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2018-10-02 19:34:18 UTC

#VoteMockingbird2020

2018-10-02 19:34:32 UTC

I honestly just slap the roll on without looking

2018-10-02 19:34:43 UTC

I cannot be controlled. I am the overhuman

2018-10-02 19:35:14 UTC

^ did you get affected by the kid earlier

2018-10-02 19:35:31 UTC

No. I'm just disappointed

2018-10-02 19:37:50 UTC

Don't be disappointed. I'm sure I'll be elected.

2018-10-02 19:37:59 UTC

unlikely

2018-10-02 19:38:07 UTC

With a platform like that, there is no way I can lose.

2018-10-02 19:38:15 UTC

best of luck

2018-10-02 19:38:18 UTC

thx

2018-10-02 21:00:43 UTC

@Jes Iโ€™d define Hitler as centre right

2018-10-02 21:00:50 UTC

Imo

2018-10-02 21:01:10 UTC

in aggregate yeah.

2018-10-02 21:01:31 UTC

you cant put it in normal left right scale.
its third postition....

2018-10-02 21:02:05 UTC

It depends on who you ask

2018-10-02 21:02:16 UTC

Some people say Hitler is all sorts of things

2018-10-02 21:02:47 UTC

I personally think if you look at him objectively he is centre right. Due to his mixture of right and left policies

2018-10-02 21:02:54 UTC

yeah (((some people))) are spreading alot of miss information about him

2018-10-02 21:18:59 UTC

What's your opinion on gaslighting?

2018-10-02 21:21:37 UTC

you mean mainsream media๐Ÿ˜

2018-10-02 22:30:43 UTC

can anyone think of a justifiable example of violating the harm principle.

2018-10-02 22:31:31 UTC

I thought the harm principal was like Azimov's rules for robots. a closed logic loop

2018-10-02 22:31:50 UTC

The Harm Principle states that the *only* justification for interfering in another's liberty is to prevent harm to others.

2018-10-02 22:32:25 UTC

its close to it but not quite the same thing

2018-10-02 22:35:40 UTC

@toastermuffin to save white race.

2018-10-02 22:36:32 UTC

have a feeling i would get kicked out of school if i wrote that

2018-10-02 22:37:28 UTC

thats exactly the problem.
cultural marxism have gotten so far. and people are so brain washed.

2018-10-02 22:37:57 UTC

bioethics is hard for a libertarian

2018-10-02 22:39:50 UTC

yeah. beacause libetarians are just usefull idiots for marxist.

2018-10-02 22:41:10 UTC

its like polar ends of the spectrum

2018-10-02 22:43:27 UTC

libetarians arent doing anything to fight against marxist. and even agreeing to let them do what they want.

2018-10-02 22:44:26 UTC

true to a degree

2018-10-02 22:44:45 UTC

wait is your school assignment to find a loophole in the harm principal?

2018-10-02 22:45:11 UTC

yup need to think up a counterpoint for it

2018-10-02 22:45:54 UTC

easy.
libetarians have no ways of fighting against subversion.

2018-10-02 22:46:31 UTC

there isnt an exception. thats why its so important

2018-10-02 22:46:40 UTC

you dont have the right to harm others

2018-10-02 22:46:49 UTC

others dont have the right to harm you

2018-10-02 22:47:07 UTC

you have the right to self defence or the defence of others

2018-10-02 22:47:17 UTC

wtf is your school teaching you?

2018-10-02 22:47:21 UTC

ill probaly just wright that thee is no case in witch that its okay to violate it worst case its a single lost point

2018-10-02 22:48:01 UTC

its a bioethics classs and we are focusing on autominity

2018-10-02 22:48:02 UTC

you cant preemptivly harm people. it has to be defence

2018-10-02 22:48:28 UTC

otherwise thatd be every killers defence in court

2018-10-02 22:48:57 UTC

yeah there is no example i can tink ive asked like 5 diffrent people for help

2018-10-02 22:49:17 UTC

no one can think how to prove it wrong but my professer bs

2018-10-02 22:49:59 UTC

sorry mate, i may be showing my age here but is your prof a marxist?

