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2018-01-30 01:31:15 UTC

you can!

2018-01-30 01:39:36 UTC

we don't need an internet bill of rights lmao just use end to end encryption for everything

2018-01-30 02:13:39 UTC

vpns

2018-01-30 02:13:40 UTC

lol

2018-01-30 02:13:47 UTC

ShillVPNs

2018-01-30 05:30:13 UTC

@Good#2640 can you not spam the same link in 3 channels kthx

2018-01-30 08:10:35 UTC

He's gotta shill that sweet sweet enoch

2018-01-30 08:10:48 UTC

oh shit it's 00:10

2018-01-30 13:41:18 UTC

heading to Seattle

2018-01-30 13:54:10 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ anything interesting going on in seattle?

2018-01-30 14:24:29 UTC

he might be trying out that Amazon Go store.... steal something for me while you're there ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-01-30 14:40:35 UTC

im going to break the amazon store

2018-01-30 14:40:43 UTC

that guy linus didnt even try to find an exploit in the system

2018-01-30 14:40:50 UTC

Im not going to actually do any damage or steal anything

2018-01-30 14:41:00 UTC

but Im 100% confident I can find errors

2018-01-30 14:41:13 UTC

basically

2018-01-30 14:41:28 UTC

I can and will find ways to effectively steal large amounts of items without actually stealing or doing anything illegal

2018-01-30 14:43:31 UTC

Get a large blanket and throw it over yourself and the rack

2018-01-30 14:43:41 UTC

and then pull an indiana jones and swap something out

2018-01-30 14:46:44 UTC

that wont work, they have weight sensors

2018-01-30 14:50:09 UTC

there are reports that kids rearranging the shelves is terror on the system

2018-01-30 14:53:46 UTC

hence the indiana jones

2018-01-30 14:54:15 UTC

wieghts are posted on items

2018-01-30 14:55:01 UTC

if you take off items and replace them with similar weighted items could you make the system think you put back the more expencive item?

2018-01-30 14:56:04 UTC

imo it would be a ton easire if they used rfid chips for barcodes

2018-01-30 14:56:16 UTC

but afaik they are not using rfid

2018-01-30 14:56:23 UTC

only optics and weights

2018-01-30 14:58:09 UTC

rfid would be overkill for most of these items tbh

2018-01-30 14:58:50 UTC

(Hey, sorry, I know this is non-relevant: does this place have any rules? I tried asking in <#398973785426100234> )

2018-01-30 14:59:12 UTC

@Rain only rule is dont be a dick

2018-01-30 14:59:12 UTC

just be respectful afaik

2018-01-30 14:59:49 UTC

Aight, fair

2018-01-30 15:00:32 UTC

I suppose it's alright if I bring up some article I wrote? I mean, I'm not here to self-promote (I'm not a journalist), I'd just like if someone with better credientals looked into it or so

2018-01-30 15:02:08 UTC

@Kane.๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ.Nexus either way, nobody is going to be able to systematically steal from amazon

2018-01-30 15:02:43 UTC

when they do inventory and see a loss they can go back to the footage and see who stole it

2018-01-30 15:02:53 UTC

it's like trying to steal from a casino

2018-01-30 15:03:00 UTC

except this casino has 100 cameras pointed at you

2018-01-30 15:03:23 UTC

they have people going on twitter worried that they had shoplifted and Amazon says keep it

2018-01-30 15:03:25 UTC

Nope

2018-01-30 15:03:28 UTC

I can do it

2018-01-30 15:03:58 UTC

I guess you should ditch journalism and start robbing banks for a living

2018-01-30 15:04:26 UTC

You can rob amazon now?

2018-01-30 15:04:27 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-01-30 15:05:17 UTC

if you rob a bank the feds go after you, if you steal from amazon they say no worries... big difference

2018-01-30 15:06:34 UTC

i mean once it's fleshed out they will simply ban you if you keep stealing

2018-01-30 15:08:02 UTC

same with fraud like what linus (kinda) did

2018-01-30 15:10:38 UTC

Linus Theft Tips โ„ข

2018-01-30 15:10:52 UTC

i agree though

2018-01-30 15:10:58 UTC

he diddn't even attempt to steal it

2018-01-30 15:11:09 UTC

he just put it on a shelf and picked it back up and waved it around some more

2018-01-30 15:11:16 UTC

of course amazon was going to detect that

2018-01-30 15:13:57 UTC

tbh amazon go isn't that big of a deal

2018-01-30 15:15:55 UTC

what are the requirements of Amazon go? can I use a dummy card with 1$ on it?

