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2018-07-07 17:44:59 UTC

i think they're being shut down due to the gun violence

2018-07-07 17:45:37 UTC

I don't think they understand...

2018-07-07 17:45:47 UTC

Chiraq is in Illinois.

2018-07-07 17:46:01 UTC

Illinois has a B+ rating with the Giffords Institute.

2018-07-07 17:46:39 UTC

There literally CAN'T be gun violence that ridiculous. The Democrats have seen to that!

2018-07-07 17:48:15 UTC

areyou being sarcastic or nah

2018-07-07 17:48:22 UTC

can't tell because I'm disabled

2018-07-07 17:48:40 UTC

nice edit hahaha

2018-07-07 17:48:54 UTC

... its not edited

2018-07-07 17:49:20 UTC

good joke

2018-07-07 17:50:47 UTC

u can be in denial all u want

2018-07-07 17:51:05 UTC


2018-07-07 17:51:06 UTC

good joke

2018-07-07 17:52:13 UTC

why must u shatter my illusions

2018-07-07 17:52:51 UTC

jesus christ

2018-07-07 17:53:05 UTC

Spay your bois and neuter your bitches.

2018-07-07 18:00:11 UTC

El Ka-bong

2018-07-07 18:32:21 UTC


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2018-07-07 19:34:23 UTC

man, altright propaganda just writes itself

2018-07-07 19:40:19 UTC

they -do- say "parody" on the twitter profile

2018-07-07 20:12:04 UTC

there are legitimate calls for it by some though

2018-07-07 20:17:26 UTC

you can find people arguing for anything you can think of on twatter..

2018-07-07 20:23:06 UTC


2018-07-07 20:54:37 UTC

i saw people calling for the american president to be impeached because they don't like him πŸ˜„

2018-07-07 20:56:03 UTC

yea happens every presidency tbh

2018-07-07 20:56:26 UTC

Its just escalated now cause the Media are far leftist shills

2018-07-07 22:31:54 UTC

I hate when ppl take parody account and shill their agenda with them

2018-07-07 22:32:20 UTC

No different then what lefty journalists did with milos comment

2018-07-08 06:06:47 UTC

Oh good lord. O_o

2018-07-08 06:08:23 UTC


2018-07-08 06:08:34 UTC

thats a lot of porn

2018-07-08 06:09:32 UTC


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2018-07-08 06:45:42 UTC

He seems a bit fanny flustered

2018-07-08 06:49:34 UTC


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2018-07-08 11:39:39 UTC

I dont get cuckolding, its like watching porn, but your wife is in it.

2018-07-08 11:39:44 UTC

You are right there.

2018-07-08 13:19:53 UTC

He is not a very likable person, neither is she.. https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1015943207551750144

2018-07-08 13:36:15 UTC

Umbrella man to the rescue! He will call people names till they will get ashamed and improve.

2018-07-08 13:51:03 UTC


2018-07-08 13:52:47 UTC

the chink is strong in this one

2018-07-08 13:54:11 UTC

As a chink, I'm offended

2018-07-08 13:56:00 UTC

as a chink, good

2018-07-08 13:57:29 UTC


2018-07-08 14:03:28 UTC

(I'm not remotely a chink)

2018-07-08 14:04:04 UTC


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2018-07-08 19:27:49 UTC


2018-07-08 19:30:07 UTC

that upsets me

2018-07-08 20:12:51 UTC

This is far too accurate.


2018-07-08 20:27:46 UTC


2018-07-08 20:28:09 UTC

that's certainly how i do it

2018-07-08 21:32:37 UTC


2018-07-08 21:36:23 UTC

Itβ€˜s not the one with the machette.

2018-07-09 02:12:07 UTC

This reminds me of that podcast with Coleman Hughes, when they're talking about white people who are scared to call someone "black."

2018-07-09 02:17:03 UTC

isnt that a family guy reference too where stewie is talking to someone and then before he says black, he scours the ends of the earth making sure none of them are near before saying the word, and then doesnt cleveland show up or something

2018-07-09 02:17:11 UTC

under a potted plant

2018-07-09 02:23:52 UTC

Random thing: Elmo is the nickname of Erasmus.

2018-07-09 02:43:31 UTC

According to Wikipedia, he's "the patron saint of sailors and abdominal pain." What a combo.

