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No worries. It was just a fyi
Whamans can't wear a jacket at work because they can't flaunt their tits to get ahead
online vigil for Julian Assange in full effect, going on for another 4-ish hours: https://unity4j.com/stream
Anti-White, racist Media tells there is no white Genocide, when they themselves propagate white Genocide.
รhhm, right....
It's kind of like Alt-Right Holocaust Deniers. 'The Holocaust never happened. But it'd be sure nice if it did'
Come to think of it, there's also the standard issued 'Not Real Communism'.
its all "no true Scotsman"
not real communism generally goes a few steps further into dishonesty
like technically speaking, socialist states != communist states
the issue is that quite often they'll also try to defend socialism, and then try to DQ failed socialist states solely on the basis of failure
as in, if it fails it wasnt real socialism
blatantly, in their own definiton
Socialism and communism are utopian systems
Failure to achieve the utopia means it wasnt a true version by most standards
Nothing concerning about this development. Not one bit.
Totally, probably also not unconstitutional, right?
because the dems did it, has to be good, right?
There's gonna be a lot of tragic boating accidents.
Bad shit's gonna happen, nothing you can do about that, sadly.
Though in the last Florida Madden Shooting, it was preventable if someone would have listened to the father and looked at the Mother.
"We would rather people die than be seen as anti-Islam"
It's 8 years old. This would not of been big news then, but doesn't mean it shouldn't be known.
Thats not surprising given that its the UK
Im sure everyone remembers the Rotheram case where the police didnt investigate allegations of a child sex ring because they were afraid of being called racists
lmao
thats now how it is
trump reacted to how people view the news
news outlets are solely and alone the ones to blame for that
Trump is everything that everyone hoped Obama would be
Can ANYONE DENY that Trump has given us change?
How much has not changed?
i saw like at least 20 articles saying how much the us is going to lose with a ''trade war'' with china
anh some even saying the us is allready losing
to find that the have foced optics that only anti trump deranged people would let them fly by and take em as valid
i wonder how much money china is dumping into these articles
I'll be honest, I hated trump
But after seeing how much he has accomplished, the dude is actually a great president
The EU trade deal especially
I just wish he said less stupid things
As they say, donโt judge a book by its cover.
We judge all candidates by their cover.
Also that everyone comes with bad things and you need to weight them against the good things they have done.
It makes me sad how people are bending over back to twist everything the guy does into making him a bloodthirsty tyrannical warlord
A state os emergency for protests but not the thousands of rapes.
@Blackhawk342 sad fact but theres like dozens of those
none-nationalistic pakistani friend once did a meme where he dug up all the abuse cases like rotherham that had wikipedia articles and spammed them just to make a point how big of a problem it is
sidenote he made was the area (ethnicity? they have a name but i forget) most the Pakistan to UK migrants come from is actually relatively well off, educated, upper class region, respectable people by most metrics (especially for pakistan), and that its the 3rd generation+ people from that group, even though they came from educated backrounds originally, who were very poorly intigrated that usually partake in all that
Again...
i would guess some kind of gang stuff
to be a lawyer or a cop and have the name 'lawhead'
Man, there used to be a time where Iโd kinda be sad about the mass shootings in the USA, but it just happens too regularly.
@da britian That's why I think it's important everyone watch and listen to the shooting at Jacksonville. They are terrifying and we should let regularity numb you to them.
It scares me, yknow? My girlfriend lives down Cali way, so every time I hear about stuff like that I'm pretty shook
Oh
Cali sucks
You all should know this by now
That's why she said once I move to America, we're going somewhere else
We like Seattle, mostly due to the rock history
Plus rain
Nice
You will like it there
If you ever wanna go somewhere else, try texas
:D
Mostly stay away from Houston. >->
Place is too big and expensive
Texas intrigues me, my girlfriend's worried about it though. She's heard a lot of horror stories about Texas being racist, she's latina
I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be at all though
9qbx qbxhakbfne
Half of texas is hispanic
Tell her she's crazy
Mostly cut a line from el Paso straight to Houston and the southern half has a large Hispanic pop. Upper is Anglo pop and Houston and a coast has a huge black, Asian. Other minority populations
But
Yeah
I'm Hispanic too
I live in texas >->
If you want safe
San Antonio or Austin
Find a good neighborhood
And you good
Lmao, fair enough
Tbf it's not her, she's rational, it's just she's gullible and has edgy friends
the tolerance overflows
California's fine though. They just need to push more gun reform, more of these so-called "common sense gun laws" and the problem will magically fix itself. The politicians guarantee it.
Not like they're one of the most extreme anti-gun states in the country or anything.
posted earlier, but deserves discussion:
The hivemind grows
God damn
We may not like this and for good reason but I'm sorry to say this is a loosing battle. Our children are going to grow up with this. A purely personalised, projected view of the internet based on your interests and bank balance.
