y'all need a Trump

wheres that british billionaire from "The apprentice"? 😛

have him be PM

no one needs trump... but almost all countries are in need of competent leadership

I think Trump is (frequently, but not always) the best we've had in a while.

well, Trump is doing pretty good if you look at whats going on

Sure, i'd rather have a Putin kind of person but we can't all be like Russia

trump is bad... that the other ones were worse does not make him good 😉

I mean, I agree with most of the things he ran on.

i actually think he's doing pretty good

Economy is booming
No WW3 (like the western world predicted)
Tax Cuts
push back against this whole PC society

No WW3, yet.

ftfy

not gonna happen anyways

WW3 was more the thing Hillary ran on 😄

Mmm Russia's made it clear that if ANYONE nukes ANYONE they nuke EVERYONE.

exactly

hence nothings gonna happen

so you may be right, WW3 wouldn't last long enough to be WW3

It'd just be exterminatus the musical

the Final Countdown, if you will.

WW3 will not happen because Germany is not allowed to initiate a war and serbia has refrained from killing royalty lately

these things are not the same.

that and theres no Austrian royalty

Both of those examples are things that happened exactly once to start their respective great wars

come to think of it.. both world wars were started because of stupid austrians...

to be fair

If Merkel succeeds, Germany might declare WW3 to bring its message of "tolerance and love" to the rest of the world?

she can't

To presume that WW3 will be started in Germany is missing the point.

the german laws do not allow to start a war

true

Ali-Jamal Achmed the first Syrian Chancellor of germany will

A third Great War could come from any potential hotbed.

I maintain next world war is going to be fought with Memes

germany even had to bend its laws to help the nato

We've got a political line between the 'West' and Russia/China/Iran/Syria.

You've got instability in Asia with North Korea, and unclear relations between them and China.

You've got the middle east in General, very well funded if they chose to.

the middle east is gonna go Venezuela once their oil runs out

my guess is that it will come from a country you are not thinking of

the point of a gun is to force your way into land or resources

you needed weapons to kill those who stood in your way and force others to obey

his lord and Tim walks amongst us

we dont need to do that anymore

now we can use memes to control the minds of populations

exactly

if a certain political meme goes viral it will erode peoples opinions

so... 4chan wins WW3?

meme warfare is not a joke

4Chan will cause WW3 with Memes

I see your point. That's kind of the point, the culture war is the next great war.

4chan is the manhattan project of WW3

I mean lets face it

Pepe affecting the American election as it did was just insanity

That broke the "post-parody" in my eyes

See, the dangers I see are that people are trying to push ideologies that require 100% global participation for them to work.

clinton saying it was racist

trump and fam using it

insane

pepe is not even that funny...

It's the reaction that gives it power.

If the world saw a hitler pepe meme and didn't react at all to it... I mean, addages about quiet forests come to mind.

4chan does have its way to get reactions, for sure

WIth Tim's perspective there, I think 'Offense' itself is the new battleground, in a sense.

The retooling of words to give them a heightened power to offend, or for some words and concepts, to make them seem more appealing. The fight against Hate Speech, the push for compelled speech left and right...

Pepe is the ultimate Streisand Effect

Even today, even with all of the big Silicon Valley companies trying to control the narrative

Once it's on the internet, it's free to take on a life of it's own

well it just shows that even if you try to "control" the people
you can't stop them thinking, Meme-ing

and anything threatening that will just empower those using them even more

pepe is a good example why politicians should not talk about things that they have no idea about...

Can't stop them thinking, yet.

Keep in mind, the precedent set yesterday.

There still seems to be a notion that though policing is possible

Dankula was convicted for 'gross offense'

its why my other reddit handle is modernthoughtcontrol

Thought policing is seriously the risk of the next 10 years, even more so than before

well... he was convicted for using the internet ehy being grossly offensive... had he not used the internet he would have been fine...

you say that but 1) what else would he use and 2) doesn't matter, any charge can be trumped up

that law is beyond stupid...

if you are part of the wrong think, look out

What lotheron said. You also have to consider, this is a nation with a police force dedicated to television.

the could probably apply the law to mobile phone networks and things like that...

Their media is pretty close to government controlled, closer than ours is.

example, I dont care which side of gun control.. there is a distinct difference in coverage between fl and the one that was just stopped yesterday by a peace officer..

The Internet is the last bastion of freedom in that regard, and the Dankula case law seals that.

I hope the Dankula case will open up eyes

well... the one yesterday was stopped so... it didnt happen... or something...

Oh, it has.

People I didn't expect to side with him are siding with him.

Seeing Ricky Gervais come out in support, for instance, is heartening.

Rubin is a prophet

his video of the year he called it said said this would be the year of unlikely alliances

i thought he is a classical liberal? 😄

did you know he's gay too?

I agreEEE with that.

you agREEEEEEEE with that?

you watch too many podcasts with f'ing white males

I.... DisagrEEEEEE... with that....

Tim isn't a white male.

😄

I think Falko's referring to the podcaster that uses that as a sounder... 😛

haha never heard it

Guilty as charged, I do listen to Beauty and the Beta.

i'm thinking of calling in later but... stupid americans keep streaming in the middle of the night (european time 😄 )

And not particularly for Blonde's take, either. I'm fascinated with cases of agreeable leftists. Hence, why I'm here. I'm looking forward to deradicalization of the left and right, so that we can actually all just talk again and find the points both sides agREEE on.