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2018-07-16 22:21:53 UTC

you are correct Grenade,

but the military is there to ensure the sovereignty of the state.

The people in it (the soldiers) stay loyal because they believe the state is there to protect the people they love.

They are the fist of society

2018-07-16 22:22:14 UTC

Imagine what you could do if you could dox anyone at will, if you knew what everyone was doing, and had a couple trained assasins and hackers at your disposal.

2018-07-16 22:22:28 UTC

But that's a side issue.

2018-07-16 22:22:57 UTC

and well, its the Central Intelligence Agency,

All they do is gather intel, its not the Central Elimination Agency ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-07-16 22:23:02 UTC

My point is, why do all these individuals work together at all? And literally play house.

2018-07-16 22:23:28 UTC

I just seems so impossible yet here we are

2018-07-16 22:23:33 UTC

strength in unity,

They want to protect their own, so they stand together to fight off those that would be a danger to their families

2018-07-16 22:23:37 UTC

This is also why people go around proclaiming the 2nd amendment as the "ultimate defense against tyranny."

A large, sudden organized force can violently revoke the monopoly on violence of the state.

2018-07-16 22:24:11 UTC

Yes. And in tyrannical states, the military is specifically designed so that members cannot defect easily without exposing themselves and or their families to grave danger.

2018-07-16 22:24:27 UTC

And any incipient rebellion cannot spread easily.

2018-07-16 22:24:33 UTC

as much as i like the 2nd amendment,

Organised force is not gonna happen, too many people, too many aggression, and too many targets,

But no organisation

2018-07-16 22:25:41 UTC

Yeah, the organization element is the big issue. Really, the bigger issue is how easily any potential leadership could be targeted.

But organization springs up quickly given the proper threats. And decentralized organization is actually advantageous in a hypothetical 21st century civil war.

2018-07-16 22:25:55 UTC

Because it becomes harder to eliminate.

2018-07-16 22:26:01 UTC

you get a guerillia war

2018-07-16 22:26:17 UTC

That's what a hypothetical civil war would probably look like, TBH

2018-07-16 22:26:25 UTC

and at that point, you'd better hope the state still has a shred of humanity left

2018-07-16 22:26:31 UTC

Unless something cleaved people apart politically in clean lines beforehand.

2018-07-16 22:27:10 UTC

I think at that point, we can assume the breakdown of order means the destruction of just about everything and extreme bloodshed.

2018-07-16 22:27:26 UTC

nah, an American Civil war will not end in extreme bloodshed

2018-07-16 22:27:26 UTC

The hypothetical civil war scenario only makes sense with very widespread popular backing.

2018-07-16 22:28:07 UTC

Honestly, it's so hard to figure out how a new American civil war would end, it's probably better not to speculate.

The most important factors are the kinds of factors that are hard to predict.

2018-07-16 22:29:23 UTC

It's also the kind of thing that's going to get everyone on here put on a watchlist. Care to change topic?

2018-07-16 22:29:51 UTC

an american civil war will end with a very 1 sided massacre,

considering the people who want to abolish guns, are against

-The Police
-The Military
-The NRA
-The people who like guns
-The State

And the ones who don't wanna abolish guns favor the current ruling party ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-16 22:30:33 UTC

you're not gonna be put on a watchlist for speculating civil war,

We're not plotting to overthrow the government, in fact,

I for one support the current US government ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-16 22:31:55 UTC

Still, no one else is in awe that this has worked and more or less stayed together at all?

2018-07-16 22:32:31 UTC

That's what people *say* but so much is dependent on how it starts.

Did the state cleave cleanly? Are there divisions within states? Is it a set of guerilla actions? Is it more of an open rebellion? Is the rebellion contained to one region? Who is most directly opposing the government? Where is the foreign support?

all these questions can dramatically change the outcome.

One thing that can be said, is that if the US descends into a true civil war, everyone (and I mean everyone, including outside the US) loses. It's an outcome better avoided IMO.

2018-07-16 22:33:14 UTC

I actually am not,

I had to do school projects, where 8 people have to make a product, and none of us know what we're doing, yet the project was completed succesfully


Reality is pretty much the same on a larger scale :D

A bunch of idiots being forced to work together to finish something favorably

2018-07-16 22:33:19 UTC

You would think. But human society has a weird way of finding stable regions and holding together.