2018-07-09 02:50:25 UTC

@zero_consequences Could be. That sounds funny. I don't think I've ever seen a whole episode of Family Guy.

2018-07-09 02:56:12 UTC

Wtf, theres a patron saint for programmers

2018-07-09 03:47:12 UTC


2018-07-09 03:49:23 UTC

and having a penis

2018-07-09 03:50:10 UTC

Having a penis is a dealbreaker

2018-07-09 03:50:44 UTC

I dunno.

2018-07-09 03:51:19 UTC

I'm not gay, but I can be sold on one if the trap also isnt gay

2018-07-09 03:53:17 UTC

just 2 straight dudes, one of which is incredibly feminine, uhhhhhhhh

2018-07-09 03:53:18 UTC


2018-07-09 03:55:32 UTC

tbh liking girly shit is pretty damn gay, and what's girlier than a girl?

2018-07-09 03:55:52 UTC


2018-07-09 03:58:29 UTC

a man trying to be a girl is girlier than a girl

2018-07-09 03:58:34 UTC

because he has to compensate

2018-07-09 03:59:11 UTC

@Schedrevka well, a man just recently won Woman of the Year, soo

2018-07-09 03:59:25 UTC

i mean, caitlyn jenner won woman of the year, proof that men are better at everything, including being a woman.\

2018-07-09 03:59:39 UTC

So stunning. So brave!

2018-07-09 04:00:21 UTC

yes! finding a way back into the spotlight way past your prime is such an accomplishment!

2018-07-09 04:10:05 UTC

Good catch at 1:43.

2018-07-09 04:20:08 UTC

@Poptarts Can I get your opinion? πŸ˜›


2018-07-09 04:54:07 UTC

i dont know dude.... what would you do? that is just a wild hypothetical.... couldnt you just switch it to the single person path and then rush over to unbind one person than 5? this isnt within the purviewof the NAP (unless THAT is the person who tied them up, right?) because there are already pre-determined factors beyond his control apparently that he's not responsible for

2018-07-09 04:55:14 UTC

The only ethical choice is destroy the trolley because technology is evil

2018-07-09 04:55:38 UTC

shut anarcho-primitivist

2018-07-09 04:56:01 UTC

You're just jealous because we have pointy sticks and you don't

2018-07-09 04:56:09 UTC

i do have pointy sticks

2018-07-09 04:56:11 UTC


2018-07-09 04:56:46 UTC

Yeah, but your lifestyle has led you to such a feeble state that you can hardly lift them

2018-07-09 04:56:51 UTC

Ron Paul talks about the NAP all the time (and he's not an ancap ... he is basically an Objectivist).... ppl shouldnt make the mistake of associating the NAP with anarcho-capitalism per se, as its already in widespread practice culturally generally anyways ... jsut needs to be realized and applied to special govt/statist classes of people too

2018-07-09 04:56:53 UTC

Be a nihilist

2018-07-09 04:57:04 UTC

What're you going to do tape it to a roomba?

2018-07-09 04:57:18 UTC

i can use it

2018-07-09 04:57:22 UTC

i just dont

2018-07-09 04:57:43 UTC

"shut anarcho-primitivist"? i dont even know what that is supposed to mean

2018-07-09 04:57:58 UTC

He was responding to my joke

2018-07-09 04:58:15 UTC

i was telling the an-prim to shut up as a joke

2018-07-09 04:58:30 UTC

never heard of that before... and who is that?

2018-07-09 04:59:08 UTC

anarcho-primitivists believe all tech is evil and should be destroyed, and it was Schedrevka but as a joke

2018-07-09 04:59:09 UTC


2018-07-09 04:59:57 UTC

i see... so many anarcho-[fill in blank] .... too many to keep track of apparently

2018-07-09 05:00:00 UTC

Yeah, they basically believe that all our issues stem from us straying from nature, and that we should return to our roots

2018-07-09 05:00:06 UTC

lemme pull up the list

2018-07-09 05:00:13 UTC

And many take it to a really far level\

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2018-07-09 05:00:59 UTC

LOL at the Dem

2018-07-09 05:01:09 UTC

Like to the point that I've seen people seriously argue that glasses shouldn't exist and that it's fine if people with poor vision died as a result of it because it would improve the gene pool

2018-07-09 05:01:19 UTC

The joke is

2018-07-09 05:01:31 UTC

the joke is politics

2018-07-09 05:01:38 UTC

At the point you try to intervene, the outcome becomes your responsibility.

