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2018-07-07 23:59:34 UTC

does the size of what i write count?

2018-07-07 23:59:37 UTC

nope

2018-07-07 23:59:40 UTC

no, its random

2018-07-07 23:59:41 UTC

or if i just do 1 every minute....

2018-07-07 23:59:42 UTC

just up to one message a minute

2018-07-07 23:59:45 UTC

but i can keep typing and there is a chance i dont gain any xp

2018-07-07 23:59:54 UTC

oh its some blockchain decrentralized back door inner matrix thing?

2018-07-07 23:59:55 UTC

it has an internal 1 minute cooldown so people can't spam their way to high rank

2018-07-07 23:59:59 UTC

who really cares

2018-07-07 23:59:59 UTC

and what about the threshholds?

2018-07-08 00:00:05 UTC

obviousoly me

2018-07-08 00:00:15 UTC

I care! im currently nr.1 πŸ˜›

2018-07-08 00:00:30 UTC

why do you guys think i'm devils advocating all day? πŸ˜‰

2018-07-08 00:00:39 UTC

you are devil that's why

2018-07-08 00:00:39 UTC

i think you cared a little @Senny

2018-07-08 00:00:39 UTC

If I were #2 I would make an Austin Powers reference

2018-07-08 00:00:44 UTC

i dont know... i think it may have to do with feedback, mentions, and engagement too, etc

2018-07-08 00:00:59 UTC

like the fook sisters?

2018-07-08 00:01:00 UTC

cuz I wanted to be normie for once in my life

2018-07-08 00:01:03 UTC

damn you Senny! and i would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling Senny's

2018-07-08 00:01:25 UTC

πŸ‘Ί

2018-07-08 00:01:34 UTC

you are already one

2018-07-08 00:01:34 UTC

I should be able to bypass it though, being a donator. 😦

2018-07-08 00:01:47 UTC

well not all of us are made of money

2018-07-08 00:01:47 UTC

ha gotcha mr Devil

2018-07-08 00:01:48 UTC

you are above me cuz you're a donor

2018-07-08 00:01:58 UTC

you thought you could hide behind the mask of dr wol

2018-07-08 00:02:00 UTC

i would support if i was in a financially stable situation

2018-07-08 00:02:12 UTC

you can be made of money if you don't give it all away. pro tip... dollars make good fire starter in the war

2018-07-08 00:02:34 UTC

Dr.Wol is an invention, so brilliant a disguise i had forgotten who i was πŸ˜‰

2018-07-08 00:02:40 UTC

well i dont feel that all of my hard earned cash should all go to tim

2018-07-08 00:02:50 UTC

Speaking of being made of money, I forgot to check humble bundle

2018-07-08 00:02:57 UTC

oh yeah

2018-07-08 00:02:59 UTC

sanic sale

2018-07-08 00:03:06 UTC

did you have enough of that?

2018-07-08 00:03:19 UTC

its good to devil's advocate to test ideas... as I was doing earlier regarding the NAP and law .... but its also easy to slip from devils advocating into trolling though.....

2018-07-08 00:03:20 UTC

_never played sonic game and is proud about it_

2018-07-08 00:03:30 UTC

try

2018-07-08 00:03:33 UTC

just one

2018-07-08 00:03:36 UTC

it doesnt hurt

2018-07-08 00:04:00 UTC

i'm not into the genre overall

2018-07-08 00:04:09 UTC

not a platformer fan?

2018-07-08 00:04:13 UTC

yea

2018-07-08 00:04:18 UTC

understandable

2018-07-08 00:04:29 UTC

righto im off to bed its 2 am here :P

have a good one debatorzz

2018-07-08 00:04:30 UTC

I mean I grew up on mario as any other 90's kid but .. not really my thing

2018-07-08 00:04:35 UTC

night

2018-07-08 00:04:37 UTC

i remember waking up one morning when i was like 9 or 10. it was 2 am and i couldn't go back to sleep. so i spent the next 4 hours trying to beat sonic 2.... i got to robotnik a couple times but couldn't do it... fuck sonic and tails too.. knuckles for lyfe.

2018-07-08 00:04:38 UTC

oh

2018-07-08 00:04:38 UTC

nn

2018-07-08 00:04:42 UTC

i understand

2018-07-08 00:04:44 UTC

good night devil

2018-07-08 00:04:49 UTC

i mean i started off with that

2018-07-08 00:04:50 UTC

πŸ‘Ή

2018-07-08 00:05:14 UTC

wow, well goodnite from across the pond

2018-07-08 00:05:26 UTC

the sun is starting to set here

2018-07-08 00:05:28 UTC

anyways

2018-07-08 00:05:36 UTC

what is this whole debate today?

