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2018-02-01 05:02:51 UTC

it can go in any direction

2018-02-01 05:02:53 UTC

it doesnt matter

2018-02-01 05:03:45 UTC

It's sounds like they hate their own race right. I just love my own race more than other races I don't hate any other races so again tell me who I am hateful and more racist then these people?

2018-02-01 05:04:10 UTC

"these people"

2018-02-01 05:04:18 UTC

what do you mean by that

2018-02-01 05:05:23 UTC


2018-02-01 05:05:35 UTC

how does it feel to be a school shooter :^)

2018-02-01 05:05:39 UTC

You used the word people to so I don't know much about them more then that they are black and that they hate themsleves so what am I supposed to call them?

2018-02-01 05:06:00 UTC

at no point did i say they hated themselves

2018-02-01 05:06:24 UTC

A distrust of people with outgroup phenotypes IS actually something hardwired into the human psyche, I can grant that.

2018-02-01 05:06:25 UTC

i said they were racist againt black people

2018-02-01 05:06:29 UTC

That's what racist means.

2018-02-01 05:07:02 UTC

What is so wrong with White people wanting to be left alone, Ping?

2018-02-01 05:07:15 UTC

Nothing wrong with that.

2018-02-01 05:07:35 UTC

The line gets crossed when you start trying to demand others leave.

2018-02-01 05:07:46 UTC

That is what we want. We want our own countires for oursleves.

2018-02-01 05:07:55 UTC

Then buy a damned island.

2018-02-01 05:08:11 UTC

Why can't we have the west?

2018-02-01 05:08:23 UTC

Because the majority of the white people in the west

2018-02-01 05:08:29 UTC

think that what you're suggesting

2018-02-01 05:08:33 UTC

is disgusting.

2018-02-01 05:08:45 UTC

Because in order for you to get what you want

2018-02-01 05:08:49 UTC

Becasue they have been brainwashed to hate themsleves.

2018-02-01 05:09:00 UTC

No, that's bullshit.

2018-02-01 05:09:11 UTC

You're the one acting like a god-damned cultist, m8.

2018-02-01 05:09:40 UTC

You've taken that outgroup distrust, that holdover from tribal days

2018-02-01 05:09:42 UTC

Pretty much the only way to get what you want is for some kind of genocide to happen. People won’t leave willingly and they will use violence to stay.

2018-02-01 05:09:45 UTC

and you've built a god damned church out of it.

2018-02-01 05:09:51 UTC


2018-02-01 05:09:53 UTC

is a left wing rag

2018-02-01 05:10:12 UTC

Yes it's white people who hate themsleves right?

2018-02-01 05:10:12 UTC

@RyeNorth - The goal of White Nationalists is to convince as many White people as possible to share in this preference, because of how it will benefit them and their children. If you think it is presently a military or economic possibility that any small group of White Nationalists could peacefully secede, then you are not arguing in good faith.

2018-02-01 05:10:13 UTC

I didn't even have to read it past Huffingtonpost.com

2018-02-01 05:10:37 UTC

Violence is inevitable, I fear.

2018-02-01 05:11:18 UTC

There's going to be violence if we don't have white areas for oursleves.

2018-02-01 05:11:31 UTC

Whether the alt right/'whites' actually get their ethnostate, or they passively allow themselves to be outbred until they become a minority in their own country, which is particularly destructive when islam is involved.
Violence is going to happen, either way.

2018-02-01 05:11:49 UTC

@GS most white people don't give a shit and don't want a white ethno state

2018-02-01 05:12:06 UTC

i'm fine if white nationalists made their own nation

2018-02-01 05:12:09 UTC

@ping their argument is that majority is not right

2018-02-01 05:12:09 UTC

@ping - They will not be White people for much longer.

2018-02-01 05:12:13 UTC

Becasue they hate themsleves becasue of propergand.

2018-02-01 05:12:27 UTC

And no, they don't 'hate themselves'

2018-02-01 05:12:47 UTC

What do yo think the artical I shared with you is?

2018-02-01 05:12:54 UTC

A left wing rag.

2018-02-01 05:12:56 UTC

We've been over that

2018-02-01 05:12:58 UTC

@Deleted User Never heard of this "propergand" of which you speak

2018-02-01 05:13:12 UTC

Writen by a white person who hates their race.

2018-02-01 05:13:19 UTC

Oh, sure, absolutely.

