The way it's posed makes it seem like it'd be "free", but it's anything but

It's mostly stuff that Bastiat would've called "the unseen"

So, let's say it costs us comfort and prosperity in the future

But hey, people aren't dying for health stuff, right?

I can see how that would persuade someone who holds a simple "Life > material goods/comfort" value

However

What about...the lives that would've been saved from new medical procedures that didn't come about because there's not enough left over to pursue them?

Or the technological innovations that would otherwise do this (e.g. in-home heating helps save lots of elderly lives in the winter)?

So ultimately you're trading some kinds of lives for others

And the question is: why are some more important than others?

why are others more important than yourself?

That _is_ e decision that sometimes has to be made

Do you want to make it now, for all time, for everyone?

anyone who proposes force, should assume that force would be used on them unwillingly at some point

If you're talking about single payer, people still die for "health stuff"

yes, but do less people die?

fewer* /troll

more? unchanged? can we even compare?

Hard to tell. I know only a right wing org has done any sort of study here

But our rates in Canada in that study were pretty close to the same as the US', per capita

but we send more per person don;t we?

Because our hospitals are poorly funded and overpopulated basically

I think you spend more per person but have way more advanced shit overall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IsAa7kNhUg

And AFAIK, doctors from the US and Canada operating in unlicensed practices just across the Mexican border charge less and make more for about the same quality of care

i really think to get costs down, having the option to be unlicensed so long as the fact you are unlicensed is disclosed, might be an option to help get costs down, as well as other such regulations.

make those regulations something less "pay stupid amounts of time and money because we say so" and instead say you have more protections from things like lawsuits and the like

but anyone caught not disclosing will be treated like those current doing the same thing now

where they claim to be licensed but are nt

The bureaucracy is pretty staggering

They also change what counts for what on an at-least-annual basis

And I _think_ some of that comes from federal regulation, but am not sure

Also America has better payouts and success rates for malpractice

By a pretty alarming margine

pretty sure most doctors have to "charge" and amount so they can give insurance companies a discount too

well of course, you can't sue the government for something and win

Ye

I meant things like, which kinds of cases count as which kinds of coverage

the government defines what malpractice even is

MY mom is in medical charge entry

It's a nightmare

hey guys wouldnt this be more debate?

I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemies

oh, yes, they do have to decide that

actually, one of my co-workers was just talking about having to fight his insurance company over that because of such a thing being incorrectly entered

so insurance tried to say it wasn't covered when it was

“ Five novelist imagine Trump’s next chapter “ on the New York Times

These five stories are laughably delusional. Not a single one rooted in the reality of what’s happening with the Mueller investigation. All assume he worked with Putin despite multiple years of failing to prove this. One even has Trumps own secret service participating in his assassination. Pure Trump derangement syndrome.

http://archive.today/hpZgd

gottem I read that

pure utter delusion

Found something funny AND enlightening on FiveThirtyEight. I decided to look at the approval ratings for Trump compared to previous presidents.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=irpromo

At this point in time, Trump is equal in approval ratings with Reagan and only 2 percent below OBAMA!

So, if the mainstream media portrays Trump as an enemy of the people, where was all the news of Obama being an enemy of the people?

_ ... So, if the mainstream media portrays Trump as an enemy of the people, where was all the news of Obama being an enemy of the people?_
They are banned from the interwebs along with alex j

😄 Lol, I just find it funny how close they are.

@Timcast

So, with the media singing Obama's praises, and the media demonizing Trump, Trump is only 2 percent below Obama.

Says a lot about their respective performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f876ee4YN7M

Overwatch releases a new character and the SJWs have a meltdown

@STingBlaze Ever wonder why MSM never mentions Congressional Approval Ratings? Because they're pretty consistently well below Trumps at any given moment save for one or two exceptions

It's just funny how no one is talking about it. @Legiondude

@GodOfMercy (Jack) main problem they have I can sum easily

-one concept art wasn't white
-skinny
-apparently it's the exact face structure as widowmaker

so they wanted a darker-skinned, slightly thiccer wamen with some variation of face design

I'm cool with 2 of those 3 things.

See? Compromise.

I like her albino-ish

but someone recoloured her with darker skin and it looked pretty cool

I think people are just a little mad that, while we have pretty good diversity here, there isn't a playable "black girl."

pharah and ana are arab, before someone points them out

and Efi is not playable

The robot from Africa's a girl, right?

Problem solved.

but she's a robit

Racist.

I would laugh to the grave if they made a white character from Africa.

Just to really steam 'em.

robots can't be women now? transphobe.

elon musk buys overwatch and makes a character based on himself :^)

Elon Musk is the most successful African American alive.

a hwhite african billionaire. probably an astronaut. weapon: flamethrower.

@King Canuck It's not the same face structure lol... and so what if it is? and what do they want? some fat cunt? They've already got that

@King Canuck Blizzards problem is that they're pandering to these Authoritarians

like... race is literally irrelevant. These people are just racists

Especially in a game like overwatch.
Their race. Is irrelevant.

