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Kulinski is so invested in his views that he will say literally anything
"lololo it's obviously illegal!"
"don't listen to those _pesky lawyers_, or rely on precedent, listen to _meeeee_."
I think he got a point at this one tho
As a measure of support its cool
But private citizen obviously cant build that wall
I will not even go into details of that whole plan
Ino that founder doesn't expect to actually raise that bilion
Same problem tbh
Lets say he raises half billion
What happens then ?
How do you check the money are spent properly ?
As i said its great pr
But very impractical
gimme a second to explain
its long sentence and I have to word it correctly
You are 100% correct. If the plan calls for 4 billion dollars, and it raises 1 billion dollars. If he secures the funding through congress, the money would go to general funds.
But the problem is money isn't connected to people
If people raised 1B dollars congress would just offer 3B dollars
so whats the point beyond people just deciding to pay extra tax
This is about princple
Well i respect that they are going extra mile and donating
Instead of signing petitions
exactly, this is the democratic thing our government has done in a long time
although money is the voting power
Still lets be honest
its kinda of scary
They are not going to make it
๐
I wouldn't call it yet
remember trump had 1.5% chance of winning 2016
don't confuse me for support
I will be amazed if they do it
Thats for sure
me too!
There is also chance trump will push it through
I think, if Trump said he would let a meme be painted on it for 10000
each
I wouldent be surprised if he maanaged that
it would be done by the end of the week
Lel
I wish I was kidding
All he need to do is offer something in return for supporting the wall and this funding would be over
like that 1M dollar website
>Fox Spreads fake news
>CNN literally gave an award for a person who admitted to being fake news
"but its the right who does this"
not FOx, Vox ๐
Some people just have to take the words "conservative" and "liberal" and take it to mean things it doesn't.
correct
All the time
i loled so hard about that fake news CNN reporter of the year
this is an apple, indeed
I think CNN used a fake "model" apple in that video too
yea
not sure if it's fake news or not; confirms too many of my biases
https://popularmilitary.com/autistic-army-private-sentenced-for-killing-furry-community-parents-who-molested-their-child/#utm_source=The%20Salty%20Soldier
newsguard hasn't rated this site yet either
Welp
Last I checked, autism is an excluding condition. Even asbergers. Heck, even ADHD required two years off meds to be eligible.
Yeah, that guy wouldn't have gotten past MEPs
@Grenade123 I saw that article. Its a good read if you want to get angry. Read it anyway to see what the other side thinks.
James Comey claimed that due to the government shut down, FBI families wonโt have money for Christmas. This is a fake news lie. The December 9-22 pay period has already been funded. In addition to this any lost pay is paid back after the shutdown.
His tweet.
http://archive.today/nR4v0
Proof heโs lying.
https://www.scribd.com/document/396111452/Special-Pay-Leave-Instructions-for-a-Possible-December-22-Lapse#from_embed
OH LORD
those poor people who get an average of 6 figures a year
HOW WILL THEY FUCKING EAT>
they only earn on average 6 times what I made the entire year.
Comey is a self righteous virtues signaler
Cant believe he used to head the FBI
Good point @ryuplaneswalker . Itโs not like FBI agents are living paycheck to paycheck.
Comey is a political player.
Yup. Sadly a lot of people in intelligence seem to be too. Thatโs where the money is.
Like the ones in Sanfran and DC probably are
but..
DONT LIVE IN GOD DAMN SANFRAN
Lol
I love how comey knows not of the nature of how a shutdown works
Also, aren't their paychecks on the 1st and 15th? Or on the 10th and 25th? How are they surviving until christmas if its not all put on credit anyway? Fucking idiot jurnos.
It isn't an Idiot Jurno
it is an idiot guy who worked in the Federal Government through a few dozen of these shut downs.
Yes, I saw that Tim covered this.
Here is that article if you want to read and share.
โ Secret experiment in Alabama Senate race imitated Russian tacticsโ
By Scott Shane and Alan Blinder on The New York Times
The Chief Executive of New Knowledge, and the architect of Hamilton 68 was involved in a false flag operation where they had fake Russian Bot accounts follow Roy Moore, then used fake Alabamian Republican accounts to sow discord in that election. This article attempts to downplay the effect, but the truth is that the media ate this up. Producing dozens of articles attempting to connect Moore and Putin. The media has also used Hamilton 68 as a reliable source in numerous articles. Hamilton is claimed to track โ Russian linked accountsโ but refuses to reveal which ones. A dubious source based purely on that, but now that we know itโs creator is involved in Russian bot false flags, itโs clear it was completely a ruse , and the articles based on it are fake news.
http://archive.today/Amc3y
only people who fuck their sisters would believe this
"Alabama"
Ohhhh
Another article covered by Tim today. Read and share if you wish.
