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@CreativeRealms self preservation. Iโm totally fine with responding to violence with violence. I think most Americans are.
Imagine how easy it would be to sway public opinion on building a literal wall and putting soldiers on it if they got violent. I almost hope they do. That would be a win for my side instantly.
There isn't a big buffer zone so it could be a gamble. I also highly doubt that they'd wait by the border to get checked when they get here which is the only way force wouldn't need to be used.
I imagine people like Tim would oppose any kind of lethal force even if they end up being violent. Might split the moderates.
So any thug willing to use violence to get in shouldnโt be blocked? I doubt many people will agree with that. In fact Iโm positive those are exactly the people we need to keep out. Many will agree.
They are mixing in with non violent people and there are too many to sort through.
I'm sure people agree they should be kept out but they might not want to use lethal force even if they are being violent.
gonna put this here
I know we're discussing in general but this is crazy
We are discussing here too so it's ok.
We were trying to figure out if Tim would support lethal force or not. I assume he wouldn't even if it means they get through.
lethal force?
no
but im sure they woulnd't want to cross with the military pointing guns at them
probably tear gas or water cannons at most
I'm okay with a country using lethal force to defend their borders from a clear threat such as this
Look at Israel. They use lethal force and they still try to break in.
rubber bullets
isreal is shooting them at palestinians side.
I wouldn't say that just because you point guns they'll stop.
the US can absoltely not set this as a valid precedent
You have to protect your borders with lethal force if necessary
You don't need to shoot all of them, but if they violently and illegally enter your country, you have the obligation to protect your country.
You start with minimum force and escalate it until they stop invading.
The men are fair game. Female privilege.
ie start with the Waterthrower -> Tear Gas -> Rubber Bullets -> Taser -> Lethal force.
There is also some kind of microwave weapon. Wonder if that would be deployed.
have we discussed this yet
I think artillery flares would be a very helpful tool.
Have some guys with thermal binos scanning the terrain and if they see anyone coming close call in an illumination mission over them and scare the living bejesus out of them.
I sort of think that won't do much.
Lets them know you have them zeroed
They probably assume they are in general when they are by the border.
You don't walk that far to get scared by some flares.
I wonder if they have CS rounds
'Projectile, 155mm: Tactical CS, XM631' - huh, guess they do
Would we be firing this into mexico?
At this point I am not much concerned with the territorial integrity of Mexico.
I assume the shells have to fall somewhere and unless it's fired into the desert you have tons of houses really close together.
Might kill some mexicans.
Modern artillery is startlingly accurate.
Yes but it also needs enough room to fall. Accuracy doesn't matter if everything is populated.
It might not be fully populated so maybe it's viable. Donno
@CreativeRealms They use Lethal Force going into Israel because they are trying to be Martyrs
That's way more than 4000 people
I wonder what will cartels do... they might "support" them, in order to make breach in the US border ๐
The cartels use them as a distraction to get in easier.
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that stream of migrants looks just like europe
European space can't compete, so they want to regulate. Of course
I fuckin hate the EU
And on that note I'm going to bed.
the report suggests that the EU should reduce red tape and encourage the private sector by reducing regulations
but also that they need protectionism, and regulations that encourage people outside of europe to buy from european sources?
it's basically telling the EU to copy the US
possible mass voter fraud in texas
Guess they don't believe in Beto?
lol
did not know who that was until Tim's video
hes like trudeau but with less of a reason to be faggy. he's not canadian.
lol
hopefully people do not but in to that bs twice
Democrats don't give a fuck about fraud. 'By Any Means Necessary'
I fear that is becoming true.
Holy shit. The comments in /r/news about the caravan are actually mostly sane. People must be waking up. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/9pnail/chaos_erupts_as_caravan_reaches_mexico_border/?st=JNGWWWWC&sh=47b830ce
The insane ones are in r/politics
news is not sane, but is the saner one of the two
Meaning, ShareBlue hasn't been able to fully exert control yet
They've already banned most of the pro-gun types.
They'll be working their way to the anti-illegal immigration types soon.
I find /r/politics to be pure propaganda, /r/news is also propaganda but not to the extent of /r/politics, and /r/worldnews is the least biased although it still has a pretty big one.
Reddit is propaganda
Also yes.
Because you can't be racist against white people.
gf knew this guy from her EMS days
This is pretty terrible. Poor guy
Remember on Nov 6 that the left wants you dead, white people.
that only can go wrong...
but its good if dems loose both, house and senate and reps gain
because in the long term it will swing the pendulm back to where it belongs -> the center
The left nowadays has this built-in positive feedback response to extremism that would make it impossible for them to return to the center.
No idea
only jews see problem with that.
its time to heat up owens.
don't worry, totalitarian left will do that soon for you... for now they're fighting for ghettos :/
but left is controlled by jews...
it will be like USSR all over again.