McCree is a cowboy, race is irrelevant.
Zarya is a Russian weightlifter. Race is irrelevant.
Tracer is a pilot with a temporal manipulator. Race is irrelevant.
Widowmaker is an assassin. Race is irrelevant.

Blizzard needs to stop pandering because pandering to these morons stifles creativity

why is widowmaker blue

All watching Styx??

has right now ~14k Live viewers.

almost tripple from Sargon

Tim covered this.
“ Red Dead Redemption 2, players are excited to attack and kill feminists in the game “ by Emanuel Maiberg on Vice

Vice is upset that players can treat feminist NPCs like all other none vital characters.

http://archive.today/WhRGr

@Exiled Sentinel heh I think I was the one that posted the link to this

Nice @GodOfMercy (Jack) it’s funny af

I laughed so hard when I saw the video... when he throws the NPC at the alligator I lost my shit

Hahahahaha

I’m going to put them on train tracks

And stroke my mustache

Muuhahaha

~so god damn funny

and it baits the feminist idiots so well

So who here is hoping for another TYT meltdown?

21,000 watching on Styx's live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uKNHhFWS1w

A good place to watch the national results tonight:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2018/house/

I am @MaxKolbe . If the red wave is real, I suspect we’ll get a good rant on rigging.

@Exiled Sentinel I would very much like to see election fraud exposed this year.

it's the damn russians/weather/patriarchy

Florida races are super close. Jesus, the tension.

@The01Steg That's fake news, there are 25k

of course it trops when that Gypsi is on

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/06/juror-from-sen-menendezs-corruption-trial-present-at-his-election-night-party/

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20181106/NEWS/181109956

And the swindlers flock like vultures

I feel so sad for the many people looking for deals who will be bilked

If you wander out of the ACA marketplace, caveat emptor!

Or you'll just get fined for leaving entirely.

Not anymore

Or not as of 2019 I should say

Anyway, I expect this to become an issue as predators do more of this and the people caught in their traps cry foul to their representatives, senators, and media.

I think it'll become part of the debate if the ACA lawsuit carries through and a replacement needs to be considered

SHIRRAKO, the maker of "Beating up annoying feminist in RDR2", just got his channel deleted from Youtube.

Was it a third channel? I'm seeing two others with his branding

But they're cleansed of recent content as well

thats just pathetic

"You're not allowed to beat up this NPC"

remember, youtube is in full sanitization mode

They're trying to become a TV network and that means nothing controversial

then why is south park still on?

obviously this only applies to small channels

For larger channels their videos will get demonetized but theyll be allowed to continue doing what they do aside from that

Tv shows are probably safe since youtube would be showing that sort of thing anyway

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/07/trump-reporter-racist-question-972745

since when only whites can be nationalists

since Trump

nationalism has nothing to do with skin colour

it does when you want to target people

lol, the department of homeland security was receiving funds to fight white supremacy

what a was of resources

waste*

@ emo wolf: nationalism is a way to protect a country against globalism

nothing to do with skin colour

bitches be dumb

globalism is the only solution to all those white nazis running around

No.

/s

then open the borders for europeans to compete equally with your diploma

i'm pretty sure they'd steal your job in a heartbeat

😐

i won't even talk about immigrants 'cause they only get shit jobs

see that /s there? it means /sharkasm

your white wolf is oppressing the black wolves here

be more sensitve

This might be the most honest headline I've seen from WAPO in their news letter in a long time.

end commies who confuse corporatism with capitalism! end gender fluid ideals 'cause they're fuckin' dumb!

who's with me?

@ gay/emo wolf?

@roadcrypto socialism is the equal sharing of misery!

what do you think about the top one per cent most rich paying nearly half the federal income taxes?¹²³

I stepped back because we're in the wrong room, @Melaka Fray
https://medium.com/s/power-moves/non-cooperational-theory-13c5f1986c95

LOL

>antifragile researcher

https://dailym.ai/2PJBg0J

Jeff sessions fired

lindsay graham gets the AG appointment maybe, with nikki haley getting his senate seat? SC has gubernatorial appointment for vacancies, and nikki was the previous governor.

See ya Jeff, you will not be missed.. at all.. even a little

@Timcast https://kotaku.com/current-and-former-employees-sue-riot-games-for-gender-1830262786/amp#click=https://t.co/vzzdpPUdRQ

I doubt Lindsey Graham wants to give up his senate shower privilidges to be AG

@Abel lol riot games, the ones responsible for getting me engaged in politics, their BS is finally coming back to bite them in their own asses

There have been reports of harassment from riot from back in 2012

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/health/abortion-ballot-measures-amendments/index.html

Shirrako got his channel back. This was the video in question 👍 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYAM9AfRHo

I'm still watching numbers for nj 3rd at https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2018/house/ and was wondering if any one else was as well.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/breaking-antifa-mob-currently-outside-home-of-tucker-carlson/

And they haven't called the police because...?

