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2018-01-09 00:05:05 UTC

I'm not even sure if you could say Trump represents either sides. I guess he'd have to represent the working class since the elite class hates him. He really represents the economy to me

2018-01-09 00:05:07 UTC

Does not take much to be a step above BuzzFeed though

2018-01-09 00:05:12 UTC

yeah no haha

2018-01-09 00:05:13 UTC

He just pretends his arguments have actual physical value, rather than just being moralist arguments repackaged.

2018-01-09 00:05:38 UTC

While Buzzfeed just goes straight for the moralizing.

2018-01-09 00:05:46 UTC

He's kind of a figure stuck between two areas of internet journalism

2018-01-09 00:06:04 UTC

Nothing of value until you give him something to debate?

2018-01-09 00:06:08 UTC

The article types and the youtube types

2018-01-09 00:06:18 UTC

I never read his writings so

2018-01-09 00:06:57 UTC

Thing is, I also avoid the news sites actively as well, like Fox, Brietbart and well, Inforwars, cause I also found some headlines rather silly.

2018-01-09 00:07:19 UTC

Rephrase, because English isn't my first language:

2018-01-09 00:08:19 UTC

I do not read most sites regardless of side. The right wing ones are just as capable of having silly headlines.

2018-01-09 00:08:39 UTC

He's able to provide a bit of argumentative backing to his moral positions, rather than just straight up presenting the moral arguments without backing at all. That lets him pretend that his arguments aren't just, well, moral arguments, because at first glance they aren't.

2018-01-09 00:08:43 UTC

Just happens so that for every Fox News, theres a dozen CNN tier sites.

2018-01-09 00:10:07 UTC

Still, rather talk about the original topic.

2018-01-09 00:10:37 UTC

A subset of the Don's supporters were skeptical at first, since they felt that Trump represented the elites.

2018-01-09 00:11:09 UTC

Dont know if these people felt the same about HRC as well.

2018-01-09 00:14:30 UTC

I think most people's thought process on that was "Even if Donald represents the elite, HRC definitely doesn't represent the people."

2018-01-09 00:14:40 UTC

Basically my opinion on those two

2018-01-09 00:18:07 UTC

I mean, I get that part, Trump is basically the elite, but his family had to start from the bottom as well. I cant think of anyone else who could take millions and regain that amount several thousand times over.

2018-01-09 00:18:36 UTC


2018-01-09 00:18:38 UTC

Someone put together a list of "alt right" accounts... Tim Poole is on it https://justpaste.it/1epdt

2018-01-09 00:18:45 UTC

Is there just a channel for chatting or is this basically it

2018-01-09 00:18:55 UTC

I am sure tim already is aware of that

2018-01-09 00:19:10 UTC

I think it's interesting. He's a part of the elite but the elite hates him. I think this is because all the elite threw a ton of money into Hillary's campaign (which everyone thought was a shoe in) and she lost so they got no returns

2018-01-09 00:19:25 UTC

Both the Alt Right and the Far Left misclassify Tim as supporting the opposite extreme, so it's not very surprising he made that list.

2018-01-09 00:20:09 UTC

I like how the alt left more quickly categorizes journalists than the alt right

2018-01-09 00:20:29 UTC

But if Tim Pool is an alt right, I am literally hitler.

2018-01-09 00:20:54 UTC

I just call them the ctrl Left

2018-01-09 00:21:02 UTC

If you don't have the same opinion as an extremest you must be the opposite. Religeous dogma 101

2018-01-09 00:21:35 UTC

Maybe its not that Trump was far right, but cause they were really far left.

2018-01-09 00:21:51 UTC

Or they did not see themselves as really far to one side.

