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Youtube, ideally, is an advertising dream for niche products
That's why products like Tim Pool's own VPN sponsor seek him out.
Like he said, he COULD accept offers to push for video game apps and stuff and make bank, but in a sense, those advertisements wouldn't really fit his format, while something covering security does.
Many of the people in the free speech sector of youtube recognize the importance of anonymity and security, and so the marketing of that product to us is sound within this niche
a poor example, since they advertise natively as opposed to pre-roll, with good reason, a VPN is kind of at odds with Youtube's Big Data business model
Now, there are advertising models that actually track your internet usage - I know facebook does this
where if you visit a website, you're more likely to see paid ads for that website
it's more of a brand awareness model, where they try to keep their company name in your mind to get you to eventually buy
I'm not sure if youtube uses it, but google's advertising services do use it sometimes.
mmhmm
For instance, I just went to www.escapistmagazine.com, and I got this ad https://s0.2mdn.net/6232239/Cart-Abandoners-300x250.jpg
I've been recently looking for server space for a media company I'm trying to build, and bluehost was one of the server providers that I looked at.
That's a very directed advertisement.
I had to disable my ad blocker just to get an example. >:D
But no, I don't recall what ads I see on Tim's videos when I watch them on my phone (He does get ads on them there)
because I usually tune them out. They usually come in in the middle of a video... :/
so sould i use brave and bat?
how much money would you have gotten if this newest youtube guillotine had not hit you, and you had 999 subscribers and 3999 hours of viewtime? Just out of curiosity, I have no clue. Is it tens of dollars, or hundreds?
yearly, that is
so 4k viewer hours is 240k minutes watched
lets say you make 2 minute videos
120k views
so you get 119k views
that can be from 50-200$ maybe
I guess that's a decent chunk of money but that's not like anybody's career or anything
do a 10 hour lviestream of your hamsters being hamsters
heh
600 minutes per view (that reaches 100%)
so its kinda whack but w.e
yeah I understand, I totally hate it but I'm trying to get the boundaries of the thing
some people can hit 10k subs but not hit teh hour mark becuse they had a viral 30 second video
thanks for explaining btw.
30 seconde video
average watch time is 20 seconds
yeah, meme videos and such
youll need 720,000 views
time to twitch it
and get subs
and bits
and whatnot
and amazon (actual possible competitor to youtube)
but would it be trading one set of problems for another.. who knows...
I guess the worst thing from this is that if you're a budding content creator, the first time someone pays you money for the stuff you've created feels good
that being said, Amazon is probably the only feasable company that could possibly bring any competition to Youtube...
and now the treshold is pretty high
not only is the threshold high, the production value is high
think about hte mini studios popping up now
crowder, rubin, shapiro
yeah but I mean if it's 200$ or less, it's like ...nice, but it won't put food on the table
no it wont
and all three of those rely on income outside of YT
as the majority, and I know Tim does as well
Yeah. I've started watching Tim's stuff only recently
Rubin just posted a video sayign Socialism sucks,
demonitized immediatly
renamed name video as capatalism sucks
no demonitized
Lols
Kinda out of character for him to use a provocative title like that
lol i saw that
but very funny
its very out of character
but Rubin's been pretty animated on twitter regarding YT lately as well
and that's saying something for someone as agreeable as him
perhaps he's the type to anger slowly
now he's an unstoppable machine!
something's going to break for sure
or rather soemthing's gonna give
hah
and I think more and more will be looking at competitors, between demonitization, wrong think, and just arbitrary rule changes... not to mention the amount of popcorn to be consumed with the damore suit
I really hope the normies notice the damore case, but I'm kinda afraid it'll pass since it's kinda nuanced and complicated
H3 productions is on twitch for example
pass by unnoticed I mean.
no I know what you meant
I work for a major competitor to google btw
and we have none of that internally
no SJW shitshow or what?
well, it is
but its tame by comparison
yeah a little bit is fine, healthy even
I'm not on the main campus either so perhaps it doesn't affect me
but diversity and inclusivity training has happened
but I'm ok with that, I think that lends us to better people
depends on how mandatory and inquisition-like it is
well its mandtory e-training
but its more of, "don't do this, mmkay"
not, you are white male, so you shall be mocked
sounds harmless then
extremely
but yeah, I've sort of been looking for a good, condensed explanation of the damore case; What he said and why he said it
something so short and simple that it won't bore a normal person
Have you read the filing?
