Not sure if I like him or think he is a dick, but if nobody liked people that were dicks then I'd have no friends lol

yeah he can be a bit of a dick, but he's actually pretty good at interviewing people and asking difficult questions

I do like his political stature and most of his personality, I'm in a similarish field so I understand why he is a dick, but that doesn't help me like dicks at all

there's only one dick you should really like, your own

thats not how you spell lick my dude

you sure

No, it doesn't help me lick dicks at all either

Tommy knew the law and trying to be a free speech warrior is a hack so I am glad he is in jail also the privacy of the case matters so fuck him he let child groomers walk no question

wtf are u talking about

you dont make sense

uhh... no.. on all levels

Neither does defending a man who let child groomer walk

He fights against child groomers

The ones who got him in jail let child groomers walk away with it

Then keep the case private so justice can be done

You have no idea what u are talking about

^

do your research, then you can have an opinion

America is not the same as UK laws

besides, wasn't the case "already done" and just in sentencing?

You don't say.. and good for that.

The fact that the media reporting on a case happening can cause a case to face a mistrial is in and of itself a significant issue in the UK judicial system if you ask me..

these people... https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1000779868378877952?s=20

that too, are you so weak minded that you can't have an honest opinion based on what you hear? is that what the UK govt thinks of the populace?

It’s not tommy that’s the problem but rather UK laws that need to be changed. Evidence > opinions.

^

Tommy is a hero

Sure, Tommy probably broke whatever shit law resulted in his suspended sentence being reinstanted (and them some), but that doesn't make TR wrong, it makes the law wrong, and the UK govt should be ashamed of themselves

and then put the media blackout on HIS situation on top of that

break law get owned not bitch

DeadpoolGod thanks for adding important information to this conversation

@Deadpool I think you'll find you're going to the the vast minority in this conversation, or you're trolling

The UK gov has laws that make everything ilegall

that way they can prosecute anyone at any time

either which you're wasting your time and ours, but I appreciate your ability to make your points

btw that guy in the stream the other day said we dont have jury selection in the UK - we do have jusry selection - the lawyers cant choose individual members but they can call for a new jury before the trial starts if they want

Did tommy even have his lawyer

what would happen is, they pick 18 people from the "main room" where we are all put between cases... then when we get to the court room, they pick 12 of us, and the 6 go back to the main room

From what i heard, no

I heard they sent missinformation to his lawyer so he couldnt help Tommy

that's what happens here too

except lawyers can choose to NOT have someone based on some attribute or if the juror is found to not be impartial due to some reason they can be removed

then backups come in, so that there are always 12 total

but they can't PICK who they want, and they can't keep cycling until they like everyone on the jury, but they have some leeway, on the prosecution and defence

also, it doesn't matter

Tommy was a journalist, covering something the the media wasn't... and he got arrested

yes he broke whatever shit law it was

yeah they can choose to remove someone but I think theres some speicial request they have to go through or something

but still shit law and yall should be really upset right now

https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/1000952014275207169

also this is disturbing if true

basically judge knew TR would be in danger, but didn't care... "so what"

yeah i saw that... its slightly out of context but was stupid to say

Enforcing that law in that case is ilegitimate

because 1: There was no reason why the public should not know that the grooming happened

and 2: I dont think Tommy was informed of this

hes saying he doesnt care because he will be in protective custody the whole time

"you could be put into protective custody"

What’s the difference between all the journalists outside the court when count dankula was being tried and the grooming gang case?

not that he would

I'd understand a gag law being enforced in a critical matter

like an inminent terrorist attack or something

I think the blackout was that there were so many defendants that they couldn't try them all at once and didn't want the outcome of the first trial affecting the second one

hence the blackout

but still, how would TR know he couldn't do what he did

he was media

he was covering an event

and he got arrested

prior record/shit be damned

If he had been informed he wouldnt be in jail

he knew, because thats what he was arrested for in the first place

right

I get that

I dont think he knew

he is not stupid

if he knew he wouldnt have reported on it

and I concede he probably did break whatever shit law / command / whatever, but it's still wrong

maybe the first time... but not the second

He didnt look like he had any idea that the law was in place for that case

I get what you're saying wacka, but he's done a ton of shit that he could have since been arrested for if that's true

its kinda like YT, you don't know what would cause you to be arrested...

he hasnt done the thing that he was expressly told not to do since he was arrested for the same thing tthough

He and his lawyer know exactly what he can do and say without getting arrested

I do agree, as Sargon said, it was a poor choice

mmhm I think there is something Im missing

He knew he would be arrested?

