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It wasn't slavery, per se
resent* rezent, im not sure how its spelled
But an impoverished community having their standards lowered from that of their fellow man
combined with a culture being funded that promoted a helpless attitude about the whole thing
These things, of course, coming from a time where racism WAS far more prevalent and acceptable
There were mistakes made, and there were intentional steps taken
and it's hard to tell which ones were which
But if you spot the most successful, sound minded black people, they've got a built in sense of personal responsibility and self-actualization
one that in the standard culture is ridiculed.
handling african american rehabilitation into the untited states after slavory needed to be with a lot of care. its actually a testamont to the endurence of human spirit in my opinion that they have managed to come this far because they were at a disadvantage like no other group of people has ever been in human history
Hence my point: The money that did change hands to the black community
Did not happen from the black community itself
It had to come from somewhere.
not even in a racial manor, though i think that was part of it. but from slaves to having to compete on the same terms with slave owners and natives who had centurys of built up wealth
You have to look at what was funded.
Civil Rights groups like the NAACP, whose entire existance DEPENDS on black oppression
anyway its a bigger thing than black people in the usa
because that video this conversation comes out of is scotland
which is why im speaking in terms of immigrants and not black people specificly
I hate to score an own-goal here concerning other arguments
or people without an ethnic or relatibly ethnic background in the culture they live in
but you have to consider, for a split second
that the problematic guy in the video
isn't native,
"Alloysious Massaquoi was born in Liberia and moved at the age of four to Edinburgh, where he attended Boroughmuir High School."
so it would be even harder for him to emulate with the native culture
Right.
i mean not to an extreme deal because hey the difference between born and 4 in terms of relating to a culture isint that much, but i can ignore it
cant*
It would also have a lot to do with the means, reasons, and parental situation in migration.
basicly ive been trying to argue an ethnonationalist point this entire time which is to say that if you dont have an ethnic relation to the culture you live in then its harder for you to suport that culture. i supose the next line of thought would be "why live in a culture you dont have ehtnic relation too"
Put simply, culture can be chosen.
If you don't want to live in a culture you have no relationship to, that's a choice.
it can, but its easier to choose when theres people tto look up to in it that you can relate to. and its scentificly proven we relate to people who look more like us better than those who dont, regardless of our race
on average
Most definitely.
I can get that.
But then we get into the realm of authoritarianism.
Just because something is the average
does that mean that you make your laws based on that average?
Do you make your laws rigid, and in opposition to the outliers?
At what point is the cutoff of majority?
51%? 75%? are the bottom 25% the problem? the bottom 10%?
If you remove those, the average shifts.
That's the essence of a purity spiral.
The point of culture is that it can be adopted.
if your not serving the average your not serving the most. but that actually isint the point of this. it can be argued you serve both the majority and minority by segragating them if the minority has less of a chance of being happy sharing the space of the majority regardless of what you do as a governemnt or a society and the happyness of the minority effects your majority
But as for the members of an ethnic group that don't share the same history, but do share the same values
Do you weigh their ethnicity as more important as their values?
Do you judge them by the group, or by the individual?
you can only make rules for groups but you must account for individuals
That's a relatively fair answer.
See, the true way out of this is actually about as hard as ethno-nationalism, but far more fair.
Hold everyone to the same standard
and leave the exit door open.
i think most people will adopt the native culture under normal cercomstances, however this is not the case in extreme cercomstances which you as a social engineer cannot always predict and can not always prevent.
mass immigation is an example of an extreme cercomstance
I mean, Our pal Aryan over there says we should just *force* everyone not white to leave.
another example is whatever the fuck is going on with black people in america
I don't think it's NECESSARY to do so.
i would disagree with his move
except maybe in europe for anyone whos part of the mass immigation there
because those huge population spikes will become cultural problems over time
just ending immigration there wont solve those, but id also be willing not to solve those for a compramise of shutting down immigration
see personally im just anti-immigration in general with no personal reguards for identity politics
As for the US, let's say you were to drop the safety net, to a degree.
