@pratel Youtube takes 30% of your contribution. Patreon takes 5%.

Thx.

I think a more important question would be, are Patrons going to have access to the Youtube perks somehow as well?

Part of me wonders if there is a way to just set up direct funding or something.

He's got a bitcoin wallet...

You could also send a check to his P.O. box if you're daring. 😛

Lol. the real old fashioned way.

Your perks will be shipped to you in 6 to 8 weeks.

jeeze. remember when that was an acceptable shipping timeframe?

What perks?

Your name in lime green for the month of August will arrive in September.

Oh. hah. Yeah, I don't really see a point in that.

We also have an exclusive Patreon chat.

*shrug*

`the oppression of the poor continues`

Seize the means of communication?

Just checking something...

help my identity has been stolen

lol

I was just trying to see if the kanji turns green

yeah, i try to aim for whichever role is pink in every discord i'm in

Become Mod.

the ideal version of my name

Time for the daily doom and gloom:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/dollar10-gas-the-obscure-maritime-rule-that-could-make-it-a-reality/ar-BBLkeCG?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

T_T thats expensive gas

more expensive than my farts thats for sure

If I were Trump, I'd be starting to yell at Europe personally. It fits with his profile and let's him cast blame. We're coming overdue on a recession and picking a fight with the UN would probably play well with the base *and* fail *and* give cover for when it all falls out.

We shall see if this ends up being a trigger for a collapse.

These doom and gloom articles tend to be overplayed.

yeah all bout dem clicks bud

patreon is the best way

but I just got access to youtube memberships

its a really bad cut but people on youtube might be more likely to join as opposed to going to patreon

i need emojis and badges for youtube members

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https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/07/unicode-refused-approve-trans-flag-emoji-instead-got-lobster/

XD some people are mad that we are getting a lobster emoji before an lgbtq flag

love the part where someone points out that lobsters are Gynandromorphs

🦀

thats a stupid looking flag anyway

Looks similar to the pedo flag

lobsters? jordan peterson grows his army

LGBTs are getting close to accpeting pedophillia into their ranks

Yep

I dont think the average homosexual cares

I watched that TEDx talk from that girl talking about pedophilia as a genuine sexuality

I mean, dont want pedos or accept them

I recall some argument as wekk

And while it *may* genuinely be a sexuality, if it is, it doesn't automatically mean they should be embraced by society

I think the fact its a genuine sexuality does not make it something to be accepted. I dont know if this girl is asking for that.

I know that much.

Rape is a sexuality, beastiality is a sexuality, paedophilia is a sexuality. All of which have victims,thus unacceptable

Gay is a sexuality, has no victims

What differences a fetish from a sexuality?

The victim

Fetish falls within a category of sexuality

a sexuality is more broad while a fetish is more focused

Like what? I like a specific breast size is a fetish, I like women is a sexuality?

sexuality is big categories like an entire gender or other massive subgroup of people

whereas a fetish would be something like a specific set of acts or traits

i think technically pedophilia could be a sexuality, but one that is by definition predatory and harmful

Because the other party cant concent

Or can be trusted to

yeah

same with bestiality

There is no argument in whether or not they are specialities, of course they are. Arguing about that is just wasting time. The fact they are victim based via the other party can not consent means they are not acceptable in the name of human rights.

*sexualities

Anyone could make a kid or a dog think taking the dick is okay, but that isn't consent because they are unable to understand the situation and effects.

yeah, definitely

Don't dick the dog, don't dick the kids. That's all folks

blurry face for president

Reminds me of that one game that had that discussion

They develop tech to make dogs be able to talk

And find out they are sentient enough to run companies.

`the furries would be so happy`

So they ask, if you manage to make something able to communicate with humans, can they still concent?