2018-01-09 00:21:53 UTC

Honestly I don't even know what far right means these days

2018-01-09 00:21:58 UTC


2018-01-09 00:22:28 UTC

Yeah the left/right divide has shown itself as good for splitting up bodies of people and nothing really else

2018-01-09 00:22:30 UTC

There used to be meaning to it, but now it seems all encompassing for anything you disagree with

2018-01-09 00:22:35 UTC

i think its funny that I even just defended antifa in my latest video and they call me alt right

2018-01-09 00:22:45 UTC

i give them dsoooooo much more leeway than most

2018-01-09 00:22:58 UTC

alt right scum

2018-01-09 00:22:59 UTC

You think they would change their mind even if they saw the vid?

2018-01-09 00:22:59 UTC


2018-01-09 00:23:01 UTC

Once a hitler always a hitler. tim. Might as well start growing out that toothbrush moustache rn

2018-01-09 00:23:03 UTC


2018-01-09 00:23:05 UTC

theres no point

2018-01-09 00:23:13 UTC

too bad, its always nice to have a dream

2018-01-09 00:23:20 UTC

One can dream

2018-01-09 00:23:20 UTC

my bro was talking about counter points to their arguments and I had to explain that it doesnt matter

2018-01-09 00:23:28 UTC

Imo alt right is a pro white culture group (that I don't agree with) that has been polluted with white nationalists/ethno state advocates (which are even worse)

2018-01-09 00:23:33 UTC

What's worrying is that it only strengthens actual extremists views by lumping everyong in the alt right

2018-01-09 00:23:33 UTC

if you agree with them and youre mixed they say "oh of course you get it youre mixed"

2018-01-09 00:23:42 UTC

if you disagree they go "yea well you pass!"

2018-01-09 00:23:53 UTC

if youre black they say you internalize white supremacy

2018-01-09 00:23:57 UTC


2018-01-09 00:23:57 UTC

the only option is assimilation

2018-01-09 00:24:05 UTC

Just wondering tim, is it just that one bro? Or is the Pool dynasty bigger than that?

2018-01-09 00:24:09 UTC

I think i've been noticing the whole tumblr SJW think slightly dying down as of lately with all the scrutiny. Have you been noticing this tim or do you think it's getting worse?

2018-01-09 00:24:23 UTC

Totalitarinism but with blue hair and star wars

2018-01-09 00:24:26 UTC

@Timcast inb4 Harbinger "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL"

2018-01-09 00:24:29 UTC

Well, its either their way, or no way.

2018-01-09 00:24:33 UTC

if the earth is flat how are we alt right

2018-01-09 00:24:35 UTC


2018-01-09 00:24:35 UTC

theres another secret half brother

2018-01-09 00:24:35 UTC

It's like anyone right of Stalin is alt right

2018-01-09 00:24:36 UTC


2018-01-09 00:24:38 UTC

Which makes it kinda scary regardless.

2018-01-09 00:24:56 UTC

Hell, ive seen people call Bernie far right

2018-01-09 00:25:10 UTC


2018-01-09 00:25:29 UTC

im guna call them the borg from now on

2018-01-09 00:25:34 UTC

The alt left is so disconnected from reality.

2018-01-09 00:25:49 UTC

Well, being so far left that everyone right of you is far right, applies to both ends

2018-01-09 00:25:50 UTC

next time i get called alt right i'll just do a dance or something

2018-01-09 00:26:12 UTC

I wonder what it's like to live in a incubation tube with the only light being reddit tier consumerism

2018-01-09 00:26:12 UTC

until they call dancing itself alt right

2018-01-09 00:26:14 UTC

Borg, except you know

2018-01-09 00:26:21 UTC

Please do Tim, Please do.

