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2018-01-27 01:03:27 UTC

Fucking keyboard

2018-01-27 01:03:36 UTC

Obviously.

2018-01-27 01:04:00 UTC

I dont get it, the only proof of that came from another article

2018-01-27 01:04:04 UTC

that one did not post any

2018-01-27 01:04:09 UTC

well links

2018-01-27 01:04:14 UTC

Yeah.

2018-01-27 01:04:15 UTC

Hmm.

2018-01-27 01:04:22 UTC

The bakery is a business. The couple didnโ€™t go around posting the Bakerโ€™s personal address. Naming and shaming a business is different from posting a private citizenโ€™s personal address

2018-01-27 01:05:01 UTC

The effect is the same.

2018-01-27 01:05:22 UTC

Get back to the discussion,

2018-01-27 01:05:29 UTC

did the bakery actually post their info online?

2018-01-27 01:05:32 UTC

Not really, one makes your work life shit, the other makes your personal life shit

2018-01-27 01:05:35 UTC

And did the harrasment take place

2018-01-27 01:05:49 UTC

Because the two are separate things?

2018-01-27 01:05:56 UTC

Especially for a small family-owned business?

2018-01-27 01:06:02 UTC

tbh with todays moral police, social media outrage will ruin your personal life even if your work life did it

2018-01-27 01:06:08 UTC

And well, what was stopping the couple from finding another non christian bakery?

2018-01-27 01:06:34 UTC

but im off, its 2:06 at night, so good luck discussing gay bakers

2018-01-27 01:06:38 UTC

I agree, they shouldnโ€™t bother giving their business to assholes who would refuse it

2018-01-27 01:07:25 UTC

they shouldn't bother

2018-01-27 01:07:31 UTC

they should be adults and find a different baker

2018-01-27 01:07:39 UTC

And so they posted a vocal public review against the bakery for refusing service. Thereโ€™s nothing wrong with that

2018-01-27 01:07:46 UTC

for every 1 baker that chooses not to bake their cake, there are 800 more who will

2018-01-27 01:08:03 UTC

The lawsuit only happened because their address got posted

2018-01-27 01:08:15 UTC

just like places that don't want to hold gay weddings, for every place that doesn't there are 800 more that will

2018-01-27 01:08:20 UTC

Then where did the damages come from if they didnt sue the bakery?

2018-01-27 01:08:33 UTC

Who sued the bakery?

2018-01-27 01:09:11 UTC

The couple sued because the Bakery posted their info in response to a scathing bad review they left after the couple was denied service

2018-01-27 01:09:21 UTC

And where is the proof that happened?

2018-01-27 01:09:42 UTC

The only info I got was a personal FB account, no screenshots of it.

2018-01-27 01:10:03 UTC

A link to another article, that claimed the info was posted on one of the owners personal FB accounts

2018-01-27 01:10:14 UTC

The link for where they filed the complaint doesn't work for me.

2018-01-27 01:10:32 UTC

I'll probably look more into it some other time.

2018-01-27 01:10:39 UTC

see...that's where the bakery is in the wrong, they shouldn't have done that, I do't agree with them doing that if that's true. They have the right to leave the review.

2018-01-27 01:11:45 UTC

Hence why the question is whether they did it or not

2018-01-27 01:17:19 UTC

Then again, its just the McDonalds coffe incident, rather not want to talk anymore about this.

2018-01-27 01:18:45 UTC

Yeah.

2018-01-27 04:21:23 UTC

Tim: throwing shit at your friends to save your own ass is (((allegedly))) a crummy thing to do

2018-01-27 04:23:54 UTC

Didnโ€™t you hear, they were never friends tho

2018-01-27 04:37:46 UTC

betraying the country is crummy too

2018-01-27 05:02:18 UTC

I forget what Manning leaked.

2018-01-27 05:42:25 UTC

Millitary confidential stuff last I heard.

2018-01-27 05:42:36 UTC

Then again, snowden did do that as well.

2018-01-27 05:42:57 UTC

So depends on what was being leaked, if it was something closer to current conflict, then it is crummy.