2018-07-08 00:05:48 UTC

i'll be going too, we dev- europeans have to stick to gether

2018-07-08 00:05:49 UTC

did we already discuss about today's video?

2018-07-08 00:05:50 UTC

ocorina of time is best zelda

2018-07-08 00:05:56 UTC

night folks

2018-07-08 00:06:03 UTC

oh, naah. Debate channel is just for the arguments that come up sometimes.

2018-07-08 00:06:06 UTC

o7

2018-07-08 00:06:08 UTC

oh

2018-07-08 00:06:10 UTC

so um

2018-07-08 00:06:25 UTC

can i just say that the whole purity thing is a bunch of shit?

2018-07-08 00:06:38 UTC

thats like the opposite of purity

2018-07-08 00:06:43 UTC

i mean i can held against it as nobody had a perfect record

2018-07-08 00:06:46 UTC

Scary, you say that

2018-07-08 00:06:56 UTC

But I found a mistake you made 10 years ago... therefore you're irrelevant.

2018-07-08 00:06:57 UTC

debate channel is for constantly answering the age old question, `how can we blame the jewish faith this time?`

2018-07-08 00:07:05 UTC

...

2018-07-08 00:07:07 UTC

what if, not being perfect is being perfect to the universe.

2018-07-08 00:07:08 UTC

That's not true

2018-07-08 00:07:12 UTC

so lets see

2018-07-08 00:07:22 UTC

It's for constantly answering the age old question `which came first, the chicken or the egg`

2018-07-08 00:07:34 UTC

hold them against something that was socially acceptable back in the day with today's modern and regressive standards

2018-07-08 00:07:45 UTC

@Tohob lol

2018-07-08 00:07:46 UTC

But yeah, I specifically requested it because we used to have a Natsoc that would clog up Shitposting with arguments about dah joos.

2018-07-08 00:07:47 UTC

dinosaur eggs existed billions of years before chickens existed, checkmate

2018-07-08 00:07:47 UTC

doesnt sound fair now doesnt it?

2018-07-08 00:08:27 UTC

This was before the Glorious JDM Discord revolution, where most of what you see was created.

2018-07-08 00:08:47 UTC

Back in my day, we had four channels!

2018-07-08 00:08:54 UTC

Actually, I remember #technology

2018-07-08 00:09:02 UTC

is the jewish argument used because people don't want or know how to outwit the jew?

2018-07-08 00:09:06 UTC

I remember when the server was brand new and there was only one channel

2018-07-08 00:09:44 UTC

People blame the Jews because it's easier than acknowledging that White people had to give them power.

2018-07-08 00:10:01 UTC

how do white people give jews power?

2018-07-08 00:10:20 UTC

People blame the Jews because it's easier that acknowledging that they didn't do what they could do themselves

2018-07-08 00:11:00 UTC

*shrug*

2018-07-08 00:11:10 UTC

right but aren't there less than 10milliion jews worldwide?

2018-07-08 00:11:44 UTC

It depends on the source you're looking at

2018-07-08 00:11:48 UTC

so white people have power over the jews?

2018-07-08 00:12:01 UTC

Right, which would make them a minority in any society. Including societies in which they become a (((problem))), I.E. in control of (((everything)))

2018-07-08 00:12:07 UTC

or they have enough power to give and then still be in power?

2018-07-08 00:12:38 UTC

There is some evidence to suggest that they are extremely nepotistic

2018-07-08 00:12:43 UTC

just trying to understand the race heirarchy... whites>jews>blacks and asians are an unlockable fourth class dlc?

2018-07-08 00:12:49 UTC

Oh, absolutely they are!

2018-07-08 00:12:56 UTC

whoa.... easy with the DNA claims @Revan

2018-07-08 00:12:57 UTC

At least the ones that are practicing.

2018-07-08 00:13:33 UTC

im just kidding... you can say anything to me... im the worst probably.

2018-07-08 00:13:39 UTC

Part of the issue you'll spot is that there's a HUGE difference in doctrine between a practicing Jew and an 'Athiest' Jew.

2018-07-08 00:13:50 UTC

Oh, I figured as much

2018-07-08 00:13:59 UTC

I'm trying to pay attention to my D&D session in the background

2018-07-08 00:14:31 UTC

do you tink the elites are practicing jews or atheist? would an atheist jew still hold potential genetic disposition to his/her own race over that of others? how deep in the Talmud are we going?

2018-07-08 00:14:52 UTC

Don't even bring up the Talmud, lol.