Humans were built, in some sense, to create societies of one form or another.

2018-07-16 22:33:50 UTC

If the system wasn't somewhat stable, it would collapse into something stable (barring world-ending or species-ending events)

2018-07-16 22:34:41 UTC

like i said, an american civil war will end very fast and quickly,

Because 1 side is against using guns and against the state
and the other side is for guns and is with the state

The non-gun side will get steamrolled

2018-07-16 22:35:02 UTC

IDK. I think you can get armed pretty quick if given support.

2018-07-16 22:35:12 UTC

not to mention 95% don't even want a civil war

2018-07-16 22:35:21 UTC

^ That's the big thing.

2018-07-16 22:35:39 UTC

It feels like there's alot of pushing for something like that, but everyone knows that everyone loses.

2018-07-16 22:35:45 UTC

It's brinksmanship at it's core.

2018-07-16 22:35:56 UTC

having a gun doesn't make you an expert,

A guy with a machine gun and doesn't even know how to arm the gun (take safety off etc) isn't gonna put up much of a fight against a person that actually knows how to use a pistol

2018-07-16 22:36:24 UTC

also the faction "pushing" for it, is the same faction that said hillary had a 95% chance to win the election

2018-07-16 22:37:40 UTC

I wonder if a second "civil war" would be much like our second "great depression".

2018-07-16 22:38:37 UTC

in name prolly, many people will GET depressed ๐Ÿ˜‰

economy might not feel much because you'll flush california mighty-clean

2018-07-16 22:38:58 UTC

I think Tim Pools' video on the possibility was hinting it would probably be more like the bombings of the 70s.

That's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's different than what most people would consider a "civil war"

2018-07-16 22:39:26 UTC

If that's what you mean, I think I could agree that it would be alot like our second "great depression" in that it's alot of hyperbole.

2018-07-16 22:40:32 UTC

a civil war would require two factions to clash

Otherwise its just terrorism

2018-07-16 22:40:47 UTC

@Dr.Wol you don't understand, 2008 has been called "the second great depression" by some

2018-07-16 22:41:14 UTC

I know, because the economy dropped by what was it? 3%?

Wasn't the 1933 great depression like 20%?

2018-07-16 22:42:21 UTC

To which I'm just like "either the great depression was a lot more laxed than I thought, or we are so fucking pathetically cosy that having to lease a car rather than own it and not being able to buy a new house every year is "the second worse thing in the world"'

2018-07-16 22:42:40 UTC

In history*

2018-07-16 22:42:44 UTC

I think its the fact that media needs to keep people hooked

2018-07-16 22:42:56 UTC

I mean, if Trump is the new Hitler
and America is a tyrannical state now

2018-07-16 22:43:08 UTC

then dafuq kind of lies have my history books been telling me about the German Reich? ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-16 22:43:21 UTC

Ikr

2018-07-16 22:43:57 UTC

Although given how much the EU is controlled by Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4th Reich rise up out of it as it starts to collapse

2018-07-16 22:44:22 UTC

Germany be like "we tried to do it the sneaky buddy buddy way, but you.forced our hand"

2018-07-16 22:44:27 UTC

it popped up like 20 years ago, don't you know?

2018-07-16 22:44:45 UTC

Whatever number they are on.

2018-07-16 22:44:51 UTC

lolwat, the bot blocked me for writing too much in this channel ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-16 22:45:02 UTC

Apparently including the current "Reich" in the US apparently

2018-07-16 22:45:30 UTC

@JDM_WAAAT can we remove slow mode? It's kinda annoying

2018-07-16 22:45:47 UTC

mmmmmm nah

2018-07-16 22:46:42 UTC

but i mean like, the media even tried to sell the world that Merkel, is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected

2018-07-16 22:47:30 UTC

welp my messages are blocked wholey now ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2018-07-16 22:48:37 UTC

why can't i write anymore? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2018-07-16 22:49:35 UTC

The media does 2 things in this world

1) pushes a collective narrative that it likes (this isn't as conspiratorial as it sounds, it's a complex interplay of personal biases and a need to create narratives to keep people hooked)
2) pushes sensational stories that prey on people's emotions to get them to buy papers.