2018-01-27 06:19:18 UTC

If youโ€™re leaking classified information about our government violating human rights (such as the surveillance state violating our right to privacy) itโ€™s not really you betraying your country. Iโ€™d consider that more revealing the fact that your country is betraying you. On the other hand if youโ€™re just leaking classified information that reveals no wrongdoing for the sake of leaking classified information, yes youโ€™re betraying your country.

2018-01-27 06:21:35 UTC

Or worse, if you're revealing classified information which could or does place soldiers and people in immediate danger.

2018-01-27 06:36:57 UTC

I mean the question is not which is crummy, its what kind of info was being leaked.

2018-01-27 06:37:04 UTC

THen we decide if it was crummy or not.

2018-01-27 06:37:52 UTC

Id be worried if the info being leaked was say, current tactics, list of soldiers/leaders currently serving.

2018-01-27 06:38:26 UTC

Judging from Snowdens notoriety, I assumed that it was because the info he leaked wasnt of the above.

2018-01-27 16:00:42 UTC

Yeah Snowden was a "whistleblower" type wher he confirmed what the govt. was doing, manning released a plethora of shit ranging from recordings of military having fun blowing up civilians via helicopter to sensitive intelligence about people, military placement, etc, I doubt she had good intentions either considering the size and range of info

2018-01-27 16:01:40 UTC

I think Manning's intentions were good, they were just extremely neglectful over what they actually released

2018-01-27 17:49:37 UTC

HRC video with a weird glitch... wtf??? https://twitter.com/AlexMohajer/status/957078762440441856

2018-01-27 17:52:58 UTC
2018-01-27 17:53:36 UTC

Q posted stuff about shit is going to get real and this was in my news feed

2018-01-27 19:53:51 UTC

https://youtu.be/aIcF-tdNVyE

Really interesting interview id thought id share with you all

2018-01-27 20:23:55 UTC

```Coincheck has fallen victim to a hack attack that reportedly stole more than $400 million worth of cryptocurrencies.

The Tokyo-based exchange is a platform where consumers can buy or sell a number of cryptocurrencies, and this appears to be the largest monetary theft of cryptocurrency ever reported.
```

2018-01-27 20:24:03 UTC

stop keeping your money in exchanges

2018-01-27 20:24:18 UTC

there is 0 liabiltiy with cryptocurrencies in most (every?) country

2018-01-27 20:25:19 UTC

sooooooooooooooo many exchanges have been "hacked" over the years

2018-01-27 20:25:22 UTC

Yeah.

2018-01-27 20:25:35 UTC

I haven't jumped into crypto yet because I want to know what I am doing before I do.

2018-01-27 20:25:49 UTC

obviously using crypto exchanges is fine

2018-01-27 20:26:01 UTC

As exchanges, yeah, but they're not banks.

2018-01-27 20:26:03 UTC

but withdraw anything you aren't trading

2018-01-27 20:26:12 UTC

Yeah.

2018-01-27 20:26:25 UTC

i have ~$1,000 in exchanges rn

2018-01-27 20:27:22 UTC

I remember asking Tim one time if he could give a more clear kind of 'tutorial' to crypto, but his answer was basically 'make a coinbase account.' lol

2018-01-27 20:27:35 UTC

lmfao

2018-01-27 20:27:47 UTC

crypto trading is absolute cancer

2018-01-27 20:28:07 UTC

though the barrier to entry is still lower than real stocks

2018-01-27 20:41:27 UTC

It's just gambling really, payout is either in a day or never

2018-01-27 20:54:07 UTC

lol

2018-01-27 20:54:30 UTC

I got a check from mtg mountain or whatever the fuck it was

2018-01-27 20:54:49 UTC

mtgox

2018-01-27 20:54:56 UTC

it was like, 25 cents or some shit

2018-01-27 20:55:43 UTC

@pukeblood not really

2018-01-27 20:56:07 UTC

it's not hard to make money from exchanges

2018-01-27 20:57:01 UTC

the stuff is too unstable to me at this point

2018-01-27 20:57:08 UTC

lots of people take the quick route and sell/buy way higher/lower than market price

