I'm not even sure if you could say Trump represents either sides. I guess he'd have to represent the working class since the elite class hates him. He really represents the economy to me

Does not take much to be a step above BuzzFeed though

yeah no haha

He just pretends his arguments have actual physical value, rather than just being moralist arguments repackaged.

While Buzzfeed just goes straight for the moralizing.

He's kind of a figure stuck between two areas of internet journalism

Nothing of value until you give him something to debate?

The article types and the youtube types

I never read his writings so

Thing is, I also avoid the news sites actively as well, like Fox, Brietbart and well, Inforwars, cause I also found some headlines rather silly.

Rephrase, because English isn't my first language:

I do not read most sites regardless of side. The right wing ones are just as capable of having silly headlines.

He's able to provide a bit of argumentative backing to his moral positions, rather than just straight up presenting the moral arguments without backing at all. That lets him pretend that his arguments aren't just, well, moral arguments, because at first glance they aren't.

Just happens so that for every Fox News, theres a dozen CNN tier sites.

Still, rather talk about the original topic.

A subset of the Don's supporters were skeptical at first, since they felt that Trump represented the elites.

Dont know if these people felt the same about HRC as well.

I think most people's thought process on that was "Even if Donald represents the elite, HRC definitely doesn't represent the people."

Basically my opinion on those two

I mean, I get that part, Trump is basically the elite, but his family had to start from the bottom as well. I cant think of anyone else who could take millions and regain that amount several thousand times over.

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Someone put together a list of "alt right" accounts... Tim Poole is on it https://justpaste.it/1epdt

Is there just a channel for chatting or is this basically it

Found here https://twitter.com/davidmweissman/status/950502517565247489

I am sure tim already is aware of that

I think it's interesting. He's a part of the elite but the elite hates him. I think this is because all the elite threw a ton of money into Hillary's campaign (which everyone thought was a shoe in) and she lost so they got no returns

Both the Alt Right and the Far Left misclassify Tim as supporting the opposite extreme, so it's not very surprising he made that list.

I like how the alt left more quickly categorizes journalists than the alt right

But if Tim Pool is an alt right, I am literally hitler.

I just call them the ctrl Left

If you don't have the same opinion as an extremest you must be the opposite. Religeous dogma 101

Maybe its not that Trump was far right, but cause they were really far left.

Or they did not see themselves as really far to one side.

Honestly I don't even know what far right means these days

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Yeah the left/right divide has shown itself as good for splitting up bodies of people and nothing really else

There used to be meaning to it, but now it seems all encompassing for anything you disagree with

i think its funny that I even just defended antifa in my latest video and they call me alt right

i give them dsoooooo much more leeway than most

alt right scum

You think they would change their mind even if they saw the vid?

lmfao

Once a hitler always a hitler. tim. Might as well start growing out that toothbrush moustache rn

nope

theres no point

too bad, its always nice to have a dream

One can dream

my bro was talking about counter points to their arguments and I had to explain that it doesnt matter

Imo alt right is a pro white culture group (that I don't agree with) that has been polluted with white nationalists/ethno state advocates (which are even worse)

What's worrying is that it only strengthens actual extremists views by lumping everyong in the alt right

if you agree with them and youre mixed they say "oh of course you get it youre mixed"

if you disagree they go "yea well you pass!"

if youre black they say you internalize white supremacy

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the only option is assimilation

Just wondering tim, is it just that one bro? Or is the Pool dynasty bigger than that?

I think i've been noticing the whole tumblr SJW think slightly dying down as of lately with all the scrutiny. Have you been noticing this tim or do you think it's getting worse?

Totalitarinism but with blue hair and star wars

@Timcast inb4 Harbinger "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL"

Well, its either their way, or no way.

if the earth is flat how are we alt right

"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE"

theres another secret half brother

It's like anyone right of Stalin is alt right

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Which makes it kinda scary regardless.

Hell, ive seen people call Bernie far right

Haha

im guna call them the borg from now on

The alt left is so disconnected from reality.

Well, being so far left that everyone right of you is far right, applies to both ends

next time i get called alt right i'll just do a dance or something

I wonder what it's like to live in a incubation tube with the only light being reddit tier consumerism

until they call dancing itself alt right

Borg, except you know

Please do Tim, Please do.