2018-10-02 22:50:12 UTC

he very well could be

2018-10-02 22:50:25 UTC

because the only way to violate it is to state that the collective is more important than the individual

2018-10-02 22:50:30 UTC

would not susprise me

2018-10-02 22:50:44 UTC

and that goes against the core of the principal

2018-10-02 22:51:29 UTC

ill make it work we will debate it in class and prove it true

2018-10-02 22:52:00 UTC

so you got 2 choices. answer the question correctly and risk being marked down or write some marxist colectivist bs and get points

2018-10-02 22:52:26 UTC

good luck mate, i dont envy your position

2018-10-02 22:53:37 UTC

these are one point HW. he dosent even read them as far as i know just makes sure you wrote something. i can mention collectivism and how its still wrong

2018-10-02 22:54:02 UTC

Just mention the standard thing, to prevent harm to others is the only time when harm should be done

2018-10-02 22:57:24 UTC

Say preemptive counter strike.

2018-10-02 22:57:31 UTC

@toastermuffin follow Shapiro advice here

2018-10-02 22:58:23 UTC

thank yall for the help ill be sure to make the best of it as i can

2018-10-02 22:59:13 UTC

Be on the republican underground

2018-10-02 22:59:45 UTC

Join YAF or something. But always wear a face mask lol

2018-10-02 23:20:53 UTC

You should become Jeffersonian Republicans

2018-10-02 23:26:33 UTC

cough cough the Louisiana purchase is unconstutional

2018-10-02 23:26:42 UTC

@toastermuffin ssssshhhh

2018-10-02 23:27:10 UTC

We don't need to relitigate the Louisiana purchase. Last thing we need here are the fuckin french.

2018-10-02 23:28:22 UTC

didnt say its a bad thing

2018-10-02 23:28:37 UTC

Just. Yaknow?

2018-10-02 23:28:46 UTC

Just don't tell them

2018-10-02 23:29:03 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-02 23:31:44 UTC

The US constitution gives no explicit direction on the acquisition of territory

2018-10-02 23:32:00 UTC

besides do you really want that land to be part of the British Empire?

2018-10-02 23:32:06 UTC

no you don't

2018-10-02 23:32:07 UTC

therefor it is left to the individual states not the goverment

2018-10-02 23:32:53 UTC

There were no established states in the Louisiana purchase

2018-10-02 23:33:39 UTC

yes and the land should have ben purchased by individual states not the fed

2018-10-02 23:34:22 UTC

why? That land was turned over to individual states once they were established
the purchase just secured the land as american

2018-10-02 23:35:14 UTC

you are not wrong but the goverment was behaving outside of its scope

2018-10-02 23:35:24 UTC

not saying it was a bad deal

2018-10-02 23:35:36 UTC

just unconstutional

2018-10-02 23:35:51 UTC

what part of the constitution did it violate?

2018-10-02 23:37:42 UTC

since it is not expressly permited to the federal goverment the states reserve said right Amendment X
RIGHTS RESERVED TO STATES OR PEOPLE
Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791. The first 10 amendments form the Bill of Rights

2018-10-02 23:39:42 UTC

and purchase of alaska

2018-10-02 23:41:51 UTC

DAMN FEDERALISTS

2018-10-02 23:42:00 UTC

Its not my FAULT

2018-10-02 23:42:10 UTC

the senate blocked my amendments !

2018-10-02 23:42:25 UTC

but at least we got Montana

2018-10-03 03:49:37 UTC

Question that's really a poll:

Do schools in your local area read a book on due process like To Kill a Mockingbird or The Scarlet Letter?

2018-10-03 04:10:39 UTC

only a few classes and only the honors ones

2018-10-03 10:17:05 UTC

so you need to be an honour student to be taught about due process?

2018-10-03 10:17:16 UTC

this explains a lot lol

2018-10-03 11:41:48 UTC

To Kill a Mockingbird was pretty standard, from what I know.

2018-10-03 11:50:17 UTC

To Kill A Mockingbird and The Scarlet Letter were pretty standard, but the curricula have been shifting and it's no longer a given people will read any particular book. Just as it has become standard to use *A People's History* as the standard History textbook, I got a hunch a number of school districts have removed these books from the curricula for more contemporaneous and politically-oriented flair.

50 years ago, everyone was required to read *The Federalist Papers,* Now you can't even find humanities college graduates who have read any of them.

2018-10-03 11:50:56 UTC

And colleges will discipline people for handing out copies of the constitution.

2018-10-03 11:52:25 UTC

That said, I don't have any data personally on what is being taught at local primary schools.

2018-10-03 12:20:50 UTC

I've never read either but I did watch *Easy A* with Emma Stone a couple of years ago

2018-10-03 13:16:35 UTC

@pratel my school required it. I believe that my son's school he will go to later requires it as well

2018-10-03 13:17:09 UTC

But I'm trying to move him into the GT courses now in elementary school

2018-10-03 13:17:16 UTC

So I dunno if it changes anything

2018-10-03 13:17:25 UTC

"it" being which book?