I don't think he did

hes already been arrested for the exact same thing... I dont think he would just forget that

but he probably knew it *could* get him arrested, not that he would have

calculated risk that ended poorly I guess

anyway

again, we're discussing the semantics of a shitty law

whatever law that is

contempt of court

Well just being himself could get arrested

I'm a free speech absolutist and I believe we shouldn't even need to have this discussion

on a public road (pretty sure), covering an event as a journalist

Ok now that I think, the rest of the media left

so he knew there was something going on

I don't think the media was ever there

whatever

also, the gag order wasn't in place UNTIL he was arrested, right?

the case is that he knew the media was missing for some reason

So I guess they informed all the established media

but not him

and then they watched his stream and found the opportunity they were looking for

it may have been ok for other media to go there... but he was expressly told he couldnt as part of his suspended sentence

He could not report on anything related to Muslims?

of course he could

so just that case?

hes been doing that forever

no hes been reporting on that case too

"but he was expressly told he couldnt as part of his suspended sentence"

can u explain this

but not right outside the building... which is mentioned in the act

ah ok

that seems arbitrary

but yea I guess it wasnt a smart decision in his part

unless he doesnt care for his well being as much as for his mission

which is probably the case

also in the beginning of the stream you could see him talking to the defendants layers

in that case he has done a great job

getting into it with them

The way I see it he wants ppl to know about whats going on

and by getting arrested he has achieved it

way faster than he would have otherwise

I dont think he knew he was gonna be arrested but he knew it was a posiblity

he has said many times before that he will die for his cause

thing is... and this may not be a pouplar opinion... but those guys on trial.. could... COULD be innocent

that is irrelevant

he was just reporting that the trial was going on

not accusing them of anything

as far as I know

dude, he went on a 2 hr rant about grooming gangs... Im not saying they arent happening.. and if theyre guilty I hope they die in prison... but srsly

whats the problem with that

a trial about grooming

he talks about grooming

I dont see anything wrong with it

He didnt say X person is a criminal

ok.. so some guy gets accused of rape (lets say for argument hes innocent, but lets face it his life is over now) .. and he walks around outside the courthouse talking about "the patriarchy" and "sexual harassment" and rape... oh but its nothing to do with this case...

so what

is not ilegall

a child could link them

oh come on

I would think he's a nut job and ignore

and he's allowed to speak because 1A here in the US

wacka you are reaching very far to try to say that he did something wrong

The law is clear

u cannot say X person is a criminal unless it has been proven

otherwise u can talk about the topic as much as u want

well he used the word "alleged"

exactly

😃

thats the magic wor

d

even TR said that

in his video

he added it anyway, and clarified

I dont understand why ppl try to make it seem like he did something wrong lol

is so obvious that he is in the right

what country do you live ivanfr?

Spain

I'm in the US and it's obvious he did nothign wrong

regardless of the shitty law we're talking about him breaking or contempt of court

or whatever

depends on your point of view... if those lads were completely innocent, and end up going to jail because of a tainted jury... Id say thats wrong

that has nothing to do with TR

at all

also, here in the US, we assume (and they usually are) that people can be impartial regardless of news

and if that can't be ensured, the jury is sequestered

as when they did in the OJ simpsion trial

who was declared not guilty, even though he most likely is.

so either you can control the information to 12 people, or control an entire population of speech

seems like one's at least a bit possible

Europe is a shithole

It seems to be getting there.. yeah

oh no

Its been a shithole for a looong time

thats why u guys left in the first place

im gonna go take a shower, and when i come back i want you all to have written about why The Knife might be run by a cult, as i am completely unaware of why that would be

fyi: https://twitter.com/juliagalef/status/1000821910026964992

what i am talking about ^

1: idk about The Knife but I am very suspicious of that claims

its probably false that they are run by a cult

2: Elon recommended an article on The Knife, not The Knife itself

I was a paying customer of The a Knife Media because of Tim’s video on them. When I found out about the cult stuff, I sent an email with my concerns. They have yet to reply back to me. I canceled my subscription to them because if this.