You mean that the people want to purge the Jews from their Society?
Who's trying to purge whom in 2018?
everyone is trying to purge whites.
but we should purge jews and then clean up what they have done.
There's no subtlety whatsoever in the campaign to purge whites.
There isnt yes. Though I suspect its more of the idea that its an excuse to be openly racist. Most of the "Kill whitey" types... well I just dont see them as the kind to have the forsight to see beyond 10 minutes.
There is also suspicions of an existing grand strategy to mass replace a population but well, the foresight issue. To be that selfish that youd sacrifice many but yet selfless enough for the next gen?
Oh, nice Video from Donald
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1053355470449127424
So much for the deviciveness
and of course what do all the democrats do? initiate orangemanbad.exe
why orange man ?
bad
bad is obvious ๐
Because he had some kind of weird spray on tan thing that made him look orange.
Error encountered
Initiate nazi.exe
oh... they didn't like his skin color, ok
He isnt even that orage.
Apparently the meme came from a very badly tinted image.
Probably deliberate.
The previous PM of Malaysia met Trump and he was more orange than Trump
Dude that's racist, Malaysians are aysian, it's in the name, check your privilege
Malays are literally mutts.
Tell that to the people saying orange man bad
I live there. Can confirm. Know why? The smart ones leave.
Daily reminder that intersectionality is inherently based in discrimination
Tell someone you returned from another country after studying and they will give you that "are you serious?" look
To be fair, discrimination isn't inherently bad
There is rationality in discrimination. If you dont have the facilities to differenciate between individuals you rely on larger and larger demographics.
Dont know which muslim is a terrorist? Ban them until you can tell the difference.
Until we can accurately gauge massive numbers of individuals by their individual traits, its easier and more cost effective to rely on more common traits.
The burden is already on the Muslim immigrant to prove he's not a terrorist. That's just how immigration works in general.
Which is my point. Many muslims coming in to EU for example without ID.
It would be the rational option to refuse them entry as they havent fufilled them minimum requirement of burden of proof.
That is discrimination. But its rational discrimination.
That would interfere with white man's burden mk. II
well too bad then. And if the people still following the whole "burden of the white men" thing. I have nothing to say. self destructive altruism is a thing.
It's pretty obvious that white shitlibs do have a savior complex like that.
Its easy really.
Just vote? Its free and it somehow absolves you of all responsibility.
"do you donate"
"do you donate or volunteer your time to soup kitchens?"
:"Eh nah I voted for the guy pushing for more welfare"
Its feelgood thats it.
You feel good while putting in the bare minimum expected of a citizen
People don't care for each other since they expect the government to do it which isn't the purpose of the government.
Which is what I worry about these days.
The social circles of charity are getting smaller.
Cities are a big cause of that.
When back then people chip in to help a fellow villager
In a city you don't know your neighbors.
Now people just dont bother as much. I mean theres peopel donating to churches.
But its one way, not reciprocal in most other cases.
https://youtu.be/Qt5NOxdYMjc?t=17 @Timcast you're in the video about facebook purge ๐
did they find a donor brain?
Man the mainstream media is super later on reporting the same things Tim reports two days eariler.
theyre too busy with the latest 2 scoops of icecream
orange man bad
The Mexican government was unable to prevent the โ caravan โ from overwhelming the Mexican border. Thousands pour in. Their destination is America.
https://www.infowars.com/breaking-video-watch-u-n-controlled-migrant-horde-overrun-mexican-border/
"unable"
Oops
Our bad
Seems like we might be unable to make the trade deal work. Oh well.
They better stop them somewhere along the way.
Infowars is saying that the UN is organizing it all. Anyone see any proof of that?
Probably NGOs rather than the UN but you never know. Either way itโs globalists.
Oy vey. Who could possibly be behind this.
What's the bet 85% of the second brexit hobbits are illegal immigrants?
Maybe not illegal, but probably not british.
Id reckon regardless of the result they will hold non stop referundums until they get the "right" answer
Yep
do it over and over till we get what we want.
i can't handle that voice from the video ๐ฅ
the one about Facebook
spicy if true
nice!
Was bound to happen after the Kavenaugh thing...
its the spirits they called, they now come back to haunt them....
didnt Booker have some other sexual misconduct issue before hand too?
yw
yes*
Ellison does too. Way more credible than ~~Garth from Wayne's World~~ Blasey-Ford
of course they are because they're probably real and not phantasy like Blasey and the rest of the Kav Bunch
Time to start the #BookerIsAHomophobe party
^^Probably should read this one, youtube is planning to do something with "offensive super chats." and it includes channels such as Sargon, PJW, Andy Warski, and even Tim Pool as potential targets for this new measure of enforcement.