2018-07-09 05:01:47 UTC

Thus, violating the NAP.

2018-07-09 05:02:36 UTC

in some cases that is true... because you can wrecklessly intervene such as in car accidents where you may potentially inflict further damage on someone with broken bone, severe internal injuries, etc

2018-07-09 05:03:02 UTC

not necessarily violating the NAP tho, bcuz a lot of it stems from intent

2018-07-09 05:03:08 UTC

The trolley test is essentially a 'Kobayashi Maru'

2018-07-09 05:03:19 UTC

There's not a scenario that is a 'win'.

2018-07-09 05:03:25 UTC


2018-07-09 05:03:46 UTC

And in the wise words of Rush, If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

2018-07-09 05:04:39 UTC

because aggression means essentially initiation of force will malicious or threatening intent as far as im concerned

2018-07-09 05:06:07 UTC

The tricky part to having a principle such as the NAP as the sole standard though is that any moral pillar can be perverted to become something it's not meant to be.

2018-07-09 05:06:35 UTC

ya but he cannot be held responsible for doing nothing ... especially if hes like hyperventalating from the situation and stuf.... he could simple just be frozen in fear and shock ... wouldnt be able to blame him for not doing something either if it wasnt his responsibility to begin with

2018-07-09 05:07:29 UTC

well itd be hell of a lot better and more clear and definitive than some foggy nebular, fluffly social contract

2018-07-09 05:07:36 UTC

I mean, in a way, yes.

2018-07-09 05:08:06 UTC

That's the joke. He cannot be held responsible for doing nothing, so he chooses to do nothing because otherwise he could be held accountable

2018-07-09 05:08:06 UTC

social contract can mean literally anything.... NAP means non-aggression principle

2018-07-09 05:08:15 UTC

It *is* a joke afterall

2018-07-09 05:08:20 UTC

The NAP IS a social contract.

2018-07-09 05:09:00 UTC

If it's an order by which people live and die, whether they've agreed to it or not, it's a social contract.

2018-07-09 05:09:24 UTC

i could agree with that.... but it could be enforced more easily and also actually be codified into the foundations of actual valid, explicit social contracts too

2018-07-09 05:10:28 UTC

so we can replace the foggy idea of a social contract with the NAP ... and then current contract laws/conventions, explicit legal contracts, etc are layered on top of that

2018-07-09 05:10:52 UTC

What's so foggy about the current paradigm?

2018-07-09 05:11:26 UTC

whats foggy about a non-existent contract? a contract that can literally change w/o you even knowing it?

2018-07-09 05:11:43 UTC

Your proposition is to change one non-existent contract with another.

2018-07-09 05:11:50 UTC

kind of self-evident

2018-07-09 05:12:18 UTC

no, just a very vague idea with a more definitive one

2018-07-09 05:13:22 UTC

The NAP as a single pillar is actually far more vague than you seem to think.

2018-07-09 05:13:42 UTC

It's one of those concepts that works well on paper, but in practice...

2018-07-09 05:13:43 UTC

the NAP is already pretty much illegal to break .... except for many "protected" classes of people like police currently etc who can freely break it w/ impunity

2018-07-09 05:13:53 UTC

its not a pillar but a foundation

2018-07-09 05:14:17 UTC

nor singular either. .... itd be like a software stack... the NAP the bottom most layer and everything else on top of it

2018-07-09 05:15:04 UTC

Alright, let's disect 'protected classes'.

2018-07-09 05:15:25 UTC

nobody says (at least not me) the NAP and ONLY the NAP ..... maybe some fringey elements would advocate for that ... fact is that ppl can agree to be governed in a private system of law

2018-07-09 05:15:46 UTC

A private system of law...?

2018-07-09 05:16:31 UTC


2018-07-09 05:16:36 UTC

As in, like, laws that different classes can agree to on their own, independent of each other?

2018-07-09 05:16:37 UTC

But how do you explain for this?

2018-07-09 05:17:23 UTC

its getting late dude... im not going to get into this with you tonight.... but obviously government officials, politicians, police etc are most certainly a different class of people with all sorts of rights and privileges that us "ordinary" people dont have

2018-07-09 05:17:56 UTC

yeah it kind of already happens with people doing business with each other from among countless jurisdictions

2018-07-09 05:18:49 UTC

While I do think you have a partial point

2018-07-09 05:19:00 UTC

like in california.... police are allowed to open carry ..... us plebians are not ... see how that class system is structured?