2018-10-03 13:17:35 UTC

The two you mentioned

2018-10-03 13:17:47 UTC

To kill a mockingbird and scarlet letter

2018-10-03 13:18:00 UTC

Is this a red district/state or blue?

2018-10-03 13:18:14 UTC

Blue

2018-10-03 13:18:23 UTC

But we have a red governor. Flips back and forth

2018-10-03 13:18:44 UTC

Maryland is a bit of a mixture. It's only solidly blue for presidential elections

2018-10-03 13:18:51 UTC

And maybe senatorial ones

2018-10-03 13:19:12 UTC

It's not like most blue places

2018-10-03 13:19:19 UTC

Imo

2018-10-03 13:19:37 UTC

MD always seemed pretty Blue to me. I went to DMV and felt completely out of place in MD. But I'll bite.

2018-10-03 13:19:51 UTC

I've just lived here my whole life

2018-10-03 13:19:51 UTC

Ironically, felt much more in place in PA.

2018-10-03 13:20:02 UTC

Yeah pa is way more blue than here

2018-10-03 13:20:17 UTC

It probably helped I was in western PA.

2018-10-03 13:20:22 UTC

Yeah

2018-10-03 13:20:35 UTC

But Philly didn't seem as blue as MD to me.

2018-10-03 13:20:45 UTC

But it would have also been the DC side of MD too.

2018-10-03 13:20:48 UTC

Where did you go?

2018-10-03 13:20:53 UTC

I compared it to VA.

2018-10-03 13:20:54 UTC

In md

2018-10-03 13:21:00 UTC

Around DC.

2018-10-03 13:21:23 UTC

Oh well yeah. That's blue af

2018-10-03 13:21:50 UTC

When you go pretty much anywhere else it gets pretty red

2018-10-03 13:22:06 UTC

Montgomery, prince George's counties are really blue. Deep blue

2018-10-03 13:22:40 UTC

Yeah, I got the impression rich Democrats live in MD. Business happens in DC and Republicans find places in VA.

2018-10-03 13:22:50 UTC

They live around DC so yeah

2018-10-03 13:22:55 UTC

Though VA has been trending blue due to DC.

2018-10-03 13:23:24 UTC

You also have to remember a lot of Republicans aren't exactly wide open about it the way Dems are

2018-10-03 13:23:38 UTC

You can spot a Dem

2018-10-03 13:23:56 UTC

It's a bit harder to find the Republican unless they're old and you're assuming it

2018-10-03 13:24:23 UTC

I think that's actually a problem with Republicans.

2018-10-03 13:24:31 UTC

I was surprised by how many people love Hogan as governor

2018-10-03 13:24:34 UTC

It creates a situation where the left is always dominating the conversation.

2018-10-03 13:24:52 UTC

But will agree, the right tends to silence and 'getting along'

2018-10-03 13:25:48 UTC

I was surprised by how many people love Hogan as governor

2018-10-03 13:27:02 UTC

I'm not concerned about left leaning stuff at the state level. I just don't want the fed doing it. I'm a republican even still but until I'm not debating the entire fucking country and instead just debating people in my state, I'm not going to be satisfied.

2018-10-03 13:27:31 UTC

Don't really follow.

2018-10-03 13:27:39 UTC

But all politics is local.

2018-10-03 13:27:48 UTC

The nation follows the states.

2018-10-03 13:28:02 UTC

And state policies can matter as much as federal ones.

2018-10-03 13:38:47 UTC

They do, but there's too much time spent by the left trying to have fights at the federal level

2018-10-03 17:11:00 UTC

Turns out its okay to violate the harm/nap if it's for your own good kms

2018-10-03 21:10:21 UTC

watch the last minute.
i get the feeling, he already tries to setup his 2020 nomination

2018-10-03 21:10:53 UTC

first gay US president, and then it's a Republican from the southern states? boy i'd pay to watch that!

2018-10-03 21:15:51 UTC

that wasnt anything new.
afghanistan will stay as opium production place and america "somehow" never find peace with talibans.

2018-10-04 00:41:55 UTC

Question: utilizing the l.ogic you normally read from outlets like Jezebel is this title not racist?
https://jezebel.com/an-ode-to-the-genius-of-immigrant-food-1829442559

2018-10-04 03:05:41 UTC

>Logic
>Jezebel
Your question has flaws.

