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2018-05-31 22:12:48 UTC

What's wrong with a beard? And given that they can get their lives ruined by being near a woman, yet alone gave a relationship, who could blame them.

2018-05-31 22:12:58 UTC

This is what feminist wanted

2018-05-31 22:14:24 UTC

beards are fine

2018-05-31 22:14:56 UTC

unless u spend 2 hours a day treating it with beauty products and u cut it perfectly in the barber once a week

2018-05-31 22:15:14 UTC

and u wear superfashionable clothes

2018-05-31 22:15:20 UTC

Stop judging people....

2018-05-31 22:15:28 UTC

stop judging me for judging ppl

2018-05-31 22:16:34 UTC

It's late, I'm getting emotional maybe I shouldnt have typed that, was stupid

2018-05-31 22:17:06 UTC

possible you are just being kind of a dick also :P

2018-05-31 22:17:45 UTC

I sense emotional instability

2018-05-31 22:18:12 UTC

Lmao

2018-05-31 22:27:18 UTC

Smells like iron in here

2018-06-01 01:56:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/451927024257466370/34105134_1856167521351197_3299490676760117248_n.png

2018-06-01 02:05:26 UTC

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2018-06-01 02:16:11 UTC

you can say that with semen and scat too

2018-06-01 02:17:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/451932340743045120/13177355_10205146417773756_6982149668552447920_n.png

2018-06-01 02:31:24 UTC

lol

2018-06-01 02:31:39 UTC

is this loss

2018-06-01 03:12:29 UTC

no, but this is

2018-06-01 03:12:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/451946119497252896/87b.png

2018-06-01 03:16:27 UTC

Aw

2018-06-01 03:17:09 UTC

I didn't know they had free propaganda at google

2018-06-01 03:18:12 UTC

He doesn't even disquise it, he goes full marxist to the point of describing his life ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-06-01 04:18:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/451962750608867338/unknown.png

2018-06-01 04:55:18 UTC

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2018-06-01 05:05:19 UTC

man I miss left shark...

2018-06-01 05:12:46 UTC

When I see that I just see that guy from the yogscast

2018-06-01 14:05:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452110470720258068/33963830_1817794358526832_8130011639765270528_n.png

2018-06-01 14:09:39 UTC

thinks a highschool socialist

2018-06-01 14:09:40 UTC

Whoever made that picture clearly doesn't understand inflation.

2018-06-01 14:44:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452120137412116480/DejVdMzX0AE_oQW.jpg_large.jpg

2018-06-01 15:21:21 UTC

Thats... For teens

2018-06-01 15:21:32 UTC

What the hell are they reading these days

2018-06-01 16:25:52 UTC

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2018-06-01 16:54:26 UTC

I saw him live last night

2018-06-01 16:54:33 UTC

@GingaBomber if you take a look over that article, its basically health tips you'd probably find in any health class.

2018-06-01 16:54:51 UTC

so not actually a bad thing to put in a teen mag

2018-06-01 16:55:02 UTC

just like his videos, nothing really political, just a very thought provoking opinion on life

2018-06-01 16:55:35 UTC

yes. his sagely advice of clean your room

2018-06-01 16:56:00 UTC

thats an oversimplification, but yeah

2018-06-01 16:57:53 UTC

its a joke. He usually delivers that line in a way thats basically "its such a simple thing... WHY DONT YOU DO IT? be personal accountable."

2018-06-01 16:58:54 UTC

the reason it is a joke is that he has a point. Its such a simple thing that parents should have instilled in you that modern culture seems to have deemed unnecessary.

2018-06-01 16:59:00 UTC

yup

2018-06-01 16:59:02 UTC

that's the joke

2018-06-01 16:59:11 UTC

by the joke, I mean all of us

2018-06-01 16:59:21 UTC

we are the joke

2018-06-01 16:59:32 UTC

its one of those sad jokes

2018-06-01 17:01:56 UTC

i can honestly say that listening to him has reformed my life in a personal way

2018-06-01 17:02:31 UTC

being a default lazy dude

2018-06-01 17:05:09 UTC

I can also tell you his happiness is genuine knowing that he's helping people

2018-06-01 17:11:06 UTC

Yeah I agree on that, just that its kinda wierd finding that in a teen glamor mag

2018-06-01 17:11:20 UTC

Like you dont have mens books on how to wash your balls or something

2018-06-01 17:11:24 UTC

Actually I think they do

2018-06-01 17:16:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452158465054343169/34177471_1833443916713136_5616597284952211456_n.png

2018-06-01 17:17:07 UTC

i really wish clickbait didnt work

2018-06-01 17:18:40 UTC

maybe all news articles need to have click bait titles

2018-06-01 17:18:45 UTC

then its like crying wolf

2018-06-01 17:19:08 UTC

"You won't believe how many peopl died in Puerto Rico during the hurricane, click to find out!"