2018-01-27 20:57:51 UTC

and a lot of money funnels back from fees, expansion, and investors

2018-01-27 20:57:53 UTC

there isn't enough valid real-world equiv short of using it to launder money

2018-01-27 20:58:01 UTC

and drugs

2018-01-27 20:58:04 UTC

i mean

2018-01-27 20:58:09 UTC

there's a bitcoin ATM near me

2018-01-27 20:58:12 UTC

yeah

2018-01-27 20:58:17 UTC

you mentioned that

2018-01-27 20:58:22 UTC

it was at 95% mkt

2018-01-27 20:58:24 UTC

@ping not really, the amount you make is based on how much you put in, and there's always a chance it could go down after

2018-01-27 20:58:36 UTC

@pukeblood crypto is a lot different from stocks

2018-01-27 20:58:44 UTC

there are bots

2018-01-27 20:58:51 UTC

but they aren't as agressive

2018-01-27 20:59:14 UTC

have you ever actually tried to buy during a dip? theyre aggressive

2018-01-27 20:59:15 UTC

crypto trends are easier to identify by humans

2018-01-27 20:59:41 UTC

High frequency trading crypto rtos's with extremely low jitter

2018-01-27 21:05:34 UTC

I don't see it to differently from a new country's currency

2018-01-27 21:06:27 UTC

unless there were local bidnesses accepting btc

2018-01-27 21:06:33 UTC

which there are a couple here

2018-01-27 21:16:05 UTC

Oh shit tim's ol

2018-01-27 21:16:14 UTC

lol

2018-01-27 21:16:27 UTC

THEY TRIED TO SHILL A TRADEGEENERS

2018-01-27 21:18:05 UTC

Bitcoin and natural gas stocks are used to rig elections and train brutal corporate sponsored weebs around the world

2018-01-28 06:43:01 UTC

have you guys heard about this?

2018-01-28 06:44:02 UTC

To summarize, Chase Rachels is an extremely right wing libertarian, wrote a very popular book called "Spontaneous Order." He has been trying to take out the leftists elements that have near total control of the community. He writes another book about how culture in important and how libertarianism is actually extremely, if not the most extreme right wing ideology. Asks Hans Hoppe to write a foreward for the new book. Hoppe reads the book and loves it, agrees to write the foreward for the book.

2018-01-28 06:44:55 UTC

Everything is fine until (((someone))) at the Mises institute hears about this, goes full commie and finds the proposed book cover that was meant to be private. (pic relevant) This "person" throws an autistic shit fit and people at Mises tell Hoppe to withdraw his support and foreward of the book. Hoppe tells Chase he is being FORCED to withdraw his support. (probably monetary / academic threats)

2018-01-28 06:45:04 UTC

Rachel's says he'd be happy to change the proposed cover as it has not been made public. This message goes unanswered by several people. Now Mises has scrubbed every reference to Chase Rachels from their site.

2018-01-28 06:45:24 UTC

The lesson, is the same lesson we have always learned. Once the left has their hooks in something it can never be right wing again. They're like an incurable disease. They'll play as dirty as possible to prevent you from winning.

2018-01-28 16:02:22 UTC

"I got banned for having an African cooking stream today on Twitch because they thought it was offensive. My mom is black, I was raised by her -a black woman.
They just assumed my race and banned me. I have DNA testing to prove this. Here is the email they sent me."

2018-01-28 16:04:34 UTC

She got banned becuase she was baking clay pieces and her camera guy was making clicking sounds and handed her a banana

2018-01-28 16:04:42 UTC

that's what I also heard

2018-01-28 16:04:44 UTC

its an interesting issue

2018-01-28 16:04:53 UTC

does she as a black person have the right to mock her own culture and race

2018-01-28 16:04:59 UTC

That too

2018-01-28 16:05:45 UTC

athene can say "im scamming you retards" and still not get banned

2018-01-28 16:06:41 UTC

say AND actually do the scam, I should mention

2018-01-28 16:11:09 UTC

So here's the thing... perhaps what she was doing was in poor taste...

2018-01-28 16:11:28 UTC

but shutting down her stream the way they did just gave it a streisand effect.. rather than letting people make up their own minds..

2018-01-28 16:12:05 UTC

or perhaps she's allowed to mock her own culture as you say and it's all parody...