Actually allow for a true failure state for individuals.
Regardless of race
failure state?
As in, no comfort in welfare.
interesting the first thing that came to my mind with failure state was ironicly creating a state for people who dont want to be american but also dont wanna live anywhere else ๐
I mean, that's also a possibility.
A far more realistic one.
If we could bring Federalism back to full force
Instead of waging these battles in the federal government
you mean actually have state rights again?
states could actually experiment with socialism if they so choose.
i was actually thinking about that earlier today. i have a theory that the evolution of information media has lead to the greater unionization of people in the united states and abroad because the speed of information has increased and now you know what your neighbers are doing and people have grown a tendency to push their ideology any way they can so use federal powers to supress ideologys elsewhere in the country even through the state laws there dont actually effect them. and this has lead to the homogenization of the united states but also a polerization of politics
Isnโt this California?
california isint socialist they are decadent
Things I'm trying to subvert with a state-based media company for 200, trebek.
Yea but they basically just ignore the federal government and do whatever they want
It's funny how right I think that is, Arch.
only good thing about them, unfortunately what they do and want is diplorible and selfish
they have like a huge fraction of our countrys economy
thats why they can do that
but they arnt socialist, they love capitalism under the facade
corporatism and capitalism are two different things.
Capitalism empowers the citizen.
if they went socialist they would give more power to the working class and that just wouldent suit them
I do have to agree though, itโs pretty amazing listening to Americans tell people of other nations how they should live, and listening to people from Europe, Australia, & Asia telling me how I should want to live
Itโs quite amusing
In capitalism in it's truest form, the value you bring to society is directly converted into currency, which is the power to influence said society.
capitalist corporatism is an extention of capitalism though that simply is one of the means of businesses being privilaged above citiziens
it undermines the democracy but it is still capitalistic
Its not different from socialism taken to its extreme. Under extreme corporatism, the control lies with the corporations, under socialism, the government.
Any book recommendations.
not looking for shitpost ( i sort of wish there was a general chat).
Expecting people in 2018 to read
chances are i would use an audiobook
Its a joke, not a dick, dont take it so hard.
Depends on what you're looking for.
the above statement contradicts the below statement the explaination for the below statement can be found when you compare the populations in whole numbers. technically there were more african americans were slave owners than white european americans that were slave owners too. technicly there were more americans with native american heritage who were slave owners than there were of the americans without any native americian heritage. however. purely european heritage americans were of all slave owners the majority compared to other ethnicitys who owned slaves at the time. meaning of slave owners the majority were ethnic european americans
@Deleted User that is a false statement
Lads if you read the source sighted you will see that it is true. I know it's hard to believe but jews dominated slavery in America.
@Deleted User so to support your arguement you bring up something unrelated and your being very ignorenent if you dont realize how "78% of slave owners were ethnic jews" and "40% of the jewish population are slave owners" would mean that 40% of the jewish population accounted for 78% of the slave owning population. if we take the census of 1860 from here http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html with the 393,975 slave holders, and compare it too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States#Current_situation the jewish population of the united states during 1860 of 150000, it would mean that only 40% of 150000 owned slaves but somehow 78% of 393,975. these numbers contradict eachother. infact only if every jewish person in america owned slaves they wouldent event account for 50% of the slave owning population, they would only account for 38%
maths is hard sometimes
he did say he is dyslexic, but im going to blame lazyness
@Arch-Fiend Bruh... who do you think was running the census.....?
It's noses all the way down. o_o
Holy shit. Mister Metokur is running a stream with all the IBS leaders, hashing out beef. It's an absolute dumpster fire.
Lots of teeth for a 6 month old.
