G (instead of a face)
Why not E?
Imply Google, but since Google's symbol is a G, it's easier to tweak away from being sueable.
the true G man
I like that.
Also, I'm pretty sure the Goolag shirts were allowed
also, I done did it again
I think I savaged another facebook chain...
I feel like a ringer when it comes to this...
"T" was the person that posted the first picture.
in response to C's rambling post.
I think I was a little more vicious in this one, though.
Slightly. I'd also want to say whenever a law is put in place, people will try to game the system. It's Occam's razor to say those who try to game the system are the ones who can most gain from it. In this case, that would be traffickers.
This guy just made a fool of himself.
T is trying to convince people that Hitler was jewish.
The type of people the west needs.
He's now going on about how he knows Trump personally, and that Hitler was a Jew.
I can't say for sure but I think it's very unlikely that Hitler was a Jew or even part Jew.
Uh, Trump hasn't been opposed to the idea of Mexican or Muslims in the US. Just particular ones who would violate law. It doesn't extend to the entire groups.
We all know Trump is just a civic nationalist.
I don't even like Trump, why do I have to defend him?
I feel the same way.
I think this explains his role quite well.
Isnt IQ subjective? I am not too sure as to how its measured but I am sure that 100IQ means average to people of your Economic status, current lving status, age.
Like IQ goes down as you get older if your intelligence stays the same.
So if you compare educated europeans or americans to uneducated people in a poor nation, you will get people who are considered low IQ, because you compared the equivalent of inbred hillbillies to people who have gone through university
When their IQ would be considered average for where they are.
So like kinda saying, "you must be retarded if you cant do X even though our society has made it very easy to learn how to do X"
Thats just it. Our society has made it easy to do X, but others haven't or don't care to due to religious or cultural differences. So yeah, intelligence is relative I guess.
But its still better to have a high IQ than not.
There is a reason IQ tests are only pattern recog tests
IQ is a measure of potential.
Cause you cant expect a westerner to know which trash is valuable as to a Mid Easterner to know the concept of relativity
IQ measures intelligence. Yes environment dose matter but it's at most only 50% the other 50% is genes. Alot of the confusion around IQ is because of Stephen Jay Gould which the video I linked here covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXcsl-WWu8&index=2&list=PLYVe2PZn3Xgvo5wt8dcqTxTnSX8QCucS5
Its supposed to be a bell curve something.
The smarter everyone is, the "harder" it would be to get to 100 iq
Nobody's saying IQ is meaningless. We're just saying it's a shitty way to justify someone's existance.
That's true as well, Ginga. 100 is supposed to be the average.
Well for me its that its hard to quantify IQ unless you boild it down to very abstract tests
And that IQ takes into account other factors like economic status and age
@GingaBomber That depends on the Group, for exsample the average IQ for whites is 100 while some other groups have a higher IQ or a lower IQ and you have to remember that it's a average so some people are smarter than the average, some are less intelligent and some are average that's just how it works.
Which means that there will always be the 50% of white people with below average IQ
Yes I know.
it was a question actually, forgot thw ?
I though it was a statement.
Cause i forgot the ?
Dunno if 50% is correct
Hell I dont recall the bell curve
Yes there will be 50% below the average.
Then theres that EQ nonsense
I don't know much about EQ I just know visual spatial is useless for any group that can use maps.
Is dyslexia hell?
Yes it's fucking annoying.
Oh come on.
Gifs aren't working. 😦
Does it affect typing, or just reading?
Like say if you proof reading
most definitely affects his typing
Mostly spelling these days.
Genetic? Huh, thought it was so benign that it pops up everywhere
I'm just saying, it's due to his inferior genes.
Eh, arnt we all
Actually, I recall.
If my case is caused by genetics I won't have kids I just need to be tested so I can know.
That would be even more hellish though, wouldn't it?
wanting to be able to have kids, but not being able to because of some ideology?
I can adopt.
adopt, change, overcome
Wait, its adapt
adopt, adapt, overcome?
I see it as immoral to give people dyslexia.
But how you know it will 100% show up?