2018-01-28 16:12:49 UTC

in either case, we now have another platform making a unilateral decision based on "?" to silence someone that they don't agree with

2018-01-28 16:14:39 UTC

between that, athene, and twitch mods banning users for their youtube videos, I think they are severely lacking a mission statement

2018-01-28 16:16:24 UTC

but did you guys see the CNN "cuckoldry is positive" article?

2018-01-28 16:16:33 UTC

Yup

2018-01-28 16:16:44 UTC

Yup, no words to describe

2018-01-28 16:16:46 UTC

holy fuck my eyes

2018-01-28 16:16:52 UTC

this is a major news organization people

2018-01-28 16:16:55 UTC

cnn is the new buzzfeed

2018-01-28 16:17:38 UTC

to top it off, it shows all white hetero couples in the photos

2018-01-28 16:17:43 UTC

but says its positive among gay men

2018-01-28 16:17:51 UTC

like wat

2018-01-28 16:46:04 UTC

BBC male presenters agreed to paycuts

2018-01-28 16:46:08 UTC

hooookay

2018-01-28 16:48:47 UTC

wow.. talk about demasculation..

2018-01-28 16:50:29 UTC

no reward for hard work

2018-01-28 17:05:49 UTC

I don't see any problem with that?

2018-01-28 17:06:14 UTC

If they were actually forced into such a thing, sure, that's a problem

2018-01-28 17:08:04 UTC

people should be paid what they're worth, regardless of other factors

2018-01-28 17:08:13 UTC

If they want to neuter themselves in the name of equality thatโ€™s fine with me (again as long as itโ€™s not forced).

2018-01-28 17:08:19 UTC

given the amount of them, it probably was a voluntold issue

2018-01-28 17:09:15 UTC

and oh yeah, I agree, if it was completely voluntary sure

2018-01-28 17:09:20 UTC

but damn, stick up for yourself

2018-01-28 17:10:09 UTC

Better than virtue signaling. If you believe something you should act on it.

2018-01-28 17:10:21 UTC

So Iโ€™ll give them credit there.

2018-01-28 17:11:10 UTC

Sure, to me this is similar to the Mark Wahlberg situation...

2018-01-28 17:45:28 UTC

well what do you know, sargon covered both the cnn article and the bbc paycuts and came up with the same conclusion

2018-01-28 17:45:47 UTC

people need not be spineless.

2018-01-28 17:48:44 UTC

I dont believe this will fix anything whatsoever, you dont appease hitler rule #1

2018-01-28 18:13:44 UTC

maybe we're getting this all wrong guys

2018-01-28 18:14:44 UTC

maybe those people asked said "not even once, you're fake news"

and CNN jsut went "So you're saying you want to be cucked"

2018-01-28 19:48:11 UTC

shit they got us

2018-01-28 19:51:19 UTC

they even mention how the study was specifically on gay men, and ignore that ala CNN style

2018-01-28 20:11:16 UTC

Purposely fake news.

2018-01-28 20:11:30 UTC

Keep it up cnn

2018-01-28 22:16:17 UTC

"Cuckolding can be positive for some couples, study says."
CNN is a shitty news outlet and lies constantly, study says

2018-01-28 22:17:46 UTC

the gizmodo comments are cancer

2018-01-28 22:17:56 UTC

I'm center, center right

2018-01-28 22:18:21 UTC

I wouldn't ina million years believe that ANY self-respecting man, regardless of his views, would have anything to do with cuckolding

2018-01-28 22:18:47 UTC

nor would I accuse any segment of the population REGARDLESS of their beliefs of it

2018-01-28 22:19:26 UTC

they dont, I think gay men are specifically more promiscuous and likely to engage, which is why the lack of separation of terms in this study-review is pretty appalling

2018-01-28 22:19:53 UTC

agree, but its' being described as basically gospel now

2018-01-28 22:20:16 UTC

I just don't know where we go from here.. I really don't

2018-01-28 22:20:27 UTC

and then the researcher himself is saying "well if conservative politicians openly hate on the gays and are sometimes gay themselves, then conservatives who openly show disgust with cuckoldry are likely cucks" makes 0 sense

2018-01-28 22:20:37 UTC

none whatsoever

2018-01-28 22:20:47 UTC

and sorry

2018-01-28 22:20:58 UTC

Hey I may be late to this but, anybody else seen the "CA Wants JAIL TIME for Offering Plastic Straws" bit?