2018-07-08 00:14:52 UTC

No idea. I haven't even read the first page of the Talmud

2018-07-08 00:15:07 UTC

The Talmud isn't a book.

2018-07-08 00:15:12 UTC

It's an encyclopedia.

2018-07-08 00:15:27 UTC

so like blacks law for sovcits?

2018-07-08 00:16:05 UTC

Ehh... I doubt it. I'm not incredibly familiar with blacks law.

2018-07-08 00:16:11 UTC

I've only heard Donut talk about it a few times.

2018-07-08 00:16:40 UTC

black's law is just a law dictionary that defines terms in a litiguous way... or sometthing... similar to an other law dictionary

2018-07-08 00:17:22 UTC

but sovcits cite it as their independent interpretation, which if you are dealing with an officer of the LAW... then maybe they know... and hopefully they are good and honest, and will follow the oath they have sworn to.

2018-07-08 00:17:22 UTC

The Talmud includes outlines on traditions for religious holidays

2018-07-08 00:17:54 UTC

It also includes rulings from what basically amounts to a medieval Israel supreme court.

2018-07-08 00:18:06 UTC

The Sanhedrin.

2018-07-08 00:18:27 UTC

Well... the one thing i see get brought up... is one of the verses refering to the allowance of a virgin as young as the age of 3 to be wed to a priest. to me it is just an archaic form of adoption that gets used as a racial flare for the GAY JEWISH MAFIA IS RUNNING THE WORLD!!!!!!! or something like that....

2018-07-08 00:18:32 UTC

This particular council had... for lack of a better term, political parties.

2018-07-08 00:18:46 UTC

That were VASTLY opposed to one another

2018-07-08 00:18:57 UTC

Ah, hang on

2018-07-08 00:19:11 UTC

Age 3?

2018-07-08 00:21:17 UTC

thats some of their argument.. the counter is it is misquoted and the interpretation is that is the age to which a child could convert? also there are other verses that specify that molestation is forbidden.

2018-07-08 00:21:51 UTC

but its crazy to think that people in a different time, wrote things that have such substantial impact on today....

2018-07-08 00:23:28 UTC

There may have been a ruling at some time.

2018-07-08 00:24:08 UTC

It'd take far more scholarly effort than I'm really willing to commit to it right now to figure out which house was in power at the time.

2018-07-08 00:25:32 UTC

and thats typically where i stop..... to me.. whoever is acting as the victim in a situation is more than likely the opportunist? i dunno...

2018-07-08 00:26:25 UTC

but then you start to read correlations and wonder...... is there someone out to get us... is you the devil or is you the god. you is both.

2018-07-08 00:26:35 UTC

Imagine a wikipedia article where nothing actually gets deleted.

2018-07-08 00:26:49 UTC

Put it in pre-medival times.

2018-07-08 00:27:18 UTC

That's the Sanhedrin portion of the Talmud, essentially.

2018-07-08 00:27:27 UTC

but theyre gonna tear down the thomas jefferson statue because he had slaves!

2018-07-08 00:27:31 UTC

Well, personally, I'm of the belief that any religion which says that its followers are God's chosen ones is going to be messed up

2018-07-08 00:27:43 UTC

I mean, me too.

2018-07-08 00:27:56 UTC

Do you want to get anti-christ dictators?

2018-07-08 00:28:01 UTC

so join my religion. i am the chosen one....

2018-07-08 00:28:02 UTC

Because this is how you get Antichrist dictators.

2018-07-08 00:28:06 UTC

lol

2018-07-08 00:28:20 UTC

I would prefer to get regular dictators

2018-07-08 00:28:24 UTC

Caesar wasn't all that bad

2018-07-08 00:28:59 UTC

Julius or Octavian (Augustus)

2018-07-08 00:29:24 UTC

Caesar was a title, not a name.

2018-07-08 00:29:46 UTC

root of the word Czar or Tzar

2018-07-08 00:29:49 UTC

uhm

2018-07-08 00:30:04 UTC

I studied latin for 8 years

2018-07-08 00:30:09 UTC

It was most definitely a name

2018-07-08 00:30:24 UTC

why not cicero?

2018-07-08 00:30:26 UTC

It is also the root of Czar/Tzar/Kaiser/etc

2018-07-08 00:30:31 UTC

Hey Revan

2018-07-08 00:30:36 UTC

I just double checked myself

2018-07-08 00:30:40 UTC

Turns out we're both right.

2018-07-08 00:31:04 UTC

citizen: Oh, bad memories from Skyrim

2018-07-08 00:32:14 UTC

i dunno. never got too far into elder scrolls.

2018-07-08 01:42:40 UTC

Skyrim. The okayest fp rpg.