It doesn't matter.
So if my dyslexia is cased by some genes I have I won't have kids.
It's a genetic disease. It's still possible to pass it on to grandkids.
By eugenics, you can't allow those genes to pass.
That's why I wouldn't have kids so the gene can die out.
His genetic branch ends with him.
If that is what needs to happen so future people can be better so be it.
A long lineage that lead to this person, cut short because he's an ideologically consistent nazi.
As much as I can respect someone who sticks to his beliefs, I dislike people who cuck themselves or suffer for the "greater good"
Well, that's all the more reason he should, though.
But I could just imagine him asking for full genetic samples of potential adopted children
I grew up amonst really competitive parents, mine wernt
You realize adoption agencies can say no, right?
Uhhh yeah, Aussie, i mentioned getting a nice girl right?
Yes I would want to raise kids with good genes. I don't want to raise low IQ disabled kids.
And you only lovethem for something you cant controll
Who says people with bad genes would have kids in the future.
Or that those could be fixed?
I mean, do you think your eugenic utopia is going to happen in the next 20 years?
I really don't see that happening.
And if it does, you want to know the costs?
I see it like this. We have eugenics or civilization will die out.
Hell, they will probably just hang people like all of us here.
I see it like this. We've come this far without it.
No we haven't mate.
Oh shit, is this the matrix?
We lost rome, we lost britan, we lost 90% of the earths population before
Have you heard of the war on murder?
Are we not actually alive today?
Oh shit, that sounds serious, m8
If anything humans are good at adapting to almost anything
^ ^ ^
All you can do is to prepare yourself while the rest of society grow lazy and subservient
That is no reason. You are being dependant on others "doing the right thing"
Basically England killed alot of crimals for hundreds of years which stoped the genes from passing on to the next generation.
And as a result you give up your own personal happiness. Only you can be 100% sure on your own actions.
Except for the criminals that already had children
I just think that people in the future should be better and one way of doing that is for them to have better genes.
That's a perfectly fine thought to have
We are not arguing that thats a bad thing here
Yes some criminals did have children but alot didn't because they were dead.
It's enforcement of that that I have a problem with.
You aren't limiting this to harsh enforcement of law, though.
So you want soming but you don't want to do what is needed to get it?
You're drawing a line, and telling people they have to walk it
You think anyone can be trusted with the power needed to bring it?
Under the presumption that you know best
A govt that decides for you that your child is forfiet. A govt that only allows certain groups to breed. Eventually that will even get corrup
the problem with that is that people like me exist who will resist you with everything, because to people like me, life without liberty IS death.
If you don't support eugenics you are just letting dysgenics occur.
People like me fight over every scrap.
You think we against trying to fix the issues in the first place?
We have treatments being researched for shit like degenerative brain disorder.
And aids for people who cant see or hear.
@RyeNorth I'm sorry to tell you but most people just do what their told.
Where flesh fails, tech will succeed
Mmhmm. They'll do what they're told following people like me, too.
Not everyone is sheep.
^ ^ ^
Like I said, only you can be 100% sure of your actions
Other people you can not
But most people are sheep that just how a society works.
You focus too much on genetics, too much on conformity, and completely ignore the fact that either the race will live enslaved, or free will will ruin your plan.
Your system will only work if the people under it follow the plan 100% to the letter.
And if a race were to live enslaved, what's the damn point but eventual rebellion?
We're not damned cattle.
The higher the IQs grow, the more existential your sheep become.
I think we dissagree about freedom for the race. I see it as being free from other races messing with us and you seem to see it as having democracy.
No, I see it as having dictatorship.
because there's no way that works without it.
I dissagree the Japanes have higher average IQs but they repect their goverment. Goverment isn't the problem it's who runs the goverment that matters.
Like I said, I dont like the amount of power given to the people who will oversee it
And cause their govt gives the japs alot of leaway
They also commit suicide at a much higher rate than the rest of the world.
Like they told the UN to fuckoff everytime they try to police their morality
Existentialism is a bitch.
