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you are correct Grenade,
but the military is there to ensure the sovereignty of the state.
The people in it (the soldiers) stay loyal because they believe the state is there to protect the people they love.
They are the fist of society
Imagine what you could do if you could dox anyone at will, if you knew what everyone was doing, and had a couple trained assasins and hackers at your disposal.
But that's a side issue.
and well, its the Central Intelligence Agency,
All they do is gather intel, its not the Central Elimination Agency ๐
My point is, why do all these individuals work together at all? And literally play house.
I just seems so impossible yet here we are
strength in unity,
They want to protect their own, so they stand together to fight off those that would be a danger to their families
This is also why people go around proclaiming the 2nd amendment as the "ultimate defense against tyranny."
A large, sudden organized force can violently revoke the monopoly on violence of the state.
Yes. And in tyrannical states, the military is specifically designed so that members cannot defect easily without exposing themselves and or their families to grave danger.
And any incipient rebellion cannot spread easily.
as much as i like the 2nd amendment,
Organised force is not gonna happen, too many people, too many aggression, and too many targets,
But no organisation
Yeah, the organization element is the big issue. Really, the bigger issue is how easily any potential leadership could be targeted.
But organization springs up quickly given the proper threats. And decentralized organization is actually advantageous in a hypothetical 21st century civil war.
Because it becomes harder to eliminate.
you get a guerillia war
That's what a hypothetical civil war would probably look like, TBH
and at that point, you'd better hope the state still has a shred of humanity left
Unless something cleaved people apart politically in clean lines beforehand.
I think at that point, we can assume the breakdown of order means the destruction of just about everything and extreme bloodshed.
nah, an American Civil war will not end in extreme bloodshed
The hypothetical civil war scenario only makes sense with very widespread popular backing.
Honestly, it's so hard to figure out how a new American civil war would end, it's probably better not to speculate.
The most important factors are the kinds of factors that are hard to predict.
It's also the kind of thing that's going to get everyone on here put on a watchlist. Care to change topic?
an american civil war will end with a very 1 sided massacre,
considering the people who want to abolish guns, are against
-The Police
-The Military
-The NRA
-The people who like guns
-The State
And the ones who don't wanna abolish guns favor the current ruling party ๐
you're not gonna be put on a watchlist for speculating civil war,
We're not plotting to overthrow the government, in fact,
I for one support the current US government ๐
Still, no one else is in awe that this has worked and more or less stayed together at all?
That's what people *say* but so much is dependent on how it starts.
Did the state cleave cleanly? Are there divisions within states? Is it a set of guerilla actions? Is it more of an open rebellion? Is the rebellion contained to one region? Who is most directly opposing the government? Where is the foreign support?
all these questions can dramatically change the outcome.
One thing that can be said, is that if the US descends into a true civil war, everyone (and I mean everyone, including outside the US) loses. It's an outcome better avoided IMO.
I actually am not,
I had to do school projects, where 8 people have to make a product, and none of us know what we're doing, yet the project was completed succesfully
Reality is pretty much the same on a larger scale :D
A bunch of idiots being forced to work together to finish something favorably
You would think. But human society has a weird way of finding stable regions and holding together.
Humans were built, in some sense, to create societies of one form or another.
If the system wasn't somewhat stable, it would collapse into something stable (barring world-ending or species-ending events)
like i said, an american civil war will end very fast and quickly,
Because 1 side is against using guns and against the state
and the other side is for guns and is with the state
The non-gun side will get steamrolled
IDK. I think you can get armed pretty quick if given support.
not to mention 95% don't even want a civil war
^ That's the big thing.
It feels like there's alot of pushing for something like that, but everyone knows that everyone loses.
It's brinksmanship at it's core.
having a gun doesn't make you an expert,
A guy with a machine gun and doesn't even know how to arm the gun (take safety off etc) isn't gonna put up much of a fight against a person that actually knows how to use a pistol
also the faction "pushing" for it, is the same faction that said hillary had a 95% chance to win the election
I wonder if a second "civil war" would be much like our second "great depression".
in name prolly, many people will GET depressed ๐
economy might not feel much because you'll flush california mighty-clean
I think Tim Pools' video on the possibility was hinting it would probably be more like the bombings of the 70s.
That's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's different than what most people would consider a "civil war"
If that's what you mean, I think I could agree that it would be alot like our second "great depression" in that it's alot of hyperbole.
a civil war would require two factions to clash
Otherwise its just terrorism
@Dr.Wol you don't understand, 2008 has been called "the second great depression" by some
I know, because the economy dropped by what was it? 3%?
Wasn't the 1933 great depression like 20%?
