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2018-05-03 21:28:25 UTC

Really though.

2018-05-03 21:28:38 UTC

I prefer Tim's stuff just because he tends to get more details than everyone else.

2018-05-03 21:28:41 UTC

Tim _tries_ to be neutral in a wrong way (if that makes sense to you)

2018-05-03 21:28:43 UTC

Whether intentionally or unintentionally.

2018-05-03 21:29:03 UTC

There's always little details and tidbits that end up getting lost with other people that tim reminds us of. Which is always nice to have.

2018-05-03 21:29:43 UTC

I follow some people that are pro-left. I still prefer that than to _try_ to be neutral

2018-05-03 21:29:46 UTC

Only problem i have with tim is that he sometimes becomes the story

2018-05-03 21:29:54 UTC

Nothing against Tim though

2018-05-03 21:29:58 UTC

..Explain?

2018-05-03 21:30:14 UTC

when he zooms into the cat, the cat becomes the story, case closed πŸ˜›

2018-05-03 21:30:14 UTC

Also what pro-left things do you follow? I find it hard to trust pretty much anyone from that end these days.

2018-05-03 21:30:31 UTC

Oh also. Can someone confirm that tim actually has an instagram account for his cat?

2018-05-03 21:30:34 UTC

Kyle Kullinsky? that guy from Secular Talk

2018-05-03 21:30:39 UTC

I followed the link on one of his videos and I still can't confirm.

2018-05-03 21:30:41 UTC

no clue how to write his name

2018-05-03 21:30:43 UTC

Tim isn't hard on the left when they are wrong, because he tries to be neutral. Same thing for the right

2018-05-03 21:31:00 UTC

wrong and right is a matter of perspective though

2018-05-03 21:32:30 UTC

Tim chooses to β€žsee the good intentionsβ€œ so to speak

2018-05-03 21:33:08 UTC

seen the latest pewdiepie video .. basically saying hes just a hat merchant now?

2018-05-03 21:33:15 UTC

thats what Tim needs to be

2018-05-03 21:33:21 UTC

a beanie merchant

2018-05-03 21:33:48 UTC

Tim needs to sell beanie babies

2018-05-03 21:33:53 UTC

How much do you think this would go for?

2018-05-03 21:33:56 UTC

afaik, Tim just explains the situation and doesn't presume malice,

to say he's "not hard on the left" is basically like those people that say Dave Rubin isn't hard enough on his guests,
You don't have to hound someone jsut because you disagree with them. Let them have their side, and have viewers decide for themselves

2018-05-03 21:33:56 UTC

That's Emily's cat, Betsy.

2018-05-03 21:34:00 UTC

cultarally appropriate the fishermen

2018-05-03 21:34:12 UTC

..Who's emily?

2018-05-03 21:34:23 UTC

@Dr.Wol on some things, _wrong_ is really clear for both sides

2018-05-03 21:34:27 UTC

the gal who he does the culture war podcast with

2018-05-03 21:34:45 UTC

The.. person who liked far cry 5 or was that someone else?

2018-05-03 21:35:15 UTC

I think she said something about liking far cry 5

2018-05-03 21:35:27 UTC

@.B And he shows that and lets you decide, would you rather have him be like CNN going "You're bad for X, you should be ashamed, everyone join us/me in shaming this person" and basically just hating on someone?

2018-05-03 21:35:58 UTC

^

2018-05-03 21:37:44 UTC

imo, news should just be like Tim tries to do it, report the situation, elaborate on both sides, and let people decide for themselves,
And give the bad people a noose to basically hang themselves with

2018-05-03 21:38:05 UTC

I think everyone should hate on count duckula. Broccoli sandwiches are disgusting 😁

2018-05-03 21:38:31 UTC

Yep, she did a review of Far Cry 5. It's on Subverse.

2018-05-03 21:39:52 UTC

I think Tim should do "Bean News" in which he gives news from the perspective of his beanie

2018-05-03 21:39:57 UTC

πŸ˜›

2018-05-03 21:42:02 UTC

@Dr.Wol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNSuYQ0mYUE&feature=youtu.be&t=25s For some inexplicable reason I imagine it to sound something like this.