2018-07-09 05:19:16 UTC

I think that point also proves the corruptability of any system you might put forward.

2018-07-09 05:20:08 UTC

Take, for instance, the deletion of subpoenaed information in the Hillary campaign.

2018-07-09 05:20:21 UTC

also.... police can legally threaten you with violence and actually initiation violence against your for "victimless crimes" but of course you cannot even defend yourself from being beaten in the face w/o being charge with "assault on police"

2018-07-09 05:20:54 UTC

you cannot even TOUCH a police officer w/o being in danger of being charged w/ assault on a police officer

2018-07-09 05:21:09 UTC

but they can man-handle you all they want.... that is still assault, you see. but they are a protected class

2018-07-09 05:21:38 UTC

Is seriousposting in the shitpost channel considered next level shitposting?


2018-07-09 05:21:39 UTC

I mean, if you're under arrest, and you attempt to bloody a cop's nose to get free...

2018-07-09 05:21:45 UTC

that is not "equality" .... at all!

2018-07-09 05:22:09 UTC

So if you've violated the NAP, and a security firm comes for you

2018-07-09 05:22:17 UTC

How is that any different?

2018-07-09 05:22:18 UTC

depends if youre under arrent for legitimate reasons.... you can be falsely arrested too

2018-07-09 05:22:36 UTC

its not.... they would be in the right to detain you

2018-07-09 05:22:55 UTC

Do you think that laws should only be considered violated once there's a victim, not enforced to prevent victims?

2018-07-09 05:23:27 UTC

bcuz they would be responding to a violation of the NAP in the first place, so they cannot simultaneously commit it in defense

2018-07-09 05:23:47 UTC

[moved to <#463068752725016579> thread]

2018-07-09 05:23:56 UTC

listen to this interview

2018-07-09 05:24:29 UTC

no victim, no crime πŸ˜‰

2018-07-09 05:24:43 UTC

So you buy cocaine and snort it up

2018-07-09 05:24:47 UTC

get arrested.

2018-07-09 05:24:52 UTC

No victim, no crime.

2018-07-09 05:25:15 UTC

but if you agree to arbitrary rules and regulations voluntarily, and then you violate the terms of that agreement, and part of the terms is that ppl w/ guns can come after you.... thats all consistent too

2018-07-09 05:25:46 UTC

But the cocaine that you bought was from a cartel that trafficks people, murders people, etc... and thus, by buying it you're a material supporter of this organization

2018-07-09 05:26:04 UTC

who is the victim besides someone getting thrown into a cage for not necessarily doing anyone else harm?

2018-07-09 05:26:33 UTC

and if it was from a legalized drug store?

2018-07-09 05:26:59 UTC

I'm not talking about a hypothetical.

2018-07-09 05:27:07 UTC

sure you are LOL

2018-07-09 05:27:08 UTC

I'm talking about real world 'victimless crimes'.

2018-07-09 05:28:01 UTC

Just because you don't come face to face with victims of your actions doesn't mean you're off scot free.

2018-07-09 05:28:34 UTC

it is what is say... you hav eto point to a physical person who was damaged or harmed somehow

2018-07-09 05:29:25 UTC

the cartels dont depend on you buying a little bit of drugs from them.... they will continue to operate regardless

2018-07-09 05:29:51 UTC

No, they depend on a lot of people buying drugs from them.

2018-07-09 05:30:23 UTC

not to mention how the war on drugs essentially created the incentive environment for the rise of the cartels in the first place

2018-07-09 05:30:57 UTC

yeah, so you cannot take responsibility for their actions if you buy weed from someone who knows someone who knows someone who is in a drug cartel

2018-07-09 05:31:21 UTC

you never intentially harmed anyone by your choices or actions

2018-07-09 05:31:29 UTC

Manufacturer - > Importer/Exporter -> Distributor -> Retailer

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Enforcers along the way to ensure the safe operations

2018-07-09 05:31:50 UTC

The goods travel down the line

2018-07-09 05:31:52 UTC

the money travels up.

2018-07-09 05:31:57 UTC

This is capitalism.