It was a wierd game. But it did make sense.

i'd say if they're sexually and mentally mature you can fuck all the dog CEOs you want

i'd follow that up with "ya fuckin furry", but still

I'm pretty sure that's a fake narrative.. just saying

Its just a silly convo in a game really

2 chars were mocking the guy

Sense in sense of it being a good point about this whole concent thing

Please dont fuck talking dogs

Gorillas can communicate with humans, but they are still docile enough to train, thus they would be trained to take the dick, which is no different to convincing a kid to take the dick.
Human intelligence or higher would be required for consent

Ability of forethought

that brings up the question of the mentally disabled being able to consent

My dog thinks 30 seconds into the future at beat

and where exactly you draw that line

my dog certainly wasn't that smart. RIP spanky you big retard

You named your dog spanky?

yea

Well they can't consent completely, they can make a personal decision, and be allowed or not by a carer depending on if it's a social norm

Hence the 'carer' part of the word 'carer', to 'care' for the decisions made

They should call them 'carers'

so the consent line is basically the same as the line at which they can no longer care for themselves

that seems fair

Well to care for yourself is to consent to your own decision. It's the same thing, do you consent to a home loan, do you consent to eating chocolate for breakfast, do you consent to munching dicks. All have long term effects

In the name of human rights you can't weigh some things more than others, sex is just another one of the many

idk i feel like letting timmy pick his breakfast cereal at the store is a whole different animal to letting timmy give uncle phil permission to diddle him

No, letting Timmy pick between Captain Crunch and Heroin is no different to letting Timmy pick between Susan from the hospital and uncle phil.

You have already demonstrated sensible logic by saying cereal, Timmy can pick a cereal because you let him choose between social norms, same as you can let him choose between Susan and Rebecca that both go to special Ed on the yellow school bus with him, and not let him eat uncle phils anus.

It is exactly the same thing

https://youtu.be/r0ZulYAeovA

damn those Russian bots, draining Iran water so Trump oppresses Muslims! 😦

Mueller indictment of Russians for interfering in the 2016 election. A few things about this indictment.

1. It doesn’t accuse any Americans of wrong doing. The FBI has explicitly stated that the no Americans are being accused in the press conference about this indictment. This includes Trump, and everyone in his campaign.

2. No vote is claimed to have been affected by these events.

3. The Russians are accused of making fake accounts, online personas, and RL identities to spread propaganda in favor of Black Lives Matter, Sanders and Trump. Also Facebook ads were purchased, and a few events were planned.

4. The actual crimes here are related to identity theft, fraud and the obfuscation of being foreign agents.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

This is the first one FYI

Ty ty

https://theintercept.com/2018/08/01/google-china-search-engine-censorship/

The Chinese government blocks information on the internet about political opponents, free speech, sex, news, and academic studies. It bans websites about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, for instance, and references to “anticommunism” and “dissidents.” Mentions of books that negatively portray authoritarian governments, like George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm, have been prohibited on Weibo, a Chinese social media website. The country also censors popular Western social media sites like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, as well as American news organizations such as the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

"Do no evil" no wonder they got rid of it lol

Thats chynah to ya man

Google has been doing this for awhile.

There's an old PBS documentary on Tienanmen (Frontline: The Tank Man if you want to see it) and htey note that simply keying in google.com.cn and searching for Tiananmen makes no mention of the riots or aftermath.

Google briefly left China and retreated to Hong Kong for refusing to censor. Then they went back quietly. The Chinese never budged.

Well it looks to me like we need to promote alternative search engines fast

I dont use google ever since they stopped showing anime streaming sites

I use Bing personally. Bribery works.

I'm kinda unsure if it really matters too much. Silicon Valley can be a bit of a hive mind.

if only anime streaming sites were any good these days :c

Mistake is dealing with the chinese.

They are very powerful in terms of industrial prowess.

i don't know if you can blame china's censorship on google. They seemed to do a decent enough job following the motto do no evil until the split up and formed Alphabet, everything went down hill rather quickly after that.

You can't. But Google once took a hard stand against it and people are angry.

Dude they delete th google drives of people.

For questionable content

Some journalists had their research deleted

That bad?! Is there a source?

thats months ago

I had a belief Google was doing shady \*\*\*\* but I wouldn't expect them to be wiping journalists.

Guess Ill have to search

Nah not on purpose

wait, months ago? oh yeah, of course they do bs shit now

They had some keywords to search for, so shit that sounds shady

Problem is, just cause you have that material does not make you a supporter of it.

they formed alphabet in like 2015

The innocent ones that were affected were journalists investigating shady shit.

Thats the issue with algorithms in general

so starting probably the year before, google was going down hill in the shady af department.

i miss when they were doing cool shit, like encourage missions to the moon and researching crazy shit like teleportation

not politically motivated BS

Or firing their smarter members.

