Well, guess it's time for me to block Aussie.

absolutely obnoxious.

@TommyC I'm all for free speech, but at this point, he's just spamming. :/

@RyeNorth what are you talking about? I'm just posting jokes.Asexual Sherylite asked me to.

Thanks friend.

@RyeNorth Are you going to ban me?

https://youtu.be/pIkksi344cM

@RyeNorth In don't threaten to ban people it makes you look like this.

Didn't threaten to ban you. Plus he cant.

He just poked an admin, commenting on your spamming. Which you were doing.

As much as I dislike it, there's no rules against spamming in this channel, nor any rules whatsoever, to my knowledge. Everything is done by Admin discretion... which so far seems like nothing.

So far it's complete anarchy in here.

I blocked him. Even with the block on, it's super obnoxious.

I have to agree, it is complete anarchy...which don't get me wrong, having too many rules can be stifling; but having none whatsoever can be just as bad

My bad I got the word wrong.

I dunno, the worst part to it really is that I support his right to engage in discourse and everything, but he never actually brings a conversation, he just regurgitates headlines from his slanted and cherrypicked media, while advocating for actual violent revolution.

But to make it worse, he's actually inhibiting conversation when he's posting 80 pictures in 20 minutes

that's what I mean, that needs to have rules to it

or else things like that are allowed

I don't care what people talk about, nor what they want to post, but to spam things that do nothing for discussion or conversation, that's irritating and should be regulated

Up until that, I at least groaned and rolled my eyes at whatever he had to link. When he posts 8 links with the headlines of the links (because he doesn't actually have anything to say about it other than'SEE?!?') it's annoying and all, but if I"m trying to catch up on conversations and suddenly I see nothing but an image folder dump in the channel, that's prohibitive.

yeah

no I agree

that's what I'm finding is an issue here, there is a lot of unnecessary spam

Fascinating that he ignores that people have sked me to post those images.

"someone asked me to do it, therefore I should be exempt from all criticism!"

send them directly to him, then, m8.

@Deleted User to be honest Asexual Sherylite only seems to know a few phrases, so you can't really use that as an answer to why you did it

'thank you friend'

'that's some hardcore shit'

'go on'

pretty much

and the emote faces

hey, someone ask me to dump my collection of undertale vore

that's all they know apparently so you can't justify your spam by that

@Aktriaz dump your collection of undertale vore

its totally sfw

You guys make it sound like it was unwanted which it wasn't.

oh lord please stahp

ok

like I said, there is a lot of unnecessary spam here and a lot of unregulated things going on. Again, I don't want to silence conversation, but when the spamming and other such things continue, it does silence conversation

@Deleted User just because one person wants it, doesn't mean the server as a whole wants it

there is a certain level of discretion that one should use when it comes to things like that

Fair point @O_Castitatis_Lilium. At least you practice what you preach.

The fuck you mean by that?

In any event, I do believe there should be a small set of rules here, not none at all

@RyeNorth who me?

naah, Aussie.

ah, ok

So you unblocked me. I ment that you say you want people to contribute but you block people you don't like.

@Deleted User there is a difference between contributing and spamming.

I was contributing by giving what people wanted.

*person

while linking some articles and pictures help a conversation by reiterating a point or even illustrating one, having too many can really muddy the waters

So who many makes it spamming?

no, you weren't really, at that point it was spamming and only one person had asked, and it is a person that I don't think really wanted it, but is trying to stir up trouble

10,20,30,ect.

most debates or conversations at most, usually use about 5 to 6 pictures to illustrate a point, and depending on the length of the discussion, debate, or essay, anything past 10-15 article links is too much.

but this is discord, and the page rolls up quite fast as well as too many links muddy a conversation

Anyway this is shitposting right.

So why can't I shitpost here?

no one is saying you can't shitpost here, but even then, you can still spam shitposting

Fuck it

We're doing it live

It wasn't a discussion or a debate it was a guy who wanted me to shitpost in shitposting.

ther eis such a thing as overdoing it

All Australians are mutts

and will be exterminated

_oh shit racewar now_

Move along home

Time for some more shitposting lads.

Half abbo, half shark, half criminal

At least I'm not a liberalist.

Or a civic nationalist.