2018-06-01 17:19:12 UTC

"Fuck, are we this dumb?"

yes. yes we are.

2018-06-01 17:35:10 UTC

oh boy

2018-06-01 17:35:17 UTC

I gotta watch that movie again

2018-06-01 17:35:26 UTC

watched it many times as a kid in VHS

2018-06-01 18:19:09 UTC

@ZetaBlues stop posting BILD Articles, the channel is called shitposting - and comparing BILD to shit is an insult to excrements. ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-01 18:25:40 UTC

Wew lad. You sure got me. lmao

2018-06-01 18:33:22 UTC

But seriously... they are the reason i stopped trusting the media when i was like 6 years old ๐Ÿ˜

2018-06-01 19:09:06 UTC

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2018-06-01 19:10:42 UTC

Fake! There is no chainsaw on it!

2018-06-01 19:30:33 UTC

lol

2018-06-01 21:02:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452215471387836426/image.jpg

2018-06-01 21:02:51 UTC

Yes @ZetaBlues
A classic

2018-06-01 21:08:01 UTC

that's wyoming, not colorado

2018-06-01 21:08:10 UTC

for that CQC church environment

2018-06-01 21:08:51 UTC

yeah thats the joke, What. That map was put out by usa today as well.

2018-06-01 21:09:17 UTC

okay

2018-06-01 21:11:22 UTC

Cosmo, Covering the important stories of our time.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452217620142227457/DenEuMFU8AAVn02.png

2018-06-01 21:11:29 UTC

Who can't relate to that.

2018-06-01 21:14:53 UTC

Bitch so cold its a crisper.

2018-06-01 21:43:14 UTC

I canโ€™t say Iโ€™ve ever hated a woman I was romantically involved with so much that Iโ€™d trick her into giving herself a yeast infection.

2018-06-01 21:43:46 UTC

so he could eat the fruit or her vag?

2018-06-01 21:44:23 UTC

I assume heโ€™s eating the fruit

2018-06-01 21:45:15 UTC

If he was just gunna go down on her and wanted it to be fruit flavored he can buy flavored lubricant for under $10

2018-06-01 22:45:38 UTC

Iโ€™m curious to see where he got the 90-8-2 %s

2018-06-01 22:47:15 UTC

yeah personally i dont agree with the percentages but i do sort of agree with the system, though i also dont think the system accounts for anything after highschool graduation

2018-06-01 22:47:25 UTC

also certainly doesent apply to the whole world

2018-06-01 22:47:45 UTC

i made a comment on the video about that

2018-06-01 23:32:54 UTC

the evil capitalist...who doesn't believe in private property apparently.

2018-06-01 23:47:19 UTC

what you just said, does not fit anywhere into that entire video and i cant even imagine where it would fit into that video

2018-06-01 23:49:30 UTC

thats literally the name of the big round guy?

2018-06-01 23:51:07 UTC

yes but nothing in that video is about private property

2018-06-01 23:52:07 UTC

capitalist requires private property. the state usually doesn't like private property.

2018-06-01 23:52:54 UTC

and at the level of control they are talking about, neither would any of these people. as private property is something they cannot control

2018-06-01 23:59:45 UTC

you can control private property by being the one owning it

2018-06-01 23:59:59 UTC

which means you need to own it

2018-06-02 00:00:06 UTC

and if the owners will not give it over?

2018-06-02 00:02:25 UTC

besides the video is about education which is a public system whos only influince by the private sector is through influince in politics

2018-06-02 00:07:14 UTC

so what does he do with the 8% that is now in 100% or near 100% control of his own influence machine? Who want to eradicate the private sector, which is by his own design. since he just got 90% of the population to check out, they don't want anything to do with anything.