it's pretty damning
hmm, I'll look it up
Tim has a video on it too if you haven't seen it
I guess "Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives."
is fairly condensed and simple
thanks! ๐
anytime
have you seen the peterson channel 4 interview?
or anyone else for that matter
yeah, it was pretty fun to watch
he really pinched her with his lobster claws
"so are you saying we should live like lobsters"
She was a bit unpleasant at times, but not nearly as bad as some american hosts
so you are saying, so you are saying, so you are saying?"
but JP did a remarkably fine job
Oh no, that was her job
the problem is, is her arguments arne't fully founded
and are easily disputed by someone with JBP's intellect
and the gotcha moment.. honestly, if that happens more.. it will be a turning point in the SJW movement
plus I guess he's used to having to defend his points by now, it's become routine for him ๐
almost laughable.. wait.. is laughable.. which he did
I showed my wife that video
what did she think?
same thoughts as me, basically
"facts don't care about your feelings" to steal a great quote
is it a shapiro one or is it older?
well it's attributed to shapiro sure, but I'm sure it goes back farther if you look hard enough
Rubin's 2nd video is only 1:16 so it's not even elligble for monitization...
I know nothing about it, sorry (saw you deleted it)
heh, all right. I just started feeling self conscious about spamming the place ๐
wow 202 mph tailwind
reached 776 mph groundspeed
in a 787
somehow that's still only mach .85 and not 1.0 to go supersonic
but geeze
Depends on the IAS. Wouldn't have gotten high enough cause it's riding on the tailwind.
IAS was .85
in either case 200+ tailwind is crazy
Yeah, too bad the 787 isn't rated for Mach
Breaking sound barrier requires more speed at lower pressures
Then again a 787 is about .02Mach faster than a BA 777 which held the original record.
@i509VCB Mach is relative to the pressure surrounding you, though. The 787 is faster, but it flies at a higher altitude, ergo its typical speed as measured in Mach is lower
I have the option to add 4 sponsors per month. So basically sundays would be videos that are advertorial, half news, half product demo, then the next three videos would have a preroll for that company.
what do ya'll think
worth it?
as long as it doesnt impact the quality of the videos, why not?
itll turn sundays video into an advertorial
I mean, most people dont do videos everyday anyway
but instead of a google ad in the beginning its just me giving a shoutout
like ive been doing
and thurs-sat would have no sponsor
As long as the quality increases it's all good
You the expert on this. From what you see currently, how sustainable is this?
it means i can get an office and hire people
you should monitor the views if you do it that way before you plan with the money
i see no negative impact
or should say
minor
Going the dailywire and rubin report route?
but its mixed with many people excited and a few people upset
i want to hire investigators
thing is, if you have the advertorials on a schedule people might skip those
I'd personally be fine with it if the advertising was limited to a minor section.
Actually no idea, but dailywire has them doing those adverts.
Helps that they do it live as well.
I.E. a moment of 'this video is sponsored by X' before the video, but no more than that.
Yeah I don't mind the ads, having a small team would certainly offset that
the deal would be one advertorial per week
and small plugs in the beginning of three videos
if you treat them like ads on the radio and some online pod casts, like the daily wire, then i don't think its that big a problem. its just getting the ads right from the source rather than praying to all mighty google for some crumbs
I think styx pretty much said wean off youtube and focus on patrons.
what is the difference between an ad from google playing at the start of a video and an ad time has to read, so long as we know its an ad
so the sunday video would be like 4 minutes of product demo and 6 minutes of news
Sell merc or advertise them yourself. Dunno if it fits all situations.
monday-weds would be whatever i wanted with a 30 second shout out
Didnt you already do tech reviews? Cant be too different.
hard part is to stay... how do i say that... authentic... believeable... you know... if you come off as shilling something for the money it might hurt your credibility in areas related to the sponsors...
Too be honest its a tough situation here.
Based on yhe general ideas held by tims usual audience.
@I AM ERROR I doubt tim would get a sponsor that was political or in his domain at all
Most of us hate msm cause of govt or corp influence.
Only because said influence drives their narrative.
