no

racist idiots do

Yep

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240157528988712961/417299025323360257/FB_IMG_1519423819914.jpg

and there is no institutional racism that disadvantages black people... if anything its the opposite

then again, i consider affirmative action as inherently racist/sexist

I mean, as I said above, affirmative action is the textbook definition of a racist law

it also hurts people that are supposed to profit from it

It is a law that effects you solely based on your race, ethnicity, sex, & religion. It’s textbook discrimination

it is

People forget that discrimination can be both positive and negative

there is no positive discrimination

it always has negative effects on someone else

It can 100% effect people positively

That doesn’t make it right

if you have 100 spots to fill and "positively discriminate" against someone that only means that someone else who is more deserving gets left out

But that’s assuming a zero sum scenario.

is there ever a scenario that is not zero sum where affirmative action is applied?

If an employer decides it’s February so I’m going to give a $100 bonus out of pocket to all my black employees for black history month or some shit that’s a positive discriminatory act. No nonblack employees are hurt by you doing this

That doesn’t make it not discriminatory though

thats extremely discriminatory

Any form of positive discrimination inherently contains negative discrimination.

And vice versa.

also... even the people "profiting" from affirmative action are actually hurt by it... by the existence because it discourages them from being "their best" and everyone who gets hired has to work against the stigma of possibly being a "diversity hire"

any form of discrimination is discrimination, it literally means to make a difference

deller, that example is not affirmative action 😉

No, but it’s positive discrimination

There is no positive affirmative action

but i could construe the negative effect of it if you want me to 😄

Affirmative action just sucks

yip

on every level

And should have disappeared 30+ years ago

pushing people into positions they are not qualified for never helps anyone

and if they are qualified they do not need affirmative action to begin with

It was necessary in to help out the generations devastated by Jim Crow, but Jim Crow laws haven’t existed in over 50 years

it was the wrong way to go even then.

There’s literally no justification for keeping this shit

don't hire unqualified people, turn them into qualified people and then hire them based on their qualifications

might be more expensive in the short run but will end up with a working system in the forseeable future... affirmative action ensures that you will have unqualified people forever

I agree, affirmative action was always a shit solution. I like to compare it to a gun shot. Black America was shot repeatedly by the Government. The government then realized they were in the wrong and decided know what, we’re sorry, let me help you. Then they went to the bleeding black guy and handed him a Band-aid called affirmative action. The band-aid doesn’t actually make the bullet wound go away, & barely stops the bleeding. All it does is cover up the wound so nobody has to look at it anymore.

The black guy is still on the ground bleeding out, and the government gets to pretend like it actually helped

Meanwhile all it did was make everything worse like usual

but hey... feminism is working on making affirmative action redundant... so there is one good thing coming out if it 😄

Plz no

if you can self identify as a black woman you get all the affirmative action you want 😄

replacing the unqualified black workers with unqualified female workers as a forced quota wont help the business or hard working people

and saying that you are not a black woman makes them a racist, transphobic bigot 😄

funny thing is that if women just accepted a 23% pay cut they'd actually achieve their hiring amount 😛

they could also just work higher paid jobs to fill that 23% black hole

and "they" does not include every single woman.

no it wouldnt

if they only work 77% of the time they'll get paid 77% of the 100% wage at any salary

they work more than 77% of the time.

but the adjusted pay gap is somewhere between 4% and 6% and still does not include every variable.

because you can't include every variable

there is no variable

you accept the wage to work in said job

if you're not happy with it, you don't take the job

i worked a job where we got 2% of every sale. that is a variable that can not appropriately be included in a statistic like that.

that is the accepted wage then

the accepted wage was the base salary 😉

and the additional 2%

sure.

but how do you reflect that in stats like that?

you really can't - which gets reflected in that 4% - 6%

which is just there and will not go away

you don't have to

its not my reponsibility to ensure what you get paid is fair

you have to if you want to have accurate statistics

(i'm talking about that pay gap stat...)

you don't have to

If i agree to work for someone for free, i can't start complaining that others earn an infinity amount more

that would be your individual choice which has barely any impact on high-number stats 😄

it applies to everyone

sure

no one is forcing a woman to work for less than a man

if she doesn't like it she doesn't need to accept the job with said associated pay

and if you combine everyones choices to get to 4% - 6% difference in pay if you seperate by gender

i personally prefer to seperate by shoe size

so? thats a flaw on their end, why should i have to accomodate that?

but that's just me

i do think we agree that the statistic is bullshit 😉

it is, i reject the need for any such statistics at all

i reject the accuracy 😄

cuz its the same as say, a different job wage gap

a burger flipper has a wage gap of like 99% compared to a Wall street mogul

there is a need for every single statistic you can think of... and if there isn't i find one 😄

so what you are saying is that women eat too many burgers?