2018-06-02 00:07:23 UTC

2 percent are being attacked by the 8%

2018-06-02 00:09:03 UTC

he is up at the top of the power pyramid, what is he now forced to do with the middle of the pyramid, which was filled with his fellow capitalist that were under his control, but since they are getting older, and get voted out by the 8% who are interested in getting his power from him to destroy him.

2018-06-02 00:09:38 UTC

now the middle of the pyramid is filled with people who dislike him, and now have more direct control over at least 1 of this 2 influence tools.

2018-06-02 00:09:40 UTC

education

2018-06-02 00:11:45 UTC

voted out? these arnt people who are voted for, these are the people in control of who you can vote for

2018-06-02 00:12:37 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/452263232204439552/image.png

2018-06-02 00:12:54 UTC

well more so they influince you think about voting for because they fund the optics for the people they want you to vote for with far more money than what grass roots can accomplish

2018-06-02 00:14:42 UTC

really? like 6 people control all professors, all presidents of colleges, all teachers, all politicians, all people in the music industry, all people in the entertainment industry, AND they all get along?

2018-06-02 00:16:27 UTC

more than 6, but money does control those people yeah

2018-06-02 00:17:09 UTC

money controls the world we live in, and those with the most control over money have the most control over the world we live in

2018-06-02 00:17:46 UTC

money is not real.

2018-06-02 00:17:56 UTC

money controls only what you believe it controls

2018-06-02 00:18:12 UTC

at the end of the day money is only a place holder for labor

2018-06-02 00:19:01 UTC

something one person can give to another for the labor they have done, so they can go say "hey, i did x labor for this person, so that i can ask you to do y labor form, in exchange for something you can give to someone else for z labor"

2018-06-02 00:20:02 UTC

but his theory still assumes all the people with most money all like each other.

2018-06-02 00:20:04 UTC

thats a meaningless statement because weather or not money is real, if it represents something and what it represents is real and it represents a 1:1 ratio of that thing which it represents. THEN WHEN IM TALKING ABOUT MONEY im talking about that thing which it represents which is real

2018-06-02 00:20:24 UTC

they cannot control your labor

2018-06-02 00:20:39 UTC

you can let them use your labor

2018-06-02 00:20:55 UTC

that is the only way things work

2018-06-02 00:21:14 UTC

unless you are not capitalist, in which case you do not believe people control their own labor

2018-06-02 00:21:32 UTC

and we are back to my previous point that they are not really capitalist, just greedy

2018-06-02 00:21:44 UTC

they can control how much your labor is worth to them, and influince how much it is worth to others, to an extent that if they deem you worthless you will not be permited to coexist with society because 99% of our relationships with greater society are through money

2018-06-02 00:22:09 UTC

they do not control how much your labor is worth. you control that.

2018-06-02 00:22:14 UTC

nope

2018-06-02 00:22:25 UTC

no one is forcing you to work for anyone

2018-06-02 00:22:30 UTC

you get a job dont you? you dont MAKE a job

2018-06-02 00:22:41 UTC

i don't HAVE to go to a job.

2018-06-02 00:22:44 UTC

i choose to

2018-06-02 00:22:50 UTC

because its easier

2018-06-02 00:22:54 UTC

not because i have to

2018-06-02 00:23:01 UTC

if you choose to your worth is dictated by other people

2018-06-02 00:23:04 UTC

more over, i can MAKE my own job

2018-06-02 00:23:17 UTC

if you believe in private property, anyone can make their own job

2018-06-02 00:23:30 UTC

the only option you have if not to let your worth be decided by others and your only means of enforcing that is by not working

2018-06-02 00:24:15 UTC

what is stopping me, from making my own company, and what is stopping other people from picking how much my work is worth?

2018-06-02 00:24:54 UTC

nothing is stopping you from making your own company and nothing is stoping your worth to society being dictated by society

2018-06-02 00:25:28 UTC

little is stoping the worth your work is valued at by society being influinced by those whove horded the most value in society

2018-06-02 00:26:40 UTC

i can always reject societies offer

2018-06-02 00:27:13 UTC

i can get my own water, grow and harvest my own food, build my own shelter.... until you stop believing in private property

2018-06-02 00:27:23 UTC

can you own your own land?

2018-06-02 00:27:41 UTC

because if i remimber correctly you still pay property tax

2018-06-02 00:27:51 UTC

if you don't believe you can own your own land, then you are not capitalist, and we are back to my original point

2018-06-02 00:28:03 UTC

no ones a capitalist

2018-06-02 00:28:11 UTC

but yes, you can own your own land.