If you were to take it away from them they would ask for it back. 'how am I supposed to cut through all the junk?' They will cry.
The problem comes from the principle. To put restrictions on this sorta stuff, generally more restrictions harm a market, but there's not really space for competitors when everyone's in agreement on using one service that's established and has no real major competition
When I was in high school (18ish years ago) When ever we went to the computer room the teacher would say 'now go to google.co.uk, thats the best' I wonder how many kids my age were told that and if the school got any kick back for it. I have not used google in front of my son. He knows of it but uses duckduckgo.
I'm doing my part. Are you?
I mean I don't have a kid, though
```A state os emergency for protests but not the thousands of rapes.```
Its not just the rape, its the violence in general, the knife attacks/stabbings like .
People living with those "new-Germans" are afraid and the political class takes one dump after another on the normal german People, that were here 30-40 years ago and/or born here. They do not listen to what the People have to say. And thus they demonstrate and hope that they can change - as you know those mass demonstrations did change something almost 30 years ago, back at the end of the 90s.
And thus this shit starts in the east because they lived in an authoritarian surveilance state and some people still remember the time...
Anyway, at best the demonstration change the politics but tbh, I doubt that. They are just too far from the poeple, same as the Press...
So the future in Germany looks pretty dark and probably violent...
And remember the story I posted a couple of days ago? Where a Camera team was thrown out of the appartment by the father, because their son let tehm in (I don't know the age of the son but wouldn't be surprised if we are talking about something like 12-13) and *the camerateam pressed charged against the father!*
@Stefan Payne You on twitter?
no
why??
I'd just like you to read a few tweets that happened under the story. Maybe put a view point of someone close to it.
You understand German?
nope.
Well, it looks like there are people who start to not like some people from certain backgrounds.
Whats that supposed to mean?
Lets just say this: There are too many people for them to be Nazis
Thats my point when I see this.
I've only seen 4 ppl do the salute out of thousands. I'm not going to excuse them but you can't tar the whole it because of them.
https://www.facebook.com/alexander.klunter/posts/2360569773959203?__xts__[0]=68.ARBtXFViPUGxuEflU4qbIl0Ys9vJAN0zCE40N3ojWch5mPl1mGRnheHvY108NkhsT3hvN0QfOWy2f7i64qMsL-TXakcZC3sOgMBrm-9P9uMy-NmGqTWROiMU0p0ibUdjKhETGjUTyYzddE1Ye2lg1jEKqvAz3IKV0pqu-XUg6SU6MzdF82R_TD3g3Ip1GJHZ6Hdq_vOiBDHmTSlngVreudhjIPUGCpMdJLXL2-VlwA&__tn__=C-R
ITS IN GERMAN
but that is one of those things I mean. People become blackpilled and see that certain cultural circles are always the ones that cause trouble. And they always come from a similar region....
I don't use facebook for politics anyway. I'm not clicking on it even if I could read it.
Its just Hatespeech against Middle-Eastern and African people as a TL;DR and there are more and more people coming out and saying something similar.
I've heard that there were arabian organisations that called people to go to chemnits and cause violence as well....
I don't know where you stand on politics but I'll just say it is as important to tell these ppl where they are wrong just as much as it is to tell the far Left were they are wrong.
No proof, it's just hear say.
Not all people are born good. Some people are evil and made evil by their enviroment....
And fiy ou let too many of them in, you have very violent gangs that are completely unhinged and our Legal System is not up for those people. All our laws are made for a civilized situation.
It is only a very very small % of ppl that are born evil. But there are many ppl that have been taught to be 'evil' expecting them to change the their mind when they get somewhere else is stupid.
Exactly and we have all those evil people killing and stabbing the German people.
It's alot like the story The Time Traveller. We are the Eloi and they are the Morlocks.
And we have also the Gouvernment standing by the violent migrants that have killed one German and injured two others.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article181405186/Seibert-zu-Chemnitz-Bundesregierung-erkennt-keine-Trauer-sondern-Aufmarsch-von-Neonazis.html
in Short: The german Gouvernment critizises the "Neo Nazi" protest and "doesn't see any mourning".
Thats trying to put out a fire with Gasoline and make the situation there worse.
yep
Those damn morons in gouvernment...
to they want a fucking civil war? Because comments like that are what may start the civil war!
Sickening. They must know they are only going to make the problem worse.
Right now I only see one solution to diffuse the Problem, that won't ever happen:
Merkel has to resign, her whole cabinett has to resign with her and we have to have a new election.
And they have to apologize.
Only that might diffuse the Problem....