Telling everyone there's oncoming catastrophe is #2, which then becomes #1.

2018-07-16 22:49:48 UTC

okay it seems i can talk again ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-16 22:50:26 UTC

I can only see up the where "is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected"

2018-07-16 22:50:34 UTC

Everything else got cut off.

2018-07-16 22:50:48 UTC

well thats the last thing i wrote

2018-07-16 22:51:03 UTC

Ok. for a second I saw what looked like more.

2018-07-16 22:51:13 UTC

it was the same message resent several times

2018-07-16 22:51:23 UTC

Blame lag.

2018-07-16 22:51:26 UTC

so i deleted the duplicates

2018-07-16 22:51:34 UTC

makes sense.

2018-07-16 22:52:03 UTC

its probably discord just telling me i should go sleep ๐Ÿ˜„ its nearly 1:00 am here

2018-07-16 22:52:20 UTC

Probably should. You must not be in the US.

2018-07-16 22:52:34 UTC

nah, i'm in the United Federation of Europe

2018-07-16 22:52:52 UTC

"United"

2018-07-16 22:53:12 UTC

But anyways, nice talking.

2018-07-16 22:53:23 UTC

hey, the soviet union was "united" ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-16 22:53:36 UTC

yes, was fun, time for some Z's, before MEE6 kicks my ass again

2018-07-18 02:59:26 UTC

I have something radical to say and you might not like it but it's for the greater good โ„ข

2018-07-18 02:59:39 UTC

>anime and manga is the only thing that can bring world peace once and forever

2018-07-18 03:01:00 UTC

Senny, don't forget catgirls

2018-07-18 03:01:47 UTC

Catgirls are an important part of bringing world peace, along with anime and manga

2018-07-18 03:02:52 UTC

Naturally, It's part of it.

2018-07-18 03:03:18 UTC

No, I mean real life catgirls. The next logical step in evolution.

2018-07-18 03:03:35 UTC

It hasn't already?

2018-07-18 03:03:48 UTC

Anime & manga > introduction to catgirls > taking liking to catgirls > funding engineering of catgirls

2018-07-18 03:03:54 UTC

see ?

2018-07-18 03:04:04 UTC

:/

2018-07-18 03:04:15 UTC

Not fast enough

2018-07-18 03:06:21 UTC

idk man i jsut feel a furry would infiltrate that shit and turn up the cat dial on the catgirl machine

2018-07-18 03:07:31 UTC

why not have both ? let the furries have their catoids so they either don't revolt and cause wars or fiddle with our catgirls

2018-07-18 03:14:24 UTC

lol i guessssssssss?

2018-07-18 03:14:43 UTC

i mean if we have the technology why not?

2018-07-18 03:15:27 UTC

but...

2018-07-18 03:15:33 UTC

there is always the better option..

2018-07-18 03:15:44 UTC

getting rid of the furries

2018-07-18 03:16:00 UTC

lol a furry cleansing

2018-07-18 03:16:03 UTC

GREATER GOOD โ„ข

2018-07-18 03:16:22 UTC

i wonder if electroshock therapy would get rid of the furry impulse

2018-07-18 03:17:16 UTC

idk.. sometimes I've feeling furries will be the center of the next human rights issues

2018-07-18 03:17:25 UTC

Eh, let the furries go full furry. The ones who can procreate with each other will just create more animals.

2018-07-18 03:17:30 UTC

you could make argument they have some sort of disphoria or something

2018-07-18 03:17:31 UTC

lol the otherkin

2018-07-18 03:17:41 UTC

They'll wipe themselves from the gene pool

2018-07-18 03:18:44 UTC

lol idk i feel like furries are already on their way to darwin awarding themselves out of the gene pool somehow

2018-07-18 03:19:21 UTC

Mmm, so long as they're still human under their costumes they're a long way from doing that

2018-07-18 03:19:57 UTC

Although I did find Steven Crowder's interview with that one furry to be interesting

2018-07-18 03:20:05 UTC

*clears throat*
Furries aren't a threat. They existed since the cave man and I'll let it to your imagination how that came to be.
The gene pool is quite safe although some traces of this degeneracy remain in our genes today.