โHere are the most egregious fake news stories of 2018โ
On The Daily Caller
Fantastic list of 32 of the worst fake news stories of the year.
http://archive.today/SnmYz
https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-nazis-stole-christmas-promote-white-nationalism-755991 Ever read something that just made your eyes roll into another galaxy
Definitely have.
Thatโs a classic.
http://archive.today/wYtfq
People are saying calling it a white christmas is now rscist and there was an article but i cant find it
Must be a whole lot of people, then....
nah, it's the idiots in media as usual.
Its time for some SoC
Snow of Color
umm, like what?
how did it turn brown?
is this a political statement?
Like, did something brown touch it and then it turned brown?
Like smearing something brown against the white snow, in turn staining the snow with something brown?
and why then are we not talking about the implications of smearing something brown with white snow in racial terms?
is it that somehow we value value white snow above brown when we make a case for snow to default to a white hue?
and why would that be? - is it, that inherently, we default to white, regardless of circumstance?
because we _*prefer*_ white things over brown things?
dont tell me you are...
**colorist!**
Oh wait, I think regressives used that term before
damnit!
News, but I call it fake, i can easily rattle off many countries more dangerous than the USA.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna949676?fbclid=IwAR1EVmA60WREu0Q57kJ2eGWjQV8yi2337tXXGSeTVMu4LyBcIrLMlCITOhg&__twitter_impression=true
Yeah I saw something similar how the USA is one of the top "most dangerous countries for women"
yeah, total horse shit from radical lefties who didn't go out of town
oh, they are also in there:
https://canarymission.org/organization/Jewish%20Voice%20For%20Peace
Do y'all practice a standard to spell out in more descriptive, substantive detail regarding arguements and rebuttals ?
"More normie horse shit weak sauce"
Well. Versing yourself in formal logic is a good start.
Rattle off those those countries @4AM_critter ๐, and more interestingly rattle off the quantity and quality of chatavteritics that your considering, along with criteria you see first to determine that
Make smart arguments that are not so attitudinal along with baron if substance
?
@Stefan Payne often shares his conclusions with us, which is what I'm here for
But with high doses of emotional response and hardly ever smart ligix
Logic
Or details
If what they claim is true then it is horseshit. America affords its citizens and residents the means with which to cope with danger. HOWEVER. It is nkt the duty of government to ensure safety. As this is impossible. Its why police are dispatched to crimes when they happen, instead of sending everyone in a less than safe area, a chaperone. Women are highly enabled when it comes to seeking justice in America, and our society condemns and demonizes those that harm them. That is what they are getting at.
Meanwhile in Lebanon, women are killed for ideological reasons.
Therefore, it is blatantly ignorant at best, and malicious at worst, to claim that America is the most unsafe country in the world for women.
Yes, exactly.
You can't compare actual fear for life with some verbal insults because you fucked something up.
I will point out that this is spotty territory. They may very well take some statistics out of context to prop up their claims. Anyone that has lived in America and doesnt have a particular ideological mindset will recognize this for the propoganda that it is, but many, including foreigners, might not see how damn well women are treated in the U.S.
@EnderOctanus is your conclusion factoring in conditions other than death, off hand I would predict alcohol and substance use rates and a state of intoxication being present in many domestic violence cases
@Stefan Payne are there respectable academics having public discourse that are actually making that comparison said
No sane person would make that comparisation and/or claim that US are particularly bad for journalists or women. On the contrary...
@Stefan Payne ugh...alright so, what criteria would you rank as being critical to considering when determining how to qualify dangerous? Murder/death? Stalking? Battery? Arson attempts? ?
Of course bodily harm, not just insults.
And I'd also mention that somewhere in the rating as well, how I'd rate it.
Trump calling CNN Fake News is not an act of violence.
Obama jailing "Journalists" is.
AND it has to be related to the Job and be done by other persons.
Ok good I got ya
How do you rank trump communicating that "the press is the enemy of the people" ?
So if 100 Journalists happen to be killed by thunder and falling trees, its not something that indicates the danger for journalists at all.
Yes, they died but due to bad luck or stupidity, not because their occupation.
```How do you rank trump communicating that "the press is the enemy of the people" ?```
As a true statement.
