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i think they're being shut down due to the gun violence
I don't think they understand...
Chiraq is in Illinois.
Illinois has a B+ rating with the Giffords Institute.
There literally CAN'T be gun violence that ridiculous. The Democrats have seen to that!
areyou being sarcastic or nah
can't tell because I'm disabled
nice edit hahaha
... its not edited
u can be in denial all u want
why must u shatter my illusions
Spay your bois and neuter your bitches.
man, altright propaganda just writes itself
they -do- say "parody" on the twitter profile
there are legitimate calls for it by some though
you can find people arguing for anything you can think of on twatter..
i saw people calling for the american president to be impeached because they don't like him 😄
yea happens every presidency tbh
Its just escalated now cause the Media are far leftist shills
I hate when ppl take parody account and shill their agenda with them
No different then what lefty journalists did with milos comment
Oh good lord. O_o
thats a lot of porn
He seems a bit fanny flustered
I dont get cuckolding, its like watching porn, but your wife is in it.
You are right there.
He is not a very likable person, neither is she.. https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1015943207551750144
Umbrella man to the rescue! He will call people names till they will get ashamed and improve.
the chink is strong in this one
As a chink, I'm offended
as a chink, good
(I'm not remotely a chink)
that upsets me
This is far too accurate.
that's certainly how i do it
It‘s not the one with the machette.
This reminds me of that podcast with Coleman Hughes, when they're talking about white people who are scared to call someone "black."
isnt that a family guy reference too where stewie is talking to someone and then before he says black, he scours the ends of the earth making sure none of them are near before saying the word, and then doesnt cleveland show up or something
under a potted plant
Random thing: Elmo is the nickname of Erasmus.
According to Wikipedia, he's "the patron saint of sailors and abdominal pain." What a combo.
@zero_consequences Could be. That sounds funny. I don't think I've ever seen a whole episode of Family Guy.
Wtf, theres a patron saint for programmers
and having a penis
Having a penis is a dealbreaker
I'm not gay, but I can be sold on one if the trap also isnt gay
just 2 straight dudes, one of which is incredibly feminine, uhhhhhhhh
tbh liking girly shit is pretty damn gay, and what's girlier than a girl?
a man trying to be a girl is girlier than a girl
because he has to compensate
i mean, caitlyn jenner won woman of the year, proof that men are better at everything, including being a woman.\
So stunning. So brave!
yes! finding a way back into the spotlight way past your prime is such an accomplishment!
Good catch at 1:43.
i dont know dude.... what would you do? that is just a wild hypothetical.... couldnt you just switch it to the single person path and then rush over to unbind one person than 5? this isnt within the purviewof the NAP (unless THAT is the person who tied them up, right?) because there are already pre-determined factors beyond his control apparently that he's not responsible for
The only ethical choice is destroy the trolley because technology is evil
You're just jealous because we have pointy sticks and you don't
i do have pointy sticks
Yeah, but your lifestyle has led you to such a feeble state that you can hardly lift them
Ron Paul talks about the NAP all the time (and he's not an ancap ... he is basically an Objectivist).... ppl shouldnt make the mistake of associating the NAP with anarcho-capitalism per se, as its already in widespread practice culturally generally anyways ... jsut needs to be realized and applied to special govt/statist classes of people too
Be a nihilist
What're you going to do tape it to a roomba?
i can use it
i just dont
"shut anarcho-primitivist"? i dont even know what that is supposed to mean
He was responding to my joke
i was telling the an-prim to shut up as a joke
never heard of that before... and who is that?
anarcho-primitivists believe all tech is evil and should be destroyed, and it was Schedrevka but as a joke
i see... so many anarcho-[fill in blank] .... too many to keep track of apparently
Yeah, they basically believe that all our issues stem from us straying from nature, and that we should return to our roots
lemme pull up the list
And many take it to a really far level\
LOL at the Dem
Like to the point that I've seen people seriously argue that glasses shouldn't exist and that it's fine if people with poor vision died as a result of it because it would improve the gene pool
The joke is
the joke is politics
At the point you try to intervene, the outcome becomes your responsibility.