2018-06-02 00:28:23 UTC

but you need to use force to make it yours

2018-06-02 00:28:42 UTC

and only those willing to use force against you can take land from you that you occupy

2018-06-02 00:29:04 UTC

ultimately, your property is what you can physically defend

2018-06-02 00:29:10 UTC

well we currently live in a world where society as a concept owns all land and rents it out to everyone who has enough money and the rights to own it deemed by society

2018-06-02 00:29:45 UTC

most people are renting from society

2018-06-02 00:29:59 UTC

lots of people are renting from other people who are renting from society

2018-06-02 00:32:02 UTC

people avoid paying taxes all the time. and generally speaking they try much harder to get the money rather than take your land. And its not that you are necessarily renting. You are asked to pay for the stuff society has agreed everyone, yourself included, are entitled to use. If you do not want to agree to that, then you can go somewhere where you are not forced to use that public property to access and live.

2018-06-02 00:32:30 UTC

although you can also live off the grid. then you don't pay any taxes and for the most part people don't bother you

2018-06-02 00:35:12 UTC

there arnt many places in the world where society of some kind doesent claim an ownership and expect you to endebt yourself for life in order to call it your own against others who live in that society. people do avoid paying taxes and they do try much harder to get money rather than take your land but if they have people they think will use your land better than you do who dont currently have it you will be seen as replacible

2018-06-02 00:35:34 UTC

even alaska isint free

2018-06-02 00:38:11 UTC

well at the end of the day its still whatever you can physically defend. You can say i owe you all the money in the world. what you gonna do if i don't pay?

2018-06-02 00:39:05 UTC

with the money i make, i could probably move to Mexico and find my own piece of land i could physically defend with a little money and some agreements with local cartels

2018-06-02 00:39:07 UTC

if you find a country that claims land that you can defend yourself from if you choose to live there and not pay taxes then enjoy

2018-06-02 00:39:30 UTC

understanding they will eventually go to war with you

2018-06-02 00:40:22 UTC

apparently we are all at war with everyone else anyway, so what else is new?

2018-06-02 00:41:03 UTC

and ofcourse the point to living is to have children, so hopefuly your plan lasts all generations

2018-06-02 00:41:41 UTC

but lets get back to just one of the several problems, since apparently no one is a capitalist, which proves my point that calling these big evil faceless people capitalist is false. its easy just to call them greedy and controlling, like a bad girlfriend.

2018-06-02 00:42:03 UTC

by your deffition no one is a capitalist

2018-06-02 00:42:46 UTC

well by your definition private property is not a thing that can happen.

2018-06-02 00:42:57 UTC

which means governments really are pointless, as that is there only use

2018-06-02 00:43:16 UTC

so lets get some more funding to that 8% shall me?

2018-06-02 00:43:32 UTC

its not my defition

2018-06-02 00:45:29 UTC

its an observation we both agree on that what private property within a society means is that society gives you the right to prevent people in that society from taking stuff defined as your private property as long as you give labor to the society till the day you die or so long as society can collect for everything defined as private property

2018-06-02 00:46:09 UTC

i simplfy that as rent

2018-06-02 00:46:26 UTC

you can call it private property still if you want to though

2018-06-02 00:46:58 UTC

private property only exists because of governments by the way

2018-06-02 00:47:23 UTC

governments where formed to protect private property.

2018-06-02 00:47:34 UTC

because people got tied of always building walls, and needing standing armies

2018-06-02 00:48:14 UTC

so they said "hey, lets just follow these rules so we can both benefit, rather than point sharp sticks at eachother all day"

2018-06-02 00:48:30 UTC

they also define private property as well

2018-06-02 00:49:03 UTC

yes, its all very circular because it was made by humans, for humans, and is kept running with the help of humans

2018-06-02 00:49:23 UTC

and humans are the source of all our problems

2018-06-02 00:49:49 UTC

and 99% of the time the source of our solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:12 UTC

no, 100% of the time the source of our solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:22 UTC

because we made the problem

2018-06-02 00:50:30 UTC

sometimes we come up with our own solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:39 UTC

sometimes wildlife becomes a problem for us

2018-06-02 00:50:44 UTC

mold sucks

2018-06-02 00:51:11 UTC

were being pedantic and austistic though now off topic

2018-06-02 00:51:11 UTC

mold only causes a problem if you decide to remain where mold is

2018-06-02 00:51:53 UTC

naw, its not austistic to lay out the reasoning for killing all humans

2018-06-02 00:51:59 UTC

it will solve all humanities problems

2018-06-02 00:52:05 UTC

its the perfect plan

2018-06-02 00:52:11 UTC

Thanos didn't go far enough

2018-06-02 00:52:47 UTC

but back on topic. we have a group of people, all of who apparently don't want to take power from each-other, according to the video we were talking about.