😄

yes
thats why feminism is filled with ugly fatties now

Now?

yes right now 😛

only 2 ways to control men, be hot or "REEE OPPRESSOR"

in other words, fear or respect

fear the lawsuits, or respect dem bewbz

Real talk: I am not a clever man.

I think I'm just gonna stay out of political discussions.

It is over my head.

thats the perfect mindset to partake really

cuz it means you accept you're not a supreme authority on matters

hence you can have an honest conversation

Like I said, I've noticed a tendancy to sound like an altrighter when I'm not, and I have to keep prefacing that I just agree with some of their premises just not a lot of their solutions.

I think I just spend too much time thinking about what I am not for, rather than what I am for.

Negatively-minded.

anyone right of Marxist is hitler at this point, who cares what people label you as

Well, it can be confusing when you're being labeled something and you don't know what you are. lol

So you kind of start to wonder if you are the label.

but what is the value of a label?

if you're an outspoken feminist that has inapproriately touched a woman, that label isn't of use

Yeah.

besides the labels are just buzz-words to pretty much "demonise" you so that your argument is invalid due to satan saying it

why just yesterday in this very channel, i was pinned as
Pushing Mix-breed babies for asking "what if you're white and love an asian woman and have kids with her?"

I was called someone who is pro-multiracialism because i said that i welcome black people who work hard and believe in freedom

And a globalist for saying its a stupid idea to think that splitting up society based on race isn't going to work

Oh yeah, I've been called both a racist and an SJW

I wrote that off as "I must be doing something right then."

well to be fair, being an SJW makes you racist 😛

kek

cuz SJW's consider whites to be the superior race

that have to take care of the helpless people of color

and if not properly "contained" will rule the world

I know the horseshoe theory is a meme at this point, but that doesn't mean it that it doesn't brings up some interesting points. lol

well its not even horseshoe theory

SJW's are literally white supremacists

they believe White people rule the world
White people are so good that black people need help in order to survive
they believe that black people can't study so need reduced bars set for tests

Yeah lol.

they believe black people can't be put in important places because they're too oppressed to be a useful asset

the only difference is that a real racist thinks we should therefore just get rid of the colored people

and SJW believe that we should feel guilty and ashamed and do whatever we possibly can to help these people

so SJW's are just white supremacists with a guilt complex

which then just makes the point i made earlier
whats the use of a label?

a SJW is just a racist

Its your principles and actions that define you

not your given tags

Yeah, they're both working off of the same premise that white people are superior.

exactly

Which is kind of funny since they both seem to ignore asians.

Well, the left ignores them, whereas at least from what I've seen most righters respect them.

well for the left they're just a switchable tool

If its useful for them, Asians are oppressed and need help

If the Asians outperform them or aren't in agreement, they're essentially just white people with smaller eyes

Yeah. I'd rather be around people with same principles, even if they're different races, than people of my own race that are... well, marxists. lol

exactly

and the large majority in the world believe the same

which is why i consider Alt-Right solutions to be stupid, they'll never work because the majority in the world would rather segregate by principles, not by race

the only reason the Alt-Right is even a thing right now is because the Media and Antifa are willing them to existance, and having people side with Alt-right simply out of fear or resistant-response to the aggressive left

And people who don't know better.

"Am I altright? Well, they keep saying I am, so I guess I am."

And those people do exist.

well... it's the hypocracy of using identity politics to sell shit while condemning people for using identity politics. antifa is just accelerating things that would also happen otherwise.

well those people who don't know better will themselves find out what Alt-right stands for, and will jump ship once they see "no, these people are nothing like me"

Lately they have been refining their message to make it more palatable, though.

and the term alt-right is useless because everyone gets called alt-right

once you call ben shapiro a nazi the term nazi becomes meaningless.

same thing

yeah 😛

Well the alt right is a thing, it's just that there is a lot of confusion with what it is and isn't now because everything to the right of Stalin now seems to be 'alt right.'

this jew is literally hitler!

