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@Timcast Have you looked at D.Tube? Cryptocurrency based youtube copy, a lot of people who move over or mirror their content there with a following earn quite a lot of money there.
he already has a DTube
nobody is going to read these
at one point you posted an article that was 2 paragraphs
How Isreal is planning to remove africans.
It's a bit old but still relevant.
Another movement jews influenced.
Tim's new video is up:
it's been up for awhile
I just now saw it. YouTube's been kind of weird with letting me know about uploads hours later from certain creators.
Plus, no one else put it up, so why not. lol
@ping he has 1 video on there and didn't announce it anywhere, so I didn't know
odd, the longest i've gotten notification after an upload is 2 minutes
sometimes i get notifications before the title is renamed
its always up at 4 pm 😄
The weird thing is it differs between creators. Some are minutes after an upload, whereas a couple take hours unless I go directly to their channel, and even then I sometimes don't see it.
How long are they going to keep milking this?
that's literally just 3 white screens being projected on
i don't see any VR
and if they are real images
it's not virtual at all
no fake news awards?
... Can we kick the nazi?
Violence is not de wey, no matter if you punch or kick someone.
Because he provides nothing of even remote value, and at the same time paints a target on this server's back, considering Discord is cracking down on every server in which alt-right/nazi shit gets posted
Let us not forget that this is Tim's server, not ours, and that if he were worried about discord cracking down on his server he wouldn't have a channel literally named 'the hate speech room.'
I'll agree that only linking articles and not really talking all that much is kind of spammy, though, yeah.
I'm not -that- afraid of getting banned, I'm just saying there's a difference between having a room called that, and having a literal, actual nazi spam literal, actual nazi shit
He did kinda just say "how long can they milk this shit" about a museum dedicated to the holocaust
You know that and I know that, but in terms of optics, if someone from discord wanted to down the server, they wouldn't care. I don't think the context would matter to them in this case.
I know, I do notice how he tends to go on about 'da joos.' lol
Yeah, it's pretty silly. But at the same time, he's kinda covered by 1A if that's a thing we agree with here. :/
At the third time, this is both A: Tim's server, and B: a service provided by Discord, and users of the server therefore have to abide by the rules for usage set by both Tim and Discord themselves.
I'm gonna risk sounding a bit ignorant here and ask what 1A is? lol
Oh, I've never heard of it referred to in that way before.
He hasn't posted any calls to violence or anything like that...
Which, to be frank, as a war historian I find that very horrid and misrepresentive of the camps that were in poland and amongst other places. On top of that, Discord does not have to follow the first amendment. They can, and will, ban the lot of us and will get Tim taken down by them.
At the end of the day, none of us are mods and it is ultimately up to Tim what he wants to do with people that do such things, I guess.
Just rather not have the alt-right title applied to me when I'd be one of the first in the oven so to say, and he's said it himself, the alt-right would hate him as well.
Half of my family tree is gone due to the Nazi occupation of my country, so yeah
Same kind of deal
It wasn't just the jews who suffered in those camps. You had the Polish, the gays, invalids, mental patients, prisoners of war, masons, gypsys...
I could go on.
Generally people who were considered undesireable because they resisted...
Or went into actual, organised Resistance
Half my family tree is gone because the patriarch on that side of the family and his sons decided to go into the organized resistance. One of the sons (my great grandfather) was out of the country at that time
He was the only person from that side of the family to survive
It's just when ya turn 6 million~ people into ash and dust for their beliefs and genetics? Yeah... that makes ya a shit person... to deny and then spit vile hatred to the people who suffered ...
So, essentially, it's likely time to stop framing the holocaust as just an antisemetic tragedy and instead an authoritarian tragedy. I could agree there.
Maybe that's what our Aryan buddy is trying to get across: That Hitler was an equal-opportunity oppressor for the most part.
I notice he seems to have left.
Bah... probably was waiting for one of us to say something.
