does the size of what i write count?

nope

no, its random

or if i just do 1 every minute....

just up to one message a minute

but i can keep typing and there is a chance i dont gain any xp

oh its some blockchain decrentralized back door inner matrix thing?

it has an internal 1 minute cooldown so people can't spam their way to high rank

who really cares

and what about the threshholds?

obviousoly me

I care! im currently nr.1 😛

why do you guys think i'm devils advocating all day? 😉

you are devil that's why

i think you cared a little @Senny

If I were #2 I would make an Austin Powers reference

i dont know... i think it may have to do with feedback, mentions, and engagement too, etc

like the fook sisters?

cuz I wanted to be normie for once in my life

damn you Senny! and i would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling Senny's

👺

you are already one

I should be able to bypass it though, being a donator. 😦

well not all of us are made of money

ha gotcha mr Devil

you are above me cuz you're a donor

you thought you could hide behind the mask of dr wol

i would support if i was in a financially stable situation

you can be made of money if you don't give it all away. pro tip... dollars make good fire starter in the war

Dr.Wol is an invention, so brilliant a disguise i had forgotten who i was 😉

well i dont feel that all of my hard earned cash should all go to tim

Speaking of being made of money, I forgot to check humble bundle

oh yeah

sanic sale

did you have enough of that?

its good to devil's advocate to test ideas... as I was doing earlier regarding the NAP and law .... but its also easy to slip from devils advocating into trolling though.....

_never played sonic game and is proud about it_

try

just one

it doesnt hurt

i'm not into the genre overall

not a platformer fan?

yea

understandable

righto im off to bed its 2 am here :P

have a good one debatorzz

I mean I grew up on mario as any other 90's kid but .. not really my thing

night

i remember waking up one morning when i was like 9 or 10. it was 2 am and i couldn't go back to sleep. so i spent the next 4 hours trying to beat sonic 2.... i got to robotnik a couple times but couldn't do it... fuck sonic and tails too.. knuckles for lyfe.

oh

nn

i understand

good night devil

i mean i started off with that

👹

wow, well goodnite from across the pond

the sun is starting to set here

anyways

what is this whole debate today?

i'll be going too, we dev- europeans have to stick to gether

did we already discuss about today's video?

ocorina of time is best zelda

night folks

oh, naah. Debate channel is just for the arguments that come up sometimes.

o7

oh

so um

can i just say that the whole purity thing is a bunch of shit?

thats like the opposite of purity

i mean i can held against it as nobody had a perfect record

Scary, you say that

But I found a mistake you made 10 years ago... therefore you're irrelevant.

debate channel is for constantly answering the age old question, `how can we blame the jewish faith this time?`

...

what if, not being perfect is being perfect to the universe.

That's not true

so lets see

It's for constantly answering the age old question `which came first, the chicken or the egg`

hold them against something that was socially acceptable back in the day with today's modern and regressive standards

@Tohob lol

But yeah, I specifically requested it because we used to have a Natsoc that would clog up Shitposting with arguments about dah joos.

dinosaur eggs existed billions of years before chickens existed, checkmate

doesnt sound fair now doesnt it?

This was before the Glorious JDM Discord revolution, where most of what you see was created.

Back in my day, we had four channels!

Actually, I remember #technology

is the jewish argument used because people don't want or know how to outwit the jew?

I remember when the server was brand new and there was only one channel

People blame the Jews because it's easier than acknowledging that White people had to give them power.

how do white people give jews power?

People blame the Jews because it's easier that acknowledging that they didn't do what they could do themselves

*shrug*

right but aren't there less than 10milliion jews worldwide?

It depends on the source you're looking at

so white people have power over the jews?

Right, which would make them a minority in any society. Including societies in which they become a (((problem))), I.E. in control of (((everything)))

or they have enough power to give and then still be in power?

There is some evidence to suggest that they are extremely nepotistic

just trying to understand the race heirarchy... whites>jews>blacks and asians are an unlockable fourth class dlc?

Oh, absolutely they are!

whoa.... easy with the DNA claims @Revan

At least the ones that are practicing.

im just kidding... you can say anything to me... im the worst probably.

Part of the issue you'll spot is that there's a HUGE difference in doctrine between a practicing Jew and an 'Athiest' Jew.