Has anything come of those boarder changes they promissed a few months ago?
if Islamic groups are coming to the protest to "kill the nonbelievers", that might actually start a civil war.
Naa, I don't think so. Even Steinmeier complied to the gouvernment....
Right now there is another interesting thing happening: People (with brain) are gathering people to make a new (left leaning) Party. I'm not sure if Oscar Lafontaine is with those but Sarah Wagenknecht is. So that might be a possibility to replace the SPD, while the AfD could replace the CDU.
now long till the next general election?
too long
the last one was last year
so 3-4 years
Are there many German speaking YT channels talking about this stuff?
BUT: The Mayor from Berlin is looking into deporting some (police known) migrants.
Thats a start.
Yes, a small one but a start.
and we need to deport those People, there is no other way.
@Poppy Rider I suspect that any German speaking channel would be from Germany, and therefore heavily curtailed in what they can legally say.
Agreed
Agrred atkins. It just goes to show, if all these ppl are neo-nazis, that censoring speach doesn't work.
If they're going after people for private facebook groups i doubt they're allowing public discussion
It only causes the barrel to blow up more violently.
Kruat needs to come back.
Thing is: Dave Cullen talks about r/K Selection Theory!
I'm incredibly skeptical about any claims connected to Chemnitz from any source. We cannot trust anything.
So much disinformation and manipulation from all players.
Yes, much like Charlottesville last year
Though the Police in Chemnits does a good job it seems.
And it looks like most of the people from the Protest are rather peaceful and do what the Police says
This is precisely the sort of thing that Yuri Bezmenov was talking about.
We are awash in information but have no ability to determine reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2PP7EowdM&ab_channel=TomScott I saw this a while back that talked about disillusion with modern news at one point
There are mainstream media sources making claims that Putin is behind this.
<http://observer.com/2018/08/is-vladimir-putin-behind-right-wing-riots-in-chemnitz-germany/>
This was on the first page of Google results for 'chemnitz riots'
Holy fuck is the Media Insane?!
They even play the "muh Russia" Card in Chemnitz???
I'm totally at a loss of Words.
Maybe we should tag Tim and ask him to make a second Channel Video about that?
The only information that appears (at the moment at least) to be credible is that a man was stabbed to death, that the two suspects arrested in connection with the stabbing were migrants, and that a large public protest happened as a result. Any other information is suspect.
lolz. Honestly, fuck google and fuck the msm.
We know that Violence happened
Against Journalists
Who were illegaly entering an Appartment....
Claims about the motivation for the attack as suspect, claims about the migrant's backgrounds are suspect, claims about the size, political bent, organization, goals, etc, of the protest are suspect.
And trying to film some places, they were shouted away
Some say the attack happened because people involved were drunk, others say it happened because there was an attempted rape. Who you believe is completely dependent on your political biases.
Some say the migrants were criminals, others say they were there legally. Again, you just have to believe whatever you choose.
What I heard was that they only Harassed Women and the germans came to help the Women.
Some say the protest was nazis, others say it was just regular citizens. Some say it was 4000 people, others say it was 10000+. Some say it was peaceful, others say it was violent. Some say it was organic, others say it was orchestrated.
and then they got stabbed
Atkins, yes, who you believe is down to you but if you're going to play the numbers what would you put your money on.
We cannot trust the media when they have obvious political biases and agendas of their own, let alone German media which have legal restrictions which may literally prevent them from legally telling the truth even if they intend to.
@Atkins
With Nazis its the same as in the US. There are a couple but the Protest happened almost immideately and they got at least hundreds, if not thousands of people. That's just too much for Nazis. Though there might be some Racist and Pro 3rd Reich People there but they are a minority. Like 5% at most.
^^^
BUT: What happened after the Initial demonstration might have caused a dramatic influx in Far Right Activists as "normal people" got insulted and trampled on. If the fรผhrthest Right are the ones that actually listen to the People, that is what they will turn to.
It's also incredibly easy to manipulate such things. If you're a lefty journalist who wants to paint the crowd as nazis to serve your agenda, you can just get one of your buddies to run in front of a wide angle shot and throw a hitler salute.
But yes, there are also definitely German citizens who have neo-nazi beliefs.
The People in the East of Germany know that.
You just have to decide what you want to believe.
They lived under *COMMUNIST REGIMES*.
The "Riots" are happening in the ex- Communist parts of Germany!
Thing is that people in the West are afraid to stand up with their eastern brothers
Well, it seems likely to me that the people of West Germany probably are having at least as hard a time understanding the situation as we are. They have much more draconian information control to try to pierce. But beyond that they have the demoralization effect preventing any action from forming.
If you can't be certain what are the actual facts of the situation and you are hesitant about being manipulated, you will be paralyzed by inaction.