Yeah. lol

well then the buddhists win

hitler was bad and reincarnated into a jew

and well the alt-right is too splintered they themselves don't even know half their own points

its basically at this point

anti-left
anti-immigrant
and a few additional "take your pick" stances

or well not even anti-left, since most of them are socialsists themselves
anti-SJW i guess

thats because alt-right is not a thing

Which makes things even more confusing since even people like us are against far left and against mass immigration, so at face-value it seems like we're for the same things.

its just a term used to lump everyone in together without having to look at what they are saying

yeah thats their selling point

but you have Richard Spencer who wants to get rid of jews and establish a monarchy
Tara McCarthy who is a jew and wants to pay off anyone to move out of paradise to some shithole country
that Stormfront guy who is anti-jew
that Alternative Hypothesis who wants to pay people to move to different american states so you basically change the United States of America to "The 4 race-regions of America"

I mean, at least AH's idea is somewhat feasible, since it doesn't require making people leave the country, but some things are just unrealistic without violence.

But then I am one of those people that thinks violence is going to happen in any case.

Although I mean more for Europe than I do the US when I say that.

Ah's idea is stupid, all you'll do is shrink your own territory, the socialist states will go to hell and you'll end up with the same issue we have now

Welfare leeches trying to sneak in and take stuff, being backed by locals who feel guilty for having money
and the people opposing it

I was talking relatively when compared to other alt righter's 'solutions.' lol

"Just pay them to go back to Africa."

Wut.

Either the pendulum is about to swing to the right in the next decade, causing people to finally snap out of it, cut welfare off and letting these leeches melt away again

or its going to come to blows, in which all the commie LARPers will get their heads and world-view cracked open, followed by a new crusade to purge the west

and you are right, his would be the sanest version, out of a selection of insane solutions

Now back to what this channel was intended for.

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Thank you friend

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pls no

plz yes

Thank you friend

wonder how many feminists are gonna ree at tims mainsplaining

That's their secret

They're always triggered

getting zonked on adderall too much will do that

Thank you friend.

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k a w a i i

Whoops, wrong one.

lol

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Mexicans tried to steal my car again

they tried disabling it but failed

lol

they gave up after a minute of the alarm blaring

fucking mexicans are sexually attracted to my poor civic

I'm gonna just rig it with explosives and tasers and shit

Try flamethrowers. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

😂

@Ghostler rigging it to taze intruders would probably be legal tbh

nope

not in CA at least

I could have light tase

they would be modifying your car to taze themselves

their fault

"Accidental discharge"

yes

I didn't mean for the 100kV neon light transformer to have wires protruding from the seat

and immediately discharge the second the alarm and seat button trip

lol

I don't think they tried starting it

but there is a kick-off relay if the car alarm goes off (Stationary or whatever it's called)

on TOP of the hidden fuel pump switch

the alarm would be super easy to defeat if they had 5 minutes

sadly, finding it is kinda hard

I stuck it in an unorthodox place

lmao

he'll shill NATURAL HEMP OIL

but he won't shill his own discord

I am the dissapoint

Thank you friend

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watashi

https://youtu.be/keHtWLnCL_o

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I'm sorry those people got doxed but many alt righters get doxed too. I don't think we need to do becasue we are right so all we need to do is debate and share ouur ideas and we will win at least that is what I believe. Baked Alaska has also been flaged. i know it's bad to do it to people in countires with hate speech laws I live in one. If you don't want to debate us than stop talking about us and get out of our way. Alt righters talk about ideas that will get us in trouble so why can't you guys? I mean some of our guys have gone to prison for what they belive in. I don't support doing these people because I think we need to show how wrong civic nationalists and atomized individuals are.

Aussie, everyone automatically assumes they're the ones that are right.

We're in your way, because the path you think is 'right' ends in violence.

It always does.

Invariably.

You're not trying to dismantle the engines that cause it

you're fueling it.

YOU ARE the violence.

And I don't mean taht in a 'words are violence' sense

I mean that your movement, the Alt Right, fuels the left

and the left fuels the Alt Right.

lmao he's not going to budge

I know

the problem is perception not some subjective sense of ignorance

But if he's going to say we need to 'get out of their way', he should get out of ours too, then.

If you don't want to debate us than stop talking about us and get out of our way. != I think we need to show how wrong civic nationalists and atomized individuals are.

funny he would say that while in Tim Pool's server, of all places

If you really want to 'save the white race', stop pushing a movement that is going to lead to white bloodshed.

I think whites have should have there own countries. You are against that. I don't want violence but if people who are against white people having their own countires yes I would fight formy people.

You would fight your people for your people.

Yes I said so.

i mean tbh if i lived in a white ethnostate (assuming it actually has internet) i'd flee to the US lmao

if the US doesn't exist i guess china

you can do that if you wish I want all western countires to be white ethno states again.

The point is, I'd take arms against a fascist identitarian insurrection of any sort, whether it's white nationalists or those in favor of white genocide.

Clearly you won't go against those in favor of white genocide becase you won't join the people against it.