2018-02-01 05:13:20 UTC

They exist

2018-02-01 05:13:24 UTC

So, there isn't a massive media and social left wing anti-white campaign going on right now?

2018-02-01 05:13:27 UTC

But you're talking like they're the majority

2018-02-01 05:14:05 UTC

Meanwhile, Donald Trump got the majority of white women to vote for him.

2018-02-01 05:14:22 UTC

@GS wdym they won't be white people for much longer? there are still plenty of cities that are 90+% white, white people are never going away

2018-02-01 05:14:32 UTC

Do you people consider yourselves left-wing?

2018-02-01 05:14:37 UTC


2018-02-01 05:14:42 UTC

Conservative libertarian

2018-02-01 05:14:54 UTC

I'm a national tardist

2018-02-01 05:15:02 UTC

Actually, for the most part, I do. Well, center left, not really "left wing" per se.

2018-02-01 05:15:13 UTC

I don’t hate my race but personally I’d like to be defined by more than the color of my skin. Individual merit > race.

2018-02-01 05:15:23 UTC


2018-02-01 05:15:24 UTC

^ ^ ^

2018-02-01 05:15:31 UTC

@ping London is almost majorty non white now the large cities are becoming non white in western countires.

2018-02-01 05:15:34 UTC

I would too.

2018-02-01 05:15:35 UTC

And which of you are White/European?

2018-02-01 05:15:37 UTC

who cares about london

2018-02-01 05:16:14 UTC

Because if you are not White then you really have no business speaking of how Whites conduct themselves.

2018-02-01 05:16:27 UTC

London is the largest city in the UK.

2018-02-01 05:16:33 UTC

Isn't that what BLM says to white people about black people?

2018-02-01 05:16:42 UTC

@Deleted User Nobody here will argue in favor of mass immigration I don't think.

2018-02-01 05:17:02 UTC

@JadenFrostwolf - I agree with them.

2018-02-01 05:17:19 UTC

Even if you don't white people will still be a minority in their own countires. If the current trends keep going on.

2018-02-01 05:17:26 UTC

europe is too small and dense for you to achieve isolation

2018-02-01 05:17:50 UTC

countries are constantly giving visas to people in high demand fields

2018-02-01 05:17:59 UTC

I don't want Isolation I want white countires for white people.

2018-02-01 05:18:05 UTC

then make one

2018-02-01 05:18:09 UTC

start in your backyard

2018-02-01 05:18:10 UTC

My particular issue is with islam in specific, and this question is never answered, but I will pose it again.
What do you think will happen when muslims become the majority in western countries?

2018-02-01 05:18:20 UTC

You are speaking of the status quo like it is not what we are aiming to change in the first place.

2018-02-01 05:18:21 UTC

not enough white people actually want to make a country just for white people

2018-02-01 05:18:25 UTC

@GS As someone pale as the damn moon outside my window, I have the right, by your standards, to tell you that if 'white people' are going to dictate to 'black people' that they have to leave the US or face extermination, then how 'white people' conduct themselves absolutely concerns everyone.

2018-02-01 05:18:50 UTC


2018-02-01 05:19:02 UTC

Becasue our opions are cenored so people don't get to hear them.

2018-02-01 05:19:04 UTC

white people eradicated slavery

2018-02-01 05:19:09 UTC

What you said does not make sense.

2018-02-01 05:19:24 UTC

what's preventing white people from undermining your white ethnostate

2018-02-01 05:19:27 UTC


2018-02-01 05:19:28 UTC

Your opinions shouldn't be censored, I agree there, aussie.

2018-02-01 05:19:48 UTC

minority opinions will always be censored to a degree

2018-02-01 05:20:08 UTC

but i have to admit the white nationalists /alt-right are explicitly censored

2018-02-01 05:20:34 UTC

I think we should do what Isreal is doing.

2018-02-01 05:20:42 UTC

like i don't know any progressives that can articulate even close to the same ideas you are

2018-02-01 05:21:24 UTC

What right do non whites have to stay in our countires?

2018-02-01 05:21:25 UTC

They are illegals so yes they should leave @Deleted User.

2018-02-01 05:21:34 UTC

I'm not a big fan of the alt right in a lot of ways, but I have to admit that the "make your own ethnostate" argument is just utter nonsense. How? Where? Aside from maybe a couple of islands out in the middle of nowhere, what landmass is there left unclaimed?