The Press has to side with the population and not Corporations or Gouvernment. When in reality they side with either political partys, Corporations but are against the People.
best example is the Pro Migration propaganda in Germany.
of wich some was written by the Fake Newser Claas....
The Press has to be at odds with the Gouvernment, but all members of gouvernment equally, not prefer someone like Killary for example. And also not lie because of something.
And the most important thing:
*NEVER EVER EVER should the Press propagate War!*
They should always be against it, ALWAYS.
I agree with a lot of that
What is it that they said that made the us supposedly risky for journalists ?
Exactly that is the question, how they came up with that shit.
Personally I'd rate UK far before the US and even Germany far in front. US of A is one of the freest country for "Journalists" right now.
Though they get fired left and right for obvious reasons (lets say they didn't listen to Tim P.)
Probably its something out of the Obama area....
You remember Obama? The one that jailed an Indian immigrant for insulting Obama...
The earlier link mentions the 5 ppl that died at that local Gazette, after a.lawsuit of some type he was pissed over
Oh yeah, totally forgot that shit show
IIRC news coverage of that is not as bad as Charlottesville but stil quite bad.
I think it was the only like, notable event
There were also a couple other deaths due to accident. Maybe they counted that as well
Ppl who have a career in publishing and broadcast news surely are being subjected to heightened attention and scrutiny. I would say
In the UD
US
No
because they are allowed to publish total lied hit pieces and misrepresent people without consequences
So they are getting higher scrutiny, or they aren't?
no, they aren't, as they are faking news and storys.
See the shitshow of Charlottesville.
What about charlottesville?
The Media lied and invented shit...
There were a couple of hard right but most people were probably not. And they hid the violence from the Antifa/Left Wing Radicals. For example the Pictures that show the Left wing thugs hitting a car that is driving towards a crowd.
That caused. The driver to escape them in he direction if the crowd?
Just imagine how you would feel when you are already afraid for your life and someone hits your car with something
and that lead to the death of a person, of wich you've never seen the body.
because some people say she wasn't very skinny.
Alright, well, what about the trial and concication of the driver?
Conviction*
Erhem
There is one massive flaw in your argument.
Trump did not call The Media the enemy of the People
he called Fake News the enemy of the people.
Which is an entirely true statement, but M5M knows that they are completely full of shit so to distract from the actual problem they just REEEEE about Trump wanting to beat up Journos
Ah, well his nuance is unmatched and attributions of fault are in turn unasailable, then. The completely full of shit broadcast networks, including sports scores and current temperature outside, yet remain scarcely named by network let alone by individual, had the judgement that virtually every utterance be dismissed as discredited
Coming to them
Umm
I am not a trumper you know.
so acting like i am defending him because I like him is insane.
The Broadcast Networks are entirely fine with Journalists getting jailed/murdered/unpersoned so long as they are the right ones.
Do you think they would utter a peep if a Democrat President would say the exact same thing Trump says about them about Fox News?
Not a fucking chance.
Would they have given a lick of shit about Kashoji if they couldn't use it to beat up Trump? Not Remotely, it would have been a 5 minute fart in the wind.
Fox news was very not cool woth Jim acosta being dismissed from press hearings...I'm not sure how you're able to so certainly conclude their sentiment in alternative realities, either. Is it possible le your at all,even just slightly wrong about them in that way ?
My answer. First the list.
Turkey 68
China 47
Egypt 25
Saudi Arabia 16
Eritrea 16
Vietnam 11
Azerbaijan 10
Iran 8
Cameroon 7
Bahrain 6
Syria 6
Those are journalist in prison according to Committee to Protect Journalists (cpj.org)
The second part. I would prefer a weighted index consisting of multiple data points, like, death, hostages, and harassment instead of only one set of parameter data point. _Reporters without Borders_ (Reporters sans frontiers) used to do this. Where all countries are listed.
My problem with the article is it written to push a narrative and the headline states, _ us added to list of most dangerous countries_ the section in the Reporters without borders is the List of Deadliest countries.
The report the article source and link to is the annual report from Reporters without borders.
The report contains three main sections. Reporters death. Reporters jailed, and reporters held hostage.
As I understand the facts laid out. The six reports death registered in the US consist of an a cameraman and news anchor killed during a storm. A reporter killed over a long running personal fued. The rest is the Gazette incidents.
@caykoh my reply above
My personal feeling. The article is written with the purpose to push the narrative that the USA is a dangerous countries for journalist. And to convey the message that it is one of the worst countries in that regards.
My feelings donโt care about your facts.