I don't think this would apply to Tim.
i wouldnt take a sponsor if the content didnt fit the things i talk about
and i wouldnt rep anything political
I dont think so either. But will the average viewer think that?
and would drop any sponsor that got political
ill be able to hire other people to do vids and itll work towards launching subverse
I think it's safe to say that the average viewer can tell the difference, just from the fact that they're not watching MSM and coming to Tim's videos in the first place. lol
Eh fair. Then again, I think tim needs sponsors. Just an announcement should be made. But going indie is the key, screwed by yt and patreon sucks.
This is one way to grow less reliant on them. So I say its the more rational? Way forward?
It makes sense.
of course it makes sense... but... example... ben shapiro talks about his sponsors and somehow he is using all of them... i really don't buy that... comes off as shilling for the money...
Hes just a damn good speaker thats all.
Then again tim also talked bout that vpn service and it did sound convincing.
Unless he actually does use them. It may seem like he's shilling, and it is quite possible, but none of these services are incompatible.
vpns are good services
i used tunnel bear for a while but had some issues
seemed liek virtual shield put more money into their app
Yeah, I was thinking about a VPN sometime, but I make like 6k a year with my current job and need to save.
Hey, it's better than selling iodine and jacking up the price 500%
so when i go overseas I havea vpn for security but its more importantly used to watch netflix
lol
yea alex jones just sells supplements
i turned down mobile games and other shit liek that
And water filters. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>
Black pidgeon did a mobile game lol
So did JonTron.
mobile games? ๐
@JadenFrostwolf might be that shapiro is using all of them, but it sounds fake when he talks about them
Well didnt think that people mind anyway
its the same with all kind of talk show like sponsorships really, with ben.
Yeah, he does, but meh. I try not to judge people's intent or try to read their minds.
they are all written the same way so its clear its just another ad
only the ads are being recorded live, rather than pre-recorded
So with tim specifically
Tim pool soundboard with microtransactions to unlock every phrase
its just like any ad on tv with your favorite celeb really
an entire page dedicated to every time he said "I used to work for vice"
And "I'm mixed." <:Kappa:327142715592540171>
tim worked for vice? next you're telling me he is mixed race and wears beanies ๐
tower defense where you refute accusations of being alt-right
So people actually came forward to promo Mobile games? Well I guess its not uncommon in this day and age.
The marketing budgets for some of them rival aaa companies.
There are some mobile games that aren't money vacuums.
They're just rare, and even more rarely are they actually good or interesting.
the difference between mobile game and aaa game is getting smaller every day
yea the vpn stuff has no script or anything
particularly with Mr. "Games as a Service" Ea head.
none of the proposed sponsors have any script other than teach people about it
Actually, so then, how hard would it be to get a sponsor?
Though I am assuming you got some.
the other issue is that if I just did commercials for myself would I end up making more?
theres something about getting a service that people are more into than dontaing to me
the popular mobile games are 100% exploiting psycology, IIRC there was a Y combinator talk about how they attach triggers to anxiety to improve user engagement
So, doing ads for products or services that you like vs ones that you think your audience would like?
all games exploit psychology
What is your perspective of you current audience tim? Just curious.
in fact, when Destiny was coming out, the bragged about actually hiring a psychologist to make the game addicting
I'd say just do whatever interests you. There seems to be at least *some* crossover between what you like and your audience likes.
Besides hearthstone?
what do you mean commercials for yourself? your patreon etc.?
yea do a 30 second promo for my own donations instead
you could try a hybrid approach, do one ad for yourself on one video, a paid ad for the next, see how things work. If you see enough increase from just doing an ad yourself, then you can cut the paid content. if not, then you can start putting in paid content in place of your own ad
Is it a good idea to experient here though?
hmm... depends of how it is integrated i guess... but i would combine it i guess...
We are talking someine career here. And I have no clue about what the average timcast viewer is like
It's best to keep it simple and easy, and not overcomplicate it with any kind of back-and-forth or trying anything fancy.
i think the best place to promote your own donations would be after super engaging content like when you were talking about cars on fire in sweden
though that's also when sponsors want their spots
@GingaBomber i think tim will decide for himself and just wants input...?
This aint some radioshow unfortunately
Vids may be daily, but are too short for inbetweener commercials
And cant be at the end, not everyone finishes the vids.
sponsored ads seem to be fine as long as the company has absolutely nothing to do with the content, hard to make that line clear
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