Has probably been taking screen shots of the chat logs too.
Like I said before, I'm a supporter of free speech. That means, if someone's saying something that's bullshit, you've got to fight it with words, logic, and the like.
... Guess our words scared him off. By the way, not a fan of Alt-right peeps. Not a fan of antifa either.
Just had a conversation the other day in Hate Speech Room, I don't see that much of a difference between the two.
Yeah, I'm not saying we couldn't argue or debate the guy, just that I think it would've been wrong just to have him kicked.
That's where I stand, as well.
Unless he did something kick-worthy, of course. lol
Most importantly, I don't believe the alt-right should be made to be quiet. They should be challenged vocally.
@Madoc Valanor My 2 cents:
1. This is Tim's server
2. This channel is marked as being NSFW
3. The only reason Discord would crack down on this server would be if somebody who's on it reports it to Discord
Oppression is currency.
Revan, the counterpoint is this is a public channel
I don't think Discord would actually crack down on this server, though, unless it was tied to an incident like Charolettesville
You just can't know with creatures like SJWs in the mix
1. It is Tim's server, he has spoken out against Alt-right before
2. NSFW/what ever doesn't excuse propaganda lists like he was throwing up
3. You're right, problem is, you don't know whose on that list who might be part of the alt left control borns who'd might take screen shots of his lists and say "Hey discord, there's nazis here, ban them."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AgEFIv4dIE This is how Tim Pool fights those he opposes.
I know how he fights Rye, I just know how his enemy fights back.
Somewhat of a fair point.
SJWs come in, take over, ruin, then leave
It's what they are doing to comic pros rn
It's what they did to Gamers
It's what they did to journalism
1. He's spoken out against the far left as well. He's more of a centrist than anything else. That said, he very vocally supports free speech.
2. It doesn't excuse it, but it does serve as a warning that you should expect to see things you may not like/agree with/want to see
I can't really refute point 3.
On an unrelated note, if you want to put line breaks in your messages (for formatting's sake), you can use "Shift+Enter"
And wouldn't wanting to kick out nazis just for being nazis, or 'throwing up lists of propaganda' , only make things worse?
I know how to do that.
I've known for years. It's quite helpful.
^ ^ ^
Jaden brings the point I couldn't put to words together here.
When Tim Pool goes after the left, the Alt+Right considers him a hero.
When Tim Pool goes after the right, the Left considers him a hero.
He's kinda like Assange in that way
but at the same time
we can't just sit here and pretend only those who aren't affiliated with either side are capable of appreciating him.
All things said, this is basically a fan club.
I wait with baited breath for the day
If someone comes in and points out a bunch of MSM links with Anti-semitic relevancy
That Tim-sempai finally notices me
The absolute best thing you can do is challenge it on relevancy.
Sure, you can call for the muscle to get rid of this guy over here, Ms. Click, or punch them in the face, random Antifa guy.
But consider what that makes you.
@RyeNorth The only "appropriate" response to the question you just posed can only be properly posted in the hate speech room
I'm looking. 😄
@JadenFrostwolf i actually haven't seen any indication of him being a nazi
obviously the shit he posts would line up with that
but he hasn't really shown his cards
I know, but I used the term since the discussion was originally kicked off by someone calling him a nazi, so I did use it as a form of 'lazy shorthand.'
and yeah i agree
it's not constructive at all
It was more for that person's benefit, since they think he is/was a nazi.
Also, even if he did announce that he was a nazi, that alone doesn't make him ban-worthy, at least not until he does something wrong, so I was kind of pointing that out as well.
i could look up antisimetic articles if i wanted to but i really don't see the point in actively pushing it
he hasnt really responded so it's borderline spam
His name contained Aryan, which was what Hitler had seen as his pure race...