2018-01-28 22:21:07 UTC

very few polititians, even conservatives, openly hate gays

2018-01-28 22:21:13 UTC

they might not agree with the practice

2018-01-28 22:21:26 UTC

but there is typically no hatred of the individual

2018-01-28 22:21:53 UTC

@Christopher Yactayo yes, it's crazy.. tucker did a piece on it that basically sums up my views distinctly

2018-01-28 22:21:54 UTC

Tbh only the bedroom tumblr femminists are advocating for promiscuity because they are too self entitled to maintain a relationship

2018-01-28 22:22:26 UTC

It's been going on for years but the media has let that shit slip into mainstream

2018-01-28 22:22:40 UTC

any real women wouldn't stay with a man that was so deemasculated to be into it

2018-01-28 22:22:46 UTC

I asked my wife, she laughed

2018-01-28 22:22:48 UTC

even if there were more, they're POLITICIANS, they "openly hate" anything they need to get their points, they are not representatives of values

2018-01-28 22:22:52 UTC

Not that most in the media agree they aren't critical of it

2018-01-28 22:23:15 UTC

being critical of the act != hating the person

2018-01-28 22:23:22 UTC

but small minded people can't separate the two

2018-01-28 22:23:35 UTC

you do this, therefore I hate you

2018-01-28 22:23:47 UTC

you have this opinion, therefore you're a nazi

2018-01-28 22:23:56 UTC

you are a nazi, and therefore I can punch you

2018-01-28 22:24:02 UTC

Reminds me of that one porn actress who wouldn't sleep with a gay guy for a film, and was bullied until she committed suicide.

2018-01-28 22:24:05 UTC

Well you kinda have to show some hate in order to express disagreement with something they take seriously

2018-01-28 22:24:24 UTC

@JadenFrostwolf yeah that was completely fucked up

2018-01-28 22:24:30 UTC

It wasn't that he was gay

2018-01-28 22:24:48 UTC

Yeah, she even said it was because of a higher risk of STD's, I know.

2018-01-28 22:24:51 UTC

I wouldn't call disagreing with someone's lifestyle, hate.., though

2018-01-28 22:24:53 UTC

I forgot to mention that, sorry. lol

2018-01-28 22:24:57 UTC

it's jsut a disagreement..

2018-01-28 22:25:05 UTC

It was the risk of getting STDs since the actor wasn't required to take a test before that specific shoot

2018-01-28 22:25:10 UTC

Yeah, I don't understand this obsession with emotion. Even if they did "hate" gays, what does it matter?

2018-01-28 22:25:18 UTC

She had already done shoots with other bisexual men IIRC

2018-01-28 22:26:01 UTC

@JadenFrostwolf just because that's her job, she shouldn't be forced to have sex with them, regardless of the reason

2018-01-28 22:26:02 UTC

And yeah I don't care what someone's reason is for not having sex

2018-01-28 22:26:16 UTC

They have the choice regardless of how stupid the reason os

2018-01-28 22:26:18 UTC

it's their body.. regardless of prfession

2018-01-28 22:26:21 UTC

I know, I'm on the side of the actress.

2018-01-28 22:26:32 UTC

oh I know you are, I was agreeing with you

2018-01-28 22:26:35 UTC

Even more is on the line since it's going online for everyone to see

2018-01-28 22:26:37 UTC

and even if I didn't agree with you

2018-01-28 22:26:44 UTC

that wouldn't mean I hated you ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-01-28 22:26:53 UTC

Yeah. lol

2018-01-28 22:27:03 UTC

because you know, I'm able to separate hate from disagreement

2018-01-28 22:27:14 UTC

Ur all stupid and ignorant for not agreeing with me
JUST LOOK AT THE SCIENCE YOU IDIOTS

2018-01-28 22:27:17 UTC

taylor swift gets bullied for not openly stating her political values, and thats WEIRD as shit to me

2018-01-28 22:27:28 UTC

I know. lol

2018-01-28 22:27:38 UTC

are you saying she gets hated on for NOT HAVING AN OPINION

2018-01-28 22:27:43 UTC

lol

2018-01-28 22:27:44 UTC

When people pull the science card it pisses me off

2018-01-28 22:27:56 UTC

science changes every 5 years as we get new data..