2018-10-04 05:54:21 UTC

Hey <@&464233153654030360> any see the ford news

2018-10-04 05:54:39 UTC

why would you at gamers?

2018-10-04 05:54:40 UTC

What?

2018-10-04 05:54:40 UTC

Wich one??

2018-10-04 05:54:40 UTC

You mean the stuff from her ex-boyfriend, gamer?

2018-10-04 05:54:41 UTC

AAAAAAAAAA

2018-10-04 05:54:54 UTC

GAMERS

2018-10-04 05:54:54 UTC

What?

2018-10-04 05:55:01 UTC

Epic gamers in here

2018-10-04 05:55:01 UTC

RISE UP

2018-10-04 05:55:04 UTC

uhhhhhhhhhh

2018-10-04 05:55:07 UTC

Lol

2018-10-04 05:55:08 UTC

GAMERS RISE UP

2018-10-04 05:55:12 UTC

<a:pingannoyed:424293636402970626>

2018-10-04 05:55:25 UTC

GAMERS ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED GROUP

2018-10-04 05:55:30 UTC

nah

2018-10-04 05:55:32 UTC

Is fourchan at Ford and the other accusers??

2018-10-04 05:55:38 UTC

im good

2018-10-04 05:55:47 UTC

Who is this Four Chan?

2018-10-04 05:55:49 UTC

Why

2018-10-04 05:55:53 UTC

idk whats going on

2018-10-04 05:55:53 UTC

Oh u mean like the car game? Ford?

2018-10-04 05:56:17 UTC

The presumption of innocence is sexist

2018-10-04 05:56:21 UTC

Itโ€™s 2am you cock blaster @Jokerthefool

2018-10-04 05:56:26 UTC

Innocent until proven guilty is oppression

2018-10-04 05:56:44 UTC

*who what why beddy bye -_-*

2018-10-04 05:56:45 UTC

I have a vagina, believe you me

2018-10-04 05:57:06 UTC

@Swedishmafia101 it's like the Chinese triad, only there's four of them

2018-10-04 05:57:26 UTC

WHY MUST I BE CALLED IN THE GAMING CHANNEL FOR POLITCIS

2018-10-04 05:57:31 UTC

Seriously tho

2018-10-04 05:57:48 UTC

HOW IS THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE NOW AN ISSUE???

2018-10-04 05:58:14 UTC

THAT'S LITERALLY THE FOUNDATION OF EVERY DEMOCRACY'S JUDICIAL SYSTEM

2018-10-04 05:58:36 UTC

BECAUSE THE LEFT HATE MAKING THINGS COMPLEX

2018-10-04 05:58:50 UTC

you mean love* (?)

2018-10-04 05:58:54 UTC

THEY WANT TO SEE KAVANNGH AS A RAPIST NO MATTER THE LACK OF EVIDENCE

2018-10-04 05:59:14 UTC

SO OF COURSE THEY HATE THE PRESUMPATION OF INNOCENCE

2018-10-04 05:59:34 UTC

This is how dictatorships are born

2018-10-04 05:59:36 UTC

BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S A RULE THAT PROTECTS RAPISTS

2018-10-04 06:00:55 UTC

We won't have random dictatorships because some people think presumption of innocence is a bad thing

2018-10-04 06:01:30 UTC

This is just a bunch of democrats taking advantage of their emotion-driven base to make political gains

2018-10-04 06:01:35 UTC

it's really nothing new

2018-10-04 06:01:59 UTC

I'm saying the rhetoric is that of a dictator

2018-10-04 06:02:11 UTC

That evidence is not required

2018-10-04 06:02:22 UTC

The presumption of guilt

2018-10-04 06:02:35 UTC

That the burden of evidence should fall on the accused

2018-10-04 06:03:49 UTC

All of that is true, but a bunch of liberal Democrats probably don't believe Republican is deserving of a Presumption of Innocence

2018-10-04 06:04:00 UTC

So it's not that they don't believe in it

2018-10-04 06:04:02 UTC

Have you seen that??
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc&feature=youtu.be
@Timcast seen how they trolled Antifa with Hitler Quotes (translated)??

2018-10-04 06:04:30 UTC

It's more that they that don't believe it should be applied equally

2018-10-04 06:05:02 UTC

"The presumption of innocence only applies to us"

2018-10-04 06:05:28 UTC

I'm guessing these people wouldn't say "RONALDO SHOULD GO TO JAIL IMMEDIETLY"

2018-10-04 06:07:07 UTC

@Stefan Payne Of course people can troll Antifa with Hitler quotes

2018-10-04 06:07:16 UTC

I saw that video

2018-10-04 06:07:20 UTC

Because they've never listened to a Hitler speech

2018-10-04 06:07:36 UTC

So they don't even know what their enemies believe or preach

2018-10-04 06:07:43 UTC

Stalin was worse than Hitler. Change my Mind.