To which I'm just like "either the great depression was a lot more laxed than I thought, or we are so fucking pathetically cosy that having to lease a car rather than own it and not being able to buy a new house every year is "the second worse thing in the world"'
In history*
I think its the fact that media needs to keep people hooked
I mean, if Trump is the new Hitler
and America is a tyrannical state now
then dafuq kind of lies have my history books been telling me about the German Reich? ๐
Ikr
Although given how much the EU is controlled by Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4th Reich rise up out of it as it starts to collapse
Germany be like "we tried to do it the sneaky buddy buddy way, but you.forced our hand"
it popped up like 20 years ago, don't you know?
Whatever number they are on.
lolwat, the bot blocked me for writing too much in this channel ๐
Apparently including the current "Reich" in the US apparently
@JDM_WAAAT can we remove slow mode? It's kinda annoying
mmmmmm nah
but i mean like, the media even tried to sell the world that Merkel, is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected
welp my messages are blocked wholey now ๐ฎ
why can't i write anymore? ๐ฎ
The media does 2 things in this world
1) pushes a collective narrative that it likes (this isn't as conspiratorial as it sounds, it's a complex interplay of personal biases and a need to create narratives to keep people hooked)
2) pushes sensational stories that prey on people's emotions to get them to buy papers.
Telling everyone there's oncoming catastrophe is #2, which then becomes #1.
okay it seems i can talk again ๐
I can only see up the where "is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected"
Everything else got cut off.
well thats the last thing i wrote
Ok. for a second I saw what looked like more.
it was the same message resent several times
Blame lag.
so i deleted the duplicates
makes sense.
its probably discord just telling me i should go sleep ๐ its nearly 1:00 am here
Probably should. You must not be in the US.
nah, i'm in the United Federation of Europe
"United"
But anyways, nice talking.
hey, the soviet union was "united" ๐
yes, was fun, time for some Z's, before MEE6 kicks my ass again
I have something radical to say and you might not like it but it's for the greater good โข
>anime and manga is the only thing that can bring world peace once and forever
Senny, don't forget catgirls
Catgirls are an important part of bringing world peace, along with anime and manga
Naturally, It's part of it.
No, I mean real life catgirls. The next logical step in evolution.
It hasn't already?
Anime & manga > introduction to catgirls > taking liking to catgirls > funding engineering of catgirls
see ?
:/
Not fast enough
idk man i jsut feel a furry would infiltrate that shit and turn up the cat dial on the catgirl machine
why not have both ? let the furries have their catoids so they either don't revolt and cause wars or fiddle with our catgirls
lol i guessssssssss?
i mean if we have the technology why not?
but...
there is always the better option..
getting rid of the furries
lol a furry cleansing
GREATER GOOD โข
i wonder if electroshock therapy would get rid of the furry impulse
idk.. sometimes I've feeling furries will be the center of the next human rights issues
Eh, let the furries go full furry. The ones who can procreate with each other will just create more animals.
you could make argument they have some sort of disphoria or something
lol the otherkin
They'll wipe themselves from the gene pool
lol idk i feel like furries are already on their way to darwin awarding themselves out of the gene pool somehow
Mmm, so long as they're still human under their costumes they're a long way from doing that
Although I did find Steven Crowder's interview with that one furry to be interesting
*clears throat*
Furries aren't a threat. They existed since the cave man and I'll let it to your imagination how that came to be.
The gene pool is quite safe although some traces of this degeneracy remain in our genes today.
Trust me, I'm Senny the notevenpseudo-science guy
lol
Though on average, furries do tend to be better artists, imo. Maybe it's because their style is closer to anime than most.
yuck
i meme about furries but don't actually mind them
but i really do hate their art
Maybe it's just a subset of furry artists that I've found
i dont know any furries
id be keen to have a convo with one
it's the cycle of life... normies shit on weebs, weebs shit on furries , furries shit on... ?? eh.. probably no one.. they are at the bottom of degeneracies
well they shit on people who like to be shit on, and those people shit on eachother 2 girls one cup style
Which is wierd, I had no issue with anthros growing up. Robin hood cartoon was awesome, swat catz, chip and dale, all were good.
furries shit on the grass because they want to be dogs
Now cant help but see furries jerking off to kids cartoons sometimes.
lol bronies for the LOSE
BRONIES GOOD LORD
i just can't even
Like mlp isnt a bad cartoon, for kids. But people who fantasize over shagging horses are wierd, granted not all bronies are like that.
^
But well, complaining about r34 is like pissing in the ocean of piss.
yeah i mean id much prefer hot chicks that cosplay as the ponies but like human versions lol
LOL amen brother
Funny story
Hitedaki somethin. Guy who directed bayonneta.
Either that or the lady who created the character
He or she saw the porn people drew of bayonneta
And told them, hey the porns great, but anyrhing where shes getting dominated feels wierd since its not part of her character
LOL
Apparently after that, there was a noticable change in the doujin community
hahaha thats pretty hilarious actually
And tjey started only drawing her as the dominant one
quite respectful and honest to source material i guess
I actually watched few episodes because this one girls was actually brony of sorts ? It was good for kiddie show but it's not just about shagging horses..there is some kind of cultism about the show I can't understand.. I can understand shaggins of.. basically anything. Rule 34 for life brah, be my guest
Guy who created nier also asked his fans to send him lewds of the game
to be fair my favorite name for an artist belongs to a pony porn artist
If you wanted the opposite, bioshock inf creator complained bout the porn.