It's funny how your movement tries to mock civic nationalists. We're just as invested in taking down the anti-white left as you are. We just don't think the way to do that is to be a leftist, but, you know, on the right.

count to four

then three more

if you can see

you'll come with me

What, you don't want more identity politics?

The game the Ethnats are playing is the game the left made.

race past the finish line

Civic Nationalists basically say the game the Left made sucks.

Refuse to play, and dismantle it.

I want to see what's inside ethnonationalists

I bet there's chocolate

We have one

Go ask him

Aussie's mere existence is the funniest thing to me

allamaraine, count to four

Nah, I never get to see the thought process of a ethnonat, and Id rather not squander that.

And well, I found them less irritating than the socialists

I'm actually inclined to agree.

At least somewhat.

Most likely, it's due to the fact that they're only an indirect threat to me.

Nah, Socialists I found incredibly naive.

They either see themselves as some moral arbiter, the holier than thou attittude.

They only give complaints, and solutions, but give no thought to the consequences.

Ethnonats have to give in to the same language-redifining that Socailists do in order for their respective objectives to make any sense to them.

And well, hypocrital as fuck as well.

I asked why is it greedy of me to want to keep more of the money I earned but not of others to want the govt to force people to give money to people who didnt.

They they just say its the right thing to do.

Last time me and Aussie got into it, he kept switching between definitions for the word 'Nation', so much so he got the second definition backwards, and essentially stated (by any literal assessment of the definition he was using) that Australians and Americans are two different races.

Well, if getting the govt to force everyone to pay more.

Nah rather not name another without subject being there.

Ah, he dropped out of here again.

probably because of the vore

naah, he was here after the vore.

Ah the 4chan tactic

classic way to deter normies.

~~To be fair, it wasn't very good vore.~~

Aussie is a normie confirmed

REEEEEEE

How the fuck do you vore as a skeleton

I asl

v o r e c o r e

REEEEEEEEEEEE

skelevore

Like theres no skin there.

shall I post more to help uncover this mystery?

Also, I have the stomach flu so Id rather not imagine the discomfort.

I think the weakness of civic nationalism is that it is weak to outside cultural influences, which is ironically supposed to be what it's strength is. I prefer the nationalist state to an ethnostate, don't get me wrong, but we do have to acknowledge the flaws in civic nationalism.

elaborate.

"weak to outside cultural influences" this 'weakness' could be defined two different ways depending on which side you're on.

Well, for instance, this issue Europe has with mass migration. The idea behind civic nationalism is that anyone coming into the country in question adopts it's values and traditions, or at least celebrates them, but what do you do with large groups of people coming into your country that won't 'play ball', so to speak? Civic nationalism is great, as long as everyone agrees to the conditions of it, but when large groups of people are coming into your country that don't agree to these conditions, I think eventually it will dissolve the state over time.

this is true

Agreed mostly

but mass immigration isn't a product of civic nationalism

And I admit, this is mostly an issue with mass uncontrolled migration in the first place, more than anything else.

I think I was just pointing out that this wouldn't happen in an ethnostate, although it does come with it's own problems, yeah.

weren't you a wolf before

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-21-2015/C2Sjnt.gif

wat

Geh, yes, indeed I was.

otherkin

Nid, I was simply bored.

It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree

But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration

One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.

In much the same way an ethnonat would defend teh core of their race

Not inherently, I suppose, but it is what is being allowed right now by many western countries.

a civic nationalist would defend the core of their nation

Nationalism as a whole has been given a dirty name over the past couple of decades, which I think is one of the core problems, yeah.

Globalism is the opponent of nationalism, and the dominant force.

I think globalism, like communism, is an eventuality, but we're just not there yet or even anywhere close to it.

lel

I came in the middle of the conversation, but, are you serious?

Yes.

from my cold dead hands

Communism simply does not work for humans.

It would have to be forced

I think a globalist structure COULD exist with nations remaining independent.

There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is *way* into the future.

But any true globalism would be too authoritarian, or it would not function.

Another point Ethnonats get is that, western society can't go into a non-western nation and fix that nation.

That nation has to change from within.

^ ^ ^

It's the whole "giving a man a fish vs teaching a man to fish" thing.

Western Society developed where it did, I would challenge, not as a result of race, but as a result of trade.

>There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is way into the future.
If there is no money, there will be no freedom

I'm inclined to agree.

if you are implying a world without freedom, it is possible

If we fall to a one world government