2018-01-30 15:16:04 UTC

How much money does it try to authenticate?

2018-01-30 15:16:09 UTC

you just need the app afaik

2018-01-30 15:16:11 UTC

Can I get a burner card from 7-11?

2018-01-30 15:16:21 UTC

I think linus said $1

2018-01-30 15:16:50 UTC

I don't know about burner cards

2018-01-30 15:17:11 UTC

buy a visa gift card for 5$

2018-01-30 15:17:15 UTC

sign up with fake name

2018-01-30 15:17:20 UTC

walk in take everything walk out

2018-01-30 15:17:42 UTC

ya it is only calculated and charged after exit

2018-01-30 15:19:32 UTC

What if you walk in and grab someone else's bag?

2018-01-30 15:19:40 UTC

there are so many exploits I cant even count

2018-01-30 15:20:06 UTC

the reality is Amazon is running a trial of honor system shopping and nothing more

2018-01-30 15:20:10 UTC

ya even RFID could be countered with a shield

2018-01-30 15:20:28 UTC

RFID would be stupid for this anyways

2018-01-30 15:20:36 UTC

they dont use rfid

2018-01-30 15:20:46 UTC

would cost them what, 50c per chip?

2018-01-30 15:20:52 UTC

not worth it

2018-01-30 15:21:02 UTC

what if identical twins walk in and grab different things and walk past each toher several times

2018-01-30 15:21:02 UTC

i thought they were less than .05c

2018-01-30 15:21:50 UTC

if they walk past each other it doesn't matter, body detection and tracking is fairly straightforward given a point cloud constructed from multiple camera angles

2018-01-30 15:22:04 UTC

throw a blanket over both of them at the same time

2018-01-30 15:22:08 UTC

or a jacket

2018-01-30 15:22:09 UTC

now that's evil

2018-01-30 15:22:28 UTC

Doesn't it calculate your inventory when you walk out the door? I mean. It does give some kind of timer on how long you spent inside the store based on Linus video

2018-01-30 15:22:37 UTC

what is a group of clowns had to go shopping at the same time???

2018-01-30 15:22:42 UTC

haha

2018-01-30 15:22:48 UTC

or Anons in masks?

2018-01-30 15:22:48 UTC

identical clowns

2018-01-30 15:23:04 UTC

i bet I can walk in, take something, and walk out without paying in one minute

2018-01-30 15:23:30 UTC

theft misdemeanor comes to mind

2018-01-30 15:23:45 UTC

you have to be charged

2018-01-30 15:23:47 UTC

not if they publicize that they dont care becuase it cant hapen

2018-01-30 15:24:14 UTC

@Kane.๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ.Nexus not quite, they send a quick verification charge

2018-01-30 15:24:23 UTC

I doubt tim will make a how to vid on it

2018-01-30 15:24:40 UTC

Im going to try, and Im going to explain how we did it

2018-01-30 15:24:42 UTC

that would be illegal imo

2018-01-30 15:25:08 UTC

it will be a fascinating legal battle

2018-01-30 15:25:11 UTC

@ping I mean you have to be charged with the crime

2018-01-30 15:25:18 UTC

oh lmao

2018-01-30 15:25:38 UTC

amazon would have to prove intent

2018-01-30 15:25:40 UTC

but no im not going to steal anything

2018-01-30 15:25:41 UTC

Oh man this Amazon go seems like a terrible idea now when I finished Linus video on it. Yikes

2018-01-30 15:25:45 UTC

Im just going to prove the system is broken

2018-01-30 15:26:06 UTC

so if you get banned and come back with a ski mask and take a bunch of shit again there's intent to steal without a reasonable doubt

2018-01-30 15:26:19 UTC

now the question is

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