Oh, I figured as much

I'm trying to pay attention to my D&D session in the background

do you tink the elites are practicing jews or atheist? would an atheist jew still hold potential genetic disposition to his/her own race over that of others? how deep in the Talmud are we going?

Don't even bring up the Talmud, lol.

No idea. I haven't even read the first page of the Talmud

The Talmud isn't a book.

It's an encyclopedia.

so like blacks law for sovcits?

Ehh... I doubt it. I'm not incredibly familiar with blacks law.

I've only heard Donut talk about it a few times.

black's law is just a law dictionary that defines terms in a litiguous way... or sometthing... similar to an other law dictionary

but sovcits cite it as their independent interpretation, which if you are dealing with an officer of the LAW... then maybe they know... and hopefully they are good and honest, and will follow the oath they have sworn to.

The Talmud includes outlines on traditions for religious holidays

It also includes rulings from what basically amounts to a medieval Israel supreme court.

The Sanhedrin.

Well... the one thing i see get brought up... is one of the verses refering to the allowance of a virgin as young as the age of 3 to be wed to a priest. to me it is just an archaic form of adoption that gets used as a racial flare for the GAY JEWISH MAFIA IS RUNNING THE WORLD!!!!!!! or something like that....

This particular council had... for lack of a better term, political parties.

That were VASTLY opposed to one another

Ah, hang on

Age 3?

thats some of their argument.. the counter is it is misquoted and the interpretation is that is the age to which a child could convert? also there are other verses that specify that molestation is forbidden.

but its crazy to think that people in a different time, wrote things that have such substantial impact on today....

https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/65726/does-the-talmud-promote-pedophilia

There may have been a ruling at some time.

It'd take far more scholarly effort than I'm really willing to commit to it right now to figure out which house was in power at the time.

and thats typically where i stop..... to me.. whoever is acting as the victim in a situation is more than likely the opportunist? i dunno...

but then you start to read correlations and wonder...... is there someone out to get us... is you the devil or is you the god. you is both.

Imagine a wikipedia article where nothing actually gets deleted.

Put it in pre-medival times.

That's the Sanhedrin portion of the Talmud, essentially.

but theyre gonna tear down the thomas jefferson statue because he had slaves!

Well, personally, I'm of the belief that any religion which says that its followers are God's chosen ones is going to be messed up

I mean, me too.

Do you want to get anti-christ dictators?

so join my religion. i am the chosen one....

Because this is how you get Antichrist dictators.

lol

I would prefer to get regular dictators

Caesar wasn't all that bad

Julius or Octavian (Augustus)

Caesar was a title, not a name.

root of the word Czar or Tzar

uhm

I studied latin for 8 years

It was most definitely a name

why not cicero?

It is also the root of Czar/Tzar/Kaiser/etc

Hey Revan

I just double checked myself

Turns out we're both right.

citizen: Oh, bad memories from Skyrim

i dunno. never got too far into elder scrolls.

Skyrim. The okayest fp rpg.

If it had warband style melee combat, it would be better. Might have to get kingdom come I guess

confused.. cali without electricity due to high heat.... US doesn't have interconnected grid?

But surely bannerlord is right around the corner, right?

Hahahahhahahahahahahaha huhuhuhuhu.... sob..

No, we don't have an interconnected grid.

and lul, California Problems.

Too interconeccted. Thats how you get brownouts.

west US, east US and fucking Texas are the US electronic grid

It's actually rrgionalized a bit more than that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_U.S._power_transmission_grid

Whoa, that's odd to look at. One of FRCC area power companies just bought a SERC region power company. (Yeah, it doesn't really matter. It's just odd to think about.)

Though, thinking about it, Duke Energy was already in that position

sharing a vide in another channal reminded me of this vid which i think is applicable to the automation debate weve had a few times here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8_F8I1Y_U

traps are gay prove me wrong

Thats not a trap. Its a flipping ambust

3rd wave feminism was good for social progress

discuss! 😛

list of subjective terms in that statement:
-3rd wave feminism
-good
-social progress

thats why its a debate my man 😛

The answer is already generally accepted here though

Like 1st wave, okay, 2nd wave, well guess so. 3rd wave, wtf is this.