Thus, violating the NAP.
in some cases that is true... because you can wrecklessly intervene such as in car accidents where you may potentially inflict further damage on someone with broken bone, severe internal injuries, etc
not necessarily violating the NAP tho, bcuz a lot of it stems from intent
The trolley test is essentially a 'Kobayashi Maru'
There's not a scenario that is a 'win'.
And in the wise words of Rush, If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
because aggression means essentially initiation of force will malicious or threatening intent as far as im concerned
The tricky part to having a principle such as the NAP as the sole standard though is that any moral pillar can be perverted to become something it's not meant to be.
ya but he cannot be held responsible for doing nothing ... especially if hes like hyperventalating from the situation and stuf.... he could simple just be frozen in fear and shock ... wouldnt be able to blame him for not doing something either if it wasnt his responsibility to begin with
well itd be hell of a lot better and more clear and definitive than some foggy nebular, fluffly social contract
I mean, in a way, yes.
That's the joke. He cannot be held responsible for doing nothing, so he chooses to do nothing because otherwise he could be held accountable
social contract can mean literally anything.... NAP means non-aggression principle
It *is* a joke afterall
The NAP IS a social contract.
If it's an order by which people live and die, whether they've agreed to it or not, it's a social contract.
i could agree with that.... but it could be enforced more easily and also actually be codified into the foundations of actual valid, explicit social contracts too
so we can replace the foggy idea of a social contract with the NAP ... and then current contract laws/conventions, explicit legal contracts, etc are layered on top of that
What's so foggy about the current paradigm?
whats foggy about a non-existent contract? a contract that can literally change w/o you even knowing it?
Your proposition is to change one non-existent contract with another.
kind of self-evident
no, just a very vague idea with a more definitive one
The NAP as a single pillar is actually far more vague than you seem to think.
It's one of those concepts that works well on paper, but in practice...
the NAP is already pretty much illegal to break .... except for many "protected" classes of people like police currently etc who can freely break it w/ impunity
its not a pillar but a foundation
nor singular either. .... itd be like a software stack... the NAP the bottom most layer and everything else on top of it
Alright, let's disect 'protected classes'.
nobody says (at least not me) the NAP and ONLY the NAP ..... maybe some fringey elements would advocate for that ... fact is that ppl can agree to be governed in a private system of law
A private system of law...?
As in, like, laws that different classes can agree to on their own, independent of each other?
But how do you explain for this?
its getting late dude... im not going to get into this with you tonight.... but obviously government officials, politicians, police etc are most certainly a different class of people with all sorts of rights and privileges that us "ordinary" people dont have
yeah it kind of already happens with people doing business with each other from among countless jurisdictions
While I do think you have a partial point
like in california.... police are allowed to open carry ..... us plebians are not ... see how that class system is structured?
I think that point also proves the corruptability of any system you might put forward.
Take, for instance, the deletion of subpoenaed information in the Hillary campaign.
also.... police can legally threaten you with violence and actually initiation violence against your for "victimless crimes" but of course you cannot even defend yourself from being beaten in the face w/o being charge with "assault on police"
you cannot even TOUCH a police officer w/o being in danger of being charged w/ assault on a police officer
but they can man-handle you all they want.... that is still assault, you see. but they are a protected class
Is seriousposting in the shitpost channel considered next level shitposting?
I mean, if you're under arrest, and you attempt to bloody a cop's nose to get free...
that is not "equality" .... at all!
So if you've violated the NAP, and a security firm comes for you
How is that any different?
depends if youre under arrent for legitimate reasons.... you can be falsely arrested too
its not.... they would be in the right to detain you
Do you think that laws should only be considered violated once there's a victim, not enforced to prevent victims?
bcuz they would be responding to a violation of the NAP in the first place, so they cannot simultaneously commit it in defense
[moved to <#463068752725016579> thread]
listen to this interview
no victim, no crime 😉
So you buy cocaine and snort it up
No victim, no crime.
but if you agree to arbitrary rules and regulations voluntarily, and then you violate the terms of that agreement, and part of the terms is that ppl w/ guns can come after you.... thats all consistent too
But the cocaine that you bought was from a cartel that trafficks people, murders people, etc... and thus, by buying it you're a material supporter of this organization
who is the victim besides someone getting thrown into a cage for not necessarily doing anyone else harm?
and if it was from a legalized drug store?