2018-01-09 00:26:24 UTC

They have wierd ships

2018-01-09 00:26:24 UTC

does the KKK have a dance? I must find this out

2018-01-09 00:26:25 UTC

the borg is called "the collective"

2018-01-09 00:26:26 UTC

it fits

2018-01-09 00:26:39 UTC

and the only option is assimilation

2018-01-09 00:26:40 UTC

Just saying thank god they dont have an effective millitary

2018-01-09 00:26:45 UTC

... Let's make it a meme on twitter

2018-01-09 00:26:49 UTC

and the "drones" dont listen to individual communication

2018-01-09 00:26:54 UTC

the ctrl left being called the borg

2018-01-09 00:27:13 UTC

They don't all look like Jeri Ryan though ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2018-01-09 00:27:20 UTC

I am really sure Ive seen that meme before

2018-01-09 00:27:24 UTC

but are we in a bubble right now? ๐Ÿค”

2018-01-09 00:27:29 UTC


2018-01-09 00:27:29 UTC

Another was LotR posting

2018-01-09 00:28:15 UTC

Great, now I have the picard song stuck in my head

2018-01-09 00:28:19 UTC

Thing is, for the borg meme to work, the person needs to know the basics of ST lore.

2018-01-09 00:28:32 UTC

And well, when was the last good ST movie?

2018-01-09 00:28:39 UTC


2018-01-09 00:28:41 UTC

If someone doesn't know the basis of ST lore, they're literally of no use to society.

2018-01-09 00:28:46 UTC

Star Trek 5 was the last good ST movie

2018-01-09 00:29:10 UTC

I mean

2018-01-09 00:29:14 UTC

Ahhh fuck man, why is the SW universe so goddamned, well to put it bluntly, cucked now

2018-01-09 00:29:37 UTC

Because Disney

2018-01-09 00:29:38 UTC

the extended universe used to be kind of cool. Disney sucks cock

2018-01-09 00:29:50 UTC

Anyone see how Wil Wheaton got butthurt the other day?

2018-01-09 00:29:53 UTC

Since Discorvery came out, you'd think the left would know wtf a borg is

2018-01-09 00:29:54 UTC

Im one of the nerds, who reads the books

2018-01-09 00:29:55 UTC

To be fair, they're rebuilding the Extended Universe piecemeal

2018-01-09 00:30:06 UTC

I mean, I don't blame Disney in removing the EU, since there is some crazy stuff there.

2018-01-09 00:30:09 UTC

No Kyle katarn, EU ruined

2018-01-09 00:30:15 UTC

Timothy Zahn wrote "Thrawn" for Disney since they bought SW

2018-01-09 00:30:17 UTC

Like a depressed mountain

2018-01-09 00:30:17 UTC

No Mara Jade?

2018-01-09 00:30:29 UTC

If disney is writing the EU then it's no use

2018-01-09 00:30:50 UTC

i premise the series of "Space Samurai VS Space Nazi's where everyone is also a Wizard!" has always been bad.

2018-01-09 00:30:57 UTC

And well... Tim Zahn was a great writer, came up with the whole lore around Thrawn

2018-01-09 00:31:00 UTC

Timothy Zahn does not let anyone else wrote Thrawn

2018-01-09 00:31:07 UTC

Anyway I'm trying to find where the list started from but so far I've found this: https://twitter.com/TruthinGov2016/status/942969647774818304

2018-01-09 00:31:08 UTC

The series wasn't always that though.

2018-01-09 00:31:13 UTC

Disney turned it toward that.

2018-01-09 00:31:18 UTC

That's because Zahn is the only one who can properly write Thrawn

2018-01-09 00:31:24 UTC

TruthInGovt, wtf?

2018-01-09 00:31:26 UTC

Nah that was the original series, too dude

2018-01-09 00:31:27 UTC

So many great species just tossed to the wind...

2018-01-09 00:31:34 UTC

Not just species

2018-01-09 00:31:34 UTC

Like the Killik

2018-01-09 00:31:45 UTC

The entire government that Thrawn created

2018-01-09 00:31:51 UTC

Im not saying it isnt a fun kind of bad

2018-01-09 00:31:57 UTC

Like come on, the first multispecies empire legion

2018-01-09 00:32:02 UTC

but like... a 6th grader could have premised it

2018-01-09 00:32:15 UTC

a Marla Hughes allegedly started it

2018-01-09 00:32:29 UTC

Like an animated version of the Young Jedi Knight books would be hella loads better then the drivel that Rian Johnson pushed outta his anus.