2018-07-18 03:20:44 UTC

Trust me, I'm Senny the notevenpseudo-science guy

2018-07-18 03:20:50 UTC

lol

2018-07-18 03:21:22 UTC

Though on average, furries do tend to be better artists, imo. Maybe it's because their style is closer to anime than most.

2018-07-18 03:28:22 UTC

yuck

2018-07-18 03:37:46 UTC

i meme about furries but don't actually mind them

2018-07-18 03:37:58 UTC

but i really do hate their art

2018-07-18 03:41:17 UTC

Maybe it's just a subset of furry artists that I've found

2018-07-18 03:41:18 UTC

i dont know any furries

2018-07-18 03:41:24 UTC

id be keen to have a convo with one

2018-07-18 03:41:48 UTC

it's the cycle of life... normies shit on weebs, weebs shit on furries , furries shit on... ?? eh.. probably no one.. they are at the bottom of degeneracies

2018-07-18 03:51:59 UTC

well they shit on people who like to be shit on, and those people shit on eachother 2 girls one cup style

2018-07-18 04:03:50 UTC

Which is wierd, I had no issue with anthros growing up. Robin hood cartoon was awesome, swat catz, chip and dale, all were good.

2018-07-18 04:04:02 UTC

furries shit on the grass because they want to be dogs

2018-07-18 04:04:15 UTC

Now cant help but see furries jerking off to kids cartoons sometimes.

2018-07-18 04:04:32 UTC

lol bronies for the LOSE

2018-07-18 04:04:55 UTC

BRONIES GOOD LORD

2018-07-18 04:05:03 UTC

i just can't even

2018-07-18 04:05:16 UTC

Like mlp isnt a bad cartoon, for kids. But people who fantasize over shagging horses are wierd, granted not all bronies are like that.

2018-07-18 04:05:23 UTC

^

2018-07-18 04:06:04 UTC

But well, complaining about r34 is like pissing in the ocean of piss.

2018-07-18 04:06:11 UTC

yeah i mean id much prefer hot chicks that cosplay as the ponies but like human versions lol

2018-07-18 04:06:20 UTC

LOL amen brother

2018-07-18 04:06:28 UTC

Funny story

2018-07-18 04:06:46 UTC

Hitedaki somethin. Guy who directed bayonneta.

2018-07-18 04:06:56 UTC

Either that or the lady who created the character

2018-07-18 04:07:17 UTC

He or she saw the porn people drew of bayonneta

2018-07-18 04:07:56 UTC

And told them, hey the porns great, but anyrhing where shes getting dominated feels wierd since its not part of her character

2018-07-18 04:08:25 UTC

LOL

2018-07-18 04:08:29 UTC

Apparently after that, there was a noticable change in the doujin community

2018-07-18 04:08:37 UTC

hahaha thats pretty hilarious actually

2018-07-18 04:08:41 UTC

And tjey started only drawing her as the dominant one

2018-07-18 04:09:00 UTC

quite respectful and honest to source material i guess

2018-07-18 04:09:04 UTC

I actually watched few episodes because this one girls was actually brony of sorts ? It was good for kiddie show but it's not just about shagging horses..there is some kind of cultism about the show I can't understand.. I can understand shaggins of.. basically anything. Rule 34 for life brah, be my guest

2018-07-18 04:09:10 UTC

Guy who created nier also asked his fans to send him lewds of the game

2018-07-18 04:09:37 UTC

to be fair my favorite name for an artist belongs to a pony porn artist

2018-07-18 04:09:49 UTC

If you wanted the opposite, bioshock inf creator complained bout the porn.

2018-07-18 04:10:06 UTC

And people spammed him with the porn of her.

2018-07-18 04:10:21 UTC

shit I be artist there is no bigger compliment than people wanting to shag my characters tbh

2018-07-18 04:10:30 UTC

lmao yeah you never complain about porn

2018-07-18 04:10:31 UTC

LOOOOL

2018-07-18 04:10:40 UTC

or all porn artists simultaneously become shadman

2018-07-18 04:10:43 UTC

Only japs think that way for some reason.