^

1st and 2nd wave had a lot of questionable elements to them as well, we only remember the good ones

Like the suffragettes(NOT the suffragists) were terrorists at times. Firebombing buildings, throwing axes at politicians, defacing art, etc.

That is true.

Well, and that they could vote, if they served like men. Just that women were not required to be part of the draft.

Could they actually? I thought it was that most women didn't want the right to vote because it would've come with the draft

Which of course fuck them. They were denying others their rights because they didn't want them

Like I said, if the women signed up for the draft, which alot of them didnt, they would be able to vote as well.

It was a right they were willing to sacrifice for another.

Which is strange.

Like men still ahve to sign up, women dont have to,

Just wanting the perks but none of the responsibilities

Do you know any source where I can read about that? Because everything I've heard says that they COULDN'T vote no matter what, but it was commonly accepted that if they were given the right to vote it would come with the responsibility of being forced to enter the draft

is there a discussion currently in progress

And also many considered it to be a pointless right since everyone got married early back then, and 90% of them were just going to vote what their husband did anyways, so double the votes on both sides wasn't going to help them much

But yeah there was a lot of shit back then that still exists in the 3rd wave

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokeby_Venus#Vandalism,_1914

Not even a discussion, since the answer is commonly accepted here.

ok

then I might be able to ask my weird scenario thingy

go for it

a group of white supremacist athletes form a badass team in order to *prove* white supremacy. the sport they play or league they play in doesn't matter, so long as it's one that is extremely popular and has plenty of strong competitors.

they are undefeated.

though they stay silent about their goal, especially in the public eye, their goal is revealed to the public through someone. perhaps their Twitter was hacked or something. this was definitely their goal, there is no question about that. however, afterwards, there is talk of permanently banning the team and its members from playing.

what do you think about this situation? should they be allowed to play? why or why not?

Well, should let them stay right? People play sports for their own reasons.

If a person does something, why should the intent matter as long as the action was good.

Maybe not good, more like, the action does not harm anybody.

To me that sounds like they're banning people for thought crimes

Well, and hopefully, that will inspire some non racists to prove them wrong.

Yeah, but playing against them and hosting them is going to likely ruin your business

A ban caused by someone having the wrong beliefs is not good.

I don't know enough about how sports leagues are structured

I've asked a few others about that

Why would it ruin it? wouldnt everyone turn out in droves to see the supremacists proven wrong?

I don't think so especially not when it's clear they're going to keep winning given their record (which is probably unrelated to their race)

Also, this is also a question on whether intent affects the action

Every titan has to fall at somepoint, sports crowds would eat up the undefeated team getting taken down

some of the stuff I've gotten from others is that, for example, if they used money, fame, and influenced gained from their success in the sport to bring about a white supremacist revival, then we have to deal with that shit all over again

Then that is preemptively punishment

But we don't know they're going to do that

YOu are punishing someone for something that hasnt happened.

my stance was simple: I'm not a sports fan, but I'm a fan of excellence and monstrous shit talking, I would get into whatever sport they played just to see the game where they lose, or even the one where they almost lose

I love the idea that someone would have the gall to think they could do that

it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality

To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.

Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field

I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists

that's another thing I considered

You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.

Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal

everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt

there's the flipside of that though: while it may be "disastrous PR" it would also be... is the right word infamous?

you know, the stupid thing they try to do with actual boxers?

"I'M GONNA WHOOP HIS ASS!!"

Those who develop an opinion upon this white supremacist revalation would be politically movtivated and unlikely to spend anything on merchandise or games at all

Do boxers really focus on their beliefs though?

then they get out into the ring and it's like an hour of defensive boxing

All we see are their skills and personas

yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing

They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen

And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that

if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit

You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation

but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally

Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone

But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way

damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama

All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"

Id say its like that arenanet thing

She wasnt fired for her beleifs

SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers

I think it's a question of who runs the league.

the white supremacist team, proving white supremacy? you can't make a real life villain story any better

He shouldnt be fired for being a supremacist. Should be fired if he starts pissing customers off deliberately.

and then you just make that entire situation anti-climactic by banning them

that's gonna piss off people who were hyped up for the drama