2018-06-02 00:54:08 UTC

because the easiest way, in his example, to undermined the power of anyone else in the "evil capitalist" group, would be to put funding into growing the 8% so they feel like you are on their side and not part of the rest of the evil capitalist.

2018-06-02 00:54:24 UTC

one group doesent care (which i think is actually to big)

2018-06-02 00:54:59 UTC

this in turn, would give reason for the other evil capitalists to stop funding the 8% and instead put funding into an opposition to their group.

2018-06-02 00:55:15 UTC

which would split the 8% into at least 2 factions

2018-06-02 00:55:25 UTC

(hey, and now we have republicans and democrats)

2018-06-02 00:56:42 UTC

the problem with the 8% is that its so indocternated in what the evil capitalist thinks it doesent actually know what its fighting against anymore, it doesent even really know what it stands for, it changes its own ideology and is fractionalized into so many different ideologys that have something in common but rarely actually focus on that and aim outword that it doesent know how to think for itself

2018-06-02 00:57:15 UTC

thats even worse for the capitalists. because its a weapon any other capitalist can use against them

2018-06-02 00:58:09 UTC

its being used against other capitalists, but its also very stupid and easly distracted and again capitalists know a more dangerous enemy than eachother

2018-06-02 00:58:35 UTC

at different times different capitalists have control over the 8%

2018-06-02 00:58:45 UTC

you see that in what they use to stand against

2018-06-02 00:58:52 UTC

and how it keeps changing over time

2018-06-02 00:59:27 UTC

i dont actually believe in a top of the pyramid

2018-06-02 00:59:50 UTC

i beleive its narrower up there but i think its not lonely

2018-06-02 01:00:06 UTC

i don't even thing the top is that stagnant

2018-06-02 01:00:32 UTC

i think its a violate thing that has people leaving and joining all the time, because this is just how humans work.

2018-06-02 01:03:07 UTC

i also dont think its defined souly with money but money is a strong factor

2018-06-02 01:03:13 UTC

influince is another

2018-06-02 01:03:28 UTC

and its not a bad thing. the people in the top are kept in check by their peers. because think about the people who are at the top. they are people who want to get all the power and keep it. which puts them at odds with each-other. And in the collateral of that fighting power is split up, and new people seize that power to climb up to the top

2018-06-02 01:04:23 UTC

money isint the only influince but its the strongest right now. but trust is another which is why some very rich people arnt trusted and some are and some arnt for good reasons because of who else does trust them

2018-06-02 01:05:43 UTC

so long as resources are finite, the top will always exist. money really means nothing. its resources and the ability to control those resources that get you to the top. doesn't matter how you do it.

2018-06-02 01:06:23 UTC

so its pointless trying to get rid of the top. and anyone who wants to get rid of it, is not actually trying to get rid of it. they are just looking for some way to join it.

2018-06-02 01:06:31 UTC

because you can't get rid of it

2018-06-02 01:06:38 UTC

not while resources are finite

2018-06-02 01:07:00 UTC

not while that 90% can't ignore the rest of humanity and still get what they want.

2018-06-02 01:08:02 UTC

and so long as the top is not static, which so long as there are people it won't be, then society is not under the control of any one group really. society is under the control of society.

2018-06-02 01:18:03 UTC

key isint getting rid of the top, the key is getting the top to act in the best interests of the people and allowing the 2% to grow. heirarchy of influince and power is still important to the function of a society however it needs to be a healthy relationship between top and bottom not onesided

2018-06-02 01:37:08 UTC

The biggest problem is defining what is the best interests of the people?