Yeah, I agree that just putting up stories and not actually talking all that much is spammy.
i'm not gonna judge someone's ideology based on their name/avatar, an indication of a troll at most
Either a troll, or maybe he really was, but the point is we don't know for certain how he identified because he never said if he was or not. Sure, we can guess, and he probably was, but I'm just saying we don't know for certain, that's all.
And again, yeah, could have just been a troll.
he's still here btw
someone said he left
won't the penis museum sponsor tim pool plz
i got one
tim being sponsored by Supreme Beanies
does anyone know if this is real? https://archive.is/gF1iR apparently this leader of an antifa group dwayne dixon chased james fields into his car with a automatic weapon shortly before fields plowed his car into the charlottsville croud
Automatic weapon sounds BS
Also, doubt it was the leader if anything.
But I did hear someone from Antifa claiming to have chased the person
With a rifle
well maybe semiauto
Has to be anyway.
I mean, who the hell would use a bolt action in this time and age? Well besides sport shooters.
But WaPo also had an article echoing the same sentiment
it was a rifle with a magazine so thats what confuses me, im not a gun expert
Automatic = shoots automatically while trigger is down
Semi Auto = shoots once everytime the trigger is pulled
The first is banned everywhere in the US under specific situations
If someone has a rifle in the US, 9 out of 10 its some semi auto.
Well, guns though, I could talk bout them for ages, not an expert either and never handled one, but I love learning about them.
I love how the MSM and Congress doesn't know silencers don't exist
They did list grenade launcher and chainsaw as possible AR attachments
Even I know thats BS, cause if it did exist, as a WH40K fan, Id know about it.
I need that chainsaw attachment, might find that on amazon 😉
chainsaws are actually really shitty weapons
Thing is, you gonna have to mount it real well, Chainsaws are not exactly good at cutting through bone
And its likely to warp the barrel when you apply too much pressure on it
good for flesh wounds
How bout kevlar then?
one of my problems with 40k is that anyone with a real blade can render most 40k melee weapons useless with a strong swing
Still, the problem with the US is how unknowledgable the Media is when it comes to guns
Or Congress in general.
Like the bump stock?
Makes a semi auto full auto?
afaik bump stocks make guns more inaccurate
You kidding me?
not to mention almost anything can become a bump stock if held right
And that asshole was using a goddamn LMG, which is already illegal for civs to own
or how all governments and media companys are ignorent about how any weapon works, or purposefuly missleading
like canadian blowgun laws
I have seen belt loops work as bump fire support
the blowgun, the most deadly canadian weapon to never kill anyone in canada
Still their laws fascinate me
Well, they are pretty much US laws but stricter.
but they have to worry about those natives from South America
The P90 can be bought, but stuck in semi auto, and magazine is limited to 25 rounds.
actually from what i hear canadians are mostly afraid of ninjas
With an ugly ass unremovable barrel
i think its because the jew fears the samurai
Thats in the US as well btw, cant get it in Canada
but any weapon you can find in an anime about ninjas is banned in canada
So anything designed to harm someone specifically is banned in land of the leaf?
Cant defend youself?
well they make acceptions for anything that they already were using in canadia before they found out about the ninja
just racism really
the ironic thing is, most weapons attributed to ninja arnt even ninja weapons
but yeah, we got off topic, an antifa man chased james fields into his car with a gun, maybe confermed?
im not sure it absolves fields of all charges but i feel like it muddys the waters to a signifigant degree
for whatever reason the aptreon channel kept switching to public
i blame russian hackers
@Arch-Fiend for future record, assume anything you see in the news about an "automatic weapon" means scary looking semi-auto rifle with a clip that sticks out. If it looks like something akin to an M4/M16, or an AK-47, assume they will refer to it as if it was any one of those rifles.
i'm sure they would refer to an airsoft rifle or paintball gun as a fully automatic rifle even if it had a hopper and orange tip
it was my interpritation, wasent going off of the news, i was the fake news for that case
then embrace the chance to learn how not to always be fake news. lets go to a shoot range everyone!