2018-07-18 04:10:50 UTC

HAHAH fucking shadman

2018-07-18 04:10:56 UTC

heh

2018-07-18 04:11:03 UTC

>shadman

2018-07-18 04:11:20 UTC

Then again you get feminists who complain that a char is designed for the male gaze

2018-07-18 04:11:45 UTC

And deliberately design chars to be less attractive

2018-07-18 04:12:26 UTC

lol yeah that stuff is dumb

2018-07-18 04:12:33 UTC

Iremember seeing a variation that was a shaky gif with >minus8 on it

2018-07-18 04:12:34 UTC

sex sells

2018-07-18 04:12:45 UTC

yeah..sex negative feminist aren't much different from hardcore christians to me
i don't care about the opinions of either

2018-07-18 04:13:12 UTC

its liek yo either sex is liberating or oppressive you cant have it both ways

2018-07-18 04:13:14 UTC

At least hc christians have ideas of traditional beauty

2018-07-18 04:13:39 UTC

like this group that is on twitter i saw the other day.. against any kind of porn and i though those pesky christians again but no.. they feminists

2018-07-18 04:13:47 UTC

Nothing beautiful bout flab, piercings, prmiscuouscity, or rainbow hair

2018-07-18 04:14:08 UTC

they were bitching about my hentai smh

2018-07-18 04:14:13 UTC

i mean i get how that hsiz can be a turn on

2018-07-18 04:14:16 UTC

got ratioed and deleted the tweet lmao

2018-07-18 04:14:51 UTC

like personally i can like peircings tats n dyed hair

2018-07-18 04:15:05 UTC

if its done well

2018-07-18 04:15:15 UTC

But if the thing is fat, its uglier

2018-07-18 04:15:56 UTC

well..the rule of thumb is that fat is just not attractive..no matter how loud ya screeching

2018-07-18 04:15:57 UTC

Like a big. I dont like piercings of any kind.

2018-07-18 04:16:09 UTC

i mean excessive amount of fat

2018-07-18 04:16:15 UTC

i love me some thicc as the next guy

2018-07-18 04:16:15 UTC

Oh boy you havent seen the fat enablers out there

2018-07-18 04:16:26 UTC

Some people get off to that

2018-07-18 04:16:37 UTC

And that applies to both genders

2018-07-18 04:16:44 UTC

it's not a thing here..neither fat positivity or fat fetishist as far as i can see

2018-07-18 04:16:59 UTC

Boogie, that guy dated a feeder before. And he says it contributed to his eating habits

2018-07-18 04:17:08 UTC

feeder ?

2018-07-18 04:17:27 UTC

Someone who gets off to the idea of forcing someone to eat, alot

2018-07-18 04:17:36 UTC

yeah and actually does feed them food

2018-07-18 04:17:40 UTC

Imagine the spanish hospitality.

2018-07-18 04:17:59 UTC

But the mom has a fetish for seeing you eat alot.

2018-07-18 04:18:10 UTC

*speechless*

2018-07-18 04:18:29 UTC

lol yeah its a real thing. their fettish is like next level BBW

2018-07-18 04:18:49 UTC

its like both a turn on for them to see you eat and also for you to gain weight

2018-07-18 04:18:50 UTC

Sometimes its not a fetish, just someone wanting to make their partner happy

2018-07-18 04:19:02 UTC

It's like that scene in Se7en, but Kevin Spacey is getting off on it

2018-07-18 04:19:05 UTC

shiit, I should have just found some feeder instead losing 40 pounds the last 5 months

2018-07-18 04:19:11 UTC

smh

2018-07-18 04:19:15 UTC

If the partner wans another chockolate cake, shes getting one

2018-07-18 04:19:36 UTC

idk if they classify as a feeder at that point

2018-07-18 04:19:57 UTC

one could argue they get off slowly killing a person ?