2018-07-08 02:00:57 UTC

If it had warband style melee combat, it would be better. Might have to get kingdom come I guess

2018-07-08 02:01:57 UTC

confused.. cali without electricity due to high heat.... US doesn't have interconnected grid?

2018-07-08 02:02:06 UTC

But surely bannerlord is right around the corner, right?

2018-07-08 02:08:59 UTC

Hahahahhahahahahahahaha huhuhuhuhu.... sob..

2018-07-08 02:14:53 UTC

No, we don't have an interconnected grid.

2018-07-08 02:15:09 UTC

and lul, California Problems.

2018-07-08 02:19:33 UTC

Too interconeccted. Thats how you get brownouts.

2018-07-08 03:46:39 UTC

west US, east US and fucking Texas are the US electronic grid

2018-07-08 04:43:59 UTC

It's actually rrgionalized a bit more than that

2018-07-08 07:27:33 UTC

Whoa, that's odd to look at. One of FRCC area power companies just bought a SERC region power company. (Yeah, it doesn't really matter. It's just odd to think about.)

2018-07-08 07:35:06 UTC

Though, thinking about it, Duke Energy was already in that position

2018-07-08 13:04:36 UTC

sharing a vide in another channal reminded me of this vid which i think is applicable to the automation debate weve had a few times here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8_F8I1Y_U

2018-07-08 14:01:10 UTC

traps are gay prove me wrong

2018-07-08 14:05:12 UTC

Thats not a trap. Its a flipping ambust

2018-07-08 17:48:23 UTC

3rd wave feminism was good for social progress

discuss! πŸ˜›

2018-07-08 17:57:44 UTC

list of subjective terms in that statement:
-3rd wave feminism
-good
-social progress

2018-07-08 17:58:34 UTC

thats why its a debate my man πŸ˜›

2018-07-08 17:59:18 UTC

The answer is already generally accepted here though

2018-07-08 17:59:39 UTC

Like 1st wave, okay, 2nd wave, well guess so. 3rd wave, wtf is this.

2018-07-08 18:24:21 UTC

^

2018-07-08 18:27:12 UTC

1st and 2nd wave had a lot of questionable elements to them as well, we only remember the good ones

2018-07-08 18:28:05 UTC

Like the suffragettes(NOT the suffragists) were terrorists at times. Firebombing buildings, throwing axes at politicians, defacing art, etc.

2018-07-08 18:28:06 UTC

That is true.

2018-07-08 18:28:36 UTC

Well, and that they could vote, if they served like men. Just that women were not required to be part of the draft.

2018-07-08 18:29:19 UTC

Could they actually? I thought it was that most women didn't want the right to vote because it would've come with the draft

2018-07-08 18:29:49 UTC

Which of course fuck them. They were denying others their rights because they didn't want them

2018-07-08 18:30:15 UTC

Like I said, if the women signed up for the draft, which alot of them didnt, they would be able to vote as well.

2018-07-08 18:30:35 UTC

It was a right they were willing to sacrifice for another.

2018-07-08 18:32:03 UTC

Which is strange.

2018-07-08 18:32:18 UTC

Like men still ahve to sign up, women dont have to,

2018-07-08 18:32:33 UTC

Just wanting the perks but none of the responsibilities

2018-07-08 18:33:11 UTC

Do you know any source where I can read about that? Because everything I've heard says that they COULDN'T vote no matter what, but it was commonly accepted that if they were given the right to vote it would come with the responsibility of being forced to enter the draft

2018-07-08 18:33:12 UTC

is there a discussion currently in progress

2018-07-08 18:34:20 UTC

And also many considered it to be a pointless right since everyone got married early back then, and 90% of them were just going to vote what their husband did anyways, so double the votes on both sides wasn't going to help them much

2018-07-08 18:35:12 UTC

But yeah there was a lot of shit back then that still exists in the 3rd wave

2018-07-08 18:35:16 UTC

Not even a discussion, since the answer is commonly accepted here.

2018-07-08 18:35:32 UTC

ok

2018-07-08 18:35:40 UTC

then I might be able to ask my weird scenario thingy

2018-07-08 18:35:58 UTC

go for it

2018-07-08 18:36:33 UTC

a group of white supremacist athletes form a badass team in order to *prove* white supremacy. the sport they play or league they play in doesn't matter, so long as it's one that is extremely popular and has plenty of strong competitors.

they are undefeated.

though they stay silent about their goal, especially in the public eye, their goal is revealed to the public through someone. perhaps their Twitter was hacked or something. this was definitely their goal, there is no question about that. however, afterwards, there is talk of permanently banning the team and its members from playing.

what do you think about this situation? should they be allowed to play? why or why not?

