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What's wrong with a beard? And given that they can get their lives ruined by being near a woman, yet alone gave a relationship, who could blame them.
This is what feminist wanted
beards are fine
unless u spend 2 hours a day treating it with beauty products and u cut it perfectly in the barber once a week
and u wear superfashionable clothes
Stop judging people....
stop judging me for judging ppl
It's late, I'm getting emotional maybe I shouldnt have typed that, was stupid
possible you are just being kind of a dick also :P
I sense emotional instability
Lmao
Smells like iron in here
you can say that with semen and scat too
lol
is this loss
no, but this is
Aw
I didn't know they had free propaganda at google
He doesn't even disquise it, he goes full marxist to the point of describing his life ๐
man I miss left shark...
When I see that I just see that guy from the yogscast
thinks a highschool socialist
Whoever made that picture clearly doesn't understand inflation.
Thats... For teens
What the hell are they reading these days
I saw him live last night
@GingaBomber if you take a look over that article, its basically health tips you'd probably find in any health class.
so not actually a bad thing to put in a teen mag
just like his videos, nothing really political, just a very thought provoking opinion on life
yes. his sagely advice of clean your room
thats an oversimplification, but yeah
its a joke. He usually delivers that line in a way thats basically "its such a simple thing... WHY DONT YOU DO IT? be personal accountable."
the reason it is a joke is that he has a point. Its such a simple thing that parents should have instilled in you that modern culture seems to have deemed unnecessary.
yup
that's the joke
by the joke, I mean all of us
we are the joke
its one of those sad jokes
i can honestly say that listening to him has reformed my life in a personal way
being a default lazy dude
I can also tell you his happiness is genuine knowing that he's helping people
Yeah I agree on that, just that its kinda wierd finding that in a teen glamor mag
Like you dont have mens books on how to wash your balls or something
Actually I think they do
i really wish clickbait didnt work
maybe all news articles need to have click bait titles
then its like crying wolf
"You won't believe how many peopl died in Puerto Rico during the hurricane, click to find out!"
"Fuck, are we this dumb?"
yes. yes we are.
oh boy
I gotta watch that movie again
watched it many times as a kid in VHS
@ZetaBlues stop posting BILD Articles, the channel is called shitposting - and comparing BILD to shit is an insult to excrements. ๐
Wew lad. You sure got me. lmao
But seriously... they are the reason i stopped trusting the media when i was like 6 years old ๐
Fake! There is no chainsaw on it!
lol
Yes @ZetaBlues
A classic
that's wyoming, not colorado
for that CQC church environment
yeah thats the joke, What. That map was put out by usa today as well.
okay
Cosmo, Covering the important stories of our time.
Who can't relate to that.
Bitch so cold its a crisper.
I canโt say Iโve ever hated a woman I was romantically involved with so much that Iโd trick her into giving herself a yeast infection.
so he could eat the fruit or her vag?
I assume heโs eating the fruit
If he was just gunna go down on her and wanted it to be fruit flavored he can buy flavored lubricant for under $10
Iโm curious to see where he got the 90-8-2 %s
yeah personally i dont agree with the percentages but i do sort of agree with the system, though i also dont think the system accounts for anything after highschool graduation
also certainly doesent apply to the whole world
i made a comment on the video about that
the evil capitalist...who doesn't believe in private property apparently.
what you just said, does not fit anywhere into that entire video and i cant even imagine where it would fit into that video
thats literally the name of the big round guy?
yes but nothing in that video is about private property
capitalist requires private property. the state usually doesn't like private property.
and at the level of control they are talking about, neither would any of these people. as private property is something they cannot control
you can control private property by being the one owning it
which means you need to own it
and if the owners will not give it over?
besides the video is about education which is a public system whos only influince by the private sector is through influince in politics
so what does he do with the 8% that is now in 100% or near 100% control of his own influence machine? Who want to eradicate the private sector, which is by his own design. since he just got 90% of the population to check out, they don't want anything to do with anything.
2 percent are being attacked by the 8%
he is up at the top of the power pyramid, what is he now forced to do with the middle of the pyramid, which was filled with his fellow capitalist that were under his control, but since they are getting older, and get voted out by the 8% who are interested in getting his power from him to destroy him.
now the middle of the pyramid is filled with people who dislike him, and now have more direct control over at least 1 of this 2 influence tools.
education
voted out? these arnt people who are voted for, these are the people in control of who you can vote for
well more so they influince you think about voting for because they fund the optics for the people they want you to vote for with far more money than what grass roots can accomplish
really? like 6 people control all professors, all presidents of colleges, all teachers, all politicians, all people in the music industry, all people in the entertainment industry, AND they all get along?
more than 6, but money does control those people yeah
money controls the world we live in, and those with the most control over money have the most control over the world we live in
money is not real.
money controls only what you believe it controls
at the end of the day money is only a place holder for labor
something one person can give to another for the labor they have done, so they can go say "hey, i did x labor for this person, so that i can ask you to do y labor form, in exchange for something you can give to someone else for z labor"
but his theory still assumes all the people with most money all like each other.
