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2018-01-06 17:39:27 UTC

No spamming, no doxxing, be reasonable.
Follow the discord policys so we all get along.

2018-01-06 17:39:41 UTC

There are some example rules.

2018-01-06 17:39:43 UTC

thats a good start

2018-01-06 17:39:43 UTC

Well, add in shit that isnt common sense

2018-01-06 17:40:17 UTC

Well actually, its probably not that common though if people have to be reminded sooo

2018-01-06 17:40:24 UTC

>no doxing
ZERO'S WAIFU IS YUKIE

2018-01-06 17:40:29 UTC

Common sense isn't common.

2018-01-06 17:40:40 UTC

@Kori Tainaka >Has an anime avatar...

2018-01-06 17:40:45 UTC

Kori, no!!

2018-01-06 17:41:02 UTC

What have you done?!

2018-01-06 17:41:08 UTC

>I have an anime avatar

2018-01-06 17:41:13 UTC

you have to be explicit with your rules though, as ambiguous rules are designed to be broken. If you want to create a healthy discourse, you need objective rules that can easily be judged by moderators.

2018-01-06 17:41:18 UTC

<:yukie_smile:350106585864994826>

2018-01-06 17:41:56 UTC

So shit like no hatespeech isnt a good rule since its subjective

2018-01-06 17:42:20 UTC

exactly

2018-01-06 17:42:27 UTC

No commie speech

2018-01-06 17:42:29 UTC

thats what Tim's video today was saying

2018-01-06 17:42:46 UTC

Nor is it good for someone who is explicitly free speech.

2018-01-06 17:42:52 UTC

Yeah, a much better rule than "No hate speech" would be "No speech", because that's purely objective. You can't talk.

2018-01-06 17:42:58 UTC

:D

2018-01-06 17:43:07 UTC

We need context.

2018-01-06 17:43:09 UTC

Silence is golden I guess

2018-01-06 17:43:24 UTC

But duct tape is silver

2018-01-06 17:43:46 UTC

Xd

2018-01-06 17:43:47 UTC

even better, tape them mouths shut, silence

2018-01-06 17:50:18 UTC

Still, i will be here for the chaos, assuming that actually happens. Sorry for the debbie downer, but Ive seen it happen pleanty so best of luck to the mod and future mods

2018-01-06 17:55:51 UTC

@balticnapo max raises a good point in that video, but you are missing the point. The point is not whether or not the rules are objective, the point is that we should be striving to get as close as possible to an objective set of rules, and since this is a discord server linked directly to Tim, it shouldn't be that hard to find a set of rules that we agree on the necessity of, because we are likely coming from a similar point of principle, i.e. something close to the principles of freedom of speech and free discussion. Keeping that in mind, that is what we should design the rules to protect.

2018-01-06 17:56:24 UTC

Well, ill leave that to bruce and tim to discuss

2018-01-06 17:56:33 UTC

also, a lot of the point of that video is that ais are now determining what people see online and catering specifically to their biases.

2018-01-06 17:57:10 UTC

i.e. the ais are designed to cater for maximum engagement rather than maximum objectivity and truth.

2018-01-06 17:57:34 UTC

which can lead to the exact opposite of this

2018-01-06 18:23:57 UTC

Lol, well, Tim has done a really good job at explaining issues with some laws. I am sure hed have little issue with writing up rules for a small discord server.

2018-01-06 18:24:02 UTC

Well, small as of now

2018-01-06 18:26:42 UTC

yeah, but as with all things, its better to do some forward planning with some kind of vision, because that increases the likelihood of you achieving that vision, so I'm just asking the mods to think about what they want to see on this server and how they are going to achieve that.

2018-01-06 18:27:12 UTC

I just want to make shitty puns.

2018-01-06 18:27:30 UTC

Like when the inevitable chan raid happens, I want to yell out pools closed.

2018-01-06 18:27:55 UTC

lol

2018-01-06 18:28:56 UTC

yeah but you aren't a mod so your goal may be different to the mods ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-01-06 18:29:24 UTC

Every time I'm granted power on a forum/channel/whatever, the first thing I do is I ban myself

2018-01-06 18:29:34 UTC

Because if I've got the power to ban people, why not start with the worst offender?

2018-01-06 18:30:02 UTC

Im only an admin on one server, really small one with double digits (like 50). But I do fuck all there.

2018-01-06 18:31:04 UTC

Back when I was in scanlation (on IRC) I was an operator on several channels and I was admin on one, but that was mostly because the group's leader let their channel lapse and I reclaimed it for them

2018-01-06 18:31:18 UTC

I think the biggest channel I was in back then was 75 people

2018-01-06 18:36:57 UTC

@Bruce @Timcast another suggestion: set up a moderation bot to help deal with minor moderation issues that occur often (role management is generally a good thing for bots)

2018-01-06 18:37:21 UTC

I'm aware that mee6 has a slowmode

2018-01-06 18:37:28 UTC

I'm familiar with it

2018-01-06 18:37:33 UTC

@WOODY Except for the part where you have to figure out what permissions to give the bot so that it can do everything for you

2018-01-06 18:37:34 UTC

it will also help if and when a raid occurs

2018-01-06 18:37:49 UTC

you just make a role for the bot

2018-01-06 18:37:53 UTC

Yeah, most Discord bots have anti-raid utilities

2018-01-06 18:37:56 UTC

its not too hard

2018-01-06 18:38:54 UTC

The bot I use didn't have good documentation around what permissions it needed, so it took me a few days to get everything right

2018-01-06 18:39:45 UTC

use a different bot then? theres plenty of bots around for all sorts of things.