2018-01-09 00:32:43 UTC

the only thing more toxic that polotics... starwars/star trek debate!

2018-01-09 00:32:49 UTC

Thank god I don't particularly care about the Star Wars universe

2018-01-09 00:33:17 UTC

I used to, but all that is retconned so whats the point anymore

2018-01-09 00:33:50 UTC

@GingaBomber Not retconned. They completely invalidated the old EU

2018-01-09 00:34:01 UTC

ah thats the word I was looking for

2018-01-09 00:34:10 UTC

Anything written for the EU prior to Disney's acquisition is non-canon

2018-01-09 00:34:28 UTC

Thing is, Ive gotten attatched to many characters in the books. So it really sucks that they are gone

2018-01-09 00:35:00 UTC

Well, if Disney let Zahn recreate Thrawn in the new EU, he'll probably push for Mara Jade, Talon Karrde, etc. as well

2018-01-09 00:35:08 UTC

I wasnt a fan of the Jedi, nor the Sith, I loved the stories on the common Rebel or Stormtroopers.

2018-01-09 00:35:25 UTC

Now, after where Episode VIII went, I'm not sure they'll let him do Mara Jade, but the rest are still doable

2018-01-09 00:35:29 UTC

All the underground seedy stuff was where it was at imo

2018-01-09 00:35:32 UTC

Timothy Zahn wrote a series on that actually. A group of 5 Stormtroopers who deserted.

2018-01-09 00:35:34 UTC

and Mara Jade could still be in the series

2018-01-09 00:35:37 UTC

like Jabba and the shit around that

2018-01-09 00:35:37 UTC

Yeah, Allegiance

2018-01-09 00:35:43 UTC

I own all the Zahn books

2018-01-09 00:35:57 UTC

How was choices of one?

2018-01-09 00:36:02 UTC

I couldnt find it here.

2018-01-09 00:36:29 UTC

It's a short story, I have an edition of one of his other books (Outbound Flight maybe? can't remember) that has it

2018-01-09 00:36:43 UTC

How short is short?

2018-01-09 00:37:04 UTC

Also, which book was it when they all had to serve under Thrawn in the end?

2018-01-09 00:37:04 UTC


2018-01-09 00:37:14 UTC

Why do you keep posting that emoji dude

2018-01-09 00:37:27 UTC

Cant show faces in chat

2018-01-09 00:37:40 UTC

thank goodness but google had to go and make it possible anyway...

2018-01-09 00:37:43 UTC


2018-01-09 00:37:52 UTC

@GingaBomber Let's see... short is "about one standard Timothy Zahn chapter" or slightly longer

2018-01-09 00:37:56 UTC

The pain I felt in my soul when I learned that the kids were wiped clean... I grew up with those stories... Read them day in day out. That wasn't the Luke I knew. That wasn't the Leia, the Han... You name it... It sucked... And it just.... it just feels so hollow compared to the old eu...

2018-01-09 00:38:17 UTC

Like it's missing it's soul.

2018-01-09 00:38:32 UTC

Theres also the Wraith Squadron series

2018-01-09 00:38:33 UTC

@GingaBomber And if I recall correctly, Allegiance is the book where they all server under Thrawn in the end, discounting the new Thrawn book written for the new EU

2018-01-09 00:39:01 UTC

Hmm I guess I forgot that part then, cause I did read Allegiance, but that was ages ago

2018-01-09 00:39:02 UTC

It's been a few years since I last read any of the old-EU books he wrote, I should re-read them

2018-01-09 00:39:14 UTC

Well, I do remember it fondly however

2018-01-09 00:39:54 UTC

I have yet to find a Timothy Zahn book I didn't like, even outside the SW EU books

2018-01-09 00:40:01 UTC

Actually, more like my memories of it are really positive

2018-01-09 00:40:14 UTC

So really sad that that entire history is gone now

2018-01-09 00:40:19 UTC

Then I check out MTG stuff and what do I see? Shitty misprinted cards and pedophiles for judges. Marvel? Grats, Iceman's gay and the new Ironman turned into a ruthless dictator of a small country... like wtf... why does the left move into these things... and ruin them?