thats a meaningless statement because weather or not money is real, if it represents something and what it represents is real and it represents a 1:1 ratio of that thing which it represents. THEN WHEN IM TALKING ABOUT MONEY im talking about that thing which it represents which is real
they cannot control your labor
you can let them use your labor
that is the only way things work
unless you are not capitalist, in which case you do not believe people control their own labor
and we are back to my previous point that they are not really capitalist, just greedy
they can control how much your labor is worth to them, and influince how much it is worth to others, to an extent that if they deem you worthless you will not be permited to coexist with society because 99% of our relationships with greater society are through money
they do not control how much your labor is worth. you control that.
nope
no one is forcing you to work for anyone
you get a job dont you? you dont MAKE a job
i don't HAVE to go to a job.
i choose to
because its easier
not because i have to
if you choose to your worth is dictated by other people
more over, i can MAKE my own job
if you believe in private property, anyone can make their own job
the only option you have if not to let your worth be decided by others and your only means of enforcing that is by not working
what is stopping me, from making my own company, and what is stopping other people from picking how much my work is worth?
nothing is stopping you from making your own company and nothing is stoping your worth to society being dictated by society
little is stoping the worth your work is valued at by society being influinced by those whove horded the most value in society
i can always reject societies offer
i can get my own water, grow and harvest my own food, build my own shelter.... until you stop believing in private property
can you own your own land?
because if i remimber correctly you still pay property tax
if you don't believe you can own your own land, then you are not capitalist, and we are back to my original point
no ones a capitalist
but yes, you can own your own land.
but you need to use force to make it yours
and only those willing to use force against you can take land from you that you occupy
ultimately, your property is what you can physically defend
well we currently live in a world where society as a concept owns all land and rents it out to everyone who has enough money and the rights to own it deemed by society
most people are renting from society
lots of people are renting from other people who are renting from society
people avoid paying taxes all the time. and generally speaking they try much harder to get the money rather than take your land. And its not that you are necessarily renting. You are asked to pay for the stuff society has agreed everyone, yourself included, are entitled to use. If you do not want to agree to that, then you can go somewhere where you are not forced to use that public property to access and live.
although you can also live off the grid. then you don't pay any taxes and for the most part people don't bother you
there arnt many places in the world where society of some kind doesent claim an ownership and expect you to endebt yourself for life in order to call it your own against others who live in that society. people do avoid paying taxes and they do try much harder to get money rather than take your land but if they have people they think will use your land better than you do who dont currently have it you will be seen as replacible
even alaska isint free
well at the end of the day its still whatever you can physically defend. You can say i owe you all the money in the world. what you gonna do if i don't pay?
with the money i make, i could probably move to Mexico and find my own piece of land i could physically defend with a little money and some agreements with local cartels
if you find a country that claims land that you can defend yourself from if you choose to live there and not pay taxes then enjoy
understanding they will eventually go to war with you
apparently we are all at war with everyone else anyway, so what else is new?
and ofcourse the point to living is to have children, so hopefuly your plan lasts all generations
but lets get back to just one of the several problems, since apparently no one is a capitalist, which proves my point that calling these big evil faceless people capitalist is false. its easy just to call them greedy and controlling, like a bad girlfriend.
by your deffition no one is a capitalist
well by your definition private property is not a thing that can happen.
which means governments really are pointless, as that is there only use
so lets get some more funding to that 8% shall me?
its not my defition
its an observation we both agree on that what private property within a society means is that society gives you the right to prevent people in that society from taking stuff defined as your private property as long as you give labor to the society till the day you die or so long as society can collect for everything defined as private property
i simplfy that as rent
you can call it private property still if you want to though
private property only exists because of governments by the way
governments where formed to protect private property.
because people got tied of always building walls, and needing standing armies
so they said "hey, lets just follow these rules so we can both benefit, rather than point sharp sticks at eachother all day"
they also define private property as well
yes, its all very circular because it was made by humans, for humans, and is kept running with the help of humans
and humans are the source of all our problems
and 99% of the time the source of our solutions
no, 100% of the time the source of our solutions
because we made the problem
sometimes we come up with our own solutions
sometimes wildlife becomes a problem for us
mold sucks
were being pedantic and austistic though now off topic
mold only causes a problem if you decide to remain where mold is
naw, its not austistic to lay out the reasoning for killing all humans
it will solve all humanities problems
its the perfect plan
Thanos didn't go far enough
but back on topic. we have a group of people, all of who apparently don't want to take power from each-other, according to the video we were talking about.
because the easiest way, in his example, to undermined the power of anyone else in the "evil capitalist" group, would be to put funding into growing the 8% so they feel like you are on their side and not part of the rest of the evil capitalist.
one group doesent care (which i think is actually to big)
this in turn, would give reason for the other evil capitalists to stop funding the 8% and instead put funding into an opposition to their group.