2018-01-06 18:40:10 UTC

I got one bot set up right. Why would I switch to another bot and go through another potential headache?

2018-01-06 18:40:32 UTC

Emily and I are going to head to Montreal ina few days and then Detroit if you have any story suggestions

2018-01-06 18:42:00 UTC

How bout a channel for that

2018-01-06 18:42:10 UTC

this is the newsroom channel

2018-01-06 18:42:32 UTC

Maybe you should make another text channel for general discussion so that the distinction is more apparent

2018-01-06 18:42:38 UTC

Oh so shitposting is the general?

2018-01-06 18:42:54 UTC

@Kori Tainaka I think <#398973785426100234> is for shitposting

2018-01-06 18:42:58 UTC

If you could shoot some drone Footage off Mont Royal that would be a great scenery for a video or an interview spot @Timcast

2018-01-06 18:43:36 UTC

mountain right in the middle of the city

2018-01-06 18:44:27 UTC

@Timcast I would be grateful if you would read my suggestions further up, some of them could be quite helpful.

2018-01-06 18:45:25 UTC

2018-01-06 18:45:32 UTC

dji drones are the worst

2018-01-06 18:45:37 UTC

all of my batteries failed

2018-01-06 18:46:17 UTC

RIp

2018-01-06 18:46:29 UTC

I was talking about this with another member of the discord yesterday on voice chat but something to look into maybe in the future is what's going on with California and pot. And I don't mean like the debate, I mean how right now a lot of start-up bussinesses have just dumped a TON of money into pot production and might have to find a way to pull out all their resources really quick.

2018-01-06 18:46:50 UTC

Yeah pot is a hot debate right now if you haven't done it already

2018-01-06 18:47:05 UTC

Has nothing to do with Montreal though

2018-01-06 18:47:12 UTC

oof

2018-01-06 18:47:47 UTC

I don't understand Sessions, obsession with pot

2018-01-06 18:48:13 UTC

he said it had *basically* the same risk as heroin, which is just objectively false

2018-01-06 18:48:15 UTC

Like on the freeway near me there are ads for edible products already for sale, apps that help you find pot stores and all of that; what legally is going to happen to those people if the feds crack down? Does creating an ad for pot products and posting it on a bilboard have a different sentance or punishment then being caught selling it?

2018-01-06 18:48:37 UTC

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2018-01-06 18:48:42 UTC

technically no

2018-01-06 18:49:02 UTC

because each state was allowed to have pass their own laws on marijuana

2018-01-06 18:49:10 UTC

but now that, that has been repealed

2018-01-06 18:49:42 UTC

businesses that were created before the repeal *might* still have legal standing with the federal government, def with the state governments

2018-01-06 18:49:55 UTC

So in the overlap of this repeal, what happens to those who don't pull their products, or take down their publicly displayed ads on time?

2018-01-06 18:49:55 UTC

but anything created after is def in jeopardy

2018-01-06 18:50:18 UTC

Pretty sure if 32 states pass medicinal marijuana or decriminalization of it, there will be nothing the FED can do because the majority of people will outrage over it

2018-01-06 18:50:37 UTC

If not already

2018-01-06 18:50:39 UTC

I would assume criminal charges would be filed, but then again the Fed hasn't neccessarily come out and said they were going to remove state's right to have legalized pot

2018-01-06 18:50:59 UTC

The repeal doesn't neccessarily entail that, unless new information has come out to which I was unaware

2018-01-06 18:51:39 UTC

@Kori Tainaka if you look throughout the union in general, basically everyone wants pot to be legalized, for whatever reason Sessions seems to have a personal vendetta against it and wants it removed entirely

2018-01-06 18:51:56 UTC

From what I've read, the Cole Memo was a "guidance document" and not an actual law. I don't know if that affects the outcome of its repeal

2018-01-06 18:52:04 UTC

Can you get in trouble for advertising or producing a product in the grey time between it being legal and illegal? It's this weird middle ground that I think would be worth looking into; it would be cool to hear from the farmer who started to buy seeds or even plant crops and now has to consider burnning it all. Or the company that has a warehouse of now-illegal product that they can either try to store for a later date secretly or destroy it now to stay safe.

2018-01-06 18:52:23 UTC

@Deleted User he's probably just one of those old people who thinks one marijuana joint is the equivalent to 20 years of smoking or something

2018-01-06 18:52:38 UTC

more like taking heroin

2018-01-06 18:52:44 UTC

idk why he believes this

2018-01-06 18:53:26 UTC

Like there isn't an evidence that suggests marijuana and heroin are even close to being on the same page, especially since heroins only real medinical use is for numbing pain, but we have plenty of other stuff for that

2018-01-06 18:53:32 UTC

so we obviously don't need it

2018-01-06 18:53:59 UTC

vs marijuana which has been shown to drastically help and improve the quality of life for people with Parkinson's disease for example

2018-01-06 18:54:04 UTC

Well that and the fact that big pharma pushes opioids these days

2018-01-06 18:54:12 UTC

wtf happened?

2018-01-06 18:54:13 UTC

2018-01-06 18:54:21 UTC

I left just now and I come back to a discussion.

2018-01-06 18:54:39 UTC

that's the other thing i don't understand, why the fuck is Sessions targetting marijuana when Trump literally announced the Fed would be going after the Opiod crisis like a week or two ago?

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