the whole structure of public education needs to be restructured. Too many quotas, not enough being taught how to teach one's self and learn things on their own

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They dont teach people how to study anymore

how to think

they teach what to think, not how to think

how to seek their own conclusions, etc.

yep

which is not exactly bad for the state.

I was lucky enough that I had proffs in college that actually did teach How

for the most part, i think most teachers want to actually teach how to think, not what to think

def

i had great teachers in high school, and good professors in college. But i consider myself extremely lucky in that respect

same

probably a bonus from going to small schools and seeking out a college that was on the smaller side

i did have one college course that seemed to attempt to teach What to think though

i only had to take that one course though so i never saw it again

i was a history and poly-sci major and luckily those profs where good about teaching how not what

yea

the thing that is probably most disgusting is history. That is a subject who's whole foundation is built on how to find out the truth about the past, and its always "this is EXACTLY what happened, no questions." Rarely is history we are taught right outside the major "so a thing happened".

and by how in my experience i mean that they presented info and essentially said "you dont have to agree with this or believe this, etc. but you need to learn how to talk/write about it if that makes sense

oh def i had more flexibility in Poly-Sci than history

on the history side it was very much about learning how to research

History is interesting in that we are constantly changing what is taught based on the findings to come

the advantage of a computer science degree, much like math degrees. There is a right answer, and a set of rules. Learn the basic rules, you will find the right answer. There are better and more efficient ways of getting there, but if you follow the rules, you will find it even if you use shortcuts you learn along the way.

yea

Primary sources are a big deal in History because they are the most reliable

in comp sci, you have no choice BUT to learn how to look up the solutions to your problems. Because that is the foundation of it and its a subject where everyone is incredibly lazy, i'm sorry, i mean efficient, so no one wants to reinvent the wheel,

lol

so they dont innovate?

oh, they innovate.... when they fail to find someone with the solution already

I have a lot of respect for Archeologists because they are on the ground actively finding our history

ah

lol

usually its "well, this way works.... but i want/need to fit it in a less powerful package. Anyone figure out how to do that yet?" *research* "No? fuck. Well, how can i take shortcuts to save processing power requirements"

mind you even they cant find everythign

lol

http://www.businessinsider.com/describe-programming-in-five-words-challenge-goes-viral-2018-4

read those tweets. i have said every single one of them at one point or another.

that is being a comp-sci person in a nutshell

"meat telling sand to think" lol

"error: expected `url::Url` found `url::Url`"

this basically an exact error i have gotten, and it is maddening

lol

how?

Usually a case of having two different things with the same name

ah

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

>Secret service bans gun from nra convention while the VP is there
>Everyone things it's the NRA banning the guns at their convention

sigh

Parkland survivors wonder why they won't ban guns to protect children?

Guess what. The vice-president is going to be protected

By guns.

They don't want armed people in their schools, even if they're good guys with guns.

There in lies the difference.

Secret service is handling any security needs while pence is in the building

Where as the Parkland survivors (on TV) just want all law abiding citizens disarmed. :/

I swear the ignorance is willful.

I hope it is.

Because if they're genuinely the ones aiming to run things and they're that dumb, we're in trouble.

Schools are already (under federal law if I’m not mistaken) “gun free” zones. Problem solved!

The problem with Hanlon's Razor is that, after you start using it, you start to realize idiocy is sometimes worse than malice.

Unfortunately, idiocy seems to be something that is at a minimum, tolerated in education today, and at worst, encouraged. “Feelz” are more important than reality and logic.

I say we're 10 years out from watering our plants with Gatorade.

LOL. I never heard that concept before, but I guess it makes sense. If Gatorade is good for people then it must be good for plants.

It's what plants crave! (tm)

https://youtu.be/GFD2ggNxR1g

What I'm referencing.

danm ya know i need to watch that

its sad but funny in movie context

Idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy, not a documentary. 1984 was supposed to be satire, not a handbook.

1984 was a warning, not satire.

I mean, it's less Pence banning guns and more Pence saying "if you bring guns I'm not showing up to speak"

the Parkland students are free to do the same. They're 100% in their rights to not show up to speak to a crowd of armed people

it's less Pence saying 'If you bring guns I'm not showing up to speak' and more Secret Service regulations.