2018-06-02 01:49:00 UTC

i think that is important, i dont know if its the biggest problem. one issue of it though is humans will defult to a way of living in complacency that isint actually very good on a sociatal level

2018-06-02 01:49:48 UTC

i think most people tend to know right now one of the issues of society is due to how complacent everyone is and careless for the future of the next generation and those after. but no one really had an agreeible solution

2018-06-02 01:57:10 UTC

Everyone has their own Utopia. There is not "best for society" because what is subjectivity good for one person is bad for another

2018-06-02 02:03:20 UTC

there is good for society though, we have a wealth of history to draw from

2018-06-02 02:29:18 UTC

I'd disagree, Grenade.

2018-06-02 02:30:00 UTC

I think the concept of a Utopia is a way to justify authoritarian action.

2018-06-02 02:31:20 UTC

The problem with utopian goals are that they generally lead to homogeneity of one sort or another

2018-06-02 02:32:40 UTC

They invariably require a person to give up their autonomous rights for the greater good, in some way or another.

2018-06-02 02:35:32 UTC

I think it's particularly telling - and one of the quirks of the American system - that when power changes, the powers that the previous administration crafted for the sake of chasing their utopia are suddenly vilified when used by the new administration, whatever administration that be.

2018-06-02 02:36:03 UTC

Republicans didn't particularly care about the Patriot Act until Obama wielded that power.

2018-06-02 02:36:26 UTC

Democrats didn't mind the 'Nuclear Option' for congressional power until the Republicans used it.

2018-06-02 02:39:23 UTC

I'd argue that it's not utopian to push for a system where individual responsibility is the standard by which rules are made and people are judged - it's just the rules of nature that people keep trying to overcome with their utopian ideas.

2018-06-02 02:40:08 UTC

~~~@Grenade123 for good measure.~~~

2018-06-02 04:28:36 UTC

@RyeNorth everyone has their own version of what utopia would look like. Therefore utopia cannot exist. As such, you are right, anyone promising or working towards utopia is going to be authoritarian. Because they are working towards their utopia, which is not utopia for everyone else.

2018-06-02 04:44:29 UTC

The divergence in opinion is that i think Utopia isn't really just an ideal world that someone has. part of the problem with the idea of Utopia is that it persists in ideology as a promise on the other side of suffering. It's bait to get people to do something they would not do otherwise, a sociological exploit in humanity for the preservation of the species.

2018-06-02 04:49:08 UTC

It's what separates someone who wants people to just acknowledge the thresholds between their own sovereignty and that of their peers, and someone that wants to replace social structure with one where money no longer exists, or races are separated to solve sociological problems.

2018-06-02 04:49:22 UTC

They're different levels of victory.

2018-06-02 04:51:09 UTC

In order to build a culture of personal responsibility, you need only convince an individual. In order to rebuild society's values, you have to subjugate the individual.

2018-06-02 04:53:31 UTC

Granted that might be my view due to the fact that personal responsibility is still the closer cultural infrastructure to what exists...

2018-06-02 04:54:14 UTC

I just don't see that as a utopian worldview

2018-06-02 05:09:20 UTC

i wouldn't define the idea of utopia as being just a bait used in some ideology. Everyone or near everyone has their fantasy version of events, of stuff that they wish had played out. That is utopia. And certain ideologies promise that as bait. And that is where they become dangerous, because they are promising a new version of the world that will somehow simultaneously exist along side very other version of the world from every other person subscribing to that ideology. This is obviously a false promise as only one version can come out the other side and you don't know whos but its not yours. making the definition of utopia so narrow as to only be the bait of an ideology means we need to come up with a new name for everyone's own perfect world they have in their head.

2018-06-02 05:09:44 UTC

and i got tired of having to make new words for stuff when they rebranded racism and had to come up with colorism

2018-06-02 05:09:50 UTC

lmao

2018-06-02 05:12:22 UTC

I guess you're right on a strict definition sense.

2018-06-02 05:13:29 UTC

The danger comes in depending on how devoted you are to Utopia, not based on your vision of it.

2018-06-02 05:15:09 UTC

I guess that's what I was outlining. My Utopia would just be where people aren't absolute dicks, and I'm only devoted to it insofar as I believe people can with towards that personally.

2018-06-02 05:15:19 UTC

Utopia becomes a problem when you force me to be on it.

2018-06-02 05:15:33 UTC

Your Utopia ends at your property line.

2018-06-02 05:15:38 UTC

I don't want to genocide people with popped collars or anything.

2018-06-02 05:25:55 UTC

Is it bad my idea of Utopian society is the society depicted in Alfred Huxleyโ€™s โ€œBrave New Worldโ€

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