And people spammed him with the porn of her.
shit I be artist there is no bigger compliment than people wanting to shag my characters tbh
lmao yeah you never complain about porn
LOOOOL
or all porn artists simultaneously become shadman
Only japs think that way for some reason.
HAHAH fucking shadman
heh
>shadman
Then again you get feminists who complain that a char is designed for the male gaze
And deliberately design chars to be less attractive
lol yeah that stuff is dumb
Iremember seeing a variation that was a shaky gif with >minus8 on it
sex sells
yeah..sex negative feminist aren't much different from hardcore christians to me
i don't care about the opinions of either
its liek yo either sex is liberating or oppressive you cant have it both ways
At least hc christians have ideas of traditional beauty
like this group that is on twitter i saw the other day.. against any kind of porn and i though those pesky christians again but no.. they feminists
Nothing beautiful bout flab, piercings, prmiscuouscity, or rainbow hair
they were bitching about my hentai smh
i mean i get how that hsiz can be a turn on
got ratioed and deleted the tweet lmao
like personally i can like peircings tats n dyed hair
if its done well
But if the thing is fat, its uglier
well..the rule of thumb is that fat is just not attractive..no matter how loud ya screeching
Like a big. I dont like piercings of any kind.
i mean excessive amount of fat
i love me some thicc as the next guy
Oh boy you havent seen the fat enablers out there
Some people get off to that
And that applies to both genders
it's not a thing here..neither fat positivity or fat fetishist as far as i can see
Boogie, that guy dated a feeder before. And he says it contributed to his eating habits
feeder ?
Someone who gets off to the idea of forcing someone to eat, alot
yeah and actually does feed them food
Imagine the spanish hospitality.
But the mom has a fetish for seeing you eat alot.
*speechless*
lol yeah its a real thing. their fettish is like next level BBW
its like both a turn on for them to see you eat and also for you to gain weight
Sometimes its not a fetish, just someone wanting to make their partner happy
It's like that scene in Se7en, but Kevin Spacey is getting off on it
shiit, I should have just found some feeder instead losing 40 pounds the last 5 months
smh
If the partner wans another chockolate cake, shes getting one
idk if they classify as a feeder at that point
one could argue they get off slowly killing a person ?
SUE THEM
MUUURICAAA
FUCK YEAH
That's what that scene was actually
i have not seen the movie
It's good, but fucked up
So its a stange situation
But well, theres worse ones out there
Killer queeen
Dropping by with the laser beeems
Barricade and close your mind
โค
love that tune. good example of a nice short n sweet guitar solo lol
Misheard lyrics time? :^)
Also Queen II is best Queen, debate me
ogre battle is one of my dads favourite queen tunes
๐
It's a good-ass song. So is March of the Black Queen
In fact, both are good enough to have games named after them
hahah fucking right dude
@Beemann yea
I love killer queen so much
But my favorite queen song is either March of the black queen or The show must go on
I'm also a huge fan of Stone cold crazy
"Don't Stop Me Now" is the best Queen song
Don't stop me now is probably my favourite queen pop song
It's so happy
I love bicycle race
I need to accumulate more Queen. Last purchase was Sublime and Soundgarden, so Queen and Judas Priest should go next
You could actually pay money
Or you can do what I did
anyone keeping up with the current russia investigation, seems like they want to look at the NRA
I have no idea man
does anyone else think they sounds like a witch hunt now?
I like having physical media
what's your take on the journalists circle jerking each other and make rumors into facts
because i am noticing they are playing deliberate telephone right now
It's easier to play telephone than to put hours of research and find conflicting information
And, not portraying the angle the people you work for want, will result in you getting fired or losing any chance of promotion
I love The Show Must Go On.
Under Pressure, too.
Awwww I love under pressure
the amount of royalties they must get from ice ice baby lol
The Michael Jackson/Freddy mercury song was great too
millions upon millions of dolla bills
I love this song so much https://youtu.be/Oj6wgyPbsYA
Michael Jackson and Freddy's voices work so well together
lol apparantly he wasnt comfortable with michales pet llamma in the studio LOL
and yeah thats fucking good
i think its pretty well known now that michael was chemically castrated at a young age
hes essentially a modern castrato
Any love for Let Us Cling Together/Teo Torriatte?
Good to see this channel is very on topic
Well if someone would take the opposing position in the Queen debate things would get rolling
Literally the only argument I see against queen is people whining about them being overrated
Oh I specifically meant Queen II being best
*channels inner Molyneaux*
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