on a similar note, i know the left has been the force behind 'legalize it' roughly but i cant wait for that to follow suit and become racist 'somehow' and need to be banned

What about channels that focus on health issues? They may not be sponsored by CBD companies, but surely there is discussion of that product. I just watched a video of someone talking about her Ayahuasca experience.

They should not be able to retroactively strike a channel. It's like if you get caught for a crime the government is not allowed to change the law to make the punishment for that crime harder you screw you over. YT is a mess.

there is zero consistency when it comes to this kind of stuff

if enough people REEEEEE

strike

in the current state, neutrality isnt a reliable spot

you have to bend over backwards to be safe

CBD from hemp is legal in all states but not federally I guess

im not sure tho

CBD from marijuana is still illegal

oh wow, maybe hemp cbd is federally legal and these are bogus take downs

Tommy Robinson has been arrested

Pretty sure you were targeted given the video in question

For what?

Here's the stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKJCtNsjXB0

Also that's nothing new

Everything upto the arrest is on that stream

Ok will watch later

He was taken for "Breach of peace"

Tommy was filming the grooming gang pedophiles.

Hmm

Holy shit, if that's true, then that's fucking disgusting. The Tommy Robison thing.

wait

i got it

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/02/cannabis-extracts-schedule-i-classification/

the latest opinion May 9

CBD from hemp is still schedule 1

this is likely why everyone started getting uplled

pulled

might see some news about macron today

hes really going to town on trump

Yeah TR getting arrested for filming is wrong.

I think the argument on TR was that hes out on bail, on the basis that he doesnt try to influence any other ongoing cases...

and hes literally live streaming outside the court talking about the case... so .. I can understand there viewpoint... still doesnt make it right I know...

@Timcast Is this related to the mass takedowns to drug related videos that was going on a while back?

probably

the only reason that vido got flagged was because people attacked it

the video couldnt be caught by a bot becuase its not about cbd

just a 30 second spot in the beginning

but ya know im glad it did

cuz i deleted any video that might violate the tos

just to be clear, have you been told thats why... or is this a best guess situation?

Well, the reason why is spam flagged videos

It was just a mass spam flag attack.

But he's speculating about why the strike will be upheld.

so stupid when its in their interests to let people know why... it just makes it harder to think there isnt some nefarious reasoning behind everything

theyre just going to foster more conspiracy theories

It's their platform. I'm sure they're aware that clarity is not their strong suit

seems like it would be an easy fix - a youtube guy comes along, strikes channel or vid or whatever, little required field appears - "why are you taking these actions" this gets added to the email sent to the youtube creator

(obviously this is only on manual reviewings)

I don't think the strike was manually reviewed yet

wasnt the strike upheld?

oh "will be upheld" .. sorry I misread

@Timcast If you get conformation that it was the hippy oil are you going to edit out the ad and re-upload the vids. The one with Dankula should not be kept hidden?

@Timcast was the Musk video affected?

Here's the tommy robinson arrest stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC_33CJZ7W8&t=1s

he was told explicitly if he does this kinda stuff his suspended sentence will be over, weird that he would do it

define "this kinda stuff"

I mean, he's no better or worse than any on the ground journalist in this video

well he did this exact thing outside another courthouse and was told

live stream it? ask questions?

sorry, agree with him or not, I don't believe you should be arrested for it

me neither.. just saying thats why it happened

oh yeah, sounded like you had a different opinion on it

well, honestly, glad he did do it

might count dankula him

if they press for it

even though he does have a few more enemies I bet

nah anyone I speak to here its like "oh that racist bloke"

they dont actually know anything about him or have aever witnessed him being racist... but thats the narrative they have

bascially

I mean, he's talking about grooming gangs, and these people are actually in court receiving verdicts

but he's racist?

he might be, but still

I do think he has a bias on anything islam.. but I think thats probably because of his past encounters with racism

it's sick to think that there's basically no outrage

yeah I agree

he probably does and he shouldn't have spread the fake news in Tim's video

and he shoulda let that one dude speak at the Free Speech event

buuuuut that doesn't necessarily make him wrong, perhaps an asshole

thats my only issue with him :P

He's doing acceptable things (afaik)
He doesn't seem like he's a bad person, but he's just so unlikable to me 😛

god dammit

does anyone know

if the livestream channel is happening or not

Think Tim is using his second channel for it.

ok

oh ok.. Im just at the point in the livestream where he specifically said go harrass the guy on trial that was in the stream :/

"Everyone Please subscribe to http://youtube.com/timcastnews as my channel has been falsely given a strike. I cant livestream here now but I can on my second channel." From the community section.