2018-02-01 05:21:47 UTC

and even if you did

2018-02-01 05:21:53 UTC

massive upfront cost

2018-02-01 05:21:55 UTC

no money

2018-02-01 05:22:01 UTC

even if you got money

2018-02-01 05:22:11 UTC

It's just not possible by any measure.

2018-02-01 05:22:13 UTC

how are you going to compete with the asians and indians that are hard working

2018-02-01 05:22:22 UTC


2018-02-01 05:22:26 UTC

indians are technically asian

2018-02-01 05:22:31 UTC

but w/e

2018-02-01 05:22:36 UTC

Unless you're talking about Mars. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-02-01 05:22:39 UTC
2018-02-01 05:22:42 UTC


2018-02-01 05:23:03 UTC

We can get them to leave with a passport buyback scheme.

2018-02-01 05:23:04 UTC


2018-02-01 05:23:13 UTC

just by implementing a white ethnostate

2018-02-01 05:23:21 UTC

you lose out on an insane number of doctors

2018-02-01 05:23:23 UTC

Can you at least come up with a word that isn't "scheme." lol

2018-02-01 05:23:44 UTC

Passport buyback scam?

2018-02-01 05:23:47 UTC

and a good chunk of the computer science field

2018-02-01 05:23:53 UTC

Why should white countires have non white doctors when whites can have good doctors.

2018-02-01 05:23:55 UTC

It isn't "scheme" :kappa:

2018-02-01 05:24:01 UTC

Well, technically speaking, 'scheme' is the correct term I suppose.

2018-02-01 05:24:04 UTC

because whites aren't good doctors lmfao

2018-02-01 05:24:14 UTC

(using your own collectivist logic sparingly)

2018-02-01 05:24:26 UTC

Uhh... sauce?

2018-02-01 05:24:33 UTC

one sec

2018-02-01 05:24:42 UTC

I haven't heard that one before.

2018-02-01 05:24:47 UTC

Which race made most of the medical advancements again it wasn't asians.

2018-02-01 05:26:38 UTC

i mean that doesn't matter

2018-02-01 05:26:47 UTC

The thing is white countires can give incentives to non white to leave and have a white only immigration policy.

2018-02-01 05:27:01 UTC

if you only cared about the top end research then we should all just make a jewstate

2018-02-01 05:27:32 UTC

what matters is getting people that are competent at their job

2018-02-01 05:27:39 UTC

It sounds fine, and optimistically speaking, I'm sure many would take the incentives, but not even close to all of them. I don't think it would only be a "small minority" that wouldn't leave, either.

2018-02-01 05:27:43 UTC

Aussie, again, you're arguing this from a different entry point

2018-02-01 05:27:43 UTC

What do you do then?

2018-02-01 05:27:58 UTC

There is a jews state there are black states, there are asian states but there are no states for whites to go to are there?

2018-02-01 05:28:02 UTC

When all you're considering is race

2018-02-01 05:28:06 UTC

you forget the obvious answer

2018-02-01 05:28:11 UTC

glaring right back at you

2018-02-01 05:28:14 UTC

Regional culture.

2018-02-01 05:28:39 UTC

If you want to argue that Western culture is superior

2018-02-01 05:28:52 UTC

Yes whites have enough problems so why bring in non whites to to case more problems?

2018-02-01 05:29:14 UTC

cause more problems*

2018-02-01 05:29:32 UTC

Ireland for exsample. North and south.

2018-02-01 05:29:39 UTC

"there are no states for whites to go" Iceland?

2018-02-01 05:30:07 UTC

Ping, as far as europe goes, there's a point for identitarian movements.

2018-02-01 05:30:23 UTC

Actually, Iceland has an extremely strict immigration policy. It's almost impossible for anyone to get in.

2018-02-01 05:30:45 UTC

They're absolutely inundated with mass immigration, the death sentence of culture.

2018-02-01 05:31:00 UTC

For now what about when they start becoming multicultural like other white countires?

2018-02-01 05:31:20 UTC

i mean i don't agree with mass immigration but identitarians aren't the solution

2018-02-01 05:31:26 UTC

You're using SJW language, aussie.

2018-02-01 05:31:40 UTC

just stop mass immigration and mitigate the damage it has caused

2018-02-01 05:31:50 UTC

Then what is? just let your people die out.

2018-02-01 05:31:50 UTC

Multiculturalism isn't the problem. Importing culture is.