2018-01-28 22:27:57 UTC

Everyone on every side of the spectrum does it

2018-01-28 22:28:08 UTC

Science isn't an entity

2018-01-28 22:28:12 UTC

so while, yeah, science can be used, my god, it's not set in stone

2018-01-28 22:28:18 UTC

@LotheronPrime Science changes every second as we get new data

2018-01-28 22:28:23 UTC

exactly

2018-01-28 22:28:33 UTC

We form theorems which contain a set of statements that back each other up inside of such theorem

2018-01-28 22:28:45 UTC

@Christopher Yactayo So you're saying science is like wikipedia?

2018-01-28 22:28:54 UTC

science =/= statistics though

2018-01-28 22:29:25 UTC

too many people are quick to find a cause for ANY statistic, good or bad

2018-01-28 22:29:30 UTC

They aren't always true in the sense of reality we just choose the theories that best match observations

2018-01-28 22:29:37 UTC

its like the pseudoscientific health articles "eggs are bad for you mmkay"

2018-01-28 22:29:45 UTC

because some people reacted bad to eggs

2018-01-28 22:29:46 UTC

For example, special relativity vs traditional Newtonian physics

2018-01-28 22:30:36 UTC

Techinically science is like wikipedia. Anyone can make a scientific study or display new data. Then that data is tested and retested to assure whether it is true or not. So yes, like wikipedia

2018-01-28 22:30:37 UTC

Special relativity superseded Newtonian physics completely, giving a completely new set of supporting assertions and observations

2018-01-28 22:31:27 UTC

Newtonian physics is great for the simple interactions we have on Earth with negligible difference in results to special relativity so they are both usefu

2018-01-28 22:32:08 UTC

What I'm getting at is that you need to explicitly state which theory you are pulling from instead of just calling whatever shit you say "scientific fact"

2018-01-28 22:32:15 UTC

Because you can't mix and match

2018-01-28 22:32:22 UTC

or if you do

2018-01-28 22:32:27 UTC

that's a new theorem entirely

2018-01-28 22:33:14 UTC

a theorem is a hypothesis with a huge amount of supporting hypotheses surrounding it

2018-01-28 22:33:17 UTC

which must stand up to scientific scrutiny before beingcited as example

2018-01-28 22:33:20 UTC

and tend to stick

2018-01-28 22:33:35 UTC

I mean we have thousands of University professors to figure this shit out, anything you come up with is most likely not new and has already been classified or thrown out

2018-01-28 22:34:12 UTC

Peer review culture is the best we are going to get to a system that produces theories that match reality

2018-01-28 22:34:26 UTC

(for humans at least)

2018-01-28 22:34:28 UTC

I'm not so sure

2018-01-28 22:34:33 UTC

on the surface, yes

2018-01-28 22:35:10 UTC

but the entry to those peer reviewed articles can be low, and its jsut the same bubble that peer reviews each other, so very little scruteny

2018-01-28 22:35:48 UTC

Well you might have objections to a lot of acedemia and I do too but they come from areas with very low peer reviews and citations

2018-01-28 22:36:05 UTC

one study can be unanimously decided to have been executed to the best methods available, but its still only one study

2018-01-28 22:36:20 UTC

Physics, psycology, engineering, etc are extremely difficult to bullshit

2018-01-28 22:37:27 UTC

Psycology less than others since they are based on less concrete observations of extremely complex systems

2018-01-28 22:37:53 UTC

jbp ont he subject

2018-01-28 22:38:07 UTC

But still waaaaay harder to bullshit than history or sociology

2018-01-28 22:38:25 UTC

JBP explaisn what I'm talking about more than I could ever

2018-01-28 23:04:59 UTC

JBP basically says humanities is cancer and most people that make humanities papers aren't doing it to progress human knowledge, just pitch their own opinions and circlejerk them

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