"go to his house, harass him, harass his family"

why the fuck did his channel get a strike

holy shit youtube is so ass

they arrested Tim ;P https://twitter.com/crypto/status/1000021261546901505?s=20

makes me wonder.. what ever happened to the 127000 bitcoin the FBI took in the silkroad raid?

used to pay for hillary's foreign bills

seizing bitcoin

🤔

you know that typical drug picture after a big bust

do they just have a thumb drive on the table for virtual money?

i dunno, they had a fallout computer for that DNC hack

it must be some government job to set the table

that video before didnt show the arrest

the TR arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwitkPBsHdo

correct me if i am wrong, but at the start he said there is 3 parts to this trial. 3 groups because there are so many people on trail. Because the results could, i assume, make people bias in the following trails, you cannot report on the verdicts (according to tommy in the other video). Watching this here, he is about to report the results of this trail. he said he knows its over, and that he is just waiting for the verdicts. If the same thing that covers the first trail covers the second, then technically they are not wrong that he is breaking the law, or about to attempt to. Still seems ridiculous, but if the ruling over the first part of the trail applies to all parts of the trail, then he KNEW this was probably coming, and then their claim he was breaching the peace wouldn't be wrong. Because he would be trying to start shit, and cause problems.

I dont think he will survive the 13months he will now be in prison for

now, i don't know the UK, but in the US we do trail by jury and the jury is supposed to be unbais. Should they be forced to split up a trial into several parts because of the number of people, then reporting on the results before all people have their trail, could turn any and all jury's bias, which would end up denying peoples rights to a fair trail, and result, most likely, in everyone else left to be tried getting off on a mistrial

when I was on jury duty for isleworth court we were told we were not allowed to view any social media or anything or talk about it outisde the court

exactly

yeah it would be on the onus of the jury, not the press

imo

well, this may be why they don't want the press reporting the results until the end of the trail

that wouldn't stand here

freedom of the press would apply here I would think

since part of the trail isn't happening until September, you'd basically need to jail the jury if the media was allowed to report on it

"you have been chosen for jury duty, but because your part of the trail doesn't happen until september, and the media can report the results, we need to lock you away so noone can talk to you"

i think there is a slight difference between not being allowed to report it ever, and needing to wait until all results are in

I don't think there is

there's no responsibility, really, for the press NOT to report on it as soon as it knows. at least here in the US

there is no NDA, no security clearance

etc

so, you propose the media can report on the findings, then, because you can't keep a jury that isolated for a year, let off everyone in the September trail because there is no unbiased jury?

that would be speech suppression by the goverment.. basically

or do we detain the jury all year

no, i would not fucking have a trial so far out if the information leaking could affect the outcome

well true

but some fuckwad made that choice (or maybe they are too busy putting people on trail for hate speech to do it any sooner), so now what?

This is basically victim blaming

btw

i....wut

oh you're the victim of knowledge and you shared it, you goto jail

because we can't be sensible in our court proceedings

not victim of knowledge, but you get what I'm saying

are you a leftist?

anyway, I think it's BS in either case

"you did an action, but you are the victim"

haha no

>you shared it

that is an action

it would be victim blaming if you jailed the jury for hearing it

an action I don't deem illegal...

sharing information, in this case, isn't illegal..

i.e. reporting on the trial, possbily the verdict.. that wouldn't be illegal here, regardless

hence why the jury is usually instructed to not watch the media

so you can't arrest media for that, and TR is media in this case.. so our first amendment should protect what he was doing

well in this case, not watch the media (for a year), talk to family (for a year), talk to colleagues (for a year). Since we are here, because some fuckwad (the person who should really be sent to jail) split this up across a year. What are the options?

also, this is in the UK

not supressing the media is not an option

again I know this

I'm talking about what would happen here and why I think it's wrong

i agree, this shit really wouldn't fly here

and also, that happens all the time in jury trials, jury sequesters

https://www.bustle.com/articles/149088-how-long-was-the-oj-simpson-jury-sequestered-this-trial-took-its-time

265 days for the OJ trial.

so there's your answer of what happens here

which one, his first or second?

first

the murder trial

I shouldn't say 265 days is the norm, but it has happened, and that's how it was dealt with, rightly or wrongly