2018-02-01 05:32:08 UTC

Having several layers of culture underneath one overarching one

2018-02-01 05:32:12 UTC

that's not a problem AT ALL

2018-02-01 05:32:26 UTC

Multiracialism is the bigger problem.

2018-02-01 05:32:29 UTC

@RyeNorth It isn' teven importing culture that's the problem. That can be healthy in small doses. The problem in Europe is that they're overdosing on importing culture, to the point where their own culture is being shunted out.

2018-02-01 05:32:33 UTC

Except when the overarching/predominant one isn't being respected.

2018-02-01 05:32:41 UTC

Agreed, Revan.

2018-02-01 05:32:54 UTC

Multiracialism isn't a problem at all

2018-02-01 05:32:56 UTC


2018-02-01 05:33:21 UTC

And even then, not all cultures are equal. There is a difference between getting millions of migrants from, say, Chaina, and then getting millions of migrants from the middle east.

2018-02-01 05:33:21 UTC

Do you have race riots in Japan?

2018-02-01 05:33:24 UTC

The problem is when other races aren't incentivized to partake of the host culture

2018-02-01 05:33:38 UTC


2018-02-01 05:34:10 UTC

How will you do that @RyeNorth?

2018-02-01 05:34:30 UTC

And what do you do with people that refuse to partake?

2018-02-01 05:34:33 UTC

Through controls on actual LEGAL immigration

2018-02-01 05:35:10 UTC

What's to stop the legal immigrants from cheating on a test?

2018-02-01 05:35:21 UTC

One of the fastest ways to integrate people into an existing culture is to get them out of the house. This means getting them to work instead of just giving them welfare.

2018-02-01 05:35:31 UTC

^ ^ ^ this, Revan.

2018-02-01 05:35:36 UTC

I'm liking your points.

2018-02-01 05:35:47 UTC

What do you do with the people alread here?

2018-02-01 05:36:02 UTC

Let's take the US for instance

2018-02-01 05:36:15 UTC

Ideally, we'd return anyone who is here illegally.

2018-02-01 05:36:40 UTC

I'm in favor of a decaying welfare system, where the longer you spend not working, the lower your welfare payments get. Unfortunately, that's complicated, and most governments wouldn't go for it even though it would mean massive cost savings.

2018-02-01 05:36:47 UTC

Ah, but people don't like the optics involved with removing millions of illegal immigrants and dragging them away back to their countries.

2018-02-01 05:37:03 UTC

I sure as hell wouldn't suggest that we rewrite the legality of who can be here and who can't, based on racial divide.

2018-02-01 05:37:18 UTC

If you ended the welfare state alot of people will go back home right.

2018-02-01 05:37:34 UTC

'go back home'.

2018-02-01 05:37:35 UTC

I think that would be the best answer, yeah.

2018-02-01 05:37:51 UTC

To the middle east, africa, ect.

2018-02-01 05:37:53 UTC

A lot of illegals seem to be here because they can get free money from the welfare system, from what I've read online

2018-02-01 05:37:56 UTC

For those who are here illegally, that is.

2018-02-01 05:38:07 UTC

Basically we all agree on most of it just not the end goal.

2018-02-01 05:38:09 UTC

The fastest way to get rid of the ones that don't truly want to be here would be to cut off their welfare checks

2018-02-01 05:38:09 UTC

I know that, revan

2018-02-01 05:38:24 UTC

He's suggesting that black people would 'go back' to africa if we cut welfare.

2018-02-01 05:38:43 UTC

They would get jobs not go to Africa.

2018-02-01 05:38:46 UTC

No, that wouldn't work. Most of them can't afford to get to Africa

2018-02-01 05:38:48 UTC

Alot of blacks will yes.

2018-02-01 05:38:57 UTC


2018-02-01 05:39:00 UTC

that's fucking stupid

2018-02-01 05:39:05 UTC

Nah I don’t see it happening.

2018-02-01 05:39:14 UTC

You're a bit more optimistic about that than I would be. lol

2018-02-01 05:39:31 UTC

The problem with poverty is when you become comfortable in it

2018-02-01 05:39:37 UTC

With Europe alot of the so called asslym seekers are justing going there for money.

2018-02-01 05:39:49 UTC

Oh absolutely, Aussie

2018-02-01 05:39:50 UTC

Or dependent on the welfare state because you're a single parent.