2018-07-09 05:31:57 UTC

listen to that vid, plz. its a good vid.... im just goign to defer you to this resource for the time being

2018-07-09 05:32:48 UTC

ya? and? lol ebay does this w/o state enforcers to ensure operations

2018-07-09 05:33:02 UTC

They most certainly do.

2018-07-09 05:33:06 UTC

That's incorrect.

2018-07-09 05:33:56 UTC

The US Parcel Service is most definitely a protected service.

2018-07-09 05:33:59 UTC

ebay is already incentived to provide smooth and faithful transactions in the first place

2018-07-09 05:34:13 UTC

theyre talking about this ver yidea in the vid i sent

2018-07-09 05:34:18 UTC

i cannot explain it any better

2018-07-09 05:34:43 UTC

"Edward Stringham on Radically Rethinking Police" .... lots of overlapping issues

2018-07-09 05:34:59 UTC

they about ebay too

2018-07-09 05:35:58 UTC

what a dis-service to the Mises Institute for me to be posting this vid in a <#398973785426100234> thread! shame πŸ˜‘

2018-07-09 05:36:42 UTC

'High kill rate against citizens by police'

2018-07-09 05:36:55 UTC

First strike against this guy.

2018-07-09 05:37:08 UTC

relative to what?

2018-07-09 05:37:40 UTC

High kill rate against citizens by police compared to ___________

2018-07-09 05:38:40 UTC

the answer is compared to regular citizens (and police are just citizens at the end of the day too)

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2018-07-09 05:40:52 UTC

police are WAY more dangerous and volatile with much higher chance of gettign killed by them than regular every day ppl (especially not private security).... no doubt about it

2018-07-09 05:41:23 UTC

So let's see... Andrew Finch, Kameron Prescott, Jean Pedro Pierre, Dustin Robert Pigeon, Sean Bohinski, Dexter David Anthony Baxter, Brandon lee Bohanon, Timothy Elam, William Porubsky, I'm not going to get any further than that.

2018-07-09 05:42:10 UTC

Andrew Finch died as police responded to a 'Swatting' incident.

2018-07-09 05:43:11 UTC

plz dont make me start posting all the most thuggard cases of police brutality .... only takes common sense to talk about how that could have been dealt wit hbetter if they were subject to the same liability that you and i are subject to

2018-07-09 05:45:53 UTC

To that I respond

2018-07-09 05:46:02 UTC

Hey kids wanna see a dead body? https://youtu.be/LsrC5QV_Yrc?t=1m1s

2018-07-09 05:48:14 UTC

Filthy road pirate, amirite?

2018-07-09 05:49:21 UTC

Police Officers hold one of the most dangerous jobs, especially in the current political climate.

2018-07-09 05:54:01 UTC

one of the most dangerous jobs? LOL not even on the list of the top 10 most dangerous jobs, mate. sorry you are wrong... police have it MUCH safer than MANY other professions

2018-07-09 05:54:24 UTC


2018-07-09 05:54:48 UTC

That in itself is a shit post

2018-07-09 05:56:14 UTC

not to mention that they arent even obligated to provide protection or policing service if they are ACTUALLY needed .... therer have already been numerous court rulings to codify that police have not obligation to protect you. so why the hell are we being forced to pay them if they arent obligated to protect us?

2018-07-09 05:57:16 UTC

Construction is up there

2018-07-09 05:57:55 UTC

and the only reason why they are very dangerous in the first place is because they act so thuggishly, wrecklessly, and risky in the first place

2018-07-09 05:58:33 UTC

they choose and even TRAINED many time to ESCALATE situations unnecessarily instead of de-escalating them

2018-07-09 06:15:59 UTC


2018-07-09 06:19:09 UTC

It is easy to deescalate a situation if you know what are the risk in dealing with that person, but in certain neighbourhoods where the homicide rates are high, the police have no idea what are the risk when dealing in that situation

2018-07-09 06:19:30 UTC

@RyeNorth cast, I would sacrifice myself as that is the best way to not cmmit an act of violence against others.

2018-07-09 06:19:33 UTC

so they just assumed the worst case scenario

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2018-07-09 08:35:28 UTC

my fucking stomach is annihilated

2018-07-09 08:35:43 UTC

I need a new me

2018-07-09 08:35:49 UTC

I don't like this me

2018-07-09 08:36:08 UTC

I think I'll fire up another VM tomorrow and have it be a new machine on ix

2018-07-09 08:43:24 UTC


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