thats all you need to hear

**literally banning ideas**

Or

Yeah.

theres no charitable way to say that.

***illegal ideas*** as Merkel said Herself

you 'muricans hold onto your first two amendments now you hear? 😦 you don't wanna end up like us Europeans, where theres no freedom of speech, and people are not able to do anything

first one especially

Germany has been really touchy about anything someone might deem as "extreme." ever since the whole Adolf thing simmered down

you need the 2nd one to protect the 1st

I would give anything for the American constitution rn in the UK

anyone who says "the constitution is outdated" or "its not fit for the modern age" that person is coming for your rights.

Well, right now our left is trying to dismantle it.

Pretty much.

thankfully your Trump is utterly destroying them at any turn 😄

You Seem to be doing alright

Compared to us

we need Trumps across europe 😦

Yeah, the UK needs some kind of bill to protect rights. The fact that this is happening at all is just one step further towards an authoritarian construct.

The only reason to change the constitution is to add to it. Luckily that ability is already in the constitutuion.

If it doesn't get better, it'll get worse

This kind of thing doesn't just stagnate

its going to get worse, and it has to get worse before it gets better

Trump is protecting the constitution, but he isn't really enacting it... nationalists are just as willing to sacrifice rights for the good of the nation.

Where there's power and control to be had, you better believe certain types will grasp at it

We are also stuck between 2 authoritarian parties who both want to strip rights for safety

the UK is practically like Children of Men now

Eh?

A movie, I guess

Google, while being the cesspool that it is, is still useful

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/

I see

I can agree

We are an ember

The movie opens with a cafe being bombed by a terrorist while everyones watching the news about some shit like terrorism and theres a ton of immigrants

Almost gone but not quite yet

thats London

Reminds me of the opening to Justice League.
Anyone see that movie?

That’s england under civic nationalism too

I live in london

Its

Bad

Rip

Also civic nationalism is the only way about things

Radical is quick and easy

I hear in Paris there are gangs of immigrants who "coerce" you to buy stuff. Is that the case in London?

It is not responsible or very adult

Why would someone want to watch Justice League

More and more

I had my reasons.

Singleton , have fun with “muh based black and Muslim guys”

Under Khan crime is skyrocketting

Knife crime up

Kids dying up

The movie opens with these terrorist guys trying to blow up a building, even willing to blow themselves up in the process.
All white guys, going on about 'holy fire' and whatnot.
Because... yeah... that totally happens, right?

Thievery up

Apparently acid is up, too.

Highest in the world

Sadiq Khan needs to go

He's ruining London

Civic fails , no matter what you do minorities vote overwhelmingly for leftists parties everywhere

And illegals removed

That’s why u got ur Sadiq

Civic doesn't

When its strong

Full of non English people

guys, what you need is the enlightenment.

but how else us he and his cronies supposed to be reelected if they don't pump the country full of thousands of migrants!

So it no longer reflects england

you need individual rights

Radical nationalism rn is an excuse for the state to clamp down further, it helps no-one

I'm sure they're aware that they need individual rights.

Finsbury park

you need to understand why individual rights are necessary for life and collective rights means you have no rights.

no they aren't

uh

might want to specify

nationalism doesn't guarantee your rights

Well, yeah, that's not being argued.

What does then revolver

Collective rights are a thing, they just need to be curbed. There's a balance to be had between the individual and the group.

Also yes jej this was all a ploy to keep labour in power, import a state reliant class of voters illegally

Tony Blair did this ultimately

I don't even know what you're getting at

If u act only as individuals then you will be swallowed by a group

If a mass of individuals have the same rights, and are in the same country, that's collective rights

the only way to maintain individual rights is to ensure that the population understands why individual rights are important

As a community.
As a group.

immigrants tend to do what they are told by the host country

By the ones who want to give them stuff

act as individuals working together

If you can guarantee "any one" individuals rights, then everyone has the same rights

At that point it no longer becomes a question of "who's being oppressed" or "who's rights are being violated" but who's got the best idea to lead the country

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Revolver u wot

if they are told their culture is important, they will perpetuate it, if they are told individual rights are paramount, they will advocate for individual rights

Immigrants tend to do what they’re told , no they don’t , not the ones we in the West have been flooded with anyways

its got nothing to do with race or ethnicity

They're perpetuating their culture anyway, though, even in the face of being in a country with individual rights.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's even being argued here. Does the government go out and personally tell one person at a time what rights they have? If they all have the same rights, that's collective rights

I still don't understand

we are telling them that their culture is equally important and not telling them why our culture is important

that is why they don't respect it