2018-02-01 05:39:55 UTC

but you're talking about two different things.

2018-02-01 05:40:02 UTC

The blacks in the United States

2018-02-01 05:40:12 UTC

have generations going back as far as the whites in the united states often times

2018-02-01 05:40:23 UTC

There’s a difference between asylum seekers and black Americans who were born in the US along with their parents and grandparents.

2018-02-01 05:40:25 UTC

Yeah, most of the black people in the U.S. are descended from the slaves that were brought in

2018-02-01 05:40:27 UTC

poor blacks in the US would go to canada or mexico lmfao

2018-02-01 05:40:33 UTC

or just you know

2018-02-01 05:40:35 UTC

Yes some blacks in America will need other incentives to leave.

2018-02-01 05:40:43 UTC

we could not waste time making an ethnostate

2018-02-01 05:40:46 UTC

Many blacks have as much as about a 25% European background?

2018-02-01 05:40:46 UTC

They won’t leave.

2018-02-01 05:40:50 UTC

In the US.

2018-02-01 05:41:28 UTC

If we gave them a reason to they would.

2018-02-01 05:41:29 UTC

If you told me you were going to be trading out our current Welfare system in such a way that it promotes the nuclear family in the black community

2018-02-01 05:41:35 UTC

I'd be all for that

2018-02-01 05:41:44 UTC


2018-02-01 05:41:50 UTC

At some point you will be forced to purge people to get an ethnostate. Most people don’t leave without a fight.

2018-02-01 05:42:05 UTC

If you told me you were going to extract all black people and drop them in a third world country to fend for themselves

2018-02-01 05:42:07 UTC

I'd take arms.

2018-02-01 05:42:29 UTC


2018-02-01 05:42:36 UTC

But you wouldn't be sloving the problem. The problem is non whites are in white countires.

2018-02-01 05:42:38 UTC

@RyeNorth I think maybe that, mixed with a "We will pay for you to move to Africa if you believe you would prefer it there" on the condition that they can't re-immigrate to the U.S., for those who just don't want to bother with the nuclear family.

2018-02-01 05:43:03 UTC

I'd be leery about that, even.

2018-02-01 05:43:21 UTC

until you realize a lot of non white people are patriotic too and wouldn't leave their home for a million dollars

2018-02-01 05:43:22 UTC

If a private company made the offer, I'd be more okay with it, kinda

2018-02-01 05:43:25 UTC

It's not a perfect idea, but there are some black people who honestly think they would be better off in Africa

2018-02-01 05:43:30 UTC


2018-02-01 05:43:33 UTC

Why can't whites have their own countries? Give me a reason.

2018-02-01 05:43:34 UTC

how much fucking money do you have

2018-02-01 05:43:43 UTC

@Deleted User nobody said they couldnt

2018-02-01 05:43:48 UTC

go move to iceland

2018-02-01 05:43:48 UTC

^ ^ ^

2018-02-01 05:43:49 UTC


2018-02-01 05:43:58 UTC

@Deleted User not saying they can’t but the US is not the place to do it.

2018-02-01 05:44:06 UTC

^ ^ ^

2018-02-01 05:44:20 UTC

Then why are you trying to make white countires non white?

2018-02-01 05:44:21 UTC

Poland should keep up the good fight

2018-02-01 05:44:25 UTC

we're all fucking rooting for them

2018-02-01 05:44:26 UTC

There's very nearly a small white ethnostate in the far Northeast corner of the U.S.

2018-02-01 05:44:29 UTC


2018-02-01 05:44:30 UTC

Maine is 94% white

2018-02-01 05:44:36 UTC

Why are you rooting for Poland?

2018-02-01 05:44:37 UTC

Moral or not it’s completely unrealistic.

2018-02-01 05:44:50 UTC

Because they're defending their borders.

2018-02-01 05:45:05 UTC

allowing multiple races into a country doesn't mean i don't think a white nation should exist

2018-02-01 05:45:12 UTC

Why can't America be American?

2018-02-01 05:45:18 UTC

It is.

2018-02-01 05:45:21 UTC

it is

2018-02-01 05:45:26 UTC

American =/= white.

2018-02-01 05:45:28 UTC


2018-02-01 05:45:30 UTC


2018-02-01 05:45:31 UTC

Poland knows better than most European countries the value of well-defended and enforced borders

2018-02-01 05:45:40 UTC

yes Americans are white.

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