which would split the 8% into at least 2 factions
(hey, and now we have republicans and democrats)
the problem with the 8% is that its so indocternated in what the evil capitalist thinks it doesent actually know what its fighting against anymore, it doesent even really know what it stands for, it changes its own ideology and is fractionalized into so many different ideologys that have something in common but rarely actually focus on that and aim outword that it doesent know how to think for itself
thats even worse for the capitalists. because its a weapon any other capitalist can use against them
its being used against other capitalists, but its also very stupid and easly distracted and again capitalists know a more dangerous enemy than eachother
at different times different capitalists have control over the 8%
you see that in what they use to stand against
and how it keeps changing over time
i dont actually believe in a top of the pyramid
i beleive its narrower up there but i think its not lonely
i don't even thing the top is that stagnant
i think its a violate thing that has people leaving and joining all the time, because this is just how humans work.
i also dont think its defined souly with money but money is a strong factor
influince is another
and its not a bad thing. the people in the top are kept in check by their peers. because think about the people who are at the top. they are people who want to get all the power and keep it. which puts them at odds with each-other. And in the collateral of that fighting power is split up, and new people seize that power to climb up to the top
money isint the only influince but its the strongest right now. but trust is another which is why some very rich people arnt trusted and some are and some arnt for good reasons because of who else does trust them
so long as resources are finite, the top will always exist. money really means nothing. its resources and the ability to control those resources that get you to the top. doesn't matter how you do it.
so its pointless trying to get rid of the top. and anyone who wants to get rid of it, is not actually trying to get rid of it. they are just looking for some way to join it.
because you can't get rid of it
not while resources are finite
not while that 90% can't ignore the rest of humanity and still get what they want.
and so long as the top is not static, which so long as there are people it won't be, then society is not under the control of any one group really. society is under the control of society.
key isint getting rid of the top, the key is getting the top to act in the best interests of the people and allowing the 2% to grow. heirarchy of influince and power is still important to the function of a society however it needs to be a healthy relationship between top and bottom not onesided
The biggest problem is defining what is the best interests of the people?
i think that is important, i dont know if its the biggest problem. one issue of it though is humans will defult to a way of living in complacency that isint actually very good on a sociatal level
i think most people tend to know right now one of the issues of society is due to how complacent everyone is and careless for the future of the next generation and those after. but no one really had an agreeible solution
Everyone has their own Utopia. There is not "best for society" because what is subjectivity good for one person is bad for another
there is good for society though, we have a wealth of history to draw from
I'd disagree, Grenade.
I think the concept of a Utopia is a way to justify authoritarian action.
The problem with utopian goals are that they generally lead to homogeneity of one sort or another
They invariably require a person to give up their autonomous rights for the greater good, in some way or another.
I think it's particularly telling - and one of the quirks of the American system - that when power changes, the powers that the previous administration crafted for the sake of chasing their utopia are suddenly vilified when used by the new administration, whatever administration that be.
Republicans didn't particularly care about the Patriot Act until Obama wielded that power.
Democrats didn't mind the 'Nuclear Option' for congressional power until the Republicans used it.
I'd argue that it's not utopian to push for a system where individual responsibility is the standard by which rules are made and people are judged - it's just the rules of nature that people keep trying to overcome with their utopian ideas.
~~~@Grenade123 for good measure.~~~
@RyeNorth everyone has their own version of what utopia would look like. Therefore utopia cannot exist. As such, you are right, anyone promising or working towards utopia is going to be authoritarian. Because they are working towards their utopia, which is not utopia for everyone else.
The divergence in opinion is that i think Utopia isn't really just an ideal world that someone has. part of the problem with the idea of Utopia is that it persists in ideology as a promise on the other side of suffering. It's bait to get people to do something they would not do otherwise, a sociological exploit in humanity for the preservation of the species.
It's what separates someone who wants people to just acknowledge the thresholds between their own sovereignty and that of their peers, and someone that wants to replace social structure with one where money no longer exists, or races are separated to solve sociological problems.
They're different levels of victory.
In order to build a culture of personal responsibility, you need only convince an individual. In order to rebuild society's values, you have to subjugate the individual.
Granted that might be my view due to the fact that personal responsibility is still the closer cultural infrastructure to what exists...
I just don't see that as a utopian worldview
i wouldn't define the idea of utopia as being just a bait used in some ideology. Everyone or near everyone has their fantasy version of events, of stuff that they wish had played out. That is utopia. And certain ideologies promise that as bait. And that is where they become dangerous, because they are promising a new version of the world that will somehow simultaneously exist along side very other version of the world from every other person subscribing to that ideology. This is obviously a false promise as only one version can come out the other side and you don't know whos but its not yours. making the definition of utopia so narrow as to only be the bait of an ideology means we need to come up with a new name for everyone's own perfect world they have in their head.
and i got tired of having to make new words for stuff when they rebranded racism and had to come up with colorism
lmao
I guess you're right on a strict definition sense.
The danger comes in depending on how devoted you are to Utopia, not based on your vision of it.
I guess that's what I was outlining. My Utopia would just be where people aren't absolute dicks, and I'm only devoted to it insofar as I believe people can with towards that personally.
Utopia becomes a problem when you force me to be on it.
Your Utopia ends at your property line.
I don't want to genocide people with popped collars or anything.
Is it bad my idea of Utopian society is the society depicted in Alfred Huxleyโs โBrave New Worldโ
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