What happens if someone on a jury breaks that? they kicked off the jury

?

yup

can be

or a mistrial

there was probably some legalities too if I had to imagine.. poor jurors

anyway, here, it would be jury sequester, not infringing on press rights...

they dont really sequester much anymore - its incredibly expensive.. they have to pay each juror not to mention all the people hired...

regardless of why the gag order was placed, it was placed (and gag orders happen here too)

there were rooms at the courthouse for that.. but appaarently its very rare

yeah it's rare

my case only lasted 3 days

each day it was like .. one hour then the judge is like, ok lets have a break everyone

usualy only high profile trials obviously

well, point being, its there. and if it covered the whole trail, not just parts, then technically they were not wrong to arrest him. not on legal grounds. And if he knew that, and since he knew this session was over, just waiting on the verdict, then they are also correct to say he was disturbing the peace.

again, "breachign the peace" is trumped up charge

meh we can disagree here

but he did say in his stream "harass this man, harass his family, etc"

is it? like i said, if he knew it was breaking the law and then tried to frame it as he had no idea and they were arresting him for nothing, also said that, then those are all intentionally provocative statements.

yup and setenced for 13 months in prison

in which he will probably not survive.

well, technically its because he did it again despite being told not to

now if you want to talk about the original sentencing, that might be BS, i can't tell you

also, have the actually sentenced him on that? or was that the threat and now they need to affirm the actual length of the sentence

here: https://youtu.be/dC_33CJZ7W8?t=12m10s

you started that one to quick

for context

he was saying the media was harrassing the generation identity guy, and he said if you're going to harass someone, harass these guys on trial

he didn't straight up call for harrassment

technically he did. i agree its slightly bs to call that technicality, but its there

well.. he did straight up call for harassment ...thats just the reason for it

Holy cow

The Robinson stuff

although i really want to see the gag ruling

whether that reason is justified or not is another question

also

hes talking to the media

if it specifies the first part of the trail only, then this is a lot of bs

media harrassing is different then normal harassing

yeah, hes talking to the media

not an outward requst for normal people to harrass

isntead of hte other person he was talking about

Im not syaing its right, I'm just saying that it's not as cut as try as him telling the general populace to start harrassing people

as he's talking TO the media

he said the media harassed generation identity, but doesn't specify anyone when saying "if you are gonna harass someone"

but that statement is grounds for arrest, and whether the charge holds up if for the courts to decide

which they decided context doesn't matter in the UK

so

hes talking to the media there yo

I dont know if thats why the police got involved... I just posed it as a posibility

i agree, but that is an interpretation and up for the courts to decide. Since he didn't say "if the media is gonna harass someone." just if someone is gonna harass someone.

the police got involved because its tommy

and he exists

lmao

there will be no court involvement here

he will go directly to jail

he's already been convicted

^

also, context doesn't matter

and now will serve his suspended sentance

i.e. count dankula

so there is no court to decide if he actually violated parole?

nope

its done

hes already going to prison for 13 months

like I said

so then why didn't the police just arrest him the moment he went on parole?

apparently that is legal

also, it would be hard to interperet hes not talking to the media

https://youtu.be/dC_33CJZ7W8?t=710

start from there

they probably thought he would f*k up in some way

and actually say something racist for once 😛

you guys in the UK really have no probation hearings? we have them in the states. you still get taken to a judge

he wasnt out on probation as such... its just his sentence was suspended

so they just "unsuspended" it... he was always going to do 13months

ah

what does suspending even mean?

"you are gonna serve it....eventually"

but with actual probation he may not even do 13months... if he survives

yeah basically gives you time to get your affairs in order

hes only been sentenced because he mis-filed a mortgage application or something

that makes a little more sense, but still seems a tad bs to not have a judge go "yeah, thats legit, cut the suspension"

be like him getting it unsuspended for a parking ticket because a meter ran out

since he's already been sentenced i dont think it need to go up to a judge level anymore

yes he could very well get unsuspended for a parking violation

well like i said why bother with a suspension at that point if all it takes is a police offer saying "i arrested him"

basically.. if you want your jail time to remain suspended you have to be a model citizen above all other model citizens

forever?

but you will still serve the time

no the sentence is suspended to a specific date

even that doesn't save you

like i said, apparently just the cops claiming he did something, even if he was just walking into his house, is enough if no judge is involved

basically