For example, if you consider it possible that the protest was actually mostly nazis and you don't want to have anything to do with nazis, then even if you don't *know* it was nazis you will hesitate to support it.
Better to stay silent than risk accidentally supporting nazis.
No, there are many people who could guess the situation because the same shit is happening in their region every day.
And its the same People doing it there as well, at the other end of Germany
Its only far leftys that strongly believe in the Ideology of Diversity that protest the protesters. "Normies" that live in areas full with migrants have a pretty good grasp of the situation
east and west germany are still very different in culture and exposure to foreigners
but the buzzfeed article tim posted is... just... wow...
I wish Tim would use archives.
"there is no point in having fact-checkers in regular media because people don't believe them"
maybe the fact that there apparently ARE NO fact checkers in regular media might be the reason WHY no one believes them...
I agree. I think if even Buzzfeed or others actually started doing good work they would quickly build up a better reputation.
You know what would be wild? If media cut out the middle-man of fact-checkers, and just included links to original source documents, audio, and video.
stop the churnalisim.
If they're claiming X said Y, then just link to a clip of them saying that.
This is shit that kids learn in high school for fuck's sake. Reference the original source material whenever possible.
And the whole fucking point of hyperlinks was to do just this.
That's why hypertext was invented. To link pages together to make it easy to jump around multiple documents and have sources and context available at a click.
We're going backwards though. All this web 2.0 shit made pages pretty with stylish typesetting and complex newspaper-ish layouts, but the content turned to garbage.
Have you ever looked at the info on a Adin Palidin video? It's beautiful.
Oh yeah she's really good when it comes to citing things. She's almost unique in that regard.
she's very thorough and sciency
She makes a 40min video and if you want you could spend a weekend reading deeper.
I wouldn't be able to tell you anyone who does the same level of citation work in a youtube video.
is it really surprising that someone who continually throws in where to find the current reference when talking about things also links to the sources?
@Atkins Regarding sites turning to garbage do you think that correlates with GoogleAds at all?
Yeah, shes a breast of fresh ass innt she.
Well the financial side of things is definitely contributing to the collapse. Media companies tend to have ridiculous overhead and online advertising is so fucking awful these days that it's hard to believe, and thus the only way they can make ends meet is to become as clickbaity as possible and chase anger clicks.
What the average advertiser is willing to pay for an ad impression these days is only a tiny fraction of what they would pay 5 years ago.
And if you're a media company that wants a flashy modern office in downtown San Fran, paying salaries commensurate with that locale then you need a fuckload of clicks and you aren't going to care too much how you get them.
If I ever own a media company that shit is going to have an office in the middle of god damned nowhere flyover country, and as many staff as possible are going to work from home.
You can only drive overhead and salaries down so far though before people stop wanting to work for you. Subscription models don't work and ads pay for shit. So I don't know how to solve the financial side of things.
That's where NPR's money comes from.
While NPR obviously has more of a following on the left, I don't see many people accusing them of being fake news or clickbait.
I've been saying for a while that people need to be willing to pay for the news
It both improves quality and adds a layer of accountability to the publication
The people pushing for neutral bathrooms are typically the people who think all men are rapists.. I'd say they are throwing the safety of women under the bus in order to falsify evidence for their agenda.
If not enough whamans are getting raped to make you feel important then you must get more whamans raped
I don't know about that. But it does seem like there is some major cognitive dissonance going on. Same thing with feminism and Islam. Always makes me wonder about how these people see the world. Whether they actually believe that reality is socially constructed and are legitimately acting as if it is, or if they don't believe their ideology but would rather see strangers raped than publicly admit they are wrong.
I don't imagine someone like Big Red could ever, ***ever*** be made to publicly admit fault in their beliefs.
I think fear of being left without friends and admitting they are wrong/admitting the the nazis have a point is big part for alot of ppl. They see first hand what they do and how they talk about ppl they disagree with.
They understand what they want but they haven't quite thought out the mental pathing to get to what they want. Which is why you get a lot of that backwards mental gymnastics bullshit when they try to explain their reasoning for things.
It's why they can have hour long arguments about how the word "nigger" is racist and should never, ever, ever be used because of all the horrible things that word's done to black people. But at the exact same time continue to argue that words literally have zero power.
I had to sit through this and a lot of other things living in a household full of "moderate progressive liberals" who happened to be black.
@Vigil Please don't go to Texas. We're full. All the people coming in raised the price of living. Californians are moving in *en masse* and are trying to turn the state into California with all it's problems. There's several city governments that do all the banal nonsense the Californians do already.
Also, full of guns. Your girlfriend wouldn't like it.
Dw, Seattle is top choice
DW?
Dont Worry
My understanding is that those commies from California are moving to Texas, specifically Houston
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