2018-05-03 21:43:31 UTC

thats exactly what it should be like

2018-05-03 21:46:01 UTC

But yeah. More completely deadpan news sources would be nice. But that's its own category and I can't seem to find those.

2018-05-03 21:46:27 UTC

I used to know one but he got a wee bit too anti-vax for my tastes.

2018-05-03 21:46:37 UTC

Stopped being for legitimate reasons and turned into, yeah.

2018-05-03 21:49:26 UTC

i dont think you have to be dead-pan ... philly D is pretty good IMO

2018-05-03 21:50:04 UTC

Ehhh. I try to watch him from time to time but I really can't for anything more than a few minutes per week.

2018-05-03 21:50:30 UTC

His coverage just feels too.. mainstream I guess?

2018-05-03 21:50:33 UTC

@Dr.Wol let me give you an example, you can be a trump supporter and say where he fucked up. Both sides agree that it was a fuck up, they usually just don't agree on the "why".

2018-05-03 21:51:04 UTC

I don't need to hear about trump controversy #13894819384, #1387491834 and #198491384 all in the same week. Nor do I need to hear about hollywood story #3498728374 and celebrity #394813948 not getting on with #394823984.

2018-05-03 21:51:13 UTC

And that's what a lot of what defranco focuses on.

2018-05-03 21:51:15 UTC

Being of one side doesn't mean you can't be honest when your side's fucks up

2018-05-03 21:51:57 UTC

Especially when it seems like he's shining lights on non-stories just because people are talking about them.

2018-05-03 22:06:41 UTC

I don't watch defranco

2018-05-03 22:06:51 UTC

just as I don't watch h3h3

2018-05-03 22:07:12 UTC

aside for the ocasional video when other youtubers point them out

2018-05-03 22:14:22 UTC

h3h3's podcast is neat though.

2018-05-03 22:18:37 UTC

I dont like to make definitive claims without proof

2018-05-03 22:18:43 UTC

and legally I cant accuse the left of malice

2018-05-03 22:18:56 UTC

if I said NBCnews IS lying about JBP on purpose I can get sued into oblivion

2018-05-03 22:19:48 UTC

but Im also not to claim that its even my opinion because if I dont have proof why bother

2018-05-03 22:19:53 UTC

all it does is sow division

2018-05-03 22:20:50 UTC

I think we're at critical mass for dividsion

2018-05-03 22:20:56 UTC

no way

2018-05-03 22:21:08 UTC

when regular folks are beating people in thr street then yea

2018-05-03 22:21:14 UTC

but right now its small factions

2018-05-03 22:21:31 UTC

I don't know.. with kanye on tmz

2018-05-03 22:21:36 UTC

that's pretty people in the street

2018-05-03 22:21:44 UTC

haah yea that was crazy

2018-05-03 22:21:49 UTC

kanye is going to start CW2

2018-05-03 22:22:08 UTC

"Hey dude, I wanna hug you right now, I love you man"

2018-05-03 22:22:36 UTC

>if I said NBCnews IS lying about JBP on purpose I can get sued into oblivion
that's the problem imo, the ones that state that and say that it's an opinion are free to say what they think

2018-05-03 22:22:54 UTC

sure, they aren't always right and even if obvious, as a journalist you can't say it

2018-05-03 22:22:58 UTC

well libel and slander are specifically NOT covered by free speech

2018-05-03 22:23:01 UTC

he can't dothat

2018-05-03 22:23:06 UTC

especially as a journalist

2018-05-03 22:23:33 UTC

but that's why people prefer more opiniated people right now

2018-05-03 22:24:39 UTC

that's the whole reason I started to watch Sargon back in the day, he would cross the same news from different sources and formulate a conclusion on the facts with the known information and his opinion on it

2018-05-03 22:26:10 UTC

it's like looking at Fake News and not being able to call them on it because there's no "proof" of malicious intention and fear of being sued for it

2018-05-03 22:28:52 UTC

uh... just watched the robin hood trailer...

2018-05-03 22:29:00 UTC

theres no proof of malice

2018-05-03 22:29:03 UTC

Im not going to make shit up

2018-05-03 22:29:50 UTC

loads of people with either American accents or southern English accents.... not a single Nottingham accent... or even close to it 😦

2018-05-03 22:38:29 UTC

damnd

2018-05-03 22:38:42 UTC

hbomberguy and contract points with almost 3x the patrons I have

2018-05-03 22:38:51 UTC

contra*

2018-05-03 22:38:57 UTC

it pays to be a hard partisan

2018-05-03 22:39:23 UTC

doesnt rubin have like .. 50k a month or something on patreon?