I'm not talking about a hypothetical.
sure you are LOL
I'm talking about real world 'victimless crimes'.
Just because you don't come face to face with victims of your actions doesn't mean you're off scot free.
it is what is say... you hav eto point to a physical person who was damaged or harmed somehow
the cartels dont depend on you buying a little bit of drugs from them.... they will continue to operate regardless
No, they depend on a lot of people buying drugs from them.
not to mention how the war on drugs essentially created the incentive environment for the rise of the cartels in the first place
yeah, so you cannot take responsibility for their actions if you buy weed from someone who knows someone who knows someone who is in a drug cartel
you never intentially harmed anyone by your choices or actions
Manufacturer - > Importer/Exporter -> Distributor -> Retailer
Enforcers along the way to ensure the safe operations
The goods travel down the line
the money travels up.
This is capitalism.
listen to that vid, plz. its a good vid.... im just goign to defer you to this resource for the time being
ya? and? lol ebay does this w/o state enforcers to ensure operations
They most certainly do.
The US Parcel Service is most definitely a protected service.
ebay is already incentived to provide smooth and faithful transactions in the first place
theyre talking about this ver yidea in the vid i sent
i cannot explain it any better
"Edward Stringham on Radically Rethinking Police" .... lots of overlapping issues
they about ebay too
what a dis-service to the Mises Institute for me to be posting this vid in a <#398973785426100234> thread! shame 😑
'High kill rate against citizens by police'
First strike against this guy.
relative to what?
High kill rate against citizens by police compared to ___________
the answer is compared to regular citizens (and police are just citizens at the end of the day too)
police are WAY more dangerous and volatile with much higher chance of gettign killed by them than regular every day ppl (especially not private security).... no doubt about it
So let's see... Andrew Finch, Kameron Prescott, Jean Pedro Pierre, Dustin Robert Pigeon, Sean Bohinski, Dexter David Anthony Baxter, Brandon lee Bohanon, Timothy Elam, William Porubsky, I'm not going to get any further than that.
Andrew Finch died as police responded to a 'Swatting' incident.
plz dont make me start posting all the most thuggard cases of police brutality .... only takes common sense to talk about how that could have been dealt wit hbetter if they were subject to the same liability that you and i are subject to
To that I respond
Hey kids wanna see a dead body? https://youtu.be/LsrC5QV_Yrc?t=1m1s
Filthy road pirate, amirite?
Police Officers hold one of the most dangerous jobs, especially in the current political climate.
one of the most dangerous jobs? LOL not even on the list of the top 10 most dangerous jobs, mate. sorry you are wrong... police have it MUCH safer than MANY other professions
That in itself is a shit post
not to mention that they arent even obligated to provide protection or policing service if they are ACTUALLY needed .... therer have already been numerous court rulings to codify that police have not obligation to protect you. so why the hell are we being forced to pay them if they arent obligated to protect us?
Construction is up there
and the only reason why they are very dangerous in the first place is because they act so thuggishly, wrecklessly, and risky in the first place
they choose and even TRAINED many time to ESCALATE situations unnecessarily instead of de-escalating them
It is easy to deescalate a situation if you know what are the risk in dealing with that person, but in certain neighbourhoods where the homicide rates are high, the police have no idea what are the risk when dealing in that situation
@RyeNorth cast, I would sacrifice myself as that is the best way to not cmmit an act of violence against others.
so they just assumed the worst case scenario
my fucking stomach is annihilated
I need a new me
I don't like this me
I think I'll fire up another VM tomorrow and have it be a new machine on ix