"You can lose weight in lots of ways that aren't very good for you. Smoking cigarettes ... chemotherapy ... getting profoundly depressed ... I don't recommend those approaches."
ah, a professer (actually doesent say anything) debunks. i guess it doesent take much to debunk anymore.
i find it ironic that its a video of people requesting studys, a man saying he cant provide studys, and then the video doesent site any studys except appealing to authority
a diet purely of meat will reduce your lifespan, just as a diet purely of vegitables
difference genetic groups of humans also have different neutritional needs and adaptations to withdraw neutrition from different sources such as the european digestive track which hosts lactic bacteria that can break down milk products after the european matures, or the east asian long gut which is 50% longer than that of other ethnic groups that enables them to digest rice more thuroughly and extract more calorys
happy merchent with a boller hat, pipe, checkered jacket, and tea
Ornish is a doctor, not that doctors are typically educated in the field of nutrition. I'm unable to post here the very brief abstract from the study cited in the video, but if you look up "New England Journal of Medicine Steven Smith," there should be a link. Apparently, you have to subscribe to obtain access to the entire study.
he is a doctor, so is the person hes debunking. i dont really care about authority what i care about is peer reveiwed observations. the video doesent cite a study, it simply shows clips of a debate without the debaters really making any points that provide useful information to the audience because the maker of the video thinks whats important is just showing them complaining about there not being a study without actually showing any relivent information to back up any claim other than "this guy is our guy, this guy thinks the same way we do, this guy says the guy we dont agree with is wrong, dont do atkins kids"
i agree with them the pure protine no carb dont even eat your vegitables diet is retarded because i actually know what goes on in that diet, and i know why arterial clogging becomes a problem with that diet but the video doesent actually show any evidence for its claim doesent site anything, just says "we know whats right for you because we have clips of this guy"
thats snake oil selling 101
At the end of the day, outside hiring a nutritionist, the only "effective" diet is trying changing something up in your daily routine, try it for a month or so, see if you progress in the direction you wanted. Visit the doctor and make sure that change isn't a result of something dangerous like malnutrition. All "official" diets are just fad diets thats may work, for a certain period, or a certain group of people.
the only nonfad diets i think are out there, which i dont even think are diets really, is just the fact the importants of omega 3 is being highlighted now along with "no diet is healthy without exercize" and the sun is how white people get vitamine d so go out side just dont get sunburned
He did mention the study, but yeah, I wish whoever made the video had included a link.
if he did he didint talk about it much
Idk why but "the sun is how white people get vitamin d" is amusing me for some reason.
And those are not diets really. Just general health advice for things to try and change up for making your own diet for you.
well diet actually discribes a way of living not just eating
its only a new defintion that it was reduced down to how you plan your meals
"realitively" new
you guys excited for when @Aktriaz will actually post what they are writing? its totally not going to be gay interracial porn
was gonna comment on this discussion, but felt that it was too anecdotal
too much secondhand knowledge
atkins honestly seems like an ok meal plan, it really just suffers from cholesteral problems. honestly you could probably mix oats into it and that would solve it
protine sources are full of low density lipoprotines which without the high density form of lipoprotines will tend to just stay in your bloodstream and stick to things. overtimes this causes platlet clots
This kind of lines up with what Dr. McDougall says at the end.
i disagree with the ascertion that the concumption of white rice has increased in asia relitive to its historical concumption. the economy was literally based on that grain just as ours was based on wheat. but them eating a lot more fat im sure doesent help. if were all eating more meat than we should then we should cut back. same for sugar
Well, some more bullshit is brewing in Texas...
@Deleted User you are legit retarded
rude
its from further up but can confirm that chemotherapy combined with liver surgery was a pretty damn effective weightloss for me from 105kg to 70kg in 3 months
that was pretty shitty ๐
You went from 399 to free trash waifu BOI
@Deleted User I'm genuinely baffled by your supposed hatred of communism.
I would like to know why you hate communism but remain a staunch supporter of national socialism. What exactly do you hate about communism that isn't present in national socialism?
my guess, because the national socialists were against jews, and he really hates jews
I really hate being near spiders, doesn't mean I like flies.
His question is more like, why do you love spiders and manage to hate flies that much?
@Aktriaz Marx was a jew. 'nuff said. Also, communists were causing problems in Germany around the time Hitler started to come to power if i do recall.
I'm not satisfied with that answer.