TL:DR "Journalists" are worthless and they are afraid of having to actually work and get rated by the public, so they try to make Elon look as bad as possible

The company has multiple members of the cult working there.

I have no idea what that is about so I dont claim they are or they are not

the point is that Elon has nothing to do with any of taht

It’s a fact I’m afraid. And the fact that they would ignore a paying customers is pretty damning.

The only thing Elon does wrong, is being a beta who marries hotties that then divorce him and get millions of his money

it doesn't matter who is saying it, or what their leanings are.. if something is true, it's true.. regardless of the mouthpiece

Tim said they have some link or history with NXIVM

Elon is almost kinda sorta shedding the betaness

I wish, because it is a shame that a genious gets cucked like that

have u seen the videos of him with his exwife?

nah, someon's personal life doesn't really interest me much honestly

Its important to understand a person

people make all sorts of stupid decisions when feelings get in the way of facts, so I try not to blame someone too much for that

right, but one would hope that the guy that invented reusable rockets wouldnt fall for the oldest scam in the book

genius in on facet of life, doesn't assume genius in all 😃

So judge wanted closed...BUT FUCK THE JUDGE RIGHT

The top three are members of the cult and 3 of their journalists.

We are offended on behalf of everyone not like sjws

who is "we"?

heh https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1000883648768413702?s=20

Everyone for justice and the people who say not to be offended on others behalf

a Judge is not justice

a Judge is a person

Justice is an abstract concept

not a dude

The Personal Blog of Ivy Nevares: http://ivynevares.com/

She listed the cult master as a person she admired. This was the woman in Tim’s video I believe

So the chld gromming case means nothing @Ivanfr

idk what u are talking about honestly

cant wait for the new elon comic https://twitter.com/TheRealStanLee/status/1000552589308477441?s=20

Since judge isn't justice

my IQ is not as high as urs

I cant make those complex connections

Thanks Peterson

@Deleted User Im having a hard time finding an article on the cult thing, if u can link me something pls, in any case if their articles are truthful thats all that matters

Am I missing something here?

apparently The Knife Media has a working patreon

so whatever cult they are the SJWs are ok with it

arent some SJWs part of the cult?

idk, I cant find anything about it

probably because I use duckduckgo

and its not nearly as good as google

@Ivanfr here
https://frankreport.com/2016/02/06/media-watchdog-knife-of-aristotle-filled-with-nxivm-coaches/

And here https://frankreport.com/2017/06/21/part-7-the-slave-women-of-dos-abused-deceived-and-mocked-ranieres-mexican-fool-ivy-nevares/

interesting angle https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/status/1000756552540786689?s=20

ah so is some scientology-like kinda thing

yea thats very bad for their reputation

but I still think that Elon Musk has no link to any of that

he just liked one of the articles The Knife made

The cult also ran a school in Miami.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/alejandro-sanzs-wifes-miami-school-closed-by-state-tied-to-nxivm-sex-cult-founder-10295903

Why should I believe the "Frank Report"?

I loved The Knife. I really did. Their coverage of the Google Memo was perfect. I was a paying customer. But I’m not getting involved with finding a cult. No matter how good the product is.

This Frank Report site seems really, really sketchy

You don’t have to. Ask yourself this. Why didn’t they just tell me it was bullshit when I emailed them about it? I did it from a paying account. Don’t you think it’s shady that they ignored me?

btw

TR arrest on top of drudge

this one does not appear to be going away silently

much to the dismay of the judge

im sure

"Are you guys involved in a secret sex slave trafficking cult"
"no"

"OH SO YOU DENY IT?!?"

that's how most of this conspiracy shit plays out

yea the Frank Report is sketchy af

check their home pages