Wait say that last part again? Your feelings dont care about my facts ? Are facts that elastic to be "mine"
Compounded and weighted data points
Not โyoursโ per se but all facts. The saying goes facts donโt care about feelings. It is also possible to deduce that feelings donโt care about fact. Since in current year we are more emotional, facts are worthless.
"More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracyโs essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index undebbcr Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters โenemies of the people,โ the term once used by Joseph Stalin."
The above statement is a quote.
Yes from reg, sorry
Rsf
Correction to some of my statements above. I am a bit rusty since I longer have any interactions with RSF. I was not aware that the annual report of freedom index have been made into a website. I used to read the paper report. The RSF report that the article quoted was not the annual report but a _special_ report, as I assumed.
I think the site and its summaries and thoroughness are quite worth the read.
it seems like a viable argument, though in terms of actual deaths of our reporters I would argue we're not that high
the issue is that the legacy media is on the decline, so they're declining in quality as well.
soon they'll be tabloids.
hm...
perhaps the inevitable collapse can be prepared for using something like an independant journalist's guild?
Tim has hillariously low overhead, but his work ethic is... well, insane.
that being said, it's very true that all it takes to be a journalist now is a camera
a phone
and accounts in social media of some kind.
if that works... why not make a kind of union? have the members follow a uniform standard of quality, but work for themselves.
โ Russian 2016 influence operation targeted Africa-Americans on social media โ
By Scott Shane and Sheera Frenkel
The NYT claims that โ The Russian influence campaign on social media in the 2016 election made an EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT to target African-Americans..โ
This is hyperbolic. It was reveled in that Senate hearing that only $4,600 was spent. This was in an election where 6.8 billion was spent. Watch the attached video for proof. Fake news.
http://archive.today/dNk2d
https://youtu.be/fELg3ws7aj4
please, that 4.7K isn't an actual serious attempt to influence america, it's effectively paying for a media circus that putin will watch as primetime entertainment
It's not fake news the Russians did do this.
But it had nothing to do with voter suppression it may have had that effect though.
@Exiled Sentinel The Russians used social media to create division in the US, they didn't care about the lines.
Itโs fake news that this was an โ extraordinary effortโ
No reason to believe it had any effect at all. Billions were being spent to get blacks to vote for and against Hillary. 4.7k spent to get them to not vote at all is like thinking you can flood the ocean by peeing into it.
... I like that analogy.
also, this was on my firefox
Vox is proposing 18-year terms, and I can't help but feel it's a democrat's response to fear of their own political agenda being reversed
Yeah, nothing cynical at all about Vox's about-face on judicial supremacy as soon as Hillary lost in 2016.
Want to see something dumb?
yep. Stupid at a glance
racism exists.
you know it. I know it.
It gets dumber if you read it
I openned it and gagged by the end of the first paragraph.
Have an excerpt of stupid then.
For instance, John Boyega plays Nat Turner in theย Star Warsย reboot,ย The Force Awakens. Heโs a slave (Stormtrooper) who leads a rebellion that eventually destroys the plantation (The Death Star) and defeats the slavemaster (Kylo Ren).
It just keeps getting worse and worse
Why in gods name did this get published?
TBF, I can actually see that being subconsciously written in.
the Disney SW films are... less than respectable
The Force Awakens was Microwaved A New Hope
It was
I could forgive that, but then The Last Jedi was so cocked up it was made on a chicken farm
Hence why Han regressed back to being a self serving asshole
exactly.
Rogue 1 wasn't fidelic to SW canon IIRC.
Rogue 1 was also just a good movie
it was definitely a good one, but it fell short in a number of ways.
I loved the general concept of a SW war movie
Sure but it was way above par
oh definitely.
Solo was... decent?
mixed feels on it.
โ Russia even used Pokรฉmon Go to hack the 2016 election. Hereโs how.
By Glenn Fleisman on Fortune
Fortune claims that Russia hacked the 2016 presidential using Pokรฉmon Go. How? Well, according to the discredited New Knowledge, they encouraged players to name their Pokรฉmon after victims of police brutality. How is that a hack, and who seriously believes this changed a single vote?
http://archive.today/XJ2p9
apparently Fortune believes it...
Pls pass the bleach
where's that simpsons meme...?
You mean space Simpsons?
I don't want to live on this planet any longer
no, that's futurama
found it
...
That is pretty great
why are my links not expanding?
Pass that bleach pls
@Vannevariable you need to reach level 10
You get this by simply typing in the text channels and stuff. you will get there in no time
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