If the fact that something was made by a jew is enough reason to hate it, then I have no idea how Aussie gets by in a world surrounded by inventions made by jews. Socialism itself was coined by Marx, which would make Aussie a massive hypocrite if you are correct.
Also, weren't those communists aligned/sympathetic with soviet russia? In which case I would think that it wasn't a hatred of communism specifically, but rather a fear of russia. Most germans around that period genuinely wanted socialism, which is the platform Hitler rose to power on.
the entire guys worldview is a meme Aktr, the jews trying to destroy the west by turning it into islam, thereby destroying their biggest allies, thus making the only nations who support Israel become the only religion that wants to see every israeli dead.
the jews master plan,
A long-game suicide
lol
still interested in Aussie's answer
you know, i've actually tried to get a similar answer too out of him, a couple of times even, but its just ignored, and winds up buried under more discussions
I have a theory as to why he "hates communism". no answer would just be more evidence to support it. either way, I'm genuinely interested in an answer if he has one.
a russian bot you say? ๐ค
no, I'm certain he genuinely believes in what he says
well lets hope for a good anwer ๐ cuz im curious too
Good luck to you. His primary interest seems to be genetic control. He doesn't seem to have any real interest past that.
Weeding out the undesirables seems like a path equal to Marxism to me. They're playing the same game, their undesirables just have a different name.
there is a reason they use socialist in the name.
@RyeNorth don't you know, they just do it to play the game. Exercise their power.
Mmhmm
The world isn't black and white. You can't apply group interests that way and define all groups in a clear way
https://youtu.be/W9yZl3DzuSc
"Newspapers haven't been this yellow since they started the Spanish-american war"
now THAT, is a zinger
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@Aktriaz Communism is an ideology which was created by there jews Moses Hess, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels which was desinged to have jews rule over the goyim (non-jews). If you don't believe me I suggest you read Rome to Jerusalem by Moses Hess. Most communist goverments were created by mostly jews or with the help of jews. Communism also has lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people in the past century making it the bloodiest ideology in history and that doesn't include the Holodomor (a jewish designed genocide of Ukrainians lead by Genrikh Yagoda which lead to the deaths of millions). If you really want to compare National Socialism to communism go right ahead but you look retared because National Socialism is the empowerment of a nation and it's people which is the opposite of communism which seeks to distory nations and peoples.
You've dodged the question.
How?
I have a lot of questions, I don't know even from where to start on that
Right?
Our ideas don't come from jews, therefore they're better.
That's one of the reasons.
I was being sarcastic
Why would you care if communism started from jews even?
Because that's a ridiculous concept.
There's nothing in communism that requires the presence of jews.
You can have communism without jews. There is no hard rule that requires it.
So I ask again; what is present in communism that you hate that is not present in national socialism?
I'm not talking about how they were in reality. I'm talking about the systems on paper.
I also don't understand how the jews would even retain power under communism
The inherent problem with any form of socialism is that it lends itself to dictatorship quite easily.
I know communism doesn't need jews but it there are no jews in the goverment the communist goverment becomes nationalistic like the communist countries in Africa and China did.
I can't talk voice chat man
but I can listen
Are you two at it again?
So you don't hate communism, per say.
People who advocate for socialism think they're advocating for their chosen groups interests. That goes for you, and those who advocate Marxism.
Ryecast: Surrender yourself to fascism, the only way to save the hwite rayce
So.. you don't hate nacionalistic communism then?
you just hate the jews
Dictatorship is needed for a country to survive in times of extreme danger surely you can agree with that.
No.
nope lol
I can't.
So you would rather have you country die?
You're establishing a meritless defacto hierarchy. How does that help anyone but the dictator?
I would value dictatorship if it was completely based on a free market and the head you be picked under meritocracy ๐ค
> dictatorship
you see, it's different being oppressed by le 99.9%
> picked
lol
totally different
can we get some mpreg
huwite peopลe dindu nuffin
Belial was making a point.
"Picked" was just a way of saying it. Compete for it in a transparent way
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