2018-10-04 06:07:54 UTC

They barely know what they preach themselves

2018-10-04 06:08:07 UTC

How can I change your mind when what you say is totally correct

2018-10-04 06:08:21 UTC

Thought as much ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-04 06:08:22 UTC

Hitler did a handful of good things

2018-10-04 06:08:31 UTC

I can't think of any good Stalin did

2018-10-04 06:09:04 UTC

Did Stalin give every Russian family an affordable car?

2018-10-04 06:09:10 UTC

Hitler was responsible for VW and the VW beetle was the "Kraft durch Freude Wagen".

2018-10-04 06:09:38 UTC

Did Stalin build roads that would be used for like 70 years after his death?

2018-10-04 06:09:42 UTC

Oh dear, now you can flame every radical lefty driving a VW or an Audi...

2018-10-04 06:09:44 UTC

I for one appreciate Stalin for murdering the competent military leadership soviets had

2018-10-04 06:09:54 UTC

Did Stalin make a SODA?

2018-10-04 06:10:05 UTC

Btw Fanta also comes from Nazi Germany

2018-10-04 06:10:13 UTC

Damn really?

2018-10-04 06:10:23 UTC

Yes but not the one we have right now

2018-10-04 06:10:29 UTC

Fanta is nazi coke

2018-10-04 06:10:43 UTC

The United States wouldn't allow Coca Cola to be made in Germany, so the Coke workers in Germany made Fanta instead.

2018-10-04 06:10:48 UTC

IIRC the Original Fanta was something with Apple Juice.

2018-10-04 06:10:49 UTC

Man nazis had some great taste in soda

2018-10-04 06:11:23 UTC

We should give Fanta to a bunch of lefties and then tell em they're drinking Fizzy Nazi Soda

2018-10-04 06:11:39 UTC

I really hate that you can't talk openly about history and only have to remember the bad things....

2018-10-04 06:11:42 UTC

They have now consumed Nazism

2018-10-04 06:12:14 UTC

Will this be the new *Milk is a white supremacist drink* Meme?

2018-10-04 06:12:17 UTC

Hm, if Ben Shapiro ever drank Fanta??

2018-10-04 06:12:40 UTC

You know the design clothes Hugo Boss?

Hugo Boss was the man who designed the uniforms for the Wehrmacht.

2018-10-04 06:12:51 UTC

*Fanta is the Nazi drink of choice, be sure to get in an extra Aryan flavor!*

2018-10-04 06:13:00 UTC

IIRC even Henry Ford collaborated with the Nazis

2018-10-04 06:13:14 UTC

and some say that WW2 happened because of FDR and his involvement with the Polish

2018-10-04 06:13:19 UTC

Never has evil been so stylish!

2018-10-04 06:13:36 UTC

in short: FDR fucked the Polish really really hard and caused WW2 to start

2018-10-04 06:13:37 UTC

You know the Bosch dishwasher company?

Bosch was involved in the equipment used in the Holocaust.

2018-10-04 06:13:49 UTC

Holy fuck

2018-10-04 06:13:59 UTC

First they wash dishes

2018-10-04 06:14:01 UTC

lol holohoax

2018-10-04 06:14:06 UTC

then they wash away the jews

2018-10-04 06:14:12 UTC

Is it true that there were no deathcamps in Germany???

2018-10-04 06:14:14 UTC

***WASH AWAY SIE JUDEN***

2018-10-04 06:14:19 UTC

and that the Polish did all the killing?

2018-10-04 06:14:35 UTC

concentration camps. not deathcamps

2018-10-04 06:14:57 UTC

The biggest football stadium that is currently in Germany was built by Hitler

2018-10-04 06:16:40 UTC

its always funny to ask people who belive in holohoax give picture of gas chambers.

2018-10-04 06:18:13 UTC

Get rekt Allied Forces tards

2018-10-04 06:20:49 UTC

Some Chemist said somewhere that it woudl be a bit ineffective.

2018-10-04 06:21:10 UTC

But I have to believe in the Holocuast

2018-10-04 06:21:49 UTC

yeah be carefull you might end up in prison if you dont belive in it.

2018-10-04 06:22:11 UTC

Deutschland ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-10-04 06:32:05 UTC

Oh shet

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