2018-07-08 18:37:20 UTC

Well, should let them stay right? People play sports for their own reasons.

2018-07-08 18:37:45 UTC

If a person does something, why should the intent matter as long as the action was good.

2018-07-08 18:38:11 UTC

Maybe not good, more like, the action does not harm anybody.

2018-07-08 18:38:22 UTC

To me that sounds like they're banning people for thought crimes

2018-07-08 18:38:23 UTC

Well, and hopefully, that will inspire some non racists to prove them wrong.

2018-07-08 18:38:46 UTC

Yeah, but playing against them and hosting them is going to likely ruin your business

2018-07-08 18:38:51 UTC

A ban caused by someone having the wrong beliefs is not good.

2018-07-08 18:38:56 UTC

I don't know enough about how sports leagues are structured

2018-07-08 18:38:56 UTC

I've asked a few others about that

2018-07-08 18:39:09 UTC

Why would it ruin it? wouldnt everyone turn out in droves to see the supremacists proven wrong?

2018-07-08 18:39:55 UTC

I don't think so especially not when it's clear they're going to keep winning given their record (which is probably unrelated to their race)

2018-07-08 18:40:01 UTC

Also, this is also a question on whether intent affects the action

2018-07-08 18:40:22 UTC

Every titan has to fall at somepoint, sports crowds would eat up the undefeated team getting taken down

2018-07-08 18:40:26 UTC

some of the stuff I've gotten from others is that, for example, if they used money, fame, and influenced gained from their success in the sport to bring about a white supremacist revival, then we have to deal with that shit all over again

2018-07-08 18:40:53 UTC

Then that is preemptively punishment

2018-07-08 18:40:55 UTC

But we don't know they're going to do that

2018-07-08 18:41:04 UTC

YOu are punishing someone for something that hasnt happened.

2018-07-08 18:41:11 UTC

my stance was simple: I'm not a sports fan, but I'm a fan of excellence and monstrous shit talking, I would get into whatever sport they played just to see the game where they lose, or even the one where they almost lose

2018-07-08 18:41:44 UTC

I love the idea that someone would have the gall to think they could do that

2018-07-08 18:42:09 UTC

it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality

2018-07-08 18:42:33 UTC

To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.

2018-07-08 18:42:39 UTC

Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field

2018-07-08 18:42:41 UTC

I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists

2018-07-08 18:43:08 UTC

that's another thing I considered

2018-07-08 18:43:09 UTC

You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.

2018-07-08 18:43:10 UTC

Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal

2018-07-08 18:43:31 UTC

everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt

2018-07-08 18:44:00 UTC

there's the flipside of that though: while it may be "disastrous PR" it would also be... is the right word infamous?

2018-07-08 18:44:19 UTC

you know, the stupid thing they try to do with actual boxers?

2018-07-08 18:44:26 UTC

"I'M GONNA WHOOP HIS ASS!!"

2018-07-08 18:44:29 UTC

Those who develop an opinion upon this white supremacist revalation would be politically movtivated and unlikely to spend anything on merchandise or games at all

2018-07-08 18:44:34 UTC

Do boxers really focus on their beliefs though?

2018-07-08 18:44:40 UTC

then they get out into the ring and it's like an hour of defensive boxing

2018-07-08 18:44:52 UTC

All we see are their skills and personas

2018-07-08 18:45:01 UTC

yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing

2018-07-08 18:45:14 UTC

They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen

2018-07-08 18:45:16 UTC

And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that

2018-07-08 18:45:32 UTC

if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit

2018-07-08 18:45:42 UTC

You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation

2018-07-08 18:45:58 UTC

but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally

2018-07-08 18:46:35 UTC

Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone

2018-07-08 18:46:53 UTC

But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way

2018-07-08 18:47:17 UTC

damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama

2018-07-08 18:47:26 UTC

All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"

2018-07-08 18:47:32 UTC

Id say its like that arenanet thing

2018-07-08 18:47:38 UTC

She wasnt fired for her beleifs

2018-07-08 18:47:45 UTC

SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers

2018-07-08 18:47:51 UTC

I think it's a question of who runs the league.

2018-07-08 18:47:55 UTC

the white supremacist team, proving white supremacy? you can't make a real life villain story any better

2018-07-08 18:48:07 UTC

He shouldnt be fired for being a supremacist. Should be fired if he starts pissing customers off deliberately.

2018-07-08 18:48:15 UTC

and then you just make that entire situation anti-climactic by banning them

2018-07-08 18:48:30 UTC

that's gonna piss off people who were hyped up for the drama

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