Specifically they are planning to send the money from the superchat to charity instead of the creator of the stream, probably without notice.
Which is fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that people are trying to donate to the streamer.
We know. Thank you. There have been a hundred vids on this. And they have already started to enforce. Move away from YT for what you can. It can't be trusted.
Kinda surprised tim hasn't made one yet considering what it is.
He has. Look at the date it came out. He's spoken about it multiple times..
Or has he? He kinda makes a lotta videos now.
If YouTube did that to my SuperChats I would immediately demonetize my channel.
My bad then. He just posts so dang many videos it's hard to keep track now.
This one is about the 'study' it's self.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O06Naloo_EY/
This is the one he made right after all this was published.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5-A_aNMe1Wk/
For President Trump, itโs 2016 all over again
https://wapo.st/2q1fZ4r
Not sure about that. One of his biggest weaknesses - his lack of experience in political office - is gone now.
They have nothing on him now. The only ones who will vote against him will be people with TDS.
You've got to remember some of what WaPo will say in an analysis is going to be based on info they have. The reality is nobody is sure the info of the polls is accurate
All you've got to remember is that WaPo is the mouthpiece of the anti-Trump deep state.
WaPo has been less vitriolic imo then NYT
Or even others
Rape allegations are one among many political weapons.
The previous swedish government put forward a proposal to the parliament just before the election the following:
Illegal immigrants that are going to be deported or might be deported will not be charged for some crimes that can result in up to 6 months in jail including some types of violent crimes and sexual assault.
https://www.tv4.se/nyheterna/klipp/personer-som-ska-utvisas-kan-slippa-straff-11795898
https://nyheteridag.se/regeringens-forslag-invandrare-som-riskerar-utvisning-ska-slippa-straff/
Nah the lack of political experience is ever present
Because the media and politicans keep saying "he has no idea what hes doing"
why
Virtue signaling.
Basically a title 9 thing, changing gender back to its synonym of sex. Meanwhile everyone flips out that trannies won't have rights.
is trump actions towards transgenders is exactly what gop always claim dems do. It's cheap virtue signaling to social conservatives
No it's restoring sanity.
Nothing Trump has done has shown indication of caring about the debt for example but suddenly he is a deficit hawk when it comes to trans in the military
He recently ordered all federal departments to cut 5% by 2020. Small step, but it's a start.
Their have been trans people fighting in wars for thousands of years,why suddenly the virtue signaling and hand ringing in 2017
I don't think trans could have been a thing for thousands of years as the medical procedures are recent.
yeah post op surgery is like 60 years old,but their were trans soldiers in the rome army and a minority of people have lived as trans all throughout humanity
Do you mean gender dysphoric or actual trans?
The only new development in the last few years is their visibility in media
Whatever you want to call it eunuchs,kathoey,third gender their have always been 1/100th or less or so of the pop who lived life as something other then what they were born. I am not sure why their is a sudden panic towards trans in recent years
Were they injecting people with hormones back then?
And I'm pretty sure people who had their genitals removed didn't do it voluntarily most of the time.
no,but i am sure many would if that was an option. As long as people don't force it on someone when they are young people should let them live how they want
I think a lot of the hormone stuff is too new to accurately gauge the long term effects on the body.
Or mind for that matter.
I wouldn't care if trans people were in logistical units but I wouldn't trust them in combative roles.
cis hetero people also have elective procedures as well that's long term effects are not fully known. dont think any of that stuff should be banned either,live and let live
Live and let live is fine when other people's lives aren't on the line.
has there ever been a case of a trans soldier who was incompetent due to elective medical issues
It's not something I've studied.
But generally when people have mental health issues it's not good for them to be in combat.
considering how many soldiers have pti,people would be naive to think their arent cis het soldiers who dont have mental health issues
They shouldn't be in either.
Lots of people soldiers or not have mental health issues and still handle doing their day to day work effectively. People with 1 mental health issue or another compose a great swath of society
who know i am sure some of brave men who stormed the beached at normandy coudl have had undiagnosed bipolar disorder or a family history of depression
When you are desperate you take everyone.
Normally you want the best of the best.
what do you call the era we are living in now? An era of endless overseas mission which runs concurrent with public health crisis in obesity that lowers the pool of those eligable for combat. An era where you only take the best of the best or one you make exceptions for people.
I'd say if we are able to waste lives overseas for pointless wars then we aren't desperate.
Pretty soon the left is going to attack the military's disqualification of obese recruits as 'fat-shaming'. If it hasn't already.
It's weird. They hate the military as a whole but care who's in it?
I think the trans in the military issue is about economics to the left, all about getting Uncle Sam to pay for gender reassignment.
Yeah they do want the military to pay for that.
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