I'd really like a source on these deleted drives.

It proves not only is Google engaging in censorship but that it might not be a trustworthy repository. It also proves they can and do scan the contents of files on their cloud.

They didnt read the fucking paper

No, like I said it wasnt intentional

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(company)

They were targeting people with shady shit.

That last one, if that gets sufficiently public could **kill** Google's commerce.

2010, they started doing cool shit, 2015, they started doing political shit

And they hit journalists that had the material

Businesses do **not** like other companies scanning their stuff.

I know of businesses that refuse to upgrade to Windows 10 because of new MS telemetry.

semi secret?

i mean, you could find info on it

i mean, one of the head guys was called "director of moon-shots" at one point

i miss THAT google

Same. Back when SV was unflinchingly libertarian.

Progressivism poisons everything

Libertarians are the ones we *want* in charge of everything. But they will never actually get in charge and hold it.

It's the classic "the best person for power is the one who least wants it" argument.

Needs to be the "physically remove" kind of libertarianism.

Anyways, does anyone have a reference on the Google's deletion of Google Drive contents or journalists?

It was a colelction of a few tweets I saw a few months, or a year ago

All i got are claims by a few journalists

So I got nothing as of now

darn. remember anything about them?

Or what they said was deleted?

All I know are some journos researching something, algorithm mistakes it for questionable content.

"the best person for power is the one who least wants it", which means its up to the people who need someone in that position to force their hand.

@GingaBomber
I did find this, but it's porn which is less damning in the public sphere
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/18/03/25/0614209/sex-workers-say-porn-on-google-drive-is-suddenly-disappearing

If you ever remember anything more specific, please let me know. This is actually kinda serious if true and I'd like to try and track down some of these tweets.

Well, if its happening still, Im only saying it was journos saying it

I havent heard anything since those

And heres the thing, its google

They might be hiding it, might not. Might be resolved, but its been a long time ago. Something like this, people at KIA wont let them live it down and if they are not talking about it, it might not be so serious

Maybe. I think KiA is more outrage-bait than anything at this point. They don't do anything. And outrage-bait tends to forget all sorts of specifics. You need to maintain lists and easy reference bots to actually keep up with that sort of thing.

Pretty much

They focus on outrage more these days. Though I think their discord is better. Reddit was never good for long serious discussions.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/sex/man-with-no-penis-used-unknown-object-to-have-sex-with-two-girlfriends/news-story/b4b48721d765ad60bd10ccbcd0412122

Youd think that the feel of a penis would be hard to replicate with another object.

Old (2016, pre-election), but probably worth storing. Looks like Google has been shady for awhile.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-06-22/google-is-the-worlds-biggest-censor-and-its-power-must-be-regulated

As an aside, it should be noted the Bush administration had actually been prepping an anti-trust case against Google but it got killed by Obama (Schmidt was very close to Obama and was a major Democratic donor).

" The last major antitrust act of the W. Bush Administration was to threaten a Sherman Act monopolization case against Google on November 5, 2008. It successfully blocked a proposed search ad partnership between #1 search provider Google, with 70% share, and #2 Yahoo, with 20% share. "

source: http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/19/break-up-google-there-is-a-solid-conservative-antitrust-case-against-alphabet-google/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6014493/The-Venezuelan-city-running-water-comes-month-cash-machines-empty.html

The Venezuelan city where nothing works: Running water comes once a month and cash machines are empty - as president Maduro finally admits his socialist economic policies have 'FAILED'

Womp womp

We all know he will try socialism again though.

inb4 not Real Socialism

What he should do is get all the socialists in the US to move to Venezuela so they can try their versions of socialism. It could be a fun experiment.

https://www.frbatlanta.org/cqer/research/gdpnow.aspx

we're looking at a 5% gdp in q3 people 😃

The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2018 is 5.0 percent on August 1, up from 4.7 percent on July 31

(predictions of course)

“ Trump tells Sessions to ‘stop this rigged witch hunt right now” by Eileen Sullivan and Michael S. Schmidt