2018-05-03 22:39:32 UTC

yea but he has like 650k subs

2018-05-03 22:39:45 UTC

contra has 99k

2018-05-03 22:39:46 UTC

sweet .... do whatever hes doing πŸ˜›

2018-05-03 22:39:48 UTC

I have 164k

2018-05-03 22:41:31 UTC

maybe its the suit.. have you thought about trying a suit?

2018-05-03 22:47:59 UTC

You picked hard mode. Good on you, really.

2018-05-03 23:03:24 UTC

tbh I have not seen anything contra does... whats his shtick?

2018-05-03 23:10:57 UTC

sorry... her ... watching latest vid now...

2018-05-03 23:12:10 UTC

very.... theatrical...

2018-05-03 23:17:35 UTC

ok so basically a communist?

2018-05-03 23:19:25 UTC

yep

2018-05-03 23:37:28 UTC

errrrmmm she tried to defend identity politics ... the most highly effective tool of the nazis... apart from that.. meh

2018-05-03 23:41:22 UTC

its 1am... sargon is doing a livestream... does he sleep?

2018-05-03 23:57:39 UTC

I'm pretty sure everyone that bases their career on youtube has one sleep problem or another. haha

2018-05-03 23:59:54 UTC

maybe Tim needs one of these weekly shows like sargons "this week in stupid"

2018-05-04 00:02:43 UTC

but more news related... like... "this week last decade" ... pull out some stories from this week 2008 ... show some of the contrasts of stories then and now? how we were wrong or right about some stories? .. just spitballin

2018-05-04 00:04:21 UTC

people often say how we have regressed so much recently.. but Im sure all these regressive stories were just as bad back then

2018-05-04 00:04:53 UTC

I think Tim sees himself as a reporter more than a opinion writer and something like that would be a purely opinionised work

2018-05-04 00:04:55 UTC

we do that on the podcast

2018-05-04 00:05:06 UTC

we have a discussion about the stories of the past week

2018-05-04 00:05:09 UTC

ah fair enough πŸ˜›

2018-05-04 00:05:20 UTC

otherwise it would be the same as my daily episode just three stories instead of one

2018-05-04 00:52:30 UTC

Just listen to the mcdonalds story on T3 of May 2.
I feel key information was left out.
So, how was the replacement burger?

2018-05-04 00:56:36 UTC

I take it "the feed" is basically like the onion?

2018-05-04 00:57:05 UTC

These days it's hard to tell.

2018-05-04 00:57:20 UTC

there is no way on earth this is serious

2018-05-04 00:58:11 UTC

If you're talking the content, I'm sure there are feminists that truly believe women should receive no jail time for violence against men.

2018-05-04 00:59:24 UTC

oh and its about austrailian prisoners ... from the country that brought us prisoner cell block H .. and the recent remake... errr... the name of the prisoner.. bugger whats it called?

2018-05-04 00:59:49 UTC

wentworth

2018-05-04 01:01:12 UTC

I'm not familiar with either series, unfortunately.

2018-05-04 01:01:56 UTC

a show where a woman staddles another woman and cuts out her tongue... several throat slashings

2018-05-04 01:04:35 UTC

Seems tame today but I'm guessing that was shocking back in the 80's.

2018-05-04 01:05:10 UTC

thats in the recent remake

2018-05-04 01:05:31 UTC

"The Feed" appears to be some kind of Vice clone hosted by Australia's SBS network.

2018-05-04 01:05:59 UTC

Ah, so it's "serious" news then.

2018-05-04 01:06:21 UTC

Not news as such, but yes it is serious.

2018-05-04 01:06:27 UTC

I think someone there is trollin

2018-05-04 01:06:57 UTC

We're talking about it, so wacky shit like this gets eyeballs.

2018-05-04 01:08:58 UTC

But does that mean as much anymore with ad blockers so wide spread? Before they could scrape some income with sensationalism but does it get them much more than ridicule now?

2018-05-04 01:11:57 UTC

heh.. so elections are over and Conservative made gains in the Uk

2018-05-04 01:12:19 UTC

twittersphere is dumbfounded "how can this happen"

2018-05-04 01:12:44 UTC

"all our polls showed 100% of ppl wanted labour"

2018-05-04 01:13:01 UTC

so out of touch

2018-05-04 01:13:33 UTC

Adblocking solutions on mobile devices are limited, and viewership from mobile devices is often the majority these days (though it varies considerably from site to site)

2018-05-04 01:13:41 UTC

Does that mean that Brexit will start moving forward?

2018-05-04 01:14:02 UTC

doesnt really affect brexit

2018-05-04 01:14:20 UTC

since both parties have to be "pro brexit" after the ref

2018-05-04 01:14:42 UTC

I never consider mobile since I hate using my cellphone. Desktop all the way for me if I can help it.

2018-05-04 01:14:57 UTC

pc master race

2018-05-04 01:39:48 UTC

Use it as a portable router if you have to.

2018-05-04 01:40:14 UTC

That said, tablet operating systems are starting to push towards more of a generalised / desktop user experience so you *might* be lucky in the near future.

2018-05-04 03:47:39 UTC

Itd be better if we had options for looking at ads or not. Or like, give people the ability to watch an ad for like, the behind the scenes or whatever

2018-05-04 03:47:46 UTC

Incentive program

2018-05-04 11:40:24 UTC

opinion piece in the belgian news
going against cultural marxism, extreme left, etc etc
from a born in belgium but genetic maroccan even
mind you, the opposing opinion was also featured a couple days earlier on the same site

2018-05-04 11:59:38 UTC

interesting... looks like SAA and SDF are flanking ISIS...

2018-05-04 11:59:41 UTC

Joe rogan had abby martin on talking bad about vice's coverage of venezuela and ukraine of which I was a major part of

2018-05-04 11:59:56 UTC

Joe is even friends with shane and he has abby on knocking our coverage

2018-05-04 12:00:18 UTC

is there a url link?

2018-05-04 12:03:31 UTC

sounds like joe watches a lot of Vice

2018-05-04 12:05:10 UTC

my response

2018-05-04 12:05:13 UTC

I wonder what Russia offered the FSA to not only surrender... but theyre now helping put up Russian flags in N.Homs

2018-05-04 12:05:14 UTC

scroll to comments

2018-05-04 12:07:02 UTC

mis-spelled good

2018-05-04 12:07:25 UTC

Oh boy the very first comment under yours is uh.

2018-05-04 12:07:28 UTC

Something else.

2018-05-04 12:08:46 UTC

hmm I gave it a thumbs up... about a minute later refreshed... its on 0 :/

2018-05-04 12:08:54 UTC

@wacka That ISIS pocket near the Iraq border contains a bridge over the Euphrates. Important since the one in Deir ez-Zor has been destroyed.

2018-05-04 12:09:24 UTC

So it's not so much the SAA and SDF teaming up to kill ISIS so much as them both trying to push out remnants to capture the bridge.

2018-05-04 12:09:42 UTC

theres a rumour that a staged chemical attack has been in the works since April 23rd in Dier Ez-zor

2018-05-04 12:10:01 UTC

not sure how credible it is... it was from a russian source

2018-05-04 12:10:17 UTC

but if we see one in the near future...

2018-05-04 12:11:37 UTC

Quite possible. SAA failed to make any headway after they crossed near there, and their pontoon bridge was destroyed. They might be preparing to gas the SDF (since their conventional advance failed), and then claim the SDF gassed themselves as a false flag.

2018-05-04 12:11:53 UTC

Maskirovka.

2018-05-04 12:12:17 UTC

There are so many layers of deception in anything the Russians say or do that even they have a hard time parsing it.

2018-05-04 12:12:38 UTC

I look at the motive though... the SAA and SDF have only had minor clashes.. it would be silly to make them a majorr enemy now

2018-05-04 12:13:05 UTC

and also get another strike from the allied coalition

2018-05-04 12:13:11 UTC

Why? SAA has basically recaptured every other part of the country. To make any further advances they either have to clash with SDF or Turks.

2018-05-04 12:13:26 UTC

They can't just sit idle when they're winning.

2018-05-04 12:14:12 UTC

but SDF is taking care of ISIS in that region... theyd be better off heading south... or north to idlib

2018-05-04 12:14:26 UTC

ISIS is basically dead as a conventional force.

2018-05-04 12:14:28 UTC

I see that Turkey is now occupying a huge chunk of northern syria

2018-05-04 12:14:41 UTC

in their "operation olive branch"

2018-05-04 12:15:03 UTC

That little pocket that both sides are spit-roasting is their last piece of inhabited territory.

2018-05-04 12:15:17 UTC

Erdogan: "we're going to create a safe zone in Syria... by killing everyone in sight"

2018-05-04 12:15:58 UTC

He needs an external enemy.

2018-05-04 12:16:11 UTC

Erdogan?

2018-05-04 12:16:18 UTC

Yes. And there are Kurds on that side of the border.

2018-05-04 12:16:29 UTC

what do you think will happen in 2021?

2018-05-04 12:16:47 UTC

When there is a new leader in Syria

2018-05-04 12:17:18 UTC

Too far out to predict anything in such a mixed up chaotic situation.

2018-05-04 12:17:39 UTC

I mean literally Assad cannot run for office...

2018-05-04 12:17:59 UTC

because of the ammendments parliament made to the constitution in 2012

2018-05-04 12:18:29 UTC

whereby a president can only run for two 7yr terms max

2018-05-04 12:18:53 UTC

I don't think laws are going to stop anyone here.

2018-05-04 12:18:58 UTC

I guess he got round the loophole in 2014 by saying the amendment is new .. so this is his "second" term

2018-05-04 12:19:31 UTC

if he goes against the syrian constitution he will lose all credibility

2018-05-04 12:20:03 UTC

he was lucky enough to find 4 parties for form a coalition with him to get the 168 seats in parliament he needed

2018-05-04 12:25:45 UTC

it looks like maybe Russia will concentrate on the north east while Syria handles the south east... its getting close to Israel tho... he wants to be careful

2018-05-04 12:26:46 UTC

Tim you should go along with it πŸ˜› .. change your name to Bond, Tim Bond

2018-05-04 12:29:23 UTC

There's a possible flash point between the Russians and the Turks in that heavy bombardment of Al Lataminah area is rather close to a new Turk FOB near Morek, astride the main road north. Assuming the SAA takes the Al Lataminah, they'll have to deal with Turks next - either diplomatically or militarily.

2018-05-04 12:31:02 UTC

I think until they get most of syria locked down... they should just concentrate of stopping any incursions into Aleppo, but who knows whats on their minds

2018-05-04 12:31:52 UTC

any rebels they've ever beat they sent them all to Idlib... I imagine thats an extremely overcrowded place right now... and Assad let them keep all their personal weapons

2018-05-04 12:32:47 UTC

Hey Tim, Fancy a trip to Idlib? πŸ˜›

2018-05-04 12:33:17 UTC

Don't tell me... your submarine car is currently on the fritz

2018-05-04 12:34:29 UTC

There are virtually no western journalists in the entire country.

2018-05-04 12:36:06 UTC

First of all it's a meat grinder for anyone near areas of active fighting. Second of all no one wants to let randos cross the border. Getting in is extremely difficult as is not dying.

2018-05-04 12:37:00 UTC

Which is a shame as it means when stuff like the recent missile strike happens no one has any hope of getting the truth of the matter. You just have to decide which narrative you like best.

2018-05-04 12:44:36 UTC

haha, Tim works for Fox now apparently πŸ˜›

2018-05-04 12:44:57 UTC

Congrats on the new position, Tim!

2018-05-04 12:45:28 UTC

she isnt even arguing

2018-05-04 12:45:32 UTC

and she argued against herslef

2018-05-04 12:45:35 UTC

herself

2018-05-04 12:45:49 UTC

I'm still not entirely sure who abby martin is but my experience of joe rogan has been that he's fine until he gets into debates with people he doesn't like or disagree with him.

2018-05-04 12:46:11 UTC

Then it just gets emotional and he starts tripping up. Basically I kinda figured this would be a disaster from the getgo.

2018-05-04 12:46:12 UTC

she used to have an RT show called breaking the set

2018-05-04 12:46:16 UTC

shes pro russia pro venezuela

2018-05-04 12:46:33 UTC

Boy oh boy.

2018-05-04 12:46:58 UTC

she criticized Russia while hosting a show on RT and got a guest spot on CNN

2018-05-04 12:47:05 UTC

gained tons of followers

2018-05-04 12:47:21 UTC

we were friends but shes pro venezuela antifa

2018-05-04 12:47:21 UTC

so

2018-05-04 12:48:28 UTC

is media roots basically just her?

2018-05-04 12:55:30 UTC

Okay, I'm on like, no sleep at all right now but tl;dr, Tim's being accused(slandered?) by Joe Rogan, a conservative comedian and Abby Martin, a.. socialist(?) 'journalist' so any and all attempts at defending himself is basically going to end up as a shitshow on social media regardless of how he puts it.

2018-05-04 12:55:35 UTC

Or at least, that's how I'm reading it.

2018-05-04 12:57:53 UTC

is there a good replacement for the verge and gizmodo? ... like basically .. exactly how those sites were... but like.. a few years back

2018-05-04 12:58:31 UTC

So, basically just tech news and the like without the bullshit politics?

2018-05-04 12:58:44 UTC

Or at the very least, if there were politics it wasn't emotional rhetoric?

2018-05-04 12:58:57 UTC

basically

2018-05-04 12:59:10 UTC

Are you okay if I basically gave you nothing but youtubers?

2018-05-04 12:59:40 UTC

I can always check em out

2018-05-04 13:00:17 UTC

I got banned from the verge πŸ˜›

2018-05-04 13:00:19 UTC

Well they're all a bit more specialised than the sites you listed but. JayzTwoCents, Louis Rossmann and Level1Techs all immediately come to mind.

2018-05-04 13:01:22 UTC

The last one focuses on tech news more than the first two but the first two definitely either have some serious insight into things. News just isn't their main focus.

2018-05-04 13:02:04 UTC

I like science news too

2018-05-04 13:02:06 UTC

I haven't really dug into the site yet but I've been following torrentfreak for years too.

2018-05-04 13:02:31 UTC

Everything I gave you is primarily based around technology and the like.

2018-05-04 13:02:46 UTC

Where the focus is more on information than entertainment.

2018-05-04 13:04:16 UTC

the verge did a story about the first male penis transplant... which is amazing science, I'm totally psyched about stuff like that... but in the comments I made an ... well.. ok unfunny joke... saying "if he masturbates, does that make him gay" ... so they banned me πŸ˜› fair enough i guess

2018-05-04 13:05:26 UTC

but they dont mess around ... no warning, no removal of the post with a caution .. just straight up immediate ban

2018-05-04 13:06:19 UTC

There's also uh.. Dave Cullen of Computing Forever (another youtube channel) who I find ends up being insightful when he *does* talk about technology and the like.

2018-05-04 13:06:37 UTC

Though he's a conservative who usually talks about things relating to politics soooo YMMV.

2018-05-04 13:06:51 UTC

yeah ive seen some of his videos

2018-05-04 13:40:52 UTC

no offense intended
but @wacka you arent valuable enough for them to waste their time to check if you will be a good boi from now on.. and yes it makes him gay, unless the penis originally came from a trap, in which case he would be 100% streight

2018-05-04 13:41:09 UTC

straight?

2018-05-04 13:41:11 UTC

Mmmmm.

2018-05-04 13:41:12 UTC

whatever

2018-05-04 13:41:12 UTC

More like.

2018-05-04 13:43:08 UTC

heh.. it was 4yrs ago.. Im over it now πŸ˜ƒ

2018-05-04 13:45:11 UTC

or 3yrs ago... oh just checked... it was on my birthday too....

2018-05-04 13:46:55 UTC

Happy birthday!

2018-05-04 13:47:09 UTC

march 13th

2018-05-04 13:47:27 UTC

oh.. I wonder how the media will respond to the news that just came out...

2018-05-04 13:47:43 UTC

unemployment dropped below 4% in the US

2018-05-04 13:47:59 UTC

first time in 18yrs πŸ˜ƒ

2018-05-04 13:52:15 UTC

i know this one

2018-05-04 13:52:20 UTC

obama legacy

2018-05-04 13:53:12 UTC

obviously.... the bad stuff was trump .. and the good stuff was obama

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