well i know the difference between the weapons mechanicly, i simply dont have an encyclopedic knowledge about guns to the point i can look at 2 very similar looking weapons and tell that one keeps firing with the trigger pulled. i probably should have said "a rifle with a magazine"
@Timcast Discord has an audit log in the server settings, you can see who changed permissions for what and when
Launching a pocast either sunday or monday on my channel
name is likely "The Culture War"
we are getting it sorted now
Me, Emily, and Reactor will be talking about the latest in the culture war once per week. Aiming for sundays at 4pm and getting it up on all platforms as well
@Timcast in your video today, you forgot to factor in the current 10,000 lifetime views requirement for the YPP. 95% is an exaggerated number. 60-80% is closer to the truth.
how is it exaggerated?
you need 1k subs AND 4k viewer hours
95% of channels dont have 1k subs
And how many of those that do have 4k watch hours?
its harder to quantify viewer hour ranks
there are channels with 2k subs who have less than 4k viewer hours
some channels make amazing videos that are 1 minute long
Oh btw, while you're here Tim, did you hear about the YouTube sponsoring thing? It's basically the equivalent of Twitch Subscriptions for YouTube?
i have not
I'm not sure who/how qualifies for it, but some channels I'm subbed to already have it enabled. You might want to look into it?
When I saw it the first person I thought of was you. lol
i might not have it cuz im with fullscreen
it says only gaming channels righ now
I should've looked into it a bit more closely, whoops lol, but I think they're looking into non-gaming channels for the future.
@Badg3rman @Timcast I don't think that the number is exagerated, so much as the fact that the point is exagerated. In the channel count, how many of those actually have videos? I'd be concerned that they might be listing channels in the same number as users. For instance, I have two channels, one which I used to post and protect drone footage I was working to sell to a company, and one on which I was testing the waters in video game review. Both would technically be in that 50 million count, but absolutely have no place being monitized as of right now.
What about people who have created channels simply to comment on other people's videos, or used to post family videos? How many of those inflate the count, do you think?
Other than that, it's absolutely believeable that only the top 5% might be monitized. It's believable that only the top 5% of people who post photos on Facebook make livings from their photographs, if only the top 8% would consider themselves actual photographers.
the percentage is exaggerated because the 50 million number is inflated. Not all of those 50 million were eligible for the YPP. The current requirement is 10k lifetime views, which only roughly 11 million channels have.
so we'd have to compare the 2.5 million who MIGHT still be eligible (if they meet the 4,000 hours in 12 months requirement, as well) with these 11 million channels who are eligible for the YPP right now.
Not with the 50 million of total channels on YT.
I suspect something like 90% of channels have like 5 videos or less and were not monetized to begin with.
That, possibly, or if someone puts one viral video up, they could become monitized under the old standard
Nobody knows the real numbers except google and I doubt they are going to want to admit how bad it is.
If they were smart they would just have different tiers of ads so joe bobs widget tighteners could advertise cheap on any channel while Pepsi pays extra to not be associated with Nazi pugs
Actually I’m convinced they already realized that then decided against it because of backroom deals with old media.
Now that google has their money tree its boring to them. They’re more interested in the power to shape opinion and policy IMO.
I'm not certain that's the case.
I think it's potentially heavy-handed as google tends to be with roll-outs like this
I think the viewing hours are probably a fair bit higher than they should be
or perhaps, they should pay particular attention to growing trends, as opposed to a binary system
But it IS in their best interest to try to work with consistent content producers for their advertising space.
The numbers seem foreboding at that height, but perhaps if they were to go and say '300 viewing hours a week' as opposed to 4,000 a year (Roughly the same, 33h shorter per month though...) it would seem a lot more manageable and approachable.
That'd be 4,800 viewing minutes per month, meaning one 5 minute video a month, with 2000 viewers, crosses that easilly.
I'm not sure that they do. I believe that the ads are bought against content, not against viewers.