The fake news media attempts to mislead the public into thinking that Trump ordered Sessions to end the Trump Russia Investigation, which is now making the outlandish claim that his tweets are an obstruction of justice. They purposely exclude the word “should” from their headlines and analysis. This is clearly his opinion.

http://archive.today/LUfZv

“ The FBI informant who monitored the Trump campaign, Stefan Halper, oversaw a CIA spying operation in the 1980 presidential election “ by Glenn Greenwald on The Intercept

The lie that this was just an FBI “ informant” embedded to protect the Trump campaign has been destroyed. This was a professional CIA political spy.


http://archive.today/p1x7w

good ole political espionage

i really feel liek the 80s are makign a comeback

sythwave, commies, all of its too familiar

Layman here, but how do you go from socialism back to capitalism? Like who gets what to start with? Do you just claim ownership of whatever you can fight for and kill any mofo in your way? And how the fuck do you pay someone to work for you with no money to start with?

Nomatter what someones gonna make a trade commodity

Reminds me, how in Metro, mil grade ammo was their version of gold standard currency

Depends if your talking theoretical or practical

Theoretically a socialist society would have no currency and no privately owned buisneses, but personnel property would still be a thing

As ginga seggusted a theoretically collapsing socialist would likely revert to a barter economy and have to go through the economic evolution all over again

Eventually a universally accepted item would become a defacto currency such as bullets in metro or precious/rare metal coins throughout most of history

It will be something that isnt easy to reproduce

Bottlecaps in Fallout because they are hard to counterfeit

As far as who gets what property that would be way messier and far more complicated

Well, it depends on the level of tech in society

Depending upon how terrible the fall is existing insitutions will adapt and take most of the property

Early tech or low tech it will be something that is nessesary for survival like water and food

Mid tech, some resource that is hard to reproduce, like gold or precious metals

And high tech, something intrinsicly useless.

If the insitutions dont survive then it would be a wild west free for all. Everyone grabbing what they can and the largest group probaly coming out ahead due to their numbers/material pool

Exactly, someone will have to make a common needed product and that will turn into the "currency"

Or just collectively known as bartering

Reminds me of one game I was working on solo. Idea was currency is reduced to batteries and fabrication gel.

SOmething very high tech. No currency or trading, everything was pure socialist.

System collapses, and too much dependency on the system meant many died out.

More than that but explaining the whole thing will take all day

Hope the above statements awnser your questions @Dunk Massive

If you are talking about a more pratical version then money usually exists in a society and the transition is more economic wrestling for resources than violent conflict

Unless your currency happens to go below the value of videogame currency

Or if that country end up in a situation where these two amounts of money are equal to each other

It may be the setting for the next purge movie

ah the almighty bolivar

(i assume)

Venezuela currency?

Yeap

So can I move to Venezuela and basically buy everyone and everything now they admit socialism has failed?

I can buy like 50k of bottlecaps from the local brewery before I go

I can afford about 6k cans of spaghetti, that would be better hey?

Remember that this country has been indoctrinated on anti western anti capitalist propaganda for decades

So you can definetly become the speghetti king for awhile

but eventually people may turn on you

Well it's better to love and lose than to never have loved at all.
The 'spaghetti king', I like the sound of that

Wait, he admits it?

--Discrolled.

Has Maduro really admitted socialism is a failure?

Apparently so

Better late than never.

Although to the dead, it was.

At least they had the experience of eating poo and sawdust biscuits, that's not something everyone gets the knowledge of

So what are they gonna do now?

I know an artist who lives there.

While other people joke about watching it all burn, I get anxiety.

I don't really understand how they get back to capitalism, above it was explained that it would just start over with commodities being bartered until some form of currency is adopted.. But I see even more people dying in that process

Like if one person grows rice, then everyone else either dies or sucks some good dick, because not everyone can just produce product to barter with

I feel like sending food to Venezuela on the interim may be warranted.

Unless I'm just armchairing hardcore.

Sending food won't help long-term

Why get a job is armchair man is sending food

Well it's clearly a temporary solution as they ATTEMPT to create something more sustainable.

What good are corpses?

Also, I really am not sure of what I'm talking about, but wasn't a big issue that transactions between nations was impossible?

Corpses are inspiration for the living to not become corpses, also they have been used as food in the past

Y'know I think being hungry is inspiration enough.