2018-01-09 00:40:48 UTC

Fuck if they fuck with games, Ill ... well cant really do anything can I?

2018-01-09 00:41:06 UTC

That's already came and gone, unless you don't remember gamer gate...

2018-01-09 00:42:00 UTC

Games are still okay. So far they only stuck with the journalism and the events.

2018-01-09 00:42:11 UTC

gaming is permanently plagued wit hthose types dude

2018-01-09 00:42:28 UTC

And well, some larger games as well actually...

2018-01-09 00:42:31 UTC

The indie game devs are all those types and everything is marketed towards them

2018-01-09 00:42:57 UTC

I don't even game at all anymore outside of replaying Fallout 1 2 and new vegas

2018-01-09 00:43:14 UTC

Im still stuck with games

2018-01-09 00:43:14 UTC

remember the last wolfenstein game? That thing was a festering corpse full of SJW shit

2018-01-09 00:43:17 UTC

hell I am gaming now

2018-01-09 00:43:19 UTC

Warcrack will always be my main stay

2018-01-09 00:43:35 UTC


2018-01-09 00:43:39 UTC


2018-01-09 00:43:43 UTC


2018-01-09 00:43:47 UTC

Ive seen people call it crack as well so...

2018-01-09 00:43:57 UTC

But nah too grindy for my taste

2018-01-09 00:44:05 UTC

Warcrack, it's pornhub parody

2018-01-09 00:44:57 UTC

Well that and pen and paper gaming.

2018-01-09 00:45:01 UTC

damn did i miss the starwars book discussion dang

2018-01-09 00:45:10 UTC

*hence the bone gnawer name and pic*

2018-01-09 00:45:14 UTC

@SmallPrice You can always start it back up

2018-01-09 00:45:41 UTC

well its mostly salt after the disney buy anyways ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-01-09 00:45:56 UTC

Its always salt

2018-01-09 00:45:58 UTC

It is never a bad time to start discussion about sci-fi topics

2018-01-09 00:46:00 UTC

i *wish* they just used the heir to empire as movies

2018-01-09 00:46:08 UTC

or so many more to choose from

2018-01-09 00:46:12 UTC

After what they pulled in VIII I'm glad they didn't

2018-01-09 00:46:20 UTC

They wouldn't have done Heir to the Empire justice

2018-01-09 00:46:25 UTC


2018-01-09 00:46:47 UTC

maybe seth macfarlane does an alt-starwars too

2018-01-09 00:47:08 UTC

The thing about the recent film that erked me the most, is that you could fix most of the problems I had with the story with just minor edits or script changes and have it be acceptable.

2018-01-09 00:47:36 UTC

My choices woulda been a conglamarate of Courtship and x-wing -> Young Jedi + Yuuzan Tong (Forgot the spelling) -> Kilik invasion

2018-01-09 00:47:44 UTC

well it was poor craftsmanship, so poor that the starwars inconsistencies arent even my main problem with it ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-01-09 00:47:51 UTC

@Grenade123 Did you watch Troy Leavitt's video on that?

2018-01-09 00:48:09 UTC

were kilik after yuuzhan vong? damn its been some time

2018-01-09 00:48:11 UTC

@Madoc Valanor I think it's Yuuzan Vong

2018-01-09 00:48:26 UTC


2018-01-09 00:48:39 UTC

Jaina was an adult when the Kilik hit.

2018-01-09 00:48:46 UTC

@Revan yes i did, lol

2018-01-09 00:49:08 UTC

And her brother hadn't fallen to the dark side.