2018-07-18 04:20:04 UTC

SUE THEM

2018-07-18 04:20:12 UTC

MUUURICAAA
FUCK YEAH

2018-07-18 04:20:13 UTC

That's what that scene was actually

2018-07-18 04:20:23 UTC

i have not seen the movie

2018-07-18 04:20:45 UTC

It's good, but fucked up

2018-07-18 04:28:10 UTC

So its a stange situation

2018-07-18 04:28:30 UTC

But well, theres worse ones out there

2018-07-18 07:47:29 UTC

Killer queeen

2018-07-18 07:49:25 UTC

Dropping by with the laser beeems

2018-07-18 07:49:33 UTC

Barricade and close your mind

2018-07-18 13:47:10 UTC

โค

2018-07-18 13:47:27 UTC

love that tune. good example of a nice short n sweet guitar solo lol

2018-07-18 14:13:34 UTC

Misheard lyrics time? :^)

2018-07-18 14:14:35 UTC

Also Queen II is best Queen, debate me

2018-07-18 14:19:58 UTC

ogre battle is one of my dads favourite queen tunes

2018-07-18 15:03:41 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-07-18 15:04:05 UTC

It's a good-ass song. So is March of the Black Queen

2018-07-18 15:04:21 UTC

In fact, both are good enough to have games named after them

2018-07-18 15:04:29 UTC

hahah fucking right dude

2018-07-18 15:12:12 UTC
2018-07-18 15:12:25 UTC

I love killer queen so much

2018-07-18 15:12:48 UTC

But my favorite queen song is either March of the black queen or The show must go on

2018-07-18 15:13:13 UTC

I'm also a huge fan of Stone cold crazy

2018-07-18 15:16:35 UTC

"Don't Stop Me Now" is the best Queen song

2018-07-18 15:16:56 UTC

Don't stop me now is probably my favourite queen pop song

2018-07-18 15:17:04 UTC

It's so happy

2018-07-18 15:17:30 UTC

I love bicycle race

2018-07-18 15:20:54 UTC

I need to accumulate more Queen. Last purchase was Sublime and Soundgarden, so Queen and Judas Priest should go next

2018-07-18 15:21:35 UTC

You could actually pay money

2018-07-18 15:21:44 UTC

Or you can do what I did

2018-07-18 15:21:52 UTC

anyone keeping up with the current russia investigation, seems like they want to look at the NRA

2018-07-18 15:22:08 UTC

I have no idea man

2018-07-18 15:22:10 UTC

does anyone else think they sounds like a witch hunt now?

2018-07-18 15:27:00 UTC

I like having physical media

2018-07-18 15:31:21 UTC

what's your take on the journalists circle jerking each other and make rumors into facts

2018-07-18 15:31:32 UTC

because i am noticing they are playing deliberate telephone right now

2018-07-18 15:42:08 UTC

It's easier to play telephone than to put hours of research and find conflicting information

2018-07-18 15:42:52 UTC

And, not portraying the angle the people you work for want, will result in you getting fired or losing any chance of promotion

2018-07-18 16:15:44 UTC

I love The Show Must Go On.

2018-07-18 16:16:02 UTC

Under Pressure, too.

2018-07-18 16:16:24 UTC

Awwww I love under pressure

2018-07-18 16:17:41 UTC

the amount of royalties they must get from ice ice baby lol

2018-07-18 16:17:52 UTC

The Michael Jackson/Freddy mercury song was great too

2018-07-18 16:18:07 UTC

millions upon millions of dolla bills

2018-07-18 16:20:07 UTC

I love this song so much https://youtu.be/Oj6wgyPbsYA

2018-07-18 16:20:23 UTC

Michael Jackson and Freddy's voices work so well together

2018-07-18 16:25:32 UTC

lol apparantly he wasnt comfortable with michales pet llamma in the studio LOL

2018-07-18 16:25:39 UTC

and yeah thats fucking good

2018-07-18 16:26:27 UTC

i think its pretty well known now that michael was chemically castrated at a young age

2018-07-18 16:26:41 UTC

hes essentially a modern castrato

2018-07-18 16:27:51 UTC

Any love for Let Us Cling Together/Teo Torriatte?

2018-07-18 16:36:00 UTC

Good to see this channel is very on topic

2018-07-18 16:37:41 UTC

Well if someone would take the opposing position in the Queen debate things would get rolling

2018-07-18 17:17:48 UTC

Literally the only argument I see against queen is people whining about them being overrated

2018-07-18 17:19:16 UTC

Oh I specifically meant Queen II being best

2018-07-18 17:19:24 UTC

*channels inner Molyneaux*

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