They have wierd ships

does the KKK have a dance? I must find this out

the borg is called "the collective"

it fits

and the only option is assimilation

Just saying thank god they dont have an effective millitary

... Let's make it a meme on twitter

and the "drones" dont listen to individual communication

the ctrl left being called the borg

They don't all look like Jeri Ryan though 😦

I am really sure Ive seen that meme before

but are we in a bubble right now? 🤔

Yes

Another was LotR posting

Great, now I have the picard song stuck in my head

Thing is, for the borg meme to work, the person needs to know the basics of ST lore.

And well, when was the last good ST movie?

5

If someone doesn't know the basis of ST lore, they're literally of no use to society.

Star Trek 5 was the last good ST movie

I mean

Ahhh fuck man, why is the SW universe so goddamned, well to put it bluntly, cucked now

Because Disney

the extended universe used to be kind of cool. Disney sucks cock

Anyone see how Wil Wheaton got butthurt the other day?

Since Discorvery came out, you'd think the left would know wtf a borg is

Im one of the nerds, who reads the books

To be fair, they're rebuilding the Extended Universe piecemeal

I mean, I don't blame Disney in removing the EU, since there is some crazy stuff there.

No Kyle katarn, EU ruined

Timothy Zahn wrote "Thrawn" for Disney since they bought SW

Like a depressed mountain

No Mara Jade?

If disney is writing the EU then it's no use

i premise the series of "Space Samurai VS Space Nazi's where everyone is also a Wizard!" has always been bad.

And well... Tim Zahn was a great writer, came up with the whole lore around Thrawn

Timothy Zahn does not let anyone else wrote Thrawn

Anyway I'm trying to find where the list started from but so far I've found this: https://twitter.com/TruthinGov2016/status/942969647774818304

The series wasn't always that though.

Disney turned it toward that.

That's because Zahn is the only one who can properly write Thrawn

TruthInGovt, wtf?

Nah that was the original series, too dude

So many great species just tossed to the wind...

Not just species

Like the Killik

http://comicbook.com/startrek/2017/12/31/wil-wheaton-wesley-crusher-star-trek-the-next-generation-lego-mi/

The entire government that Thrawn created

Im not saying it isnt a fun kind of bad

Like come on, the first multispecies empire legion

There's a medium commen on it https://medium.com/@nicholasgrossman/im-familiar-with-a-lot-of-that-abbb5cacaef6

but like... a 6th grader could have premised it

a Marla Hughes allegedly started it

Like an animated version of the Young Jedi Knight books would be hella loads better then the drivel that Rian Johnson pushed outta his anus.

the only thing more toxic that polotics... starwars/star trek debate!

Thank god I don't particularly care about the Star Wars universe

I used to, but all that is retconned so whats the point anymore

@GingaBomber Not retconned. They completely invalidated the old EU

ah thats the word I was looking for

Anything written for the EU prior to Disney's acquisition is non-canon

Thing is, Ive gotten attatched to many characters in the books. So it really sucks that they are gone

Well, if Disney let Zahn recreate Thrawn in the new EU, he'll probably push for Mara Jade, Talon Karrde, etc. as well

I wasnt a fan of the Jedi, nor the Sith, I loved the stories on the common Rebel or Stormtroopers.

Now, after where Episode VIII went, I'm not sure they'll let him do Mara Jade, but the rest are still doable

All the underground seedy stuff was where it was at imo

Timothy Zahn wrote a series on that actually. A group of 5 Stormtroopers who deserted.

and Mara Jade could still be in the series

like Jabba and the shit around that

Yeah, Allegiance

I own all the Zahn books

How was choices of one?

I couldnt find it here.

It's a short story, I have an edition of one of his other books (Outbound Flight maybe? can't remember) that has it

How short is short?

Also, which book was it when they all had to serve under Thrawn in the end?

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Why do you keep posting that emoji dude

Cant show faces in chat

thank goodness but google had to go and make it possible anyway...

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@GingaBomber Let's see... short is "about one standard Timothy Zahn chapter" or slightly longer

The pain I felt in my soul when I learned that the kids were wiped clean... I grew up with those stories... Read them day in day out. That wasn't the Luke I knew. That wasn't the Leia, the Han... You name it... It sucked... And it just.... it just feels so hollow compared to the old eu...

Like it's missing it's soul.