(likely because playing the victim card is too much fun, which is hypocrisy)

https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1058897870559109120 so this slipped under my radar

It's all blue if only women voted

@DrYuriMom kind of hypocritical of you to say he's playing the victim when you so often talk about protecting your family

women actually vote majority republican

And close to all red if Repubs. Yeah, we're a split nation.

why is it wrong for Tucker Carlson's family to feel safe in their home?

@Atkins, my point is you have hoodlums outside your house making threats you call the police before you post to twitter. At least I would.

You often talk about your fears of political persecution.

I absolutely do

If they're on the sidewalk, what are police going to do?

And i feel for Tucker Carlson, even if i don;t know who he is

They're making threats

That's assault

Assault is threats. Battery is injury.

DC police do anything, and they'll have a hundred National Lawyer's Guild attorney's begging to work pro-bono in Antifa's defense.

Have they tried?

DC police will lose.

Huh?

carson should still call the cops obvsiously

carlson

@DrYuriMom the J20 protestors all either plead early or got off.

And they were smashing windows on camera.

He probably has. We have no way to know. But if people are just in the street with a bullhorn they probably aren't going to bother.

DC police are everywhere

They have the numbers

It's a waste of time and money for them to invite lawsuits.

I think it was Chicago where they literally set fire to the Mayor's house and nothing happened. I was watching the stream.

Smashed his windows and threw molotovs.

Rahm Emanuel's house burning was nice to watch

Cat, it's DC police. They are not motivated to protect Tucker Carlson from threats outside his home.

Nah they are waiting on some fucker to give a parking ticket when they going to pay at the meter

Wasn't Chicago. Was St. Louis.

<http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-surround-mayor-krewson-s-central-west-end-home-break/article_e1ae8685-64bc-5833-8785-2859002b1276.html>

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/uproar-after-nazi-hats-gas-canisters-and-swastika-cake-used-in-class-20181107-p50emr.html

Welcome to Australia. Wanna use practical tools to teach kids about world war 2? You’re a Nazi and you’re fucked

That sounds awesome.

“Using symbols or artefacts in a way that may normalise or trivialise the actions of the Nazis is completely unacceptable.”

Single dumbest quote from the article I’ve ever read

It’s not fucking normalising, it’s teaching using practical tools

These people are so god damn stupid

"But if you teach children what Nazis were like, they'll know that not everyone we dislike is a Nazi. Unacceptable."

“A concerned individual then alerted the Anti-Defamation Commission, a Jewish organisation which fights anti-Semitism.”

Apparently learning is anti Semitic now

“He said at a time when white-supremacist activities were on the rise in Australia, schools were supposed to be safe learning environments.”

Apparently white supremacy is encroaching into Australia.
These people are fucking idiots

This world is pathetic.

I got pulled away but am now back. What is going on outside this house, if as presented, is horrible and should be addressed by the police. Peaceful picketing is one thing. Making threats is entirely another.

Wait what?

Ah, I think that conversation is in another chat, Cat.

no, we were talking about it here as well

Dunno--wouldn't having the police there possibly make it worse, politically?

Why? Tucker Carlson is a pretty solid supporter of the police, I think.

And motivation shouldn't be an issue. If someone is making threats the police should act. It's like me. If someone shoots up a synagogue and the shooter comes into my ED, I treat him. Heal him. And hand him to the authorities to hang.

Unless they can catch Antifa red handed committing a violent act, it's not worth their time to arrest them. Antifa will be released within 24 hours and it'll just cause then no end of headache as their NLG lawyers go to work.

You're being generous even thinking arrests would be made.

They would probably just be dispersed.

True.

Or they could attack the cops. That would be entertaining to watch the consequences.

And all that would be wrong.

I hate hypocrisy. I hope you never find me committing it.

Cops would get hit with a 'police brutality' lawsuit from NLG.

Hypocrisy is pretty much the worst.

And yes, as someone who got the shit beat out of me by a gang of thugs, the idea of such men picketing outside my house is not a happy thought

NLG tends to have observers at these events, just ready to lie under oath on behalf of Antifa.

NLG?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lawyers_Guild>

Ah

Communist version of the ABA

Not even exaggerating.

I'm big on civility. I'm serious, I would treat a murderer the same as I would a victim under my care. My personal heroes are the corpmen from past wars who risked their lives to save soldiers from both sides.

I totally repudiate those who ruin peoples' meals

*why is this in the newsroom chat*

Even when I was being beaten and raped, I called the men sir and thanked them. I think that's why I'm still alive. They didn't know what to do with me.

I dunno. Because we're talking about the news? I'll shut up now, though.

You confused them with manners? That’s kinda funny

In a shit way

What was the news you were talking about? What did I miss?