There is a reason why the intellectuals are very few, they tend to be celibate or deviants for some reason
Not passing on the genes as much.
And the abortions
They tend to either overthink things to the point of neuroticism
I don't see how democracy can work. Having your leader chosen by popularty contest is a stupid idea.
Or they get lost in their vices.
We think its stupid too. But its the best people got.
That's why I'm damn glad we don't live in a democracy.
Representative Republic, bitches.
I kinda prefer republic however
Even then its not perfect
In the end, a jury of 12 people, on rotation, determine the laws.
Well anything to prevent one small group from holding all the power to the point of corruption
I dissagree. I think having a faicst goverment which has a focus of the race on the national level is the best system.
I think having a small group of people holding alot of power is just going to happen so why not just have good people have that power?
Inversely, why not rebel against that?
Because it works.
Do we have a way to do that now?
People are too volatile.
Absolutely it does.
Spread the idea around and wait for shit to hit the fan.
In a fascist govt, you are stuck with it forever.
Its too stable, to rigid to accomodate change
Yes I know.
And if the leadership changes, society will have to change faster than it can for the sake of them
You can have tests, whatever, a secret cabal, but even then those things can be infiltrated and corrupted.
Democracy can work in smaller countries, like finland.
And even AI is not infallible
Democracy, I'd argue, does require more heterogeneity.
pardon my spelling
I disagree with the accomodating to change thing but yes there should be some freedoms given to academics, scientists and those sorts of people so we can still have good ideas and advance.
Unless we have a test that is 100% capable of choosing our God Emperor of the Imperium, keeping him immortal, and ensuring he does not stray from his task
For the emp'ruh
Will a fascist govt allow changes that require them to cede some power
You need a test to ensure that the person will do that as well
Thats not even fascism at that point, thats a rational democray
Complete freedoms for scientists would result in BioShock
Fuck me, too much stellaris
A fascist-dictatorship can easily turn communist dictatorship in the right hands with one assassination.
I know there are some bad leaders that come around in doctorships but I think having a bad leader for a few years is better then having society be shitty forever.
Communism is literally the worst thing ever
It's the only system with no freedom and all poverty
Authoritarianism in general
Well dont get me wrong, if a fascist system would work, it wont now and not for a long time
We dont have the safeguards, the societal behaviour, or the proper tests and procedures to ensure it happens.
It can, but you are asking of things that are impossible of humans because of humans
There was an African dictator who made his country the richest one in the continent within two years, and gave his citizens free education
Humans are simply too volatile for a system that rigid. And to make it rigid, you make it hell
Well I'm just a fascist. Keep in mind that fascism is just a autocratic goverment which is nationalistic which means civic nationalists can run the goverment.
I....don't think that's very accurate
I am not disagreeing. I simply say that a fascist system is impossible under current circumstances because of humans
An authoritharian govt can only be sure of itself for one generation.
That's why we need to wait for things to get worse then the people will chose us or (((them))).
That's awfully presumptuous.
Or you realise that the people will go fuck both of you?
>At some point people will choose between one utopian pipedream or another utopian pipedream
That will be their only chose. Yo see most people don't want to live in anarchy so they will chose to have someone tell them what to do rather then just have no order.
Well its like voting libertarian
They find a leader to prop up that isnt either
Wait, you think I'm promoting anarchy?
Just for the record I don't believe in goverment I just see national socialism as the best goverment.
>Just for the record I don't believe in government, but if we have government, it should be the biggest, baddest, most overbearing government possible!
I don't think your promoting anarchy I just see that it will happen if we or (((they))) don't take control.
I mean, unrest will happen either way, sure
but not to anarchy as an end
Again it's not goverment that is the problem it's the people that run the goverment that matter.
Imagine, if you will
we're on the set of a movie.
We've got a script
it's a well written script
let's say it's Saving Private Ryan
time goes on
some of the other actors
have gone on to start improvising their lines
other actors are going another way with the lines
One of them is turning this into TWilight
someone else is over here saying the movie's fucking Transformers or some shit
I'm the one
Thing is, you are beeing too sure on the right people being in power