Theres also the Wraith Squadron series

@GingaBomber And if I recall correctly, Allegiance is the book where they all server under Thrawn in the end, discounting the new Thrawn book written for the new EU

Hmm I guess I forgot that part then, cause I did read Allegiance, but that was ages ago

It's been a few years since I last read any of the old-EU books he wrote, I should re-read them

Well, I do remember it fondly however

I have yet to find a Timothy Zahn book I didn't like, even outside the SW EU books

Actually, more like my memories of it are really positive

So really sad that that entire history is gone now

Then I check out MTG stuff and what do I see? Shitty misprinted cards and pedophiles for judges. Marvel? Grats, Iceman's gay and the new Ironman turned into a ruthless dictator of a small country... like wtf... why does the left move into these things... and ruin them?

Fuck if they fuck with games, Ill ... well cant really do anything can I?

That's already came and gone, unless you don't remember gamer gate...

Games are still okay. So far they only stuck with the journalism and the events.

gaming is permanently plagued wit hthose types dude

And well, some larger games as well actually...

The indie game devs are all those types and everything is marketed towards them

I don't even game at all anymore outside of replaying Fallout 1 2 and new vegas

Im still stuck with games

remember the last wolfenstein game? That thing was a festering corpse full of SJW shit

hell I am gaming now

Warcrack will always be my main stay

Warframe?

Nah

Warcraft

Ive seen people call it crack as well so...

But nah too grindy for my taste

Warcrack, it's pornhub parody

Well that and pen and paper gaming.

damn did i miss the starwars book discussion dang

*hence the bone gnawer name and pic*

@SmallPrice You can always start it back up

well its mostly salt after the disney buy anyways 😄

Its always salt

It is never a bad time to start discussion about sci-fi topics

i *wish* they just used the heir to empire as movies

or so many more to choose from

After what they pulled in VIII I'm glad they didn't

They wouldn't have done Heir to the Empire justice

true

maybe seth macfarlane does an alt-starwars too

The thing about the recent film that erked me the most, is that you could fix most of the problems I had with the story with just minor edits or script changes and have it be acceptable.

My choices woulda been a conglamarate of Courtship and x-wing -> Young Jedi + Yuuzan Tong (Forgot the spelling) -> Kilik invasion

well it was poor craftsmanship, so poor that the starwars inconsistencies arent even my main problem with it 😉

@Grenade123 Did you watch Troy Leavitt's video on that?

were kilik after yuuzhan vong? damn its been some time

@Madoc Valanor I think it's Yuuzan Vong

Yeah

Jaina was an adult when the Kilik hit.

@Revan yes i did, lol

And her brother hadn't fallen to the dark side.

And he pretty much hit the name on the head with what I was already thinking for the most part.

it wouldve been epic to see normies struggle with the moral conundrum of palpatine preparing for the yuuzhan vong... thats for sure

See, that's another thing of the old EU...

@SmallPrice I don't think so, because it's well established in the original trilogy that Palpatine is "Not a Good Person ©"

It didn't make Palpatine completely evil like disney's EU...

Nessessary evil, now its well... Just evil.

Ergo, anything Palpatine would have done would be "the wrong thing to do"

Has anyone seen the YouTube video where these two guys go over how horrible the quality of Vader's suit was

Not that I'm aware of

Are we talking cosmetically or functionally?

muh palpatine 😃

and... i HOPE they wont introduce Thrawn and warp him beyond recognition like they did with luke

Yes

Both, it's rather hilarious

Also, apparently in the now defunct cannon, the place they sent him for reconstructive surgery was "emporer palpatine's center for reconstructive surgeries "

Apparently that was high on his list of first things to rename as emporer

Well, at least it's hard to confuse it with other medical centers

https://youtu.be/FVzc20Bm8Xo

Here we are

Hang on, I only got back from work about half an hour ago and I'm still catching up on news and stuff

Well canonically the suit was actually created to cause Vader immense pain, compared to other forms of medical augmentations. Basically, his suffering kept fueling his powers and attempted to push him deeper toward the darkside.

And limit his movements too

Well, it was also designed to keep him alive

It had life support systems

Sort of

The shoulder plates alone weighed something like 12 kgs

it was minimal though

The video covers basically all that

It's great

So vader was so powerful that they designed the suit specifically to limit them?

Basically.

Like apparently the helmet was made of shotty quality materials due to budget cuts imposed by the emporer so the bots made it shinny to hope they didn't notice

Yup.

And nope

He also couldn't use lightning due his cybernetic limbs

Direct orders from the emperor to help hinder Vader.

There's a reason why he asked Luke to take the helmet off...

Basically Palps didn't want him being too strong because, you know, Palps had trust issues.

Sheev

_The visual suite in it was so shoddy he couldn't see anything but lines. no color, nothing._

His first name is Sheev

hi