It's not like all guns are banned. The secret service still has them.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/04/30/de-avg-en-haar-belgische-uitvoeringswet/

article in dutch about the european privacy laws and how they affect belgian reporters in there inability to report the facts

a person would be able to request that an interview he gave ages ago should be scrapped from the public record, or prevent important journalistic discoveries from comming out by using this law

target: social media
acceptable causalities: Gaming, News, Scientific Research

Id imagine most of us are like this. If we are in trustworthy company, we wouldnt mind giving up some liberties for the time being. Afterall, its Pence.

We allow ourselves to be vulnerable in the company of trusted individuals

@GinsomniacgaBomber#6296 as someone alluded to above, it’s a Secret Service thing (and less a trust thing IMHO). The Secret Service’s job is to protect the President & VP. I don’t think that they can afford to trust anyone (NRA included).

Hello

When in doubt, throw money at Tim until he gives us a discord link

So, how's everyone doing tonight?

Okay

howdy Poolies

is this the cool pool party for the cool kids at my school?

The Tim Pool Cool Kid Pool Party

Noice!

lol what is this tard paying 5 bucks to whine that tim is a millimeter off of far left

wait.. new people?

petition to change the name of the server from subverse to "The Tim Pool Cool Kid Pool Party"

lmao, I was the loser who paid Tim $5 for a discord link

Where did he hand it out?

and it's been public

he's posted it on videos and live streams

you got ripped

But Tim needs the support so no biggie 😃

I just hadn't found it before that <:blobwink:396521731658874891>

its been open for months

its not very active to be quite honest

*I totally looked before asking. That's a thing I did*

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or we could be the lobster bucket!

tim pool doesnt look ilke he is driving his lambo off the discord links so far

Looks like some military kinship is happening in the chats

to be fair, he has been absolute rubbish in advertising it.

its like he is ashamed of us. Perhaps for good reason.

pretty much

lol

he comes in here every once in a while just to make sure his minions are keeping the peace and then closes the door behidn him

😛

discord has probs

work from home they said
its better than taking a sick day they said

oh and he's streaming and has been an hour

so, anyone here follow the maddox/dick masterson lolsuit?

i

has the lawsuit ended?

not yet, I think

wat is it rage

i can't imagine who maddox's fans are at this point

i hide under rocks

do lawsuits ever end? they always seem to drag on forever

here is a summary of just the legal shenanigans around it:
https://youtu.be/m-bHbf2RvnI?t=1020

maddox should have stuck to being known for his words on the screen

it just gets more crazy the more you dig into it

Dax has the radio gig on lockdown tho

I really miss a time when I get out of class and i'm excited to get home because the biggest problem in the universe is fresh

i followed that thing from the very begininning

have you watched the uncucked episodes?

it really sucked to see it shut down

what do you mean?

uncucked?

Dick released the old episodes, uncut

is that a specific thing?

oh wow

i want to!

he's putting out 10 of the episodes per week

including episode 17 which has the clip maddox used to insinuate that he was a rape apologist

lol well thanks for the link

biggest trademark in the universe LMAO=

finally can say i'm done with work for today. yaaay. only 3 hours after work technically ended

@RageScholar if you are into that you might like this channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_YnD-BO8ctnKgUW89Si6Q

rekieta's channel is awesome even without the lolsuit stuff. it's really interesting to see lawsuits broken down

you know Ethics Instead?

no

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUgb_XXjQlc2HDZT8NFDpbw/videos?disable_polymer=1

if you are into law and stuff this has been very interesting

as an aside, are there any rules aside from the general "Don't be a fucking prick"

these two guys are amazing holding frame and exposing what is really going on

https://youtu.be/YgHw2aLGJd0

Opened the link, saw the length of the video, immediately gave up.

there doesn't appear to be any rules, or atleast it was at the discretion of the mods... but I haven't seen our one moderator here for a while

Free speech.

lol it's called skipping through to see what it is

Works for me

Free Speech Absolutism = Objectively Correct

at most I've had one or two posts removed

If someone is saying something you don't like, man up and challenge it.

If they don't fight on reasonable terms

Don't fight on resonable terms.