2018-01-09 00:49:08 UTC

And he pretty much hit the name on the head with what I was already thinking for the most part.

2018-01-09 00:49:10 UTC

it wouldve been epic to see normies struggle with the moral conundrum of palpatine preparing for the yuuzhan vong... thats for sure

2018-01-09 00:50:29 UTC

See, that's another thing of the old EU...

2018-01-09 00:51:01 UTC

@SmallPrice I don't think so, because it's well established in the original trilogy that Palpatine is "Not a Good Person ยฉ"

2018-01-09 00:51:01 UTC

It didn't make Palpatine completely evil like disney's EU...

2018-01-09 00:51:05 UTC

Nessessary evil, now its well... Just evil.

2018-01-09 00:51:39 UTC

Ergo, anything Palpatine would have done would be "the wrong thing to do"

2018-01-09 00:52:09 UTC

Has anyone seen the YouTube video where these two guys go over how horrible the quality of Vader's suit was

2018-01-09 00:52:22 UTC

Not that I'm aware of

2018-01-09 00:52:35 UTC

Are we talking cosmetically or functionally?

2018-01-09 00:52:40 UTC

muh palpatine ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-01-09 00:53:18 UTC

and... i HOPE they wont introduce Thrawn and warp him beyond recognition like they did with luke

2018-01-09 00:53:20 UTC


2018-01-09 00:53:31 UTC

Both, it's rather hilarious

2018-01-09 00:54:24 UTC

Also, apparently in the now defunct cannon, the place they sent him for reconstructive surgery was "emporer palpatine's center for reconstructive surgeries "

2018-01-09 00:54:47 UTC

Apparently that was high on his list of first things to rename as emporer

2018-01-09 00:54:50 UTC

Well, at least it's hard to confuse it with other medical centers

2018-01-09 00:55:43 UTC

Here we are

2018-01-09 00:55:53 UTC

Hang on, I only got back from work about half an hour ago and I'm still catching up on news and stuff

2018-01-09 00:57:58 UTC

Well canonically the suit was actually created to cause Vader immense pain, compared to other forms of medical augmentations. Basically, his suffering kept fueling his powers and attempted to push him deeper toward the darkside.

2018-01-09 00:58:52 UTC

And limit his movements too

2018-01-09 00:58:53 UTC

Well, it was also designed to keep him alive

2018-01-09 00:58:59 UTC

It had life support systems

2018-01-09 00:59:01 UTC

Sort of

2018-01-09 00:59:03 UTC

The shoulder plates alone weighed something like 12 kgs

2018-01-09 00:59:03 UTC

it was minimal though

2018-01-09 00:59:19 UTC

The video covers basically all that

2018-01-09 00:59:23 UTC

It's great

2018-01-09 00:59:56 UTC

So vader was so powerful that they designed the suit specifically to limit them?

2018-01-09 01:00:02 UTC


2018-01-09 01:00:08 UTC

Like apparently the helmet was made of shotty quality materials due to budget cuts imposed by the emporer so the bots made it shinny to hope they didn't notice

2018-01-09 01:00:12 UTC


2018-01-09 01:00:18 UTC

And nope

2018-01-09 01:00:20 UTC

He also couldn't use lightning due his cybernetic limbs

2018-01-09 01:00:35 UTC

Direct orders from the emperor to help hinder Vader.

2018-01-09 01:00:53 UTC

There's a reason why he asked Luke to take the helmet off...

2018-01-09 01:01:26 UTC

Basically Palps didn't want him being too strong because, you know, Palps had trust issues.

2018-01-09 01:01:32 UTC


2018-01-09 01:01:33 UTC

_The visual suite in it was so shoddy he couldn't see anything but lines. no color, nothing._

2018-01-09 01:01:36 UTC

His first name is Sheev

2018-01-09 01:07:29 UTC


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