If they're being obnoxious in shitposting and you think they've got an aversion to 'degeneracy', @ aktricast.

:D

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Lmao

Also, if anyone asks you to point out where you fall under the Nuremberg Laws, know that they've lost the argument.

:D

What if it's a pug asking though?

that's it, LOCK HIM UP

we got a wild one boys

To the gulags with you

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<:Stalin:341776856078483468>

I suppose I should have learned to pilot a helicopter instead.

Fuel pays for itself.

Just gotta learn how to convert the impact force into electrical energy

Interestingly enough, I'm actually working on an application of converting impact force into electricity for my day job.

Well, it seems like the solution to the world's energy needs has made itself clear

the earth has all the energy we could ever need don't listen to any lies that say there isn't enough

Unfortunately not, the ratio of commies and fascists to middle-of-the-road types is just too low for that to work.

@Pretentieux the trouble is energy distribution

Storage and distribution @Dawlben

@Smartyrdom yeap

would it be odd if there were a connection between freemasons 500 years ago and the UN now?

A connection isn't a causal relation.

^

what have you just stated though?

I've take like 5 different political tests and they put me in the middle with a slight towards libertarian and left

You can connect anything to anything with enough mental gymnastics, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

lol it isn't mental gymnastics

they use the same symbols

It's like stating "The US founding fathers were members of the Freemasons, therefore America is run by the Freemasons"

https://youtu.be/fSNU-jlHkDs

but most of those symbols have been in use for similar ideas for over 1000 years

Symbols don't prove anything tbh

yes there is a lot of history on this earth

@Dugamar not all of them

never stop searching

that's why i like you people

I'm a skeptic in that I take the stand of neither belief nor doubt

I prefer to listen to a person's beliefs rather than assume their associations based on loose symbology

Walter Veith will pretty well spell it out for you that the UN is a product of masonic idol worship

The null hypothesis is a methodological concept for a reason.

Also, as someone who was a Mason for a while, I can tell you with reasonble certainty that they're just about as dangerous as the Illuminati.

you can keep acting as if you are superior for never actually letting yourself believe anything

It's not about superiority, I'm just not easily convinced unless there is really strong evidence to support a claim.

talking about supposed "Realists"?

It's like don't get me wrong, I have my own reasons to not like the US.

@Smartyrdom do you believe in quantum mechanics?

Relations to the Freemasons aren't one of them

lmao

if you pretend to know so much how do you not know that the whole thing is a sham anyway?

I don't really "believe" per se, but the mathematical predictions and experiment reliably align. @Dawlben

there are no accidents and politics is a play

@Smartyrdom do you study the stuff?

the west has been trained to literally worship actors (LIARS)

I just have a few books on it on my shelf. I wouldn't say I'm an expert.

is it any surprisie this is what we see

I think I'd rather apply a healthy dose of Harlon's razor

*Hanlon's

Well, my point is mute now

ok let me hit you with a question

@Smartyrdom so you're believing in what someone else has told you is true

Time to end my life or something

lol

Just in case someone wanted to google it because they didn't know what you were referring to.

do you believe that in the 1960s some guys went up to the moon and drove around on a little buggy?

I've worked the math and done some of the experiments, they hold up.

If there was a better explanation, I would take it.

I don't believe that our government is capable of covering something like that up

if you will believe that, the rest of the lies are easy

you are a useful idiot

not saying you as to blame you

just the saying

Besides, if the government was as malicious as you say, would you even be alive?

My money's on no.

where does that reasoning stand?

If you were right, they would've executed you.

Rocketry is way easier than a good number of engineering applications we experience day in and out, though.

Any looser with 20k to blow can get a satellite into orbit

https://kek.gg/i/4FdV4P.jpg

there is no such thing as orbit

But of course, that's all part of the conspiracy

Riddle me GPS systems then.

The number of people needed to keep these things secret, it's statistically unlikely that there aren't leaks all the time.

it's not hard with numbskulls like you!

😅

I just don't knock someone else's beliefs unless there is something to show it is false or just so utterly complicated that it makes no sense

Explain how GPS works.

GPS systems also are an interesting